WOMEN AGES 50+ FOR AUGUST 2021

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  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,611 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    Busy sorting and shredding notes, but now ...

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    Machka in Oz

    I am thinking I'll choose a bright but cloudy day and photograph the calendar pictures I like to use as wallpaper on my desktop.

    As for the cards, I think I'd like to look into a photo album situation but I may photograph them as well.


    A few years ago, I attached magnets to some and put them on a magnetic whiteboard like this ...
    That was nice for a while but I'd like something a bit more portable.

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    M in Oz
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,611 Member
    dlfk202000 wrote: »
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    Went out and picked more raspberries- may freeze these- too many to eat fresh and not enough to make more than about a jar or two of jam.

    :):)

    We've got about half a dozen raspberry plants now. Last year's crop didn't work out - warm weather hit at a time when we were away and they didn't get watered enough. But I'm hopeful for this year. :)


    M in Oz
  • dlfk202000
    dlfk202000 Posts: 3,192 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    dlfk202000 wrote: »
    bru1cy56y68h.png
    Went out and picked more raspberries- may freeze these- too many to eat fresh and not enough to make more than about a jar or two of jam.

    :):)

    We've got about half a dozen raspberry plants now. Last year's crop didn't work out - warm weather hit at a time when we were away and they didn't get watered enough. But I'm hopeful for this year. :)


    M in Oz

    I started out with two plants, then bought two more- the first two plants have SPREAD everywhere. Now I have an area that is over 12-14ft long, maybe longer. I have dug up some of them because they were in the middle of my lawn.
  • pipcd34
    pipcd34 Posts: 17,269 Member
    Yyyyyy
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,611 Member
    dlfk202000 wrote: »
    Machka9 wrote: »
    dlfk202000 wrote: »
    bru1cy56y68h.png
    Went out and picked more raspberries- may freeze these- too many to eat fresh and not enough to make more than about a jar or two of jam.

    :):)

    We've got about half a dozen raspberry plants now. Last year's crop didn't work out - warm weather hit at a time when we were away and they didn't get watered enough. But I'm hopeful for this year. :)


    M in Oz

    I started out with two plants, then bought two more- the first two plants have SPREAD everywhere. Now I have an area that is over 12-14ft long, maybe longer. I have dug up some of them because they were in the middle of my lawn.

    Ours are in pots so they're contained. If we owned the place we live, we'd likely put them in the ground.

    However, we went to a raspberry orchard and found they used pots too, so we figured if they could, we could. :)

    Unfortunately, it does mean they need a bit more water, I think.

    M in Oz
  • bananasandoranges
    bananasandoranges Posts: 2,410 Member
    Old cards and calendar pictures. I saw somewhere the suggestion to put them as lining on inside closet doors (if they are swinging, doors not sliding doors), in walls of visible shelves and closets. I did that once with some art-y printed cards that were given to me by artists I was not close to. I didn't really have a welcome space for them on my walls but I didn't feel ok about tossing them, they were nice in themselves just not to my taste for home decor and not with a personal emotional value, so I kept them on "inside walls" that I could see when opening up pantry closet. I found that a nice solution for a few years till I was read to part ways with them at some point. Sort of like closet wallpaper for visible bits of closet walls.
  • cityjaneLondon
    cityjaneLondon Posts: 12,712 Member
    Kizanne2 - I'm delighted to say that I had my gallbladder out around 2002 and haven't had any problems since. Of course, everyone's experience is different. I was in hospital for two nights, no pain , and back working after a week. It was done telescopically, so no scars now.
    There is no way I could have continued with the agonising attacks of pain I was having.
    I have never had blood sugar problems and chloresterol was normal then. Now it has crept up very slightly, but not enough for medication. My digestion is excellent and I eat everything I want to. No problems with fat or protein.
    My only problem, which I think is genetic, is that my liver takes too much iron out of my blood. I am borderline with this. Doctor is watching it. Liver function fine.
    Of course, in the UK, medical treatment is free, so my hospital stay, in a single room, (!!!) (don't know how that happened) was free. They did it fairly quickly after my last attack on the train,which caused all sorts of emergency kerfuffle. :p:p
    I've also had a total hysterectomy 1998, (with bi lateral thing) so there's not much left of me to go wrong. Oh, and breast cancer 2007.

    I've certainly had my money's worth from the NHS. Plus the babies.

    Love Heather UK xxxxxxxx <3
  • bananasandoranges
    bananasandoranges Posts: 2,410 Member
    rjv230 wrote: »
    I’m 70, a widow after 50 years together, and only 4’9”. My nutritionist says pretty Impossible for me to lose the weight I gained in last 3 years. I want to lose at least 10 lbs. my size and age, she says, means I can only eat 1000 calories a day! And that is with exercise and possibly ONLY losing 1/2 lb a week! I am trying to keep the calorie count. Don’t think this is the way. Any stories, suggestions, success will help. I feel defeated. Can I lose and still eat and have energy?

