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Ontario is stopping the Astra Zeneca vaccine altogether as a first dose. Apparently the blood clot cases were about 1 in 60,000 here and since we have loads of other vaccine options they decided to stop that one. If they continue on with it in Canada they expect there would be 20-25 more vaccine related deaths. Not sure what they are going to do with the thousands of people who already got it (They say the second dose risk is much, much lower - like one in a million. But then again they said that about the first dose too at the beginning). We have so much Pfizer vaccine coming in I am guessing they will give that as the second dose once they determine it is effective.
Daughter got her first dose today, and my sons are booked for Saturday, and next Tuesday. Finally going to have the whole family vaxx'd (first dose anyway).
Yes I saw that yesterday https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/very-little-excuse-to-continue-to-use-astrazeneca-in-canada-infectious-diseases-specialist Alberta may have pulled the plug by now too.
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@Gisel2015 if you get this in time, can you please untag the members in your last post? The posts were removed because they were against the terms of service, and there's no need to call that poster back here.
Good morning @kimny72 and sorry for being late. How do you "untag" members in a post? I never did that before, but I don't want to remove snowflake since she is a good contributor to the thread. Besides it seems that she is baaaaack!
I was just hoping you could remove the other poster's linked name from your post while it was still editable so he wouldn't get a notification and come back to post something else. No worries.4 -
SummerSkier wrote: »back to subject line. I know a lot of us have weathered thru the vaccines but sometimes I still feel like damocletes (sp) sword is hanging over all of us. I don't know whether it's the news media or what's going on in India. I know the US rates are holding steady or dwindling down for now but in my own state it seems like we are holding steading to new cases at the same rate as last summer. So are these all unvaccinated people ?? I do know quite a few who have decided (for their own reasons) not to get vaccinated, and I worry about them and the "opening" up of the nation.
There are quite a few states where the vaccinated rate is well below 50%, and if they are reducing restrictions at the same time, it could explain not seeing the cases drop.5 -
Ontario is stopping the Astra Zeneca vaccine altogether as a first dose. Apparently the blood clot cases were about 1 in 60,000 here and since we have loads of other vaccine options they decided to stop that one. If they continue on with it in Canada they expect there would be 20-25 more vaccine related deaths. Not sure what they are going to do with the thousands of people who already got it (They say the second dose risk is much, much lower - like one in a million. But then again they said that about the first dose too at the beginning). We have so much Pfizer vaccine coming in I am guessing they will give that as the second dose once they determine it is effective.
Daughter got her first dose today, and my sons are booked for Saturday, and next Tuesday. Finally going to have the whole family vaxx'd (first dose anyway).
Yes I saw that yesterday https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/very-little-excuse-to-continue-to-use-astrazeneca-in-canada-infectious-diseases-specialist Alberta may have pulled the plug by now too.
Did you get yours by now? You waited for Pfizer right? Almost everyone I know got the AstraZeneca first shot, I am 56 so my "circle" is right in that cohort that qualified for it early.
My kids are all booked for Pfizer (or Moderna I guess not really sure) because we live in hot spots, except one son who is now deemed "essential" priority 2 (can't work from home). Not sure what the roll out it like in other areas of the province - a bit slower I think - but apparently we have loads of vaccine now so everyone should be done by June I think.5 -
Well with a lot of getting on and off the fence about the AZ shot I'm booked into the waiting list and so is husband. Glad I don't need to think about it anymore really. Oz is now finally getting Moderna at the end of the year and some the following year but I think best not to wait to see how it goes with the roll out of it.
Covid can hit fast with just one person coming to town from interstate that doesn't know they have it. We had a guy from a foreign livestock ship flee docked at our port recently and ran around town for 24 hrs before giving himself up to police. What if he had the virus?! He didn't luckily.7 -
I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
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Finland reporting in:
As with @snowflake954 and Italy, there have been severe delivery issues with vaccines, but lately the shipments have been more reliable. My city is currently vaccinating the 45-49 age group, with estimates of opening next 5-year age groups every 1 to 3 weeks. At least nearby cities are in about the same schedule, give or take a week or two. The current estimate is that high schoolers (16+ years old), who are the last group, would start getting vaccines mid-to-late July. Pfizer is available to all age groups, AZ to 65+ only.
