Coronavirus prep
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Breaking news: AZ vaccine in Australia will only be for over 60's
Pfizer for all under 60's
Changed from 50 as of today.
I presume those under 60 who have already had one dose of AZ still get their 2nd dose though
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Re the European Football as mentioned above, supporters who travel have been required to show clear covid test results before travel/attending. Travel is frowned on from the UK, the traffic light system has only one or two countries designated as green on it which means one does not have to isolate afterwards.
I can't say I like the idea of people mixing in such large number, nor can I comment on the amount of interactions between the persons not having seen the footage. I have to accept that these supporters are screened and will probably be tested later to see what the transfer rate is/was. There have been other large gatherings which have been monitored in this way to enable a greater understanding of this "covid thing" so an idea can be gained for opening up. Needless to say, one chooses to attend, one is free to do as one wishes within the guidance.3 -
Morgan Stanley CEO to NYC workers: Be back in the office by September or else (https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/investing/morgan-stanley-ceo-return-to-office/index.html)
"If you can go to a restaurant in New York City, you can come into the office. And we want you in the office," Gorman said.
It seems that not everybody is giving the workers a choice unless there are special circumstances for doing that. I am not going to comment on this subject because I am retired so my thoughts really don't count in the matter. I am just posting this information based on the comments written by many members.
Changing the subject: My husband and I had to run some errands today, the first day after California re-open and I noticed a discrepancy between what is allowed and what people are really doing.
Doctor's office: everybody (staff and patients) wearing masks. No exception, as listed in the health orders.
Restaurant: nobody (staff or patrons) wearing masks, but indoor tables were not too busy and people were choosing tables that were further apart. It was too hot to even think about eating outside.
Sketchers Store: All employees were masked, and the same with some patrons, while others were very happy to show their mask-less faces.
Home Depot: all the employees were wearing mask, but some patrons were not, while most of them were masked. What a mix!
I don't know if the people wearing masks were being careful or were not vaccinated, but everybody was very civilized. No funny looks or comments.
I did wear my mask in the stores, but my husband was not. He was happy to be able to wear his hearing aid without the risk of losing it again. It seems that glasses, hearing aids, and the strap of the mask don’t work very well together.
When I was sewing masks, one style was different from anything sold. One friend saw them and asked for some specifically because of the issue with his earring aids and them getting pulled out.
@kshama2001 DD and SIL used to live in NYC and SIL worked for a very large company. Two years ago, they moved to the Boston area and SIL transferred to the Boston office. Same company, same job, same responsibilities but pay was cut. For that well known company, Boston pay is lower than NYC due to the expense of living in NYC. Though from pre-COVID that parallels the current position of the Morgan Stanley CEO.3 -
Re the European Football as mentioned above, supporters who travel have been required to show clear covid test results before travel/attending. Travel is frowned on from the UK, the traffic light system has only one or two countries designated as green on it which means one does not have to isolate afterwards.
I can't say I like the idea of people mixing in such large number, nor can I comment on the amount of interactions between the persons not having seen the footage. I have to accept that these supporters are screened and will probably be tested later to see what the transfer rate is/was. There have been other large gatherings which have been monitored in this way to enable a greater understanding of this "covid thing" so an idea can be gained for opening up. Needless to say, one chooses to attend, one is free to do as one wishes within the guidance.
I think traveling to see the games live is one thing and probably well coordinated for the most part. It's the sports bars and people gathering at homes, restaurants, bars and in the streets that I'm more concerned about in terms of spreading covid.
Finland won their first game (not deserved after the situation with Christian Eriksen, in my opinion), this is what happened: https://www.iltalehti.fi/jalkapallon-em-2021/a/dcf66f3a-1d36-49e1-9bdc-b3d40cf8ac54 the article is in Finnish, but there is video and pictures to show the non-distanced non-masked crowds spontaneously gathering. That's way more worrisome to me than a couple hundred tested, masked and tracked people traveling to see a game.6 -
Morgan Stanley CEO to NYC workers: Be back in the office by September or else (https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/investing/morgan-stanley-ceo-return-to-office/index.html)
"If you can go to a restaurant in New York City, you can come into the office. And we want you in the office," Gorman said.
It seems that not everybody is giving the workers a choice unless there are special circumstances for doing that. I am not going to comment on this subject because I am retired so my thoughts really don't count in the matter. I am just posting this information based on the comments written by many members.