    RJV I think having a baseline of 1000 calories a day is reasonable for someone of very small stature and past 50.
    I was on threads for "petites" (5'3" and under I think) and some definitely had to go lower than usual to lose or maintain, and seemed to do that very healthily. one reason there was a "petites" thread is because many of us had to go under the usual recommended amount of calories to lose or maintain. When I 1st started WW online there was no way I could lose with the recently retweaked plan they had. They gave us 36 "points" per day (minimum 29 points per day) and "36" weekly points. I could not lose with the 36 points and had to have an average of 27 points and no weeklies, to lose just under a pound a week. I'm 5'2" and I was about 47 years old. I actually put 1000 as the baseline on mine but count all activity towards calories out including cleaning. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one here, that one or two other people said they have 1000 or 1100 and don't count calories out from activities.

    I find a weekly approach works much better. That was one of the great parts of WW online in my opinion- leaving place for a splurge or two per week, whether it be a meal out or a lush dessert or whatever.

    Some here do intermittent fasting.
    Others do keto.
    I have tried those both a bit but don't feel comfortable with them.
    There's likely to be a bit of trial and error.
    I've been challenged since I can't run anymore. It was a great calorie burner and metabolism booster.
    Welcome!
  • grandmallie
    grandmallie Posts: 10,097 Member
    Well its 3 am and have been awake for an hr.. oh well the hurricane has shifted more to the East we will still get alot of rain but more of the eastern part of the state and Rhode Island and the Cape will get the brunt of it it is a catogory 1 but we will have rain for a couple days
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,611 Member
    edited August 2021
    kizanne2 wrote: »
    Ok Been so busy at work. Reading mostly but wanted to add the information a few have asked about.

    Gallbladder cleanse and more
    So I'm going to break this into 3 sections probably. The cleanse itself. Other related medical information. My personal experience.

    The gallbladder cleanse. There is a great book called The amazing liver and gallbladder cleanse it's available via kindle and I think cost about $20. It's an interesting read. Well worth $20.

    I have read about lots of different version of this and I adapted my own. I'll list opt. optional or required rq. parts to the cleanse and what they do.

    The night before your cleanse clean out your bowels. I do 2 12 oz bottles of magnesium sulfate same as you would before a colonoscopy. RQ. the alternative is a colonic.

    2 days of apple juice. 2 cups every 2 hours for a total of 14 cups. No food *see below for opt. into*
    This gives you a bunch of natural malic acid and doesn't trigger your gallbladder because it has no fat. The malic acid helps soften gallstones. believe or not you won't be hungry.

    at 6 pm the of the second night I dissolve 4 tablespoons of epsom salts into 24 oz. of warm water. Then drink 6 oz. of this reserving the rest for later. RQ. Epsom salts are known to dilate your bile ducts so this is very important. I drink a little apple juice after this as it is very bitter. OPT.

    8pm drink 6 oz. of the epsom salt water. RQ. Rinse with apple juice. OPT.

    10 pm I take 4 oz of olive oil and mix it with some fresh squeezed citrus juice either lemon or grapefruit depending on what I have on hand. RQ. This causes strong contractions in your gallbladder.

    I lay down very still with my head higher than my stomach. Then try to sleep.

    6 am 6 oz epsom salt. RQ
    8 am 6 oz epsom salt. RQ this is generally when I start seeing stones.

    My last cleanse I didn't want all the apple juice so I did a fast and changed out the apple juice is malic acid. I'm not sure it worked as well and I was hungry.

    I also have started taking Ox bile tablets, Gold coin grass, and apple cider vinger.


    That's it that's the cleanse. I always feel better after but sometimes not for long periods. The general consensus from forums I've read is it works but you have to keep at it 10 - 12 times. SPaced at least 3 weeks apart.

    My personal experience. There is lots of information on the net about every kind of item. I was having mostly left side pain, naseau, heavy fatigue. They sent me for an ultrasound and found stones but did not say how big, how many or anything like that. They sent me to a surgeon. I didn't like reading that 30% of people who have the surgery still have problems that their issue isn't necessarily resolved. I asked to go to a gastroentenologiest who told me 40% of people have gallstones and never it know it because they don't always cause problems. I also have fatty liver.

    Since my pain was left side and I wasn't in right side pain. I decided to wait and research more. I did a cleanse. I felt better. I waited 2 months started to feel some pain or so and did another one. this goes on for a while and then my GP wants to run a hidascan since I didn't have the surgery. They say my gallbladder functions at 11%.

    I was first diagnosed April of 2020. I still occasionally get pain but the majority of my pain is gone. I am feeling better and I think my root problem is insulin resistance. This creates high cholesterol which in turn plays a role into forming gallstones.

