Coronavirus prep
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Saw Moderna might have an updated booster later this year. 🙏🙏2
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@summerskier Like you, I am also not convinced I want a 4th, or more, vaccination. I am not saying never, I'm just not rushing to be the front of the line and will decide when, and if, I am ready. I think DH is much more open to the 4th shot. I have just felt like crap after each of the 3, so I am not excited. PLUS, I need to finally get the darned shingles shots that I hear are going to make me feel awful too.
I am improving rapidly from the COVID. DH, is having a rough day today. Bad throat and keeps coughing up chunks of stuff.
I think I may have forgotten to update y'all about my second shingles shot. I felt abysmal after my first shingles shot, but I was diagnosed with the tick-born illness Anaplasmosis a few weeks later, and wasn't sure how much, if any, of my feeling bad was due to the shingles shot versus the Anaplasmosis.
I'm happy to report I had no issues other than mild sore arm after the second shingle shot.
Last fall I had the flu, shingles, and booster shots, but spread them all out because I was curious if I'd have a reaction to any particular one. Other than mild sore arms from possibly all three, I don't remember anything of note.
Hope you feel better soon!5 -
Regarding a fourth shot, here are the factors that matter to me.
- It will stimulate a short term flood of antibodies that peak in ~2 weeks. If I had an international trip or another occasion where I want extra protection, I would get the 4th shot a couple weeks before that. DH took our daughter to Europe and didn't want to be stuck abroad if he got sick, so he got the 4th shot before departing. I'm still waiting.
- Studies indicate less incremental T/B-cell training (the long term protection) with more frequent successive shots of the same booster. So waiting a year between boosters (of the same formulation) stimulated better training than waiting 4 months.
- mRNA makers have developed vaccines targeted specifically each of the major variants, but many factors contributed to not doing the translation from lab to clinic. It is a long and expensive process, and much depends on the FDA. AFAIK, from a public health messaging and confusion perspective, the FDA doesn't want new vaccines for every variant but if one were to emerge that was deadly and evaded the current vaccines, a new formulation could be worth the translational investment. If there were a new formulation approved, I would get that jab.SummerSkier wrote: »Saw Moderna might have an updated booster later this year. 🙏🙏
I'm a hermit and have no events where I'd want extra protection for the next few months so think I will wait for an updated booster.4 -
Progress towards normality in the UK. Visiting the care home yesterday the Assistant manager of the day was saying she can't wait till all restrictions are removed, looking forward to how things used to be, something we've not experienced. She went on to say when one visits a hospital now unless you have respiratory issues it is no longer required for one to wear masks. I should have asked what kind of respiratory issue was being referred to, a person with asthma for instance as a way of self protection or someone who could possibly be showing symptoms of covid,
I'd be masked anyway with a military grade filter because of my chemical sensitivity, its come back again. Its no fun reacting to cleaning products be they household or personal, laundry products or someone's perfume or aftershave. Then there are the pollens too. Even the smoke from someone burning garden rubbish or local heath fires to scuffing through deep damp leaf litter in the autumn! I suppose the last three are sort of related to petrochemicals which is another. I'm not that badly off that its each and every smell but its the knowing it can happen anywhere from passing next doors washing lines to being further away from someone in the open than the early early covid distancing required. I don't feel as self-conscious wearing a mask now thanks to covid. True I still get looked at but am assumed to be overly careful but not some odd ball now.9 -
I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)11
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I have managed to avoid covid so far, I don't know how much longer that will be the case.
I work in an Australian regional airport, nationwide mandatory mask wearing in airports was removed recently, and in my own state mandatory mask wearing in schools and on public transport is no longer mandatory. Mask wearing in medical settings including chemists is still mandatory.
In the last three or four days new cases have doubled, on a number basis not a lot approx 1000 in total today. In my state approx 33% have had covid, but we do have a high vaccination rate and initally some fairly long lock outs.
I will be off to Sydney in August and travelling overseas in November. I only hope when I do eventually get covid its well before my travel or after!
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One of my mom's friends has long covid severe enough that she can no longer live alone. Mom says she thinks she would survive catching covid, but is afraid of long term problems so will continue to mask and take precautions.10
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I am glad that for most folks these new variants spreading are not serious but more like the flu (which no one wants either!) but what is surprising to me is the changes in the CDC and other viewpoints. We have a weekly review at work and the # of cases the past 3 weeks would have put us in significant LOCKDOWN and masking if they had happened a year ago. Not as bad as the Dec/Jan original Omicron spikes but pretty durn close. So I guess it's all relative. I am sure the case load is understated in the county due to self testing.
Meanwhile I keep hoping they will release the dual moderna vaccine booster soon... looks promising from recent reports I read yesterday.4 -
I have been able to avoid Covid for so long, but always knew it was a question of when and not if I would get it. I am vaccinated and boosted, but have been working a lot of hours. It's been spreading around work like wildfire, and I am a manager, so I noticed in call offs that there has been a lot in the past week or so.