Changing the subject: My husband and I had to run some errands today, the first day after California re-open and I noticed a discrepancy between what is allowed and what people are really doing.
Doctor's office: everybody (staff and patients) wearing masks. No exception, as listed in the health orders.
Restaurant: nobody (staff or patrons) wearing masks, but indoor tables were not too busy and people were choosing tables that were further apart. It was too hot to even think about eating outside.
Sketchers Store: All employees were masked, and the same with some patrons, while others were very happy to show their mask-less faces.
Home Depot: all the employees were wearing mask, but some patrons were not, while most of them were masked. What a mix!
I don't know if the people wearing masks were being careful or were not vaccinated, but everybody was very civilized. No funny looks or comments.
I did wear my mask in the stores, but my husband was not. He was happy to be able to wear his hearing aid without the risk of losing it again. It seems that glasses, hearing aids, and the strap of the mask don’t work very well together.
When I was sewing masks, one style was different from anything sold. One friend saw them and asked for some specifically because of the issue with his earring aids and them getting pulled out.
@kshama2001 DD and SIL used to live in NYC and SIL worked for a very large company. Two years ago, they moved to the Boston area and SIL transferred to the Boston office. Same company, same job, same responsibilities but pay was cut. For that well known company, Boston pay is lower than NYC due to the expense of living in NYC. Though from pre-COVID that parallels the current position of the Morgan Stanley CEO.
Yes, I did not mean to compare Boston salaries directly to NYC, but Boston to South Florida, and then agreeing that getting a NYC salary means suffering the inconveniences and expenses of living in or commuting to NYC
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paperpudding wrote: »Breaking news: AZ vaccine in Australia will only be for over 60's
Pfizer for all under 60's
Changed from 50 as of today.
I presume those under 60 who have already had one dose of AZ still get their 2nd dose though
We (Canada) are giving those who received AZ the option of taking Pfizer or Moderna for their second dose. Everyone I know who got first dose AZ chose to get an mRNA second shot. I guess vaccine science in general supports mixing doses, and the preliminary data on this specific combination is good.
(But we aren't using AZ for first doses for anyone anymore - there was a small cohort of about I believe a million people who received it.)
Also now that we are getting a boatload of Moderna vaccine I suspect that they will start mixing that with those who got Pfizer for the first dose. Because our strategy was to give everyone we could a first dose, we now are getting a bunch of Moderna in time for second shots - but hardly anyone got it for their first.5 -
Wow, masking has dropped way off here.
The governor gave his permission that if you're fully vaccinated, you can go without a mask. I went to the grocery store this a.m. and besides myself, there was 1 other person I saw who was wearing a mask.
I'm not sure I agree or am comfortable about it but what are ya gonna do? I'll just continue doing what I'm doing and see what this new guideline does to our numbers.8 -
Wow, masking has dropped way off here. The governor gave his permission that if you're fully vaccinated, you can go without a mask. I went to the grocery store this a.m. and besides myself, there was 1 other person I saw who was wearing a mask.
I'm not sure I agree or am comfortable about it but what are ya gonna do? I'll just continue doing what I'm doing and see what this new guideline does to our numbers.
I am now fully vaccinated (13 days post second dose) and I am going to ditch the mask as soon as it is allowable wherever I am not required to wear it. Any store I have been in recently still has a sign up telling us to wear one, so of course I do.10 -
Morgan Stanley CEO to NYC workers: Be back in the office by September or else (https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/investing/morgan-stanley-ceo-return-to-office/index.html)
"If you can go to a restaurant in New York City, you can come into the office. And we want you in the office," Gorman said.
It seems that not everybody is giving the workers a choice unless there are special circumstances for doing that. I am not going to comment on this subject because I am retired so my thoughts really don't count in the matter. I am just posting this information based on the comments written by many members.
Changing the subject: My husband and I had to run some errands today, the first day after California re-open and I noticed a discrepancy between what is allowed and what people are really doing.
Doctor's office: everybody (staff and patients) wearing masks. No exception, as listed in the health orders.
Restaurant: nobody (staff or patrons) wearing masks, but indoor tables were not too busy and people were choosing tables that were further apart. It was too hot to even think about eating outside.
Sketchers Store: All employees were masked, and the same with some patrons, while others were very happy to show their mask-less faces.
Home Depot: all the employees were wearing mask, but some patrons were not, while most of them were masked. What a mix!
