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snowflake954 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »SummerSkier wrote: »So a friend of mine's son went to Hawaii for a party with his friends (he's 30 something) a week or so ago. Almost everyone at the party was vaccinated. He told her his friends who had Pfizer got sick with covid, and everyone who had Moderna did not. I believe he was vaccinated back in March/April time frame with Pfizer. He was ill but did not need to be hospitalized. He did not say anything about unvaccinated kids.
My unscientific personal knowledge about breakthroughs have all been Pfizer, and I was leaning towards that more were vaccinated with it as a reason. Maybe not. So far personal experience I have not heard of a breakthrough on the J&J or Moderna.
Here's another anecdote - when my partner's brother's 2 year old unvaccinated grandson got everyone sick, between all of them, they had taken all three brands available - Pfizer, J&J and Moderna.
Was anyone hospitalized?
The cases that we have here are mostly Delta, but hospitalizations and intensive care for COVID are way down.
No, thanks, I edited my post to add that no one needed to be hospitalized.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Adding a comment about internet and drug reaction information. It relates to my 84 year old mother. She has been dealing with pain and anxiety issues and her PCP prescribed her a med which is known to help with both. I attended the appointment so am fully aware of discussion. PCP put her on very low initial dose to monitor adverse reactions and see if beneficial. At one month, mom had followup telemedicine, which I attended again. At this time, my mother started talking about all the terrible side effects she read about. PCP asked about how she was feeling and verified no side effects were happening, and only positive improvements were evident. PCP explained this to my mom and pointed out that she was not having adverse affects and that the reason for the initial low dose was so that any adverse effects, if any, would be smaller. Roughly a week ago (almost 3 months on the medication), my mother talked to me again about all the terrible side effects she read about, and how she needs to talk to the doctor about it. I told her that she already had and explained the whole conversation again. As an outsider looking in, her shaking has stopped and her normal personality is returning but all she can think about is the list of possible side effects she read about on the internet.
@SModa61: does this happen to be Cymbalta? I've been prescribed this recently, am waiting for it to arrive in the mail, and meanwhile am wondering about all the side effects I've read about
I haven't been able to take the last two anti-anxiety meds so my doctor is starting me on a very low dose - 20 mg. And, funny story, my soon to be 84 yo mother has recently been switched to Cymbalta for pain (and depression) and she is getting 30 mg.
@kshama2001 OMG you guessed the exact med! I think her initial dose was 10 mg and if I recall correctly, she is now 10 mg twice a day. I hope you and your mother both benefit from the medication!3 -
greyhoundwalker wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Not everyone uses the media. I informed someone about to take a longer road trip that there were pressures on the fuel system caused by a shortage of drivers not poor fuel levels and he had not heard. People filling up is happening, so petrol stations are out of fuel till their next delivery arrives.
I observed a stream of traffic going to one supermarket yesterday which was out of fuel till they get a delivery. At a service station near a traffic light controlled crossing cars were backing up to the lights and others were trying to cross lanes. Then at the nearest supermarket it was impossible to get into the carpark for food, for the line of vehicles going to the pumps. Its outrageous. Given a week I would hope those who actually use less fuel will not be filling up again leaving more for more responsible persons.
???
In the UK we have a shortage of fuel (petrol/diesel) caused by shortage of long haul lorry drivers. People here are behaving like they did with toilet rolls back at the beginning of the pandemic. Queuing up to squeeze a tiny bit in their tanks to keep them full, causing long tailbacks and blocking roads and entrances. Luckily I already filled up last week and if I’m careful what I have will last me 2-3 weeks when hopefully people have calmed down.
Time for electric cars!
Just charge them up at home.
I've been driving electric for two years now. I don't miss the gas station stops in the freezing cold, or everytime I'm already late. lol5 -
HawkingRadiation wrote: »greyhoundwalker wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Not everyone uses the media. I informed someone about to take a longer road trip that there were pressures on the fuel system caused by a shortage of drivers not poor fuel levels and he had not heard. People filling up is happening, so petrol stations are out of fuel till their next delivery arrives.