    When reading and listening to doctors videos about insulin resistance it make so much sense why despite medical advances we are still a sick people. You can track the uptick in lots of diseases with the food that became popular partly due to industrialization and partly due to the USDA recommendations.

    Further insulin resistance is best measured by HOMA-IR but most general practitioning doctors only look at fasting blood sugar. By the time your fasting blood sugar is high enough to trigger their next step you most likely have type 2 diabetes. People really should keep track before that.

    Lastly if you have never had weight problems you maybe able to eat whatever USDA recommends and be healthy but those of us who have become overweight and then tried dieting to fix it often times this makes you insulin resistant so USDA can certainly work for people whose body hasn't been damaged. But a look at the data shows that the more people by survey (over time) who says they follow the USDA recommendations which are carb heavy the more incidence of diabetes, heart disease and such we have.

    Medical disscussion
    Most doctors won't recommend a clease because you may get a gallstone stuck in your duct.
    1. The epsom salt dialates your ducts helping to prevent this.
    2. The same doctors say they don't work but if they don't work, I mean if gallstones don't come out then how would you get a stone stuck?
    3. some people say well you can't get stuff to go up into your gallbladder so the apple juice and stuff isn't going there. Your body recycles 90% of your bile which goes back into your gallbladder and the medicine which does exist (prescription ursodiol which dissolve them slowly over time) So if you can't get stuff in there to help then why is there a prescription medicine that does just that?
    4. many say oh you aren't seeing stones. You are just seeing a soap like mixture make by the olive oil and citrus. Ok sound actually plausible. But I've done 6 of these and my husband being a good trooper has done them with me as support and a why not. For the first 5 I spit out lots of stones and he didn't spit out any. So the one who has stones on her ultrasound spits out soap but not the other guy who is eating/drinking the same exact thing.
    BTW on the 6th cleanse he got a few stones out.

    Could I end up at the hospital in pain and needing my gallbladder out due to the cleanse. yes but they already wanted to yank it out.

    I really feel they are helping and there are lots of other people who swear they have helped them as well. It isn't a quick fix like surgery.

    Surgery makes some people better and great and wonderful. For too large a portion for my liking. It makes it hard to eat protein and fat. It give them diarrhea because the bile now just seeps out constantly into the intestines. For others the pain doesn't go away because it wasn't cause by the gallbladder. Even with your gallbladder out you can still get stones forming in your liver. Look up biliary stones.

    I'm not a medical doctor and I don't know where my journey will end but the chinese have been doing some similar things like ox bile, gold coin grass and cleanses for thousands of years as a gallbladder management system. I love modern medicine but I don't know that gallbladder removal is a great idea.

    On the other side by not removing it I do increase the odds of getting pancreatitis.

    Insulin Resistance
    If you are still reading and interested watch this https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dr+ekberg+insulin+resistance&view=detail&mid=06F2C51425564208D09D06F2C51425564208D09D&FORM=VIRE

    there is so much more but it's a start.

    2 days of apple juice. 2 cups every 2 hours for a total of 14 cups.


    That's 1600 calories of sugar! I'd be so dizzy, I'd have trouble standing up!

    https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/fruits-and-fruit-juices/2075/2
  • auntiebk
    auntiebk Posts: 2,614 Member
    "Get to do"s and "chose well"s
    Chose well: take BP, finished minutes, dog group, veg prep, found out how to see which apps are using how much mobile data, mfp was a big hog!
    Bonus: more of Mossy Forest hike.
    Get to do: take BP, dogs to powerline, install new mic, test zoom, livestream church, zoom council, do something with goat’s milk, flagger course progress, USE those torture bands/do that BB&B video, call S, fire district: research NFPA, grant NIMS requirements, ongoing: input 2019 call sheets into NFIRS, work with chief on equipment letter, substance abuse policy, NFIRS mutual aid and other missing details, likewise Lee skills/tasks, ask for boots donator contact info, appreciation letter or certificate to boots donator, index mutual aid files; watch STAS Day 20, declutter sideboard, learn new dances (Tequila Little Time, Homesick, Nothing but You, A Little Less Broken, Blame it on my beating heart,; Do Your Thing, practice dances: One Margarita, I’m so used to being broke, All Night, Pure Movies to Wine, Beer, Whiskey, I ain’t never gonna love nobody but Cornell Crawford (Alley cat),); finish mulching flowerbed, invest another 10 minutes in prepping living trust, Freddie’s for complete series TDAP <$48, get Shingrix vaccine, find and configure a screen time popup, figure out where to plant the last of the naked lady bulbs, and soon as it warms up above 50 and dries out below 60% humidity I’ll tape and spray paint those rusted areas of Aunt Elsie’s stove, ask Te about GB’s FD firetruck tax levy – contacts, media, advocate???, Reward: inventory seeds, plan this fall’s garden, wishlist replenishments (Milena F1 orange peppers and beit alpha cukes next year).
    August
    21: Donate unused items, clothes or food to help a local charity: maybe today ;)
    22: Give people the gift of your full attention: that will have to be Joe. Keeping distance from everyone else.