I don't know if the people wearing masks were being careful or were not vaccinated, but everybody was very civilized. No funny looks or comments.
I did wear my mask in the stores, but my husband was not. He was happy to be able to wear his hearing aid without the risk of losing it again. It seems that glasses, hearing aids, and the strap of the mask don’t work very well together.
When I was sewing masks, one style was different from anything sold. One friend saw them and asked for some specifically because of the issue with his earring aids and them getting pulled out.
@kshama2001 DD and SIL used to live in NYC and SIL worked for a very large company. Two years ago, they moved to the Boston area and SIL transferred to the Boston office. Same company, same job, same responsibilities but pay was cut. For that well known company, Boston pay is lower than NYC due to the expense of living in NYC. Though from pre-COVID that parallels the current position of the Morgan Stanley CEO.
Yeah, that's normal. For example, large law firms normally pay the same starting salary as their perceived competitors within the city, not over the various cities the firms are operating in, even though they usually have a bunch of different offices.3 -
There are also regional pay differentials in federal service. There's a basic pay rate per position, and it is increased depending on where your job is located. It can actually be a huge difference in pay from place to place. And that's part of the compensation for working in particular areas. If it's more expensive to live there or commute there, then you are compensated for that.2
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To the topic of working "for" and company in one state, but "working from home" from another. I wonder what complicating factors there may be with the IRS.
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To the topic of working "for" and company in one state, but "working from home" from another. I wonder what complicating factors there may be with the IRS.
It doesn't matter to the IRS for your federal income tax as long as you're not working outside the country.
But for your state taxes, you end up having to file both in the state that you live in and the state where your company is located. You won't be double-taxed on the income, but you still have to file in both.
For a while, my husband, who is a freelance contractor, did jobs for different companies around the country. We filed state income taxes in 10 states that year, including our home state. Thank God for our accountant!11 -
One of the few benefits to living in South Dakota is no state income tax.
I took my cat to the vet today. While chatting, she asked if I had got 'the shot'. It was a bit odd, but then I realized she probably doesn't see many people wearing a mask.0 -
paperpudding wrote: »Breaking news: AZ vaccine in Australia will only be for over 60's
Pfizer for all under 60's
Changed from 50 as of today.
I presume those under 60 who have already had one dose of AZ still get their 2nd dose though
We (Canada) are giving those who received AZ the option of taking Pfizer or Moderna for their second dose. Everyone I know who got first dose AZ chose to get an mRNA second shot. I guess vaccine science in general supports mixing doses, and the preliminary data on this specific combination is good.
(But we aren't using AZ for first doses for anyone anymore - there was a small cohort of about I believe a million people who received it.)
Also now that we are getting a boatload of Moderna vaccine I suspect that they will start mixing that with those who got Pfizer for the first dose. Because our strategy was to give everyone we could a first dose, we now are getting a bunch of Moderna in time for second shots - but hardly anyone got it for their first.
Everyone I know who went to the public health unit vaccine clinic got Pfizer except me, I got Moderna. The SO got his two days after me (same week) and got Pfizer.
When Ford announced the accelerated second shots in Ontario, in our district we were looking at shortages of Moderna so I thought they might mix mine. So it's interesting to hear now that there's a big influx of Moderna.1 -
Wow, masking has dropped way off here. The governor gave his permission that if you're fully vaccinated, you can go without a mask. I went to the grocery store this a.m. and besides myself, there was 1 other person I saw who was wearing a mask.
I'm not sure I agree or am comfortable about it but what are ya gonna do? I'll just continue doing what I'm doing and see what this new guideline does to our numbers.
I am now fully vaccinated (13 days post second dose) and I am going to ditch the mask as soon as it is allowable wherever I am not required to wear it. Any store I have been in recently still has a sign up telling us to wear one, so of course I do.
Why are you ditching the mask so soon? I wouldn't be if I lived there. You are still at risk of catching it and it's just a mask. Keep as safe as you can if in crowded places with others close to you. Just my thoughts on it unless it makes you feel unwell when using it then why not stay as say as possible for a little longer? Not enough are vaccinated yet.8 -
paperpudding wrote: »Breaking news: AZ vaccine in Australia will only be for over 60's
Pfizer for all under 60's
Changed from 50 as of today.