I observed a stream of traffic going to one supermarket yesterday which was out of fuel till they get a delivery. At a service station near a traffic light controlled crossing cars were backing up to the lights and others were trying to cross lanes. Then at the nearest supermarket it was impossible to get into the carpark for food, for the line of vehicles going to the pumps. Its outrageous. Given a week I would hope those who actually use less fuel will not be filling up again leaving more for more responsible persons.
???
In the UK we have a shortage of fuel (petrol/diesel) caused by shortage of long haul lorry drivers. People here are behaving like they did with toilet rolls back at the beginning of the pandemic. Queuing up to squeeze a tiny bit in their tanks to keep them full, causing long tailbacks and blocking roads and entrances. Luckily I already filled up last week and if I’m careful what I have will last me 2-3 weeks when hopefully people have calmed down.
Time for electric cars!
Just charge them up at home.
I've been driving electric for two years now. I don't miss the gas station stops in the freezing cold, or everytime I'm already late. lol
The US doesn't have the raw materials needed for batteries. Also poor chip supplies. Electric cars use 10X the number of chips conventional vehicles do.
Electric vehicles are a novelty unit these issues are addressed.
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »HawkingRadiation wrote: »greyhoundwalker wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Not everyone uses the media. I informed someone about to take a longer road trip that there were pressures on the fuel system caused by a shortage of drivers not poor fuel levels and he had not heard. People filling up is happening, so petrol stations are out of fuel till their next delivery arrives.
I observed a stream of traffic going to one supermarket yesterday which was out of fuel till they get a delivery. At a service station near a traffic light controlled crossing cars were backing up to the lights and others were trying to cross lanes. Then at the nearest supermarket it was impossible to get into the carpark for food, for the line of vehicles going to the pumps. Its outrageous. Given a week I would hope those who actually use less fuel will not be filling up again leaving more for more responsible persons.
???
In the UK we have a shortage of fuel (petrol/diesel) caused by shortage of long haul lorry drivers. People here are behaving like they did with toilet rolls back at the beginning of the pandemic. Queuing up to squeeze a tiny bit in their tanks to keep them full, causing long tailbacks and blocking roads and entrances. Luckily I already filled up last week and if I’m careful what I have will last me 2-3 weeks when hopefully people have calmed down.
Time for electric cars!
Just charge them up at home.
I've been driving electric for two years now. I don't miss the gas station stops in the freezing cold, or everytime I'm already late. lol
The US doesn't have the raw materials needed for batteries. Also poor chip supplies. Electric cars use 10X the number of chips conventional vehicles do.
Electric vehicles are a novelty unit these issues are addressed.
And infrastructure. The only charging station I've ever seen in my life is at my doctor's office. I live in an old neighborhood near downtown in a pretty large city. Whether you're in a house or an apartment, it's not likely you have a garage to put a charging outlet in. I can't think of anyone I know in the neighborhood that even has a garage, much less one you could park a modern car in. It's all street parking and you'd need one heck of an extension cord to charge a car! Electric cars are intriguing, but not enough to banish myself to outer suburbia where I'd have the space to plug it in5 -
In the San Francisco bay area we have plenty of charging stations (there's even a bank of 8 in our downtown parking garage, which is about a ten minute walk). A lot of parking lots have a couple, and many are free. We have a Bolt with an ideal range of 200 miles per full charge (a lovely fantasy), but there's plenty of miles to get my husband back and forth to work. We challenge ourselves with never having to pay for charging Realistically, we can't take the car on trips where we would have to charge along the way since we can't rely on there being a station when we need it, but we are fortunate that our circumstances allow us the luxury of having an electric car that reduces our fuel costs.
Of course, we're living on the edge, since there's always the possibility the battery will blow up before we get a replacement. Life has it's tradeoffs13 -
HawkingRadiation wrote: »greyhoundwalker wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Not everyone uses the media. I informed someone about to take a longer road trip that there were pressures on the fuel system caused by a shortage of drivers not poor fuel levels and he had not heard. People filling up is happening, so petrol stations are out of fuel till their next delivery arrives.