    Funny but an hour’s worth of work on the fire district board meeting minutes left me feeling way more accomplished than all the housework hours yesterday. ;)

    T’ai Chi is cancelled for two weeks due leader having been exposed to C-19. Just so doggoned discouraging. In my head I know this will all burn out in another year, but in my heart I’m whining. Will try to view it as an opportunity to practice on the deck, or in the park before “Walk with Ease” or maybe even get out those torture bands.

    Julie “. . . cleaning is always an option, to avoid other stuff.” True, but there are few things (minutes, taxes) that I detest more than cleaning… ;) Glad you have the option of Hospital #2. :love: your positive take on the “lumineuse” comment. :relaxed:
    Karen how lucky you are, and I was. If I ever need Mohs again I’ll have to go to Eugene a 5+ hr drive. :confounded:
    Allie brava for your inner girl scout!
    Heather “finding glitter and sequins” made me smile. What treasures!
    Pip $7K for pavers for a small patio? Wow OW WOW! I can not wrap my brain around the increase costs of building materials. Now I understand a little how Mama and Papa felt about prices, viewing through depression era lenses.
    Tracey like your idea about stacking calendar pictures in a frame for easy changing and storage.
    Welcome @rjv230 ! I’m only 1.5 inches taller than you and I’d be happy to consistently lose ½ lb per week. It took 3 years to gain the weight, why not give yourself 20 weeks to take (and keep) it off? Would you let us know what you'd like to be called and your general locale?
    Lisa :laugh: I LOVE your advice to rjv230! Thank you for posting, hope you are feeling better.
    Debbie hope you can find ways to discourage the raccoons soon! :love: your leggings

    Thanks to YouTube managed to make step goal and keep CI barely less than CO.

    Lighter, lovelies!
    f8qt1s098sxm.gifBarbara, the Southern Oregon Coastie AHMOD
    August: leaner/stronger/kinder than July.
    daily: sit with Joe: 19, weigh/wii: 21/0/0; steps>6704=6875 vits=20, log=21, CI<CO=20, CI<250<CO=15, Tumble=11, Shadow=20, mfp=22, outside=24, up hill=23, clean 10=21.
    wkly: Sun: Mon: Tue:LD YH=1, Wed:TC=2, PW=3. Thurs: Fri:TC=2. Sat:PW=3. rX x4=3.
    wt=1/31:141.3 2/28:142.4 3/31:145.3 4/30:141.5 5/31:142.4 6/30:141.5 7/31:140.2!!! 8/1:141.3 8/8:140.4 8/15:141.5 :rage:
    mnthly: board mtg=1, grant=, plan=, waist=42.0
    bonus: AF:12 play= sew=
    2021: choose to be leaner/stronger/kinder NOW

  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,611 Member
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    Started the ride late in the afternoon, but in daylight ... then the sun set and the full moon rose. :)


    Machka in Oz
  • Katla49
    Katla49 Posts: 10,385 Member
    edited August 2021
    Rjv230– Welcome! I am sorry for your loss. DH and I have also been married more than 50 years. It is possible to lose weight at 70. Measure portions, move more and keep track of what you are eating. I like to take yoga classes three times a week. Our class includes men and women. Most of us taking yoga in my class are past 70. :star:

    Rebecca– Raspberries are my favorite! :bigsmile:

    Pip– I love the 2019 MS ride shirts. Thank you for your participation in the MS Rides over the years. My husband has MS and you are helping him and many others. :heart:

    Machka– Raspberries are my favorites! YUM!!! :smiley:

    Kizanna2– Like Heather, I had my gallbladder out years ago. I had only one gallstone and it was the size of a Robin’s egg. I was happy to say goodbye to it. :flowerforyou:

    Allie– Good to know you ae unlikely to have serious problems from the hurricane. I hope you will be safe at home. :star:


    The baby blanket is done!!! I have a tiny bit of embellishment left to do.

    Katla in NW Oregon
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,611 Member
    edited August 2021
    Each year (since I have started working where I am now) I wait for August 20th to roll around. That's the date when I can actually do my entire trip home from work in some shreds of daylight. :):)

    It only gets better from here ... until next April 20th when the darkness descends again.

    But meanwhile, I always feel better when there is daylight after work ... and it will be even better when DST starts soon. :)


    Today reached 17C when we went for a ride, with quite a bit of wind. At home, I had several windows open a little bit to get the fresh air in.

    And there are signs of spring around!