I presume those under 60 who have already had one dose of AZ still get their 2nd dose though
Yes I wonder what is going to happen now in Australia. Husband and I got our first AZ a few weeks ago. Not dead yet from a clot so guess going ok and always wanted Pfizzer shot. I still feel better we had something rather than nothing at all. Our government is crap with this roll out. Ashamed actually.4 -
Wow, masking has dropped way off here. The governor gave his permission that if you're fully vaccinated, you can go without a mask. I went to the grocery store this a.m. and besides myself, there was 1 other person I saw who was wearing a mask.
I'm not sure I agree or am comfortable about it but what are ya gonna do? I'll just continue doing what I'm doing and see what this new guideline does to our numbers.
I am now fully vaccinated (13 days post second dose) and I am going to ditch the mask as soon as it is allowable wherever I am not required to wear it. Any store I have been in recently still has a sign up telling us to wear one, so of course I do.
Why are you ditching the mask so soon? I wouldn't be if I lived there. You are still at risk of catching it and it's just a mask. Keep as safe as you can if in crowded places with others close to you. Just my thoughts on it unless it makes you feel unwell when using it then why not stay as say as possible for a little longer? Not enough are vaccinated yet.
It's not 100%, but it's 95% effective which is an outstanding efficacy rate. The vast majority of new COVID cases and hospitalizations (around 97% if I remember) are unvaccinated individuals. Our CDC has established that if you are fully vaccinated you do not need to wear a mask indoors or outdoors unless required by a particular establishment. I wear a mask as required on public transportation, hospitals and Dr. office, airline flight, etc. I no longer wear a mask when in the grocery store or other retail unless they specifically request it in which case I am more than happy to oblige. It is also summer in the US and starting to be very hot most places...it's been over 100F everyday where I'm at for the last two weeks and a mask is extremely uncomfortable in those conditions. IMO, the risk is low enough if vaccinated to ditch the mask. Nothing is ever 100%, nor will it ever be. COVID won't ever just disappear and it's unlikely that there will ever be "enough" vaccinated in the US for actual herd immunity. At some point, life needs to carry on.15 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Wow, masking has dropped way off here. The governor gave his permission that if you're fully vaccinated, you can go without a mask. I went to the grocery store this a.m. and besides myself, there was 1 other person I saw who was wearing a mask.
I'm not sure I agree or am comfortable about it but what are ya gonna do? I'll just continue doing what I'm doing and see what this new guideline does to our numbers.
I am now fully vaccinated (13 days post second dose) and I am going to ditch the mask as soon as it is allowable wherever I am not required to wear it. Any store I have been in recently still has a sign up telling us to wear one, so of course I do.
Why are you ditching the mask so soon? I wouldn't be if I lived there. You are still at risk of catching it and it's just a mask. Keep as safe as you can if in crowded places with others close to you. Just my thoughts on it unless it makes you feel unwell when using it then why not stay as say as possible for a little longer? Not enough are vaccinated yet.
It's not 100%, but it's 95% effective which is an outstanding efficacy rate. The vast majority of new COVID cases and hospitalizations (around 97% if I remember) are unvaccinated individuals. Our CDC has established that if you are fully vaccinated you do not need to wear a mask indoors or outdoors unless required by a particular establishment. I wear a mask as required on public transportation, hospitals and Dr. office, airline flight, etc. I no longer wear a mask when in the grocery store or other retail unless they specifically request it in which case I am more than happy to oblige. It is also summer in the US and starting to be very hot most places...it's been over 100F everyday where I'm at for the last two weeks and a mask is extremely uncomfortable in those conditions. IMO, the risk is low enough if vaccinated to ditch the mask. Nothing is ever 100%, nor will it ever be. COVID won't ever just disappear and it's unlikely that there will ever be "enough" vaccinated in the US for actual herd immunity. At some point, life needs to carry on.
I have very similar thoughts as well. I have been working at an Urgent Care that has been COVID testing since tests were available. Though proper PPE protocols were preformed, it did not stop some of my coworkers from contracting COVID. About 1/4 of my coworkers contracted COVID, but of course, this could have come from anywhere outside of work as well. Most of us are fully vaxed as of February. I still have to wear a mask at work, and if I'm required to do so in other establishments, I will. However, I will not be wearing a mask if I am not required to.
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SuzySunshine99 wrote: »To the topic of working "for" and company in one state, but "working from home" from another. I wonder what complicating factors there may be with the IRS.
It doesn't matter to the IRS for your federal income tax as long as you're not working outside the country.
But for your state taxes, you end up having to file both in the state that you live in and the state where your company is located. You won't be double-taxed on the income, but you still have to file in both.