I observed a stream of traffic going to one supermarket yesterday which was out of fuel till they get a delivery. At a service station near a traffic light controlled crossing cars were backing up to the lights and others were trying to cross lanes. Then at the nearest supermarket it was impossible to get into the carpark for food, for the line of vehicles going to the pumps. Its outrageous. Given a week I would hope those who actually use less fuel will not be filling up again leaving more for more responsible persons.
???
In the UK we have a shortage of fuel (petrol/diesel) caused by shortage of long haul lorry drivers. People here are behaving like they did with toilet rolls back at the beginning of the pandemic. Queuing up to squeeze a tiny bit in their tanks to keep them full, causing long tailbacks and blocking roads and entrances. Luckily I already filled up last week and if I’m careful what I have will last me 2-3 weeks when hopefully people have calmed down.
Time for electric cars!
Just charge them up at home.
I've been driving electric for two years now. I don't miss the gas station stops in the freezing cold, or everytime I'm already late. lol
Get back to me when there’s an electric van that can hold a power wheelchair, and doesn’t cost $50K or more.7 -
Italy has made the decision to go with electric (or hybrid) cars. I'm seeing more and more hybrids on the streets. The renter of one of our parking spaces asked my husband to authorize an electric hookup for his new hybrid. Going to the pool I pass a big government building. Out front are parked their government provided cars--75% are hybrids.
Sorry for the hyjack. Maybe we should start a new thread?6 -
HawkingRadiation wrote: »greyhoundwalker wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Not everyone uses the media. I informed someone about to take a longer road trip that there were pressures on the fuel system caused by a shortage of drivers not poor fuel levels and he had not heard. People filling up is happening, so petrol stations are out of fuel till their next delivery arrives.
I observed a stream of traffic going to one supermarket yesterday which was out of fuel till they get a delivery. At a service station near a traffic light controlled crossing cars were backing up to the lights and others were trying to cross lanes. Then at the nearest supermarket it was impossible to get into the carpark for food, for the line of vehicles going to the pumps. Its outrageous. Given a week I would hope those who actually use less fuel will not be filling up again leaving more for more responsible persons.
???
In the UK we have a shortage of fuel (petrol/diesel) caused by shortage of long haul lorry drivers. People here are behaving like they did with toilet rolls back at the beginning of the pandemic. Queuing up to squeeze a tiny bit in their tanks to keep them full, causing long tailbacks and blocking roads and entrances. Luckily I already filled up last week and if I’m careful what I have will last me 2-3 weeks when hopefully people have calmed down.
Time for electric cars!
Just charge them up at home.
I've been driving electric for two years now. I don't miss the gas station stops in the freezing cold, or everytime I'm already late. lol
I love the idea of an electric car, but as has been mentioned, lack of infrastructure, chip shortages, and the lack of raw materials to produce batteries, not to mention the price tag kind of makes it a non-starter right now. There are a handful of charging stations in NM, most of which are in Santa Fe or the ABQ metro area. If you're just cruising around the metro or Santa Fe, you'd be fine, but NM is a large geographical state so getting around anywhere else would be a problem. I couldn't even get to my sister's house on a charge that most of these hold.
I would say right now, it's still in the early adopter phase. Definitely more out there these days, but infrastructure is a big issue IMO if you drive a lot. I drive roughly 20K miles per year.5 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »HawkingRadiation wrote: »greyhoundwalker wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Not everyone uses the media. I informed someone about to take a longer road trip that there were pressures on the fuel system caused by a shortage of drivers not poor fuel levels and he had not heard. People filling up is happening, so petrol stations are out of fuel till their next delivery arrives.
I observed a stream of traffic going to one supermarket yesterday which was out of fuel till they get a delivery. At a service station near a traffic light controlled crossing cars were backing up to the lights and others were trying to cross lanes. Then at the nearest supermarket it was impossible to get into the carpark for food, for the line of vehicles going to the pumps. Its outrageous. Given a week I would hope those who actually use less fuel will not be filling up again leaving more for more responsible persons.