    Machka in Oz
  • Katla49
    Katla49 Posts: 10,385 Member
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  • bananasandoranges
    bananasandoranges Posts: 2,410 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    kizanne2 wrote: »
    Ok Been so busy at work. Reading mostly but wanted to add the information a few have asked about.

    Gallbladder cleanse and more
    So I'm going to break this into 3 sections probably. The cleanse itself. Other related medical information. My personal experience.

    The gallbladder cleanse. There is a great book called The amazing liver and gallbladder cleanse it's available via kindle and I think cost about $20. It's an interesting read. Well worth $20.

    I have read about lots of different version of this and I adapted my own. I'll list opt. optional or required rq. parts to the cleanse and what they do.

    The night before your cleanse clean out your bowels. I do 2 12 oz bottles of magnesium sulfate same as you would before a colonoscopy. RQ. the alternative is a colonic.

    2 days of apple juice. 2 cups every 2 hours for a total of 14 cups. No food *see below for opt. into*
    This gives you a bunch of natural malic acid and doesn't trigger your gallbladder because it has no fat. The malic acid helps soften gallstones. believe or not you won't be hungry.

    at 6 pm the of the second night I dissolve 4 tablespoons of epsom salts into 24 oz. of warm water. Then drink 6 oz. of this reserving the rest for later. RQ. Epsom salts are known to dilate your bile ducts so this is very important. I drink a little apple juice after this as it is very bitter. OPT.

    8pm drink 6 oz. of the epsom salt water. RQ. Rinse with apple juice. OPT.

    10 pm I take 4 oz of olive oil and mix it with some fresh squeezed citrus juice either lemon or grapefruit depending on what I have on hand. RQ. This causes strong contractions in your gallbladder.

    I lay down very still with my head higher than my stomach. Then try to sleep.

    6 am 6 oz epsom salt. RQ
    8 am 6 oz epsom salt. RQ this is generally when I start seeing stones.

    My last cleanse I didn't want all the apple juice so I did a fast and changed out the apple juice is malic acid. I'm not sure it worked as well and I was hungry.

    I also have started taking Ox bile tablets, Gold coin grass, and apple cider vinger.


    That's it that's the cleanse. I always feel better after but sometimes not for long periods. The general consensus from forums I've read is it works but you have to keep at it 10 - 12 times. SPaced at least 3 weeks apart.

    My personal experience. There is lots of information on the net about every kind of item. I was having mostly left side pain, naseau, heavy fatigue. They sent me for an ultrasound and found stones but did not say how big, how many or anything like that. They sent me to a surgeon. I didn't like reading that 30% of people who have the surgery still have problems that their issue isn't necessarily resolved. I asked to go to a gastroentenologiest who told me 40% of people have gallstones and never it know it because they don't always cause problems. I also have fatty liver.

    Since my pain was left side and I wasn't in right side pain. I decided to wait and research more. I did a cleanse. I felt better. I waited 2 months started to feel some pain or so and did another one. this goes on for a while and then my GP wants to run a hidascan since I didn't have the surgery. They say my gallbladder functions at 11%.

    I was first diagnosed April of 2020. I still occasionally get pain but the majority of my pain is gone. I am feeling better and I think my root problem is insulin resistance. This creates high cholesterol which in turn plays a role into forming gallstones.

    When reading and listening to doctors videos about insulin resistance it make so much sense why despite medical advances we are still a sick people. You can track the uptick in lots of diseases with the food that became popular partly due to industrialization and partly due to the USDA recommendations.

    Further insulin resistance is best measured by HOMA-IR but most general practitioning doctors only look at fasting blood sugar. By the time your fasting blood sugar is high enough to trigger their next step you most likely have type 2 diabetes. People really should keep track before that.

    Lastly if you have never had weight problems you maybe able to eat whatever USDA recommends and be healthy but those of us who have become overweight and then tried dieting to fix it often times this makes you insulin resistant so USDA can certainly work for people whose body hasn't been damaged. But a look at the data shows that the more people by survey (over time) who says they follow the USDA recommendations which are carb heavy the more incidence of diabetes, heart disease and such we have.

    Medical disscussion
    Most doctors won't recommend a clease because you may get a gallstone stuck in your duct.
    1. The epsom salt dialates your ducts helping to prevent this.
    2. The same doctors say they don't work but if they don't work, I mean if gallstones don't come out then how would you get a stone stuck?
    3. some people say well you can't get stuff to go up into your gallbladder so the apple juice and stuff isn't going there. Your body recycles 90% of your bile which goes back into your gallbladder and the medicine which does exist (prescription ursodiol which dissolve them slowly over time) So if you can't get stuff in there to help then why is there a prescription medicine that does just that?
    4. many say oh you aren't seeing stones. You are just seeing a soap like mixture make by the olive oil and citrus. Ok sound actually plausible. But I've done 6 of these and my husband being a good trooper has done them with me as support and a why not. For the first 5 I spit out lots of stones and he didn't spit out any. So the one who has stones on her ultrasound spits out soap but not the other guy who is eating/drinking the same exact thing.
    BTW on the 6th cleanse he got a few stones out.