We're still on pretty strong lockdown, and gatherings of more than 6 people are banned. Restaurants must stop alcohol sales at 5PM, seated food sales at 6PM and close seating at 7PM. Kitchens can stay open for delivery and take-away according to individual opening hours. I think the restaurant rules are loosening by 1 hour this weekend, though. We were hit with a sudden wave of summer weather this week and today is a public holiday, so crowds have been gathering outdoors. Even when individual groups have only been 6 people or less, various groups have packed so closely together in parks that last night the police has had to exercise crowd control and empty several parks.
Public swimming pools are opening next week, but only to older age groups and those with a disability. It's annoyingly discriminatory, but I get the point: it's the only possible form of exercise for many elderly people, and they can swim safer when those who can exercise in other ways stay out of there. I don't even bother following gym restrictions anymore, but I'm under the impression they're opening everything except indoor group fitness classes.
Current stats: 43,4% of adults (16+) have received at least 1 vaccination dose. 2865 new infections within last 14 days, previous 14 days the number was 3441 so it's going down.8 -
Ontario is stopping the Astra Zeneca vaccine altogether as a first dose. Apparently the blood clot cases were about 1 in 60,000 here and since we have loads of other vaccine options they decided to stop that one. If they continue on with it in Canada they expect there would be 20-25 more vaccine related deaths. Not sure what they are going to do with the thousands of people who already got it (They say the second dose risk is much, much lower - like one in a million. But then again they said that about the first dose too at the beginning). We have so much Pfizer vaccine coming in I am guessing they will give that as the second dose once they determine it is effective.
Daughter got her first dose today, and my sons are booked for Saturday, and next Tuesday. Finally going to have the whole family vaxx'd (first dose anyway).
Yes I saw that yesterday https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/very-little-excuse-to-continue-to-use-astrazeneca-in-canada-infectious-diseases-specialist Alberta may have pulled the plug by now too.
Did you get yours by now? You waited for Pfizer right? Almost everyone I know got the AstraZeneca first shot, I am 56 so my "circle" is right in that cohort that qualified for it early.
My kids are all booked for Pfizer (or Moderna I guess not really sure) because we live in hot spots, except one son who is now deemed "essential" priority 2 (can't work from home). Not sure what the roll out it like in other areas of the province - a bit slower I think - but apparently we have loads of vaccine now so everyone should be done by June I think.
I have an appointment on Monday for mine and I'm 57. I was eligible to book as 55+ in April and that was the earliest I could get. Also phase 2 essential so it was a race to see whether my age or occupation got me in first. I'll be getting Pfizer.
We're not a hotspot so a portion of our supply got diverted for other areas and there have been several times when we've run out. I did hear that we're expecting "loads of vaccine" in upcoming weeks so appointment availability should open up again in June.5 -
Reading posts helps me grasp how the USA reality and the World reality are not one and the same. Here in the USA vaccine availability and brand choice is over the top yet it is being rejected by more than a few. Our local hospital had settled on Moderna which was my first choice by last week when I got the my first shot.
I had a very strong reaction 12 hours after that first shot but the Covid-19 symptoms were fading fast after 6-8 hours. 26 hours after the shot I was feeling better than months ago. I have had on going serious blood clots since the second week of January first in my left leg and now my right leg but just assumed the pain was muscle spasms like I have had for years but never had blood clots before.
After spending Easter weekend in ICU due to blockages that had moved to both lungs I was starting to wonder if my bad sinus infection the first week of January had not masked Covid-19. After the shot last week I realized what I had in January was more than a sinus. My long hauler like symptoms have resolved since the first shot of vaccine12 -
snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.9 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.5 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.3 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.