???
In the UK we have a shortage of fuel (petrol/diesel) caused by shortage of long haul lorry drivers. People here are behaving like they did with toilet rolls back at the beginning of the pandemic. Queuing up to squeeze a tiny bit in their tanks to keep them full, causing long tailbacks and blocking roads and entrances. Luckily I already filled up last week and if I’m careful what I have will last me 2-3 weeks when hopefully people have calmed down.
Time for electric cars!
Just charge them up at home.
I've been driving electric for two years now. I don't miss the gas station stops in the freezing cold, or everytime I'm already late. lol
The US doesn't have the raw materials needed for batteries. Also poor chip supplies. Electric cars use 10X the number of chips conventional vehicles do.
Electric vehicles are a novelty unit these issues are addressed.
Tesla has figured out how to take old chips, reprogram them, and use in new vehicles. Elon Musk shared this in August as the explanation why Tesla has not been affected by the chip shortage as other vehicle manufacturers have been. So in reality, the chip supply is more relevant to traditional gas vehicles made by major automotive manufacturers and not electric Tesla vehicles. Obviously any electric cars made by other manufacturers will be affected by the chip shortage just like gas cars.3 -
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.10.21263385v2
J&J released study data, showing around 80% effectiveness against moderate disease and against hospitalization. Study cohort was almost 400,000 people and was done over this summer so it includes Delta.
They also released data reporting a small lab study that didn't seem to show much improvement from a 2 dose initial dose rather than the one. It does seem to show a nice boost from a booster 6 months out. But again this was a Petrie dish study and I believe it is preprint.
Those effectiveness numbers are pretty good considering they include delta.6 -
Not everyone uses the media. I informed someone about to take a longer road trip that there were pressures on the fuel system caused by a shortage of drivers not poor fuel levels and he had not heard. People filling up is happening, so petrol stations are out of fuel till their next delivery arrives.
I observed a stream of traffic going to one supermarket yesterday which was out of fuel till they get a delivery. At a service station near a traffic light controlled crossing cars were backing up to the lights and others were trying to cross lanes. Then at the nearest supermarket it was impossible to get into the carpark for food, for the line of vehicles going to the pumps. Its outrageous. Given a week I would hope those who actually use less fuel will not be filling up again leaving more for more responsible persons.
This made the news on public radio here in the US tonight. (And likely other nights - I mostly listen in my car, and am not in my car most days and don't always listen to the news when I am.)
When I got home first I told my partner that I'd forgotten to leave some "lovely filth" at Mom's (compost; a reference to a scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail) and then I told him about the fuel issues story, and he immediately started reciting this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2c-X8HiBng4 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »HawkingRadiation wrote: »greyhoundwalker wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Not everyone uses the media. I informed someone about to take a longer road trip that there were pressures on the fuel system caused by a shortage of drivers not poor fuel levels and he had not heard. People filling up is happening, so petrol stations are out of fuel till their next delivery arrives.
I observed a stream of traffic going to one supermarket yesterday which was out of fuel till they get a delivery. At a service station near a traffic light controlled crossing cars were backing up to the lights and others were trying to cross lanes. Then at the nearest supermarket it was impossible to get into the carpark for food, for the line of vehicles going to the pumps. Its outrageous. Given a week I would hope those who actually use less fuel will not be filling up again leaving more for more responsible persons.
???
In the UK we have a shortage of fuel (petrol/diesel) caused by shortage of long haul lorry drivers. People here are behaving like they did with toilet rolls back at the beginning of the pandemic. Queuing up to squeeze a tiny bit in their tanks to keep them full, causing long tailbacks and blocking roads and entrances. Luckily I already filled up last week and if I’m careful what I have will last me 2-3 weeks when hopefully people have calmed down.
Time for electric cars!
Just charge them up at home.