    Could I end up at the hospital in pain and needing my gallbladder out due to the cleanse. yes but they already wanted to yank it out.

    I really feel they are helping and there are lots of other people who swear they have helped them as well. It isn't a quick fix like surgery.

    Surgery makes some people better and great and wonderful. For too large a portion for my liking. It makes it hard to eat protein and fat. It give them diarrhea because the bile now just seeps out constantly into the intestines. For others the pain doesn't go away because it wasn't cause by the gallbladder. Even with your gallbladder out you can still get stones forming in your liver. Look up biliary stones.

    I'm not a medical doctor and I don't know where my journey will end but the chinese have been doing some similar things like ox bile, gold coin grass and cleanses for thousands of years as a gallbladder management system. I love modern medicine but I don't know that gallbladder removal is a great idea.

    On the other side by not removing it I do increase the odds of getting pancreatitis.

    Insulin Resistance
    If you are still reading and interested watch this https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dr+ekberg+insulin+resistance&view=detail&mid=06F2C51425564208D09D06F2C51425564208D09D&FORM=VIRE

    there is so much more but it's a start.

    2 days of apple juice. 2 cups every 2 hours for a total of 14 cups.


    That's 1600 calories of sugar! I'd be so dizzy, I'd have trouble standing up!

    https://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/fruits-and-fruit-juices/2075/2

    I was also thinking I wouldn't fare well with so much sweetness and large quantity of food with mild acidity.
  • bananasandoranges
    bananasandoranges Posts: 2,410 Member
    auntiebk wrote: »
    "Get to do"s and "chose well"s


    Funny but an hour’s worth of work on the fire district board meeting minutes left me feeling way more accomplished than all the housework hours yesterday. ;)

    T’ai Chi is cancelled for two weeks due leader having been exposed to C-19. Just so doggoned discouraging. In my head I know this will all burn out in another year, but in my heart I’m whining. Will try to view it as an opportunity to practice on the deck, or in the park before “Walk with Ease” or maybe even get out those torture bands.

    Julie “. . . cleaning is always an option, to avoid other stuff.” True, but there are few things (minutes, taxes) that I detest more than cleaning… ;) Glad you have the option of Hospital #2. :love: your positive take on the “lumineuse” comment. :relaxed:

    Well it's interesting that doing the minutes that you detest doing more, makes you feel more accomplished!
    Sorry about the class cancelation. I wonder if they are going to start canceling things here.

  • bananasandoranges
    bananasandoranges Posts: 2,410 Member
    Very long coffee at café. ran into friend there who was on vacation last week. she asked if I had been going this week. yes, both of us have but we are both unpredictable in our hours. so we missed one another! We talked for 4h! about all sorts of things.
  • grandmallie
    grandmallie Posts: 10,097 Member
    Morning again ladies
    Went back to sleep,and it has been downgraded to a tropical storm we will see up to 5 inches of rain
    My daughter texted me and and they were able to get aquire a generator at Lowes this morning i dont know if its exactly what they wanted but hey at least its something..
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,611 Member
    Some here do intermittent fasting.
    Others do keto.
    I have tried those both a bit but don't feel comfortable with them.
    There's likely to be a bit of trial and error.
    I've been challenged since I can't run anymore. It was a great calorie burner and metabolism booster.
    Welcome!

    I aim for CI < CO (of course) but in order to do that, I accidentally do intermittent fasting (it's just how I eat - I didn't know there was a name for it) and lean toward something like a Mediterranean/vegetarian diet.

    I also try to exercise just about every day.

    One of my standards, 4-5 days a week, is to climb multiple flights of stairs.


    M in Oz
  • KJLaMore
    KJLaMore Posts: 2,847 Member
    Machka- What about turning your cards into usable art. You could scatter them across an end table or patio table, decoupage them onto the table surface, then coat them with clear acrylic/polyurethane. Or get a wood serving tray or end table that has a glass overlay, then you could simply slide your cards between the table and the glass. ?
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  • grandmallie
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    I did buy an rechargeable ultrasonic dog trainer for Alfie,I charged it up and just started using it this morning ,he started barking at the TV hit the button once ,stopped him in his tracks. We will see how it goes as the week goes by. Supposed to be going up to my friend Carolyns for dinner tonight
  • kizanne2
    kizanne2 Posts: 123 Member
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    Ok Been so busy at work. Reading mostly but wanted to add the information a few have asked about.

    Gallbladder cleanse and more
    So I'm going to break this into 3 sections probably. The cleanse itself. Other related medical information. My personal experience.