I had strong symptoms this morning and tested positive on a home test. Having type 1 diabetes doesn't seem to help, but being vaccinated does. Also I am fortunate that I was able to hold off until weaker strains. I called my insurance company's 24/7 nurse line and they suggested I go to the ER based on symptoms. I think they always make the most extreme suggestions. I'm going to urgent care for a proper test (need for work) and to get a more reasonable recommendation.24 -
T1DC, you have my commiserations. I'm sorry, its probably the long hours which weakened your immune system way over and above your t1. When one has managed to avoid covid contracting it for such a long time, vaccinated and boosted I was grumpy with myself when it happened to me, we'd been doing the "responsible thing" long hours looking after the ggs's. My daughter, like you has been doing stupidly long hours, and tested positive, as dark a line as you can get, she says. She is asthmatic so her immune system is always on the go to.
We are not being told very much about our case load here in the UK, the last I heard was 1/30. It seems to be assumed many are not testing or not reporting. My daughter did, the system here has changed, you don't just say you were positive you have to provide a photo of the test strip! Then they told her she was positive. There were reports of newer strains, reported to be more virulent going the rounds over here.
Hope you feel better soon, take all the advice offered and get well soon, please. Hope you can get back to running soon.5 -
I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)
I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.4 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »I have been able to avoid Covid for so long, but always knew it was a question of when and not if I would get it. I am vaccinated and boosted, but have been working a lot of hours. It's been spreading around work like wildfire, and I am a manager, so I noticed in call offs that there has been a lot in the past week or so.
I had strong symptoms this morning and tested positive on a home test. Having type 1 diabetes doesn't seem to help, but being vaccinated does. Also I am fortunate that I was able to hold off until weaker strains. I called my insurance company's 24/7 nurse line and they suggested I go to the ER based on symptoms. I think they always make the most extreme suggestions. I'm going to urgent care for a proper test (need for work) and to get a more reasonable recommendation.
There are treatments that can help keep you out of the hospital, but you need to take them early. Will the urgent care facility be able to give them to you? It may be why the nurse suggested the ER.2 -
DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)
I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.
I had the first round plus two boosters, and I haven't suffered from COVID at all because I haven't gotten COVID. No one I know who was fully vaccinated has had more than one infection (most have had none), none of them have ended up in the hospital as an in-patient (one who has a very serious underlying health condition was sent to a hospital for an out-patient course of antibody treatment, and was the only fully vaccinated person I knew to really feel sick from it for more than a day or two), and none of them have died. There is a school of thought that being vaccinated and boosted are doing way more good than harm.15 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »I have been able to avoid Covid for so long, but always knew it was a question of when and not if I would get it. I am vaccinated and boosted, but have been working a lot of hours. It's been spreading around work like wildfire, and I am a manager, so I noticed in call offs that there has been a lot in the past week or so.
I had strong symptoms this morning and tested positive on a home test. Having type 1 diabetes doesn't seem to help, but being vaccinated does. Also I am fortunate that I was able to hold off until weaker strains. I called my insurance company's 24/7 nurse line and they suggested I go to the ER based on symptoms. I think they always make the most extreme suggestions. I'm going to urgent care for a proper test (need for work) and to get a more reasonable recommendation.
There are treatments that can help keep you out of the hospital, but you need to take them early. Will the urgent care facility be able to give them to you? It may be why the nurse suggested the ER.
Urgent Care did not seem all that concerned. Said to get rest and fluids, see how things go. They said sometimes symptoms change day to day with the newest variant. I am especially annoyed by hiccups, which was unexpected and makes it hard to sleep8 -
DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)
I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.
That may be your n=1 experience and your experience of everyone you know who was jabbed. Or your confirmation bias perception of same.
But it is certainly not representative of what happens at population level.
Proportionately FAR more unvaccinated people have had worse Covid outcomes.
Probably why health advisors around the world support booster vaccinations, especially for at risk persons.
Could you provide source of your school of thought saying otherwise please.,13 -
I have seen a huge lack of concern of Covid being a thing anymore. Even I've slacked off from wearing a mask in the stores, or anywhere else.
But it's still very much around. My nephew and his family travelled several states away, by car, to attend a family event. Out of 10 people, 7 experienced Covid symptoms or tested positive. And it's just such a strange phenomenon, out of the 4 people in his immediate family, all of them had some symptoms(obviously some worse than others) but as far as testing positive or negative throughout that period, it seemed very sporadic. No wonder there is still so much confusion 'out there'.
Someone that my sister works with, brought her dd to work one day because her dd was sick and she had no one to care for her. I asked if she was tested and my sister said no, the mom said it was just a cold. Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't.
On one hand, I thought it irresponsible to bring a sick child to work where there are many people and some of them elderly. But OTOH, would testing be accurate anyways?? 6 -
DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)
I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.