I've been driving electric for two years now. I don't miss the gas station stops in the freezing cold, or everytime I'm already late. lol
The US doesn't have the raw materials needed for batteries. Also poor chip supplies. Electric cars use 10X the number of chips conventional vehicles do.
Electric vehicles are a novelty unit these issues are addressed.
And infrastructure. The only charging station I've ever seen in my life is at my doctor's office. I live in an old neighborhood near downtown in a pretty large city. Whether you're in a house or an apartment, it's not likely you have a garage to put a charging outlet in. I can't think of anyone I know in the neighborhood that even has a garage, much less one you could park a modern car in. It's all street parking and you'd need one heck of an extension cord to charge a car! Electric cars are intriguing, but not enough to banish myself to outer suburbia where I'd have the space to plug it in
Last week, I noticed a charging station for the first time in our soon to be new town. My partner said there is also a station at the hospital in our soon to be old city.
I googled "charging stations near me" and see there are actually a lot - I'd just never noticed.
I don't know how this work - do you have to leave your car on the charger for hours? I guess the hospital is a good location for this. Maybe they should put them at libraries.2 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »HawkingRadiation wrote: »greyhoundwalker wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Not everyone uses the media. I informed someone about to take a longer road trip that there were pressures on the fuel system caused by a shortage of drivers not poor fuel levels and he had not heard. People filling up is happening, so petrol stations are out of fuel till their next delivery arrives.
I observed a stream of traffic going to one supermarket yesterday which was out of fuel till they get a delivery. At a service station near a traffic light controlled crossing cars were backing up to the lights and others were trying to cross lanes. Then at the nearest supermarket it was impossible to get into the carpark for food, for the line of vehicles going to the pumps. Its outrageous. Given a week I would hope those who actually use less fuel will not be filling up again leaving more for more responsible persons.
???
In the UK we have a shortage of fuel (petrol/diesel) caused by shortage of long haul lorry drivers. People here are behaving like they did with toilet rolls back at the beginning of the pandemic. Queuing up to squeeze a tiny bit in their tanks to keep them full, causing long tailbacks and blocking roads and entrances. Luckily I already filled up last week and if I’m careful what I have will last me 2-3 weeks when hopefully people have calmed down.
Time for electric cars!
Just charge them up at home.
I've been driving electric for two years now. I don't miss the gas station stops in the freezing cold, or everytime I'm already late. lol
The US doesn't have the raw materials needed for batteries. Also poor chip supplies. Electric cars use 10X the number of chips conventional vehicles do.
Electric vehicles are a novelty unit these issues are addressed.
And infrastructure. The only charging station I've ever seen in my life is at my doctor's office. I live in an old neighborhood near downtown in a pretty large city. Whether you're in a house or an apartment, it's not likely you have a garage to put a charging outlet in. I can't think of anyone I know in the neighborhood that even has a garage, much less one you could park a modern car in. It's all street parking and you'd need one heck of an extension cord to charge a car! Electric cars are intriguing, but not enough to banish myself to outer suburbia where I'd have the space to plug it in
Last week, I noticed a charging station for the first time in our soon to be new town. My partner said there is also a station at the hospital in our soon to be old city.
I googled "charging stations near me" and see there are actually a lot - I'd just never noticed.
I don't know how this work - do you have to leave your car on the charger for hours? I guess the hospital is a good location for this. Maybe they should put them at libraries.
Here they talk about "super charging" which would get you a charge in less time. I really don't know how it works though. We're still just beginning. However, Rome is to go electric in the future--there is a plan.3 -
Normally you never charge at a charging station. My Tesla has a 300 mi charge capacity. The newer ones will have 500mi (soon or already?) I commute about 100 mi total each day, so theoretically need to charge it up once every couple of days. I just plug it in my garage every night though.
I agree that this is not currently viable for apartment dwellers. Constantly supercharging the car is not considered good for the battery.
Apologies, I didn't mean to hijack thread.
I live in a high-vacc state and hubbie and I are both double-Pfizer. We have a 3 yr old that we are always very worried about though. I don't want him to end up with lifetime heart/lung problems because there are people who still won't get vacc'd.