For a while, my husband, who is a freelance contractor, did jobs for different companies around the country. We filed state income taxes in 10 states that year, including our home state. Thank God for our accountant!
Ouch!
I live in MA and got paid by a company in FL, but because there is no state income tax in FL, I only had to file state taxes for MA.1 -
paperpudding wrote: »Breaking news: AZ vaccine in Australia will only be for over 60's
Pfizer for all under 60's
Changed from 50 as of today.
I presume those under 60 who have already had one dose of AZ still get their 2nd dose though
Yes I wonder what is going to happen now in Australia. Husband and I got our first AZ a few weeks ago. Not dead yet from a clot so guess going ok and always wanted Pfizzer shot. I still feel better we had something rather than nothing at all. Our government is crap with this roll out. Ashamed actually.
I have read up further on this since my last post.
People under 60 who have started on AZ and had no problem, still to have second AZ shot (so that will be me )
Australia is not encouraging mixing of brands and supplies of Pfizer are still limited - and going to be more limited now
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kshama2001 wrote: »SuzySunshine99 wrote: »To the topic of working "for" and company in one state, but "working from home" from another. I wonder what complicating factors there may be with the IRS.
It doesn't matter to the IRS for your federal income tax as long as you're not working outside the country.
But for your state taxes, you end up having to file both in the state that you live in and the state where your company is located. You won't be double-taxed on the income, but you still have to file in both.
For a while, my husband, who is a freelance contractor, did jobs for different companies around the country. We filed state income taxes in 10 states that year, including our home state. Thank God for our accountant!
Ouch!
I live in MA and got paid by a company in FL, but because there is no state income tax in FL, I only had to file state taxes for MA.
My husband works for a company based in Kansas City (home office), and we live in NC. A large percentage of their employees work all over the country. We only pay NC state tax. I think it depends on how things are set up.1 -
Wow, masking has dropped way off here. The governor gave his permission that if you're fully vaccinated, you can go without a mask. I went to the grocery store this a.m. and besides myself, there was 1 other person I saw who was wearing a mask.
I'm not sure I agree or am comfortable about it but what are ya gonna do? I'll just continue doing what I'm doing and see what this new guideline does to our numbers.
I am now fully vaccinated (13 days post second dose) and I am going to ditch the mask as soon as it is allowable wherever I am not required to wear it. Any store I have been in recently still has a sign up telling us to wear one, so of course I do.
Why are you ditching the mask so soon? I wouldn't be if I lived there. You are still at risk of catching it and it's just a mask. Keep as safe as you can if in crowded places with others close to you. Just my thoughts on it unless it makes you feel unwell when using it then why not stay as say as possible for a little longer? Not enough are vaccinated yet.
We have a very high vaccination rate here (75% first dose so far) and I am confident in the science that the vaccines will protect us. Even with only first doses our cases are plummeting here. My family has all been vaccinated (most first and getting second soon) as are all my work colleagues.
I trusted the science as it evolved with masking, vaccines, distancing etc - so when the science also tells me that vaccines are effective and masks are no longer necessary I trust that as well.9 -
paperpudding wrote: »Breaking news: AZ vaccine in Australia will only be for over 60's
Pfizer for all under 60's
Changed from 50 as of today.
I presume those under 60 who have already had one dose of AZ still get their 2nd dose though
We (Canada) are giving those who received AZ the option of taking Pfizer or Moderna for their second dose. Everyone I know who got first dose AZ chose to get an mRNA second shot. I guess vaccine science in general supports mixing doses, and the preliminary data on this specific combination is good.
(But we aren't using AZ for first doses for anyone anymore - there was a small cohort of about I believe a million people who received it.)
Also now that we are getting a boatload of Moderna vaccine I suspect that they will start mixing that with those who got Pfizer for the first dose. Because our strategy was to give everyone we could a first dose, we now are getting a bunch of Moderna in time for second shots - but hardly anyone got it for their first.
Everyone I know who went to the public health unit vaccine clinic got Pfizer except me, I got Moderna. The SO got his two days after me (same week) and got Pfizer.
When Ford announced the accelerated second shots in Ontario, in our district we were looking at shortages of Moderna so I thought they might mix mine. So it's interesting to hear now that there's a big influx of Moderna.