Yeah it must be dependent on area - right now it’s not that hard to get an appointment once you are eligible here in the GTA. My coworker is 43 and getting hers tomorrow, and my daughter is only 27 and got hers yesterday. I mean you had to go online and wait in queue for like 2 hours - but once you were in the appointments were then booked with a couple of weeks max.1 -
Australia update: everyone over 50 (was over 70) now eligible as well as all previous groups: people with chronic medical conditions and occupational risk
2 brands being used: AZ and Pfizer.
AZ on hold now for under 50's.
Problem: pfizer had frozen temperature storage requirements and as yet is not available outside capital city hospitals (not in South Australia anyway)
This obviously leaves many younger people who are eligible but do not have reasonable access to get a vaccine.5 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.
Yeah it must be dependent on area - right now it’s not that hard to get an appointment once you are eligible here in the GTA. My coworker is 43 and getting hers tomorrow, and my daughter is only 27 and got hers yesterday. I mean you had to go online and wait in queue for like 2 hours - but once you were in the appointments were then booked with a couple of weeks max.
Totally. I'm in the north.2 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.
When I checked the city health department’s site yesterday, it said you can book your appointment either online or by calling a service phone to leave your number and they will call you back. They made it very clear to only call once even if you don’t hear from them soon, as they will only call people back when they have appointments available, and that can take more than a week after a person has called them. 2nd shots are extended to 8ish weeks, I think.
A friend recently found out that whenever new age groups are opened, they open online booking at midnight. I don’t know if that’s the case elsewhere, but at least here it’s definitely worth it to stay awake until midnight the night before, so you can book it as soon as the clock hits midnight and the opening date rolls in. A friend group with eligible people talked about it this week, and the difference between booking at midnight and in the morning was that the midnight bookers got appointments booked about a week earlier.3 -
Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?5
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I have allergies in the spring and fall. I just haven’t had any allergy problems since COVID and masks. I’m still wearing mine, and definitely will until warmer weather and the wind dies down. Then I’ll reassess.4
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
Ecstatic and nervous. Yay!!!!!!5 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
I’m vaccinated but I’m not up for breathing indoor air with unvaccinated people. The CDC is using resuming normal life as a carrot to get the vaccine hesitant to take the vaccine, and I appreciate that, but statistically it’s not time yet. Depending on whose study you look at, the vaccine prevents about 19 out of 20 symptomatic cases (CDC cherrypicked a study that found 97%). I have played rpgs with dice for enough years to know that a 1 in 20 chance comes up on those dice all too often. And more than half of the people in my state are not vaccinated. Mississippi which borders us has only 25% of people vaccinated, and a map of Memphis cases right now is exactly a map showing where rich and poor people live - everything except the wealthy central corridor is brick red on the Covid per population map, hundred of cases, in fact just as many cases per day as last fall when everything was locked down. Everyone says “cases are dropping” but that’s only compared to the horror show that was January, it’s not compared to okay. Because there is still a boatload of Covid here.
In addition, with the U.K., which is more vaccinated than the US, suddenly seeing a massive spike in parts of the country where the Indian variant has arrived, I’m gonna hang out a bit until we know more about whether or not the vaccine is protective against the variants.
I’ve managed a whole year without going inside a building full of disease ridden people who don’t care whether anyone else lives or dies. It’s actually been kind of nice, since I used to get coughed and sneezed on every single time I went anywhere. My mom and I had a picnic at the park today. I enjoyed my food and I didn’t have to worry about ventilation and people who are afraid of science,14 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
I'm not fully vaxxed yet, so I'm going to keep wearing a mask until then. I don't wear a mask outdoors anyway. I'm not hanging out with people other than my family when I'm outside, so I haven't needed to.
TBH, I'm REALLY gonna miss having the personal space when they stop social distancing though (I prefer not having random strangers pushing up against me in line or brushing up against me in a row of seats, for example.)