In a few years we will find out just how much damage the virus has wreaked on even the 'mild' cases.
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On the topic of electric cars, due to the time required to charge a vehicle, I can’t comprehend how charging would be handled for residents of large apartment/condo buildings.1
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »HawkingRadiation wrote: »greyhoundwalker wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Not everyone uses the media. I informed someone about to take a longer road trip that there were pressures on the fuel system caused by a shortage of drivers not poor fuel levels and he had not heard. People filling up is happening, so petrol stations are out of fuel till their next delivery arrives.
I observed a stream of traffic going to one supermarket yesterday which was out of fuel till they get a delivery. At a service station near a traffic light controlled crossing cars were backing up to the lights and others were trying to cross lanes. Then at the nearest supermarket it was impossible to get into the carpark for food, for the line of vehicles going to the pumps. Its outrageous. Given a week I would hope those who actually use less fuel will not be filling up again leaving more for more responsible persons.
???
In the UK we have a shortage of fuel (petrol/diesel) caused by shortage of long haul lorry drivers. People here are behaving like they did with toilet rolls back at the beginning of the pandemic. Queuing up to squeeze a tiny bit in their tanks to keep them full, causing long tailbacks and blocking roads and entrances. Luckily I already filled up last week and if I’m careful what I have will last me 2-3 weeks when hopefully people have calmed down.
Time for electric cars!
Just charge them up at home.
I've been driving electric for two years now. I don't miss the gas station stops in the freezing cold, or everytime I'm already late. lol
The US doesn't have the raw materials needed for batteries. Also poor chip supplies. Electric cars use 10X the number of chips conventional vehicles do.
Electric vehicles are a novelty unit these issues are addressed.
And infrastructure. The only charging station I've ever seen in my life is at my doctor's office. I live in an old neighborhood near downtown in a pretty large city. Whether you're in a house or an apartment, it's not likely you have a garage to put a charging outlet in. I can't think of anyone I know in the neighborhood that even has a garage, much less one you could park a modern car in. It's all street parking and you'd need one heck of an extension cord to charge a car! Electric cars are intriguing, but not enough to banish myself to outer suburbia where I'd have the space to plug it in
There's a surprising amount in the US: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a30031153/ev-charging-guide/
Apparently as of March 2020, there were 1,645 in the Chicago metro area (where I live), and there are more now. I figured there had to be plenty although I haven't personally noticed them, since I see plenty of electric cars. We are only the 5th ranked metro area in number of chargers.2 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Theoldguy1 wrote: »HawkingRadiation wrote: »greyhoundwalker wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Not everyone uses the media. I informed someone about to take a longer road trip that there were pressures on the fuel system caused by a shortage of drivers not poor fuel levels and he had not heard. People filling up is happening, so petrol stations are out of fuel till their next delivery arrives.
I observed a stream of traffic going to one supermarket yesterday which was out of fuel till they get a delivery. At a service station near a traffic light controlled crossing cars were backing up to the lights and others were trying to cross lanes. Then at the nearest supermarket it was impossible to get into the carpark for food, for the line of vehicles going to the pumps. Its outrageous. Given a week I would hope those who actually use less fuel will not be filling up again leaving more for more responsible persons.
???
In the UK we have a shortage of fuel (petrol/diesel) caused by shortage of long haul lorry drivers. People here are behaving like they did with toilet rolls back at the beginning of the pandemic. Queuing up to squeeze a tiny bit in their tanks to keep them full, causing long tailbacks and blocking roads and entrances. Luckily I already filled up last week and if I’m careful what I have will last me 2-3 weeks when hopefully people have calmed down.
Time for electric cars!
Just charge them up at home.
I've been driving electric for two years now. I don't miss the gas station stops in the freezing cold, or everytime I'm already late. lol
The US doesn't have the raw materials needed for batteries. Also poor chip supplies. Electric cars use 10X the number of chips conventional vehicles do.
Electric vehicles are a novelty unit these issues are addressed.