When my oldest son got his first (in Toronto) he got Pfizer but they said it just depends what they have that day, some days that same clinic were giving Moderna. We are supposed to be getting I think 7 million Moderna in June so you should be good for your second dose. But yeah since most people got Pfizer for their first dose if they don't mix it it seems like they will have too much Moderna? Idk - I guess that is what happens when they stopped holding the second doses and just used whatever they had for the first.
I got both Pfizer but if they had given me Moderna for my second I honestly wouldn't have cared - I'm sure it would be fine. My neighbour asked my husband which vaccine he got and he didn't even know, he just took what they gave him, lol. Some people are picky though - my son insisted he would only take the Pfizer vaccine - idk why I think they are both basically the same.
Did you have side effects from your first dose? I have the impression that Moderna has more side effects than Pfizer.0 -
Wow, masking has dropped way off here. The governor gave his permission that if you're fully vaccinated, you can go without a mask. I went to the grocery store this a.m. and besides myself, there was 1 other person I saw who was wearing a mask.
I'm not sure I agree or am comfortable about it but what are ya gonna do? I'll just continue doing what I'm doing and see what this new guideline does to our numbers.
I am now fully vaccinated (13 days post second dose) and I am going to ditch the mask as soon as it is allowable wherever I am not required to wear it. Any store I have been in recently still has a sign up telling us to wear one, so of course I do.
Why are you ditching the mask so soon? I wouldn't be if I lived there. You are still at risk of catching it and it's just a mask. Keep as safe as you can if in crowded places with others close to you. Just my thoughts on it unless it makes you feel unwell when using it then why not stay as say as possible for a little longer? Not enough are vaccinated yet.
We have a very high vaccination rate here (75% first dose so far) and I am confident in the science that the vaccines will protect us. Even with only first doses our cases are plummeting here. My family has all been vaccinated (most first and getting second soon) as are all my work colleagues.
I trusted the science as it evolved with masking, vaccines, distancing etc - so when the science also tells me that vaccines are effective and masks are no longer necessary I trust that as well.
The problem is that the delta variant is very infectious and one dose of any vaccine only offers about 30% protection, according to my readings. The only way to have more protection is to have both vaccines.
Delta Variant and COVID-19 Vaccines: What to Know https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210610/delta-variant-and-covid-19-vaccines-what-to-know
A study conducted in the United Kingdom that was cited by the Biden administration finds that one dose of the Pfizer vaccine provided about 33% protection against the delta variant, which is officially designated B.1.617.2.
Two doses of the Pfizer vaccine, meanwhile, provided about 88% protection. The study is a pre-print and has not yet been peer reviewed. (Click here to learn more about coronavirus variants.)5 -
Wow, masking has dropped way off here. The governor gave his permission that if you're fully vaccinated, you can go without a mask. I went to the grocery store this a.m. and besides myself, there was 1 other person I saw who was wearing a mask.
I'm not sure I agree or am comfortable about it but what are ya gonna do? I'll just continue doing what I'm doing and see what this new guideline does to our numbers.
I am now fully vaccinated (13 days post second dose) and I am going to ditch the mask as soon as it is allowable wherever I am not required to wear it. Any store I have been in recently still has a sign up telling us to wear one, so of course I do.
Why are you ditching the mask so soon? I wouldn't be if I lived there. You are still at risk of catching it and it's just a mask. Keep as safe as you can if in crowded places with others close to you. Just my thoughts on it unless it makes you feel unwell when using it then why not stay as say as possible for a little longer? Not enough are vaccinated yet.
We have a very high vaccination rate here (75% first dose so far) and I am confident in the science that the vaccines will protect us. Even with only first doses our cases are plummeting here. My family has all been vaccinated (most first and getting second soon) as are all my work colleagues.
I trusted the science as it evolved with masking, vaccines, distancing etc - so when the science also tells me that vaccines are effective and masks are no longer necessary I trust that as well.
The problem is that the delta variant is very infectious and one dose of any vaccine only offers about 30% protection, according to my readings. The only way to have more protection is to have both vaccines.
Delta Variant and COVID-19 Vaccines: What to Know https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210610/delta-variant-and-covid-19-vaccines-what-to-know
A study conducted in the United Kingdom that was cited by the Biden administration finds that one dose of the Pfizer vaccine provided about 33% protection against the delta variant, which is officially designated B.1.617.2.
Two doses of the Pfizer vaccine, meanwhile, provided about 88% protection. The study is a pre-print and has not yet been peer reviewed. (Click here to learn more about coronavirus variants.)