I like people, but I love my personal space. Never loved crowded, stuffy spaces pre-covid, but covid made my aversion worse. I'm not gonna want to be back in crowded, poorly ventilated spaces for awhile...15 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Chances are good you will be protected after the first dose - 80% of people are.
The difference in immunity between the first and second doses has been repeatedly misrepresented by the press and others, including Dr. Fauci, who should know better. There’s no evidence for “partial immunity” after the first dose - that isn’t what any study has tested for. Studies group people into statistics, but individual people are not to be confused with statistics. About 80% of people have an immune response after the first dose. About one in 10, especially people in treatment for cancer, don’t until after the second dose. Some, depending on which vax about 1 in 10, will never develop immunity from the vaccine.
That’s the reasoning behind the U.K. delaying second doses and getting a first dose into as many people as possible, and it has worked. It’s simple math. You have 20 doses, and 20 people. If you give one dose to everybody, you end up with 16 immune. If you give two doses to half the people, you end up with 9 immune. In the short term, it’s better to have 16 than nine, and wait until you can give the second dose to all 20 - at which time you will pick up an additional two people, and have 18 immune.6 -
It seems we have an increasing number of the India virus in some areas of London and the North West - Burry I think it is. The response is to have localised intense testing, even teams going door to door to catch all cases. Also its possible the length of time between vaccine will be shortened in these areas from the up to 12 weeks but I've not heard what the suggested period will be. The rate of transmission with this viral form is still being discussed, its thought be be higher/faster than the original form or what was known as the Kent variant.
This is happening just as more steps are due to be taken to "open up the country" from Monday 17th. Local lock downs are not ruled out.
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
I don't support it inside. In my state we have too many Covid deniers who won't get vaccinated. I'll continue to eat outside only which I've already been doing all along since most of the restaurants here have heaters. As a point of reference I've been fully vaccinated (Pfizer) since the end of March.
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snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.
A friend recently found out that whenever new age groups are opened, they open online booking at midnight. I don’t know if that’s the case elsewhere, but at least here it’s definitely worth it to stay awake until midnight the night before, so you can book it as soon as the clock hits midnight and the opening date rolls in. A friend group with eligible people talked about it this week, and the difference between booking at midnight and in the morning was that the midnight bookers got appointments booked about a week earlier.
I tried that
The day my age group became eligible I went on the booking database at 6 AM (I'm up anyway) but my qualifying category wasn't in the list yet. I think the database opens at 8 AM so when I made another attempt at 8:30 when I got to work, it was there.
The database can only offer booking based on local availability however. We have had several periods of multiple weeks without any appointments at all because we've had no vaccine supply and they wouldn't open up for booking until the health unit knew when more shots would arrive.3 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
Keeping mine on a bit longer, thank you. I went to our local nursery to buy plants this week and despite there being a huge sign out front WEAR MASKS about 90% did not, including workers. JMO but I don't think we're out of the woods yet. 
Wanted to add most of the people I know, plus myself, are fully vaccinated. But I still wouldn't take the chance; besides the children and younger people are not. I'm not afraid for myself but for others.
People are still dying, even in our small state. 8 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.
When I checked the city health department’s site yesterday, it said you can book your appointment either online or by calling a service phone to leave your number and they will call you back. They made it very clear to only call once even if you don’t hear from them soon, as they will only call people back when they have appointments available, and that can take more than a week after a person has called them. 2nd shots are extended to 8ish weeks, I think.
A friend recently found out that whenever new age groups are opened, they open online booking at midnight. I don’t know if that’s the case elsewhere, but at least here it’s definitely worth it to stay awake until midnight the night before, so you can book it as soon as the clock hits midnight and the opening date rolls in. A friend group with eligible people talked about it this week, and the difference between booking at midnight and in the morning was that the midnight bookers got appointments booked about a week earlier.