    The gallbladder cleanse. There is a great book called The amazing liver and gallbladder cleanse it's available via kindle and I think cost about $20. It's an interesting read. Well worth $20.

    I have read about lots of different version of this and I adapted my own. I'll list opt. optional or required rq. parts to the cleanse and what they do.

    The night before your cleanse clean out your bowels. I do 2 12 oz bottles of magnesium sulfate same as you would before a colonoscopy. RQ. the alternative is a colonic.

    2 days of apple juice. 2 cups every 2 hours for a total of 14 cups. No food *see below for opt. into*
    This gives you a bunch of natural malic acid and doesn't trigger your gallbladder because it has no fat. The malic acid helps soften gallstones. believe or not you won't be hungry.

    at 6 pm the of the second night I dissolve 4 tablespoons of epsom salts into 24 oz. of warm water. Then drink 6 oz. of this reserving the rest for later. RQ. Epsom salts are known to dilate your bile ducts so this is very important. I drink a little apple juice after this as it is very bitter. OPT.

    8pm drink 6 oz. of the epsom salt water. RQ. Rinse with apple juice. OPT.

    10 pm I take 4 oz of olive oil and mix it with some fresh squeezed citrus juice either lemon or grapefruit depending on what I have on hand. RQ. This causes strong contractions in your gallbladder.

    I lay down very still with my head higher than my stomach. Then try to sleep.

    6 am 6 oz epsom salt. RQ
    8 am 6 oz epsom salt. RQ this is generally when I start seeing stones.

    My last cleanse I didn't want all the apple juice so I did a fast and changed out the apple juice is malic acid. I'm not sure it worked as well and I was hungry.

    I also have started taking Ox bile tablets, Gold coin grass, and apple cider vinger.


    That's it that's the cleanse. I always feel better after but sometimes not for long periods. The general consensus from forums I've read is it works but you have to keep at it 10 - 12 times. SPaced at least 3 weeks apart.

    My personal experience. There is lots of information on the net about every kind of item. I was having mostly left side pain, naseau, heavy fatigue. They sent me for an ultrasound and found stones but did not say how big, how many or anything like that. They sent me to a surgeon. I didn't like reading that 30% of people who have the surgery still have problems that their issue isn't necessarily resolved. I asked to go to a gastroentenologiest who told me 40% of people have gallstones and never it know it because they don't always cause problems. I also have fatty liver.

    Since my pain was left side and I wasn't in right side pain. I decided to wait and research more. I did a cleanse. I felt better. I waited 2 months started to feel some pain or so and did another one. this goes on for a while and then my GP wants to run a hidascan since I didn't have the surgery. They say my gallbladder functions at 11%.

    I was first diagnosed April of 2020. I still occasionally get pain but the majority of my pain is gone. I am feeling better and I think my root problem is insulin resistance. This creates high cholesterol which in turn plays a role into forming gallstones.

    When reading and listening to doctors videos about insulin resistance it make so much sense why despite medical advances we are still a sick people. You can track the uptick in lots of diseases with the food that became popular partly due to industrialization and partly due to the USDA recommendations.

    Further insulin resistance is best measured by HOMA-IR but most general practitioning doctors only look at fasting blood sugar. By the time your fasting blood sugar is high enough to trigger their next step you most likely have type 2 diabetes. People really should keep track before that.

    Lastly if you have never had weight problems you maybe able to eat whatever USDA recommends and be healthy but those of us who have become overweight and then tried dieting to fix it often times this makes you insulin resistant so USDA can certainly work for people whose body hasn't been damaged. But a look at the data shows that the more people by survey (over time) who says they follow the USDA recommendations which are carb heavy the more incidence of diabetes, heart disease and such we have.

    Medical disscussion
    Most doctors won't recommend a clease because you may get a gallstone stuck in your duct.
    1. The epsom salt dialates your ducts helping to prevent this.
    2. The same doctors say they don't work but if they don't work, I mean if gallstones don't come out then how would you get a stone stuck?
    3. some people say well you can't get stuff to go up into your gallbladder so the apple juice and stuff isn't going there. Your body recycles 90% of your bile which goes back into your gallbladder and the medicine which does exist (prescription ursodiol which dissolve them slowly over time) So if you can't get stuff in there to help then why is there a prescription medicine that does just that?
    4. many say oh you aren't seeing stones. You are just seeing a soap like mixture make by the olive oil and citrus. Ok sound actually plausible. But I've done 6 of these and my husband being a good trooper has done them with me as support and a why not. For the first 5 I spit out lots of stones and he didn't spit out any. So the one who has stones on her ultrasound spits out soap but not the other guy who is eating/drinking the same exact thing.
    BTW on the 6th cleanse he got a few stones out.

    Could I end up at the hospital in pain and needing my gallbladder out due to the cleanse. yes but they already wanted to yank it out.