The info I read is that one does of Pfizer is 94% effective in preventing hospitalization with the Delta variant, and 96% after two doses. I have had two doses - I am as protected as I am going to be at this point. If I do happen to get exposed I am VERY unlikely to need hospitalization or medical care.
I think that the end point of hospitalization rates and deaths is a more important gauge for effectiveness at this point.
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kshama2001 wrote: »Morgan Stanley CEO to NYC workers: Be back in the office by September or else (https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/investing/morgan-stanley-ceo-return-to-office/index.html)
"If you can go to a restaurant in New York City, you can come into the office. And we want you in the office," Gorman said.
It seems that not everybody is giving the workers a choice unless there are special circumstances for doing that. I am not going to comment on this subject because I am retired so my thoughts really don't count in the matter. I am just posting this information based on the comments written by many members.
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This has merit:
"If you want to get paid New York rates, you work in New York," Gorman said. "None of this 'I'm in Colorado...and getting paid like I'm sitting in New York City.' Sorry. That doesn't work."
After I moved back to Massachusetts, I could have made more money if I was willing to commute into Boston, but I wasn't, and I was fine with working remotely and getting paid South Florida rates.
When I commuted in FL, between getting ready for work and time spent in the car, I lost three hours per day, not to mention the expense of driving and maintaining a suitable wardrobe.
When working remotely, I stay in my pjs til lunch and then change into my exercise clothes.
I place a lot of value in that improvement in my quality of life.
If an employer can say they're going to pay you less based on where you live, they can just as easily say they're going to pay you less because of how many dependents you have or because you just inherited your parent's house or you just hit the lottery. Or because you're a woman so they assume you have a man who's actually paying the bills.
It's different if they're saying an employee who comes to the office is more valuable to them, whether it's because some aspects of the job can't be done at all or can't be done efficiently remotely, or because they believe employees who come to the office are more inculcated into the corporate culture, and they value that, or because they have found that remote workers are less available and responsive to sudden issues that need to be dealt with quickly.
My employer decided a few years ago to close our local office and have us work from home, saving them on office rent and getting us to provide them with free electricity and Internet access, free phone service, and, on days when I have to go into the city for work purposes, making me pay the "rent" on a table in a coffee shop before and/or after my work appointments, because they won't reimburse for "local meals" and even when traveling they won't reimburse for a cup of coffee ordered outside of a meal, and there's no time to do a home-to-downtown commute twice during working hours.
I would be pretty angry if they now decided they should be able to pay me less because of all the money I'm saving by not having to commute.4 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »To the topic of working "for" and company in one state, but "working from home" from another. I wonder what complicating factors there may be with the IRS.
It doesn't matter to the IRS for your federal income tax as long as you're not working outside the country.
But for your state taxes, you end up having to file both in the state that you live in and the state where your company is located. You won't be double-taxed on the income, but you still have to file in both.
For a while, my husband, who is a freelance contractor, did jobs for different companies around the country. We filed state income taxes in 10 states that year, including our home state. Thank God for our accountant!
Some states have agreements to address this issue. I have lived most of my life in a different state from the places I worked (large metro area whose suburbs are in multiple states) and have never paid income taxes or filed in a state because I worked there but didn't live there.2 -
Wow, masking has dropped way off here. The governor gave his permission that if you're fully vaccinated, you can go without a mask. I went to the grocery store this a.m. and besides myself, there was 1 other person I saw who was wearing a mask.
I'm not sure I agree or am comfortable about it but what are ya gonna do? I'll just continue doing what I'm doing and see what this new guideline does to our numbers.
I am now fully vaccinated (13 days post second dose) and I am going to ditch the mask as soon as it is allowable wherever I am not required to wear it. Any store I have been in recently still has a sign up telling us to wear one, so of course I do.
Why are you ditching the mask so soon? I wouldn't be if I lived there. You are still at risk of catching it and it's just a mask. Keep as safe as you can if in crowded places with others close to you. Just my thoughts on it unless it makes you feel unwell when using it then why not stay as say as possible for a little longer? Not enough are vaccinated yet.
We have a very high vaccination rate here (75% first dose so far) and I am confident in the science that the vaccines will protect us. Even with only first doses our cases are plummeting here. My family has all been vaccinated (most first and getting second soon) as are all my work colleagues.
I trusted the science as it evolved with masking, vaccines, distancing etc - so when the science also tells me that vaccines are effective and masks are no longer necessary I trust that as well.