And infrastructure. The only charging station I've ever seen in my life is at my doctor's office. I live in an old neighborhood near downtown in a pretty large city. Whether you're in a house or an apartment, it's not likely you have a garage to put a charging outlet in. I can't think of anyone I know in the neighborhood that even has a garage, much less one you could park a modern car in. It's all street parking and you'd need one heck of an extension cord to charge a car! Electric cars are intriguing, but not enough to banish myself to outer suburbia where I'd have the space to plug it in
Last week, I noticed a charging station for the first time in our soon to be new town. My partner said there is also a station at the hospital in our soon to be old city.
I googled "charging stations near me" and see there are actually a lot - I'd just never noticed.
I don't know how this work - do you have to leave your car on the charger for hours? I guess the hospital is a good location for this. Maybe they should put them at libraries.
Apparently the fast chargers will charge to 80% in 30 minutes. Most people do it at home, however -- the site I linked above says 80% of charging is at home and a decent amount is at work.3 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »HawkingRadiation wrote: »greyhoundwalker wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Not everyone uses the media. I informed someone about to take a longer road trip that there were pressures on the fuel system caused by a shortage of drivers not poor fuel levels and he had not heard. People filling up is happening, so petrol stations are out of fuel till their next delivery arrives.
I observed a stream of traffic going to one supermarket yesterday which was out of fuel till they get a delivery. At a service station near a traffic light controlled crossing cars were backing up to the lights and others were trying to cross lanes. Then at the nearest supermarket it was impossible to get into the carpark for food, for the line of vehicles going to the pumps. Its outrageous. Given a week I would hope those who actually use less fuel will not be filling up again leaving more for more responsible persons.
???
In the UK we have a shortage of fuel (petrol/diesel) caused by shortage of long haul lorry drivers. People here are behaving like they did with toilet rolls back at the beginning of the pandemic. Queuing up to squeeze a tiny bit in their tanks to keep them full, causing long tailbacks and blocking roads and entrances. Luckily I already filled up last week and if I’m careful what I have will last me 2-3 weeks when hopefully people have calmed down.
Time for electric cars!
Just charge them up at home.
I've been driving electric for two years now. I don't miss the gas station stops in the freezing cold, or everytime I'm already late. lol
The US doesn't have the raw materials needed for batteries. Also poor chip supplies. Electric cars use 10X the number of chips conventional vehicles do.
Electric vehicles are a novelty unit these issues are addressed.
And infrastructure. The only charging station I've ever seen in my life is at my doctor's office. I live in an old neighborhood near downtown in a pretty large city. Whether you're in a house or an apartment, it's not likely you have a garage to put a charging outlet in. I can't think of anyone I know in the neighborhood that even has a garage, much less one you could park a modern car in. It's all street parking and you'd need one heck of an extension cord to charge a car! Electric cars are intriguing, but not enough to banish myself to outer suburbia where I'd have the space to plug it in
There's a surprising amount in the US: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a30031153/ev-charging-guide/
Apparently as of March 2020, there were 1,645 in the Chicago metro area (where I live), and there are more now. I figured there had to be plenty although I haven't personally noticed them, since I see plenty of electric cars. We are only the 5th ranked metro area in number of chargers.
There are 1.7M vehicles registered in Cook County, which isn't all of the Chicago metro area. There is a lot of expensive work needed be for EVs could even be a consideration for a small part of the registered vehicles.2 -
https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/threads/battery-based-electric-vehicles-of-today-and-tomorrow.418191/
Here is an EV thread I started two years ago to help another thread stay on subject when we bought our 2016 Nissan leaf SL. I am sure there are others.
It's not behind a paywall but like here you have to register to post. As you can read it is a tractor/rural living theme. Currently it is 474 pages long and some have a need to chase 🐰.
Living with long Covid now for 9 months I think this thread needs to stay on focus. Since most will drive or own an EV some day we are told EVs may be more healthy for our lungs than tail pipe emissions yet the anti EV force is strong but they don't have science supporting their anti views.
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