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HEY EVERYONE! I AM DOING CRAFTS TODAY. KEEPS ME BUSY AND I AM NOT EATING! HOW IS YOUR DAY GOING?

ArmindaJoanna wrote: »

HEY EVERYONE! I AM DOING CRAFTS TODAY. KEEPS ME BUSY AND I AM NOT EATING! HOW IS YOUR DAY GOING?

kizanne2 wrote: »

Machka9 wrote: »

kizanne2 wrote: »

Ok Been so busy at work. Reading mostly but wanted to add the information a few have asked about.

Gallbladder cleanse and more

So I'm going to break this into 3 sections probably. The cleanse itself. Other related medical information. My personal experience.

The gallbladder cleanse. There is a great book called The amazing liver and gallbladder cleanse it's available via kindle and I think cost about $20. It's an interesting read. Well worth $20.

I have read about lots of different version of this and I adapted my own. I'll list opt. optional or required rq. parts to the cleanse and what they do.

The night before your cleanse clean out your bowels. I do 2 12 oz bottles of magnesium sulfate same as you would before a colonoscopy. RQ. the alternative is a colonic.

2 days of apple juice. 2 cups every 2 hours for a total of 14 cups. No food *see below for opt. into*
This gives you a bunch of natural malic acid and doesn't trigger your gallbladder because it has no fat. The malic acid helps soften gallstones. believe or not you won't be hungry.

at 6 pm the of the second night I dissolve 4 tablespoons of epsom salts into 24 oz. of warm water. Then drink 6 oz. of this reserving the rest for later. RQ. Epsom salts are known to dilate your bile ducts so this is very important. I drink a little apple juice after this as it is very bitter. OPT.

8pm drink 6 oz. of the epsom salt water. RQ. Rinse with apple juice. OPT.

10 pm I take 4 oz of olive oil and mix it with some fresh squeezed citrus juice either lemon or grapefruit depending on what I have on hand. RQ. This causes strong contractions in your gallbladder.

I lay down very still with my head higher than my stomach. Then try to sleep.

6 am 6 oz epsom salt. RQ
8 am 6 oz epsom salt. RQ this is generally when I start seeing stones.

My last cleanse I didn't want all the apple juice so I did a fast and changed out the apple juice is malic acid. I'm not sure it worked as well and I was hungry.

I also have started taking Ox bile tablets, Gold coin grass, and apple cider vinger.


That's it that's the cleanse. I always feel better after but sometimes not for long periods. The general consensus from forums I've read is it works but you have to keep at it 10 - 12 times. SPaced at least 3 weeks apart.

My personal experience. There is lots of information on the net about every kind of item. I was having mostly left side pain, naseau, heavy fatigue. They sent me for an ultrasound and found stones but did not say how big, how many or anything like that. They sent me to a surgeon. I didn't like reading that 30% of people who have the surgery still have problems that their issue isn't necessarily resolved. I asked to go to a gastroentenologiest who told me 40% of people have gallstones and never it know it because they don't always cause problems. I also have fatty liver.

Since my pain was left side and I wasn't in right side pain. I decided to wait and research more. I did a cleanse. I felt better. I waited 2 months started to feel some pain or so and did another one. this goes on for a while and then my GP wants to run a hidascan since I didn't have the surgery. They say my gallbladder functions at 11%.

I was first diagnosed April of 2020. I still occasionally get pain but the majority of my pain is gone. I am feeling better and I think my root problem is insulin resistance. This creates high cholesterol which in turn plays a role into forming gallstones.

When reading and listening to doctors videos about insulin resistance it make so much sense why despite medical advances we are still a sick people. You can track the uptick in lots of diseases with the food that became popular partly due to industrialization and partly due to the USDA recommendations.

Further insulin resistance is best measured by HOMA-IR but most general practitioning doctors only look at fasting blood sugar. By the time your fasting blood sugar is high enough to trigger their next step you most likely have type 2 diabetes. People really should keep track before that.

Lastly if you have never had weight problems you maybe able to eat whatever USDA recommends and be healthy but those of us who have become overweight and then tried dieting to fix it often times this makes you insulin resistant so USDA can certainly work for people whose body hasn't been damaged. But a look at the data shows that the more people by survey (over time) who says they follow the USDA recommendations which are carb heavy the more incidence of diabetes, heart disease and such we have.

Medical disscussion
Most doctors won't recommend a clease because you may get a gallstone stuck in your duct.
1. The epsom salt dialates your ducts helping to prevent this.
2. The same doctors say they don't work but if they don't work, I mean if gallstones don't come out then how would you get a stone stuck?
3. some people say well you can't get stuff to go up into your gallbladder so the apple juice and stuff isn't going there. Your body recycles 90% of your bile which goes back into your gallbladder and the medicine which does exist (prescription ursodiol which dissolve them slowly over time) So if you can't get stuff in there to help then why is there a prescription medicine that does just that?
4. many say oh you aren't seeing stones. You are just seeing a soap like mixture make by the olive oil and citrus. Ok sound actually plausible. But I've done 6 of these and my husband being a good trooper has done them with me as support and a why not. For the first 5 I spit out lots of stones and he didn't spit out any. So the one who has stones on her ultrasound spits out soap but not the other guy who is eating/drinking the same exact thing.
BTW on the 6th cleanse he got a few stones out.

Could I end up at the hospital in pain and needing my gallbladder out due to the cleanse. yes but they already wanted to yank it out.

I really feel they are helping and there are lots of other people who swear they have helped them as well. It isn't a quick fix like surgery.

Surgery makes some people better and great and wonderful. For too large a portion for my liking. It makes it hard to eat protein and fat. It give them diarrhea because the bile now just seeps out constantly into the intestines. For others the pain doesn't go away because it wasn't cause by the gallbladder. Even with your gallbladder out you can still get stones forming in your liver. Look up biliary stones.

I'm not a medical doctor and I don't know where my journey will end but the chinese have been doing some similar things like ox bile, gold coin grass and cleanses for thousands of years as a gallbladder management system. I love modern medicine but I don't know that gallbladder removal is a great idea.

On the other side by not removing it I do increase the odds of getting pancreatitis.

Insulin Resistance
If you are still reading and interested watch this https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dr+ekberg+insulin+resistance&view=detail&mid=06F2C51425564208D09D06F2C51425564208D09D&FORM=VIRE

there is so much more but it's a start.

4. many say oh you aren't seeing stones. You are just seeing a soap like mixture make by the olive oil and citrus. Ok sound actually plausible. But I've done 6 of these and my husband being a good trooper has done them with me as support and a why not. For the first 5 I spit out lots of stones and he didn't spit out any. So the one who has stones on her ultrasound spits out soap but not the other guy who is eating/drinking the same exact thing.

Gallstones don't go out the mouth (spitting). If they go out, they go the other direction.

Um yeah I was using a figure of speech. You pass them in your bowel which will be plentiful and liquid since you are taking epsom salts and been on a liquid diet.

And yes it is 1600 calories a day. But it isn't a diet for losing weight it's part of the cleanse for the acid. That's why my last one I choose to do a fast with malic acid. I don't want all the sugar.

But I wasn't trying to convince anyone to do anything. I just thought I'd let you know what it is since 2 people asked.

I also wasn't convinced that my problems were gallstones becuase my pain was left side. I did do lots of research after they found them. Yours sounds like a possible stone in the duct. Did the new CT scan find anything?