I also am not vaxed (well I am prior military...I have had tons of vaxs just not this one) and had covid last October when delta was going around. My whole neighborhood got it even though I stayed clear of all of them so they didn't get it from me. My double vaxed neighbor got it from his work for the second time. He retired after that. He got covid pneumonia. My triple vaxed neighbor got it from him (I believe for the second time also) and didn't seem to fair much better than I. My whole family had it over the span of a couple weeks. None of us were hospitalized and none of us vaxed. Covid wasn't easy, I won't lie. I do have some kidney issues going on that may or may not have to do with covid, but nothing major. The kidney issues could very well be from drinking coffee like a fish and not drinking enough water and all the NSAIDS I've taken in my life (fibromyalgiaand back issues). A friend of mine got the Vax and now has heart problems bad enough that she had open heart surgery a couple weeks ago. She didn't have heart issues before that. My son refuses the Vax because his 17 year old immunocompromised friend (long distance)got the Vax, ended up in ICU with an inflamed heart and he never heard from him again. My son was devastating. This was before myocarditis was well known so I know this wasn't made up. Nobody has any idea what was going on. The boys sister answered the phone last and told my son that the doctors are very concerned and it's not looking good. The was the last we heard from him and this was a good friend of his. I don't know what the answer is here....possible organ damage/death from covid or possible organ damage/death from the vax. I have a friend who told me as soon as the shots came out his radio scanner for emergencies was running to strokes and heart attacks left and right! But I've also heard of many people dying from covid that I know or someone I know knows. All I know is, we got covid once and were not hospitalized. I think this is a deeply personal decision and we all need to stand by the consequences of whatever choice we make.5 -
I have seen a huge lack of concern of Covid being a thing anymore. Even I've slacked off from wearing a mask in the stores, or anywhere else. But it's still very much around. My nephew and his family travelled several states away, by car, to attend a family event. Out of 10 people, 7 experienced Covid symptoms or tested positive. And it's just such a strange phenomenon, out of the 4 people in his immediate family, all of them had some symptoms(obviously some worse than others) but as far as testing positive or negative throughout that period, it seemed very sporadic. No wonder there is still so much confusion 'out there'.
Someone that my sister works with, brought her dd to work one day because her dd was sick and she had no one to care for her. I asked if she was tested and my sister said no, the mom said it was just a cold. Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't. On one hand, I thought it irresponsible to bring a sick child to work where there are many people and some of them elderly. But OTOH, would testing be accurate anyways??
I stopped wearing masks for the most part everywhere. Yes it's still a concern but people are tired.3 -
DiscoveringLisa wrote: »I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)
I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.
I also am not vaxed (well I am prior military...I have had tons of vaxs just not this one) and had covid last October when delta was going around. My whole neighborhood got it even though I stayed clear of all of them so they didn't get it from me. My double vaxed neighbor got it from his work for the second time. He retired after that. He got covid pneumonia. My triple vaxed neighbor got it from him (I believe for the second time also) and didn't seem to fair much better than I. My whole family had it over the span of a couple weeks. None of us were hospitalized and none of us vaxed. Covid wasn't easy, I won't lie. I do have some kidney issues going on that may or may not have to do with covid, but nothing major. The kidney issues could very well be from drinking coffee like a fish and not drinking enough water and all the NSAIDS I've taken in my life (fibromyalgiaand back issues). A friend of mine got the Vax and now has heart problems bad enough that she had open heart surgery a couple weeks ago. She didn't have heart issues before that. My son refuses the Vax because his 17 year old immunocompromised friend (long distance)got the Vax, ended up in ICU with an inflamed heart and he never heard from him again. My son was devastating. This was before myocarditis was well known so I know this wasn't made up. Nobody has any idea what was going on. The boys sister answered the phone last and told my son that the doctors are very concerned and it's not looking good. The was the last we heard from him and this was a good friend of his. I don't know what the answer is here....possible organ damage/death from covid or possible organ damage/death from the vax. I have a friend who told me as soon as the shots came out his radio scanner for emergencies was running to strokes and heart attacks left and right! But I've also heard of many people dying from covid that I know or someone I know knows. All I know is, we got covid once and were not hospitalized. I think this is a deeply personal decision and we all need to stand by the consequences of whatever choice we make.
So much hearsay... none of it science. :noway:16 -
I have a friend who told me as soon as the shots came out his radio scanner for emergencies was running to strokes and heart attacks left and right!
as per previous poster, I strongly suspect confirmation bias at play here - probably on part of both your friend and yourself.
The friend wasn't a medical professional or anything, was just overhearing things on his scanner? (is that legal? it wouldnt be here in Aus)
Not really evidence.
If however you have actual evidence (official health stats, same info from credible source etc) verifying this, please do post them
Like I asked previous poster for source of her 'school of thought' that boosters are harmful.
None has yet been supplied.
People on MFP generally like evidence and science - so would be willing to read and consider such evidence fairly.
My own anecdotal experience as someone who runs Covid clinics and works in a medical centre - no noticeable increase in patients having heart attacks or strokes and people having boosters not reporting any thing other than mild side effects from previous doses.
However don't take my anecdotal experience as objective fact.
Here is link from Australian Bureau of statistics.https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/latest-release
It is quite detailed but one can scroll down to each cause of death and graph comparisons by year- doesnt seem any evidence of increased coronary event or stroke deaths
It could be different in your country - but I doubt it.
Willing to see evidence saying otherwise though.
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