The problem is that the delta variant is very infectious and one dose of any vaccine only offers about 30% protection, according to my readings. The only way to have more protection is to have both vaccines.
Delta Variant and COVID-19 Vaccines: What to Know https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210610/delta-variant-and-covid-19-vaccines-what-to-know
A study conducted in the United Kingdom that was cited by the Biden administration finds that one dose of the Pfizer vaccine provided about 33% protection against the delta variant, which is officially designated B.1.617.2.
Two doses of the Pfizer vaccine, meanwhile, provided about 88% protection. The study is a pre-print and has not yet been peer reviewed. (Click here to learn more about coronavirus variants.)
The info I read is that one does of Pfizer is 94% effective in preventing hospitalization with the Delta variant, and 96% after two doses. I have had two doses - I am as protected as I am going to be at this point. If I do happen to get exposed I am VERY unlikely to need hospitalization or medical care.
I think that the end point of hospitalization rates and deaths is a more important gauge for effectiveness at this point.
Last month there was a local epidemic of the Delta variant inside a hospital that had more than 80 infections, and families of hospital workers were also infected. 7 elderly people died (and considering the vaccination rates in the elderly, it’s likely that most of them had at least one, probably two shots). 80% of those infected in this local epidemic had received at least one shot. 11% of the hospital staff in the department where the epidemic started were infected, even though most hospital staff has received two vaccinations, and half of them had symptoms, some serious.
Granted, the infected patients were already *in* the hospital for some other reason so they weren’t in full health when infected, but those numbers are still concerning, especially the ones about hospital staff who has already received 2 vaccinations.
Since this was a hospital breakout, the problem wasn’t just that people got the virus and some mild symptoms. The problem was a large number of hospital staff being quarantined, so there wasn’t enough people to take care of other patients. The hospital area had to temporarily shut down all functions except emergency room and emergency surgeries, ICU and childbirth units to make sure they can still perform those critical duties, and the area went into full lockdown, schools went remote, graduation ceremonies were cancelled etc.7 -
Wow, masking has dropped way off here. The governor gave his permission that if you're fully vaccinated, you can go without a mask. I went to the grocery store this a.m. and besides myself, there was 1 other person I saw who was wearing a mask.
I'm not sure I agree or am comfortable about it but what are ya gonna do? I'll just continue doing what I'm doing and see what this new guideline does to our numbers.
I am now fully vaccinated (13 days post second dose) and I am going to ditch the mask as soon as it is allowable wherever I am not required to wear it. Any store I have been in recently still has a sign up telling us to wear one, so of course I do.
Why are you ditching the mask so soon? I wouldn't be if I lived there. You are still at risk of catching it and it's just a mask. Keep as safe as you can if in crowded places with others close to you. Just my thoughts on it unless it makes you feel unwell when using it then why not stay as say as possible for a little longer? Not enough are vaccinated yet.
We have a very high vaccination rate here (75% first dose so far) and I am confident in the science that the vaccines will protect us. Even with only first doses our cases are plummeting here. My family has all been vaccinated (most first and getting second soon) as are all my work colleagues.
I trusted the science as it evolved with masking, vaccines, distancing etc - so when the science also tells me that vaccines are effective and masks are no longer necessary I trust that as well.
That is fine but I would'nt trust it too much but you do as you wish of course. If I lived there I wouldn't trust it all and keep cautious for a while longer. Take care. Do what you feel you need to do. I can't see being cautious a bad thing.6 -
paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »Breaking news: AZ vaccine in Australia will only be for over 60's
Pfizer for all under 60's
Changed from 50 as of today.
I presume those under 60 who have already had one dose of AZ still get their 2nd dose though
Yes I wonder what is going to happen now in Australia. Husband and I got our first AZ a few weeks ago. Not dead yet from a clot so guess going ok and always wanted Pfizzer shot. I still feel better we had something rather than nothing at all. Our government is crap with this roll out. Ashamed actually.
I have read up further on this since my last post.
People under 60 who have started on AZ and had no problem, still to have second AZ shot (so that will be me )
Australia is not encouraging mixing of brands and supplies of Pfizer are still limited - and going to be more limited now
That is us also. I'm happy to have anything even with us not having any community Covid in our city so far. I love to travel so the quicker we sort this the better. At least I can fly to New Zealand and just went interstate but was half an hour from a Covid person! OMG.1
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