    I really feel they are helping and there are lots of other people who swear they have helped them as well. It isn't a quick fix like surgery.

    Surgery makes some people better and great and wonderful. For too large a portion for my liking. It makes it hard to eat protein and fat. It give them diarrhea because the bile now just seeps out constantly into the intestines. For others the pain doesn't go away because it wasn't cause by the gallbladder. Even with your gallbladder out you can still get stones forming in your liver. Look up biliary stones.

    I'm not a medical doctor and I don't know where my journey will end but the chinese have been doing some similar things like ox bile, gold coin grass and cleanses for thousands of years as a gallbladder management system. I love modern medicine but I don't know that gallbladder removal is a great idea.

    On the other side by not removing it I do increase the odds of getting pancreatitis.

    Insulin Resistance
    If you are still reading and interested watch this https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dr+ekberg+insulin+resistance&view=detail&mid=06F2C51425564208D09D06F2C51425564208D09D&FORM=VIRE

    there is so much more but it's a start.
    4. many say oh you aren't seeing stones. You are just seeing a soap like mixture make by the olive oil and citrus. Ok sound actually plausible. But I've done 6 of these and my husband being a good trooper has done them with me as support and a why not. For the first 5 I spit out lots of stones and he didn't spit out any. So the one who has stones on her ultrasound spits out soap but not the other guy who is eating/drinking the same exact thing.


    Gallstones don't go out the mouth (spitting). If they go out, they go the other direction.

    Um yeah I was using a figure of speech. You pass them in your bowel which will be plentiful and liquid since you are taking epsom salts and been on a liquid diet.

    And yes it is 1600 calories a day. But it isn't a diet for losing weight it's part of the cleanse for the acid. That's why my last one I choose to do a fast with malic acid. I don't want all the sugar.

    But I wasn't trying to convince anyone to do anything. I just thought I'd let you know what it is since 2 people asked.

    I also wasn't convinced that my problems were gallstones becuase my pain was left side. I did do lots of research after they found them. Yours sounds like a possible stone in the duct. Did the new CT scan find anything?
  • Snowflake1968
    Snowflake1968 Posts: 6,952 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
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    Started the ride late in the afternoon, but in daylight ... then the sun set and the full moon rose. :)


    Machka in Oz

    Beautiful 😍 photo!
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  • cityjaneLondon
    cityjaneLondon Posts: 12,712 Member
    Hi everyone!
    I've had the day to myself, with DH at his daughter's, and I feel refreshed. He's due back in 30 mins.
    Quite a bit of the morning was talking to my old friend from university who was very close to Carol, the friend who died recently.She rang in tears. She also wanted to chat about her hip operation. It has kept on being delayed, but she has been very proactive, and has a 2nd appointment with the consultant tomorrow. Go gurl!!!! She has had to go on Tramadol for the pain! :# She is a yoga teacher. We chatted for ages.
    Lovely lunch of curry laksa with prawns. <3
    Then rowing, with German, then a nap. :D
    Then sorting photos. At least I have made a start in roughly sorting them into categories. Better than nothing. Still a bit to go, but the floor is empty for the cleaner tomorrow.
    It's a strange process, and I haven't labelled anything yet, but it's given me more a sense of my ancestry and history.
    I do need to write some labels for posterity! :o

    Good day.

    We've decided on the wall colour. Dulux, Waterlily pink 5. We were thinking of having deeper pink doors, but I'm going for slightly off white with a hint of pink. Sanded and sealed banister rail.
    Painter starts on Tuesday.

    Love Heather UK xxxxxxxx
  • dlfk202000
    dlfk202000 Posts: 3,192 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
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    Went out and picked more raspberries- may freeze these- too many to eat fresh and not enough to make more than about a jar or two of jam.

    :):)

    We've got about half a dozen raspberry plants now. Last year's crop didn't work out - warm weather hit at a time when we were away and they didn't get watered enough. But I'm hopeful for this year. :)


    M in Oz

    I started out with two plants, then bought two more- the first two plants have SPREAD everywhere. Now I have an area that is over 12-14ft long, maybe longer. I have dug up some of them because they were in the middle of my lawn.

    Ours are in pots so they're contained. If we owned the place we live, we'd likely put them in the ground.

    However, we went to a raspberry orchard and found they used pots too, so we figured if they could, we could. :)

    Unfortunately, it does mean they need a bit more water, I think.

    M in Oz

    mine are in half wine barrels- they have grown through the bottom and spread that way. Most of my yard is pots except the roses that were here before we moved in 29yrs ago.
    Yes, they do need more water- that is a problem here with mine in the front. I forget to water them like I should.I am doing better this summer with them because I have to make sure all the bird baths/waters are filled a few times a day(one is solar and water splashes out because the bin is not big enough so have to refill it) The birds are enjoying it. First time having bird feeders and baths always filled.

    Debbie