Yeah we did that here for my daughter. She got a shot booked on the main provincial site but it was a bit of a drive and two weeks away. We have “pop up” clinics that are local and only book a week in advance - so I logged on right before midnight and right at 12 a whole day of open slots opened up 5 minutes from our house 7 days away so I booked that and cancelled the other one. She went on her lunch break and was there and back without having to miss any work.
That’s why I am so confused about people posting that they can only get Pfizer in limited places in Australia (and maybe other countries). Here they are giving it everywhere - pharmacies, pop up clinics, hockey rinks, community centres, workplaces. There must be a way to transport it because we are doing it here.5 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.
When I checked the city health department’s site yesterday, it said you can book your appointment either online or by calling a service phone to leave your number and they will call you back. They made it very clear to only call once even if you don’t hear from them soon, as they will only call people back when they have appointments available, and that can take more than a week after a person has called them. 2nd shots are extended to 8ish weeks, I think.
A friend recently found out that whenever new age groups are opened, they open online booking at midnight. I don’t know if that’s the case elsewhere, but at least here it’s definitely worth it to stay awake until midnight the night before, so you can book it as soon as the clock hits midnight and the opening date rolls in. A friend group with eligible people talked about it this week, and the difference between booking at midnight and in the morning was that the midnight bookers got appointments booked about a week earlier.
Yeah we did that here for my daughter. She got a shot booked on the main provincial site but it was a bit of a drive and two weeks away. We have “pop up” clinics that are local and only book a week in advance - so I logged on right before midnight and right at 12 a whole day of open slots opened up 5 minutes from our house 7 days away so I booked that and cancelled the other one. She went on her lunch break and was there and back without having to miss any work.
That’s why I am so confused about people posting that they can only get Pfizer in limited places in Australia (and maybe other countries). Here they are giving it everywhere - pharmacies, pop up clinics, hockey rinks, community centres, workplaces. There must be a way to transport it because we are doing it here.
The real question is why enough doses aren't arriving in Europe---they were ordered.4 -
rheddmobile wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Chances are good you will be protected after the first dose - 80% of people are.
The difference in immunity between the first and second doses has been repeatedly misrepresented by the press and others, including Dr. Fauci, who should know better. There’s no evidence for “partial immunity” after the first dose - that isn’t what any study has tested for. Studies group people into statistics, but individual people are not to be confused with statistics. About 80% of people have an immune response after the first dose. About one in 10, especially people in treatment for cancer, don’t until after the second dose. Some, depending on which vax about 1 in 10, will never develop immunity from the vaccine.
That’s the reasoning behind the U.K. delaying second doses and getting a first dose into as many people as possible, and it has worked. It’s simple math. You have 20 doses, and 20 people. If you give one dose to everybody, you end up with 16 immune. If you give two doses to half the people, you end up with 9 immune. In the short term, it’s better to have 16 than nine, and wait until you can give the second dose to all 20 - at which time you will pick up an additional two people, and have 18 immune.
this is VERY interesting! do you have any good links that explain this (going to look myself, but thought I'd ask in case you have anything)?
here in Ontario they just cancelled all public events through September (we are currently not allowed to leave our houses - a stay at home order that they extend every two weeks and are expected to continue to do so through the summer) with the message that the majority only have one shot so we are not protected until the fall. if this is true, it could change everything - yet hasn't once been mentioned my the news or "health experts" which is interesting.5 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
I think this guidance was premature. There's still a lot of virus out there. We do mitigation testing at my workplace, and still have people testing positive, including fully vaccinated people. Those fully vaccinated did not get very sick, had mild symptoms, but some passed it on to unvaccinated family members, who did get quite ill.
It's going to make it really hard for individual businesses to enforce mask rules. People can just say they are vaccinated, even if they are not.
I think that in my area, where there is really high mask compliance, we'll see a very slow change, not people just suddenly flinging off their masks.
I know I'm still going to wear mine in grocery stores, at work, and any indoor public places. Outside for a walk, no.9
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