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  • ythannah
    ythannah Posts: 4,393 Member
    33gail33 wrote: »
    SModa61 wrote: »
    @paperpudding I am very curious. I did reach out to my PCP to get our COVID illnesses into our medical record. All I was told is to take OTC meds and reach out if we got worse. Seemed to be no interest in noting the illness, but they could just not have told me that they were registering the reports.

    We don't have to report it here as far as I am aware (Canada). We can't even get a PCR test if we wanted one, and how would they ever enforce reporting a home test?

    Back when my husband had it in December they were still doing PCR tests so his case is in the official numbers I guess. Mine in April was just at at home test so no one "officially" knows that I had it, it's not reported anywhere and I didn't call my doctor. I believe that only thing they are tracking here now is hospitalizations, and that has been steadily decreasing.

    Agreed, I've never heard of anywhere you could report home test results. My doctor's receptionist would lose her *kitten* if she had to handle that volume of calls.

    Our health unit reports on positive PCRs (with the caveat that only vulnerable populations can get the tests), hospitalization, ICU occupancy and deaths. I've heard that waste water testing is being done in Ontario which at least tracks infection trends, but there's a lag in getting those results. It's not officially reported, we just hear occasionally "increasing" or "decreasing".
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,527 Member
    ythannah wrote: »
    33gail33 wrote: »
    SModa61 wrote: »
    @paperpudding I am very curious. I did reach out to my PCP to get our COVID illnesses into our medical record. All I was told is to take OTC meds and reach out if we got worse. Seemed to be no interest in noting the illness, but they could just not have told me that they were registering the reports.

    We don't have to report it here as far as I am aware (Canada). We can't even get a PCR test if we wanted one, and how would they ever enforce reporting a home test?

    Back when my husband had it in December they were still doing PCR tests so his case is in the official numbers I guess. Mine in April was just at at home test so no one "officially" knows that I had it, it's not reported anywhere and I didn't call my doctor. I believe that only thing they are tracking here now is hospitalizations, and that has been steadily decreasing.

    Agreed, I've never heard of anywhere you could report home test results. My doctor's receptionist would lose her *kitten* if she had to handle that volume of calls.
    .

    Well, now you have.
    Compulsory in SA and encouraged to do so in QLD

    But it doesn't affect doctors receptionists - you fill out a form online and it goes directly to SA Heath ( or QLD health or whatever state)

    PCR tests are available to anyone here.

  • 33gail33
    33gail33 Posts: 1,155 Member
    edited June 2022
    ythannah wrote: »
    33gail33 wrote: »
    SModa61 wrote: »
    @paperpudding I am very curious. I did reach out to my PCP to get our COVID illnesses into our medical record. All I was told is to take OTC meds and reach out if we got worse. Seemed to be no interest in noting the illness, but they could just not have told me that they were registering the reports.

    We don't have to report it here as far as I am aware (Canada). We can't even get a PCR test if we wanted one, and how would they ever enforce reporting a home test?

    Back when my husband had it in December they were still doing PCR tests so his case is in the official numbers I guess. Mine in April was just at at home test so no one "officially" knows that I had it, it's not reported anywhere and I didn't call my doctor. I believe that only thing they are tracking here now is hospitalizations, and that has been steadily decreasing.

    Agreed, I've never heard of anywhere you could report home test results. My doctor's receptionist would lose her *kitten* if she had to handle that volume of calls.
    .

    Well, now you have.
    Compulsory in SA and encouraged to do so in QLD

    But it doesn't affect doctors receptionists - you fill out a form online and it goes directly to SA Heath ( or QLD health or whatever state)

    PCR tests are available to anyone here.

    I believe she was agreeing with me that she had never heard of anywhere for us to report it (we both live in the same area). I doubt SA Health would have much interest in our Covid cases. :smile:
  • Fuzzipeg
    Fuzzipeg Posts: 2,305 Member
    Here in the UK, when we were in the thickest of the pandemic, when a home test was needed there was expectation to log into a Public health/NHS site and record the result of the test were it negative or positive, at one time you then went on for one of the other kind of tests. part of the information given was the reason for the test, if it was because you were symptomatic, or doing it to visit a health facility, I expect there were other situations too. It was through this line of reporting a positive test earlier in the year, we heard from our medical practice, saying there are treatments and support for those who were suffering more severe symptoms. I suppose it was part of the tracking and tracing part of our system. Our public health and NHS can do some things well. Its sad health treatments being controlled by an organisation called, NICE, are in my view, not keeping up with the scientific developments in preventative medicine, particularly autoimmunity.
  • ythannah
    ythannah Posts: 4,393 Member
    33gail33 wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    33gail33 wrote: »
    SModa61 wrote: »
    @paperpudding I am very curious. I did reach out to my PCP to get our COVID illnesses into our medical record. All I was told is to take OTC meds and reach out if we got worse. Seemed to be no interest in noting the illness, but they could just not have told me that they were registering the reports.

    We don't have to report it here as far as I am aware (Canada). We can't even get a PCR test if we wanted one, and how would they ever enforce reporting a home test?

    Back when my husband had it in December they were still doing PCR tests so his case is in the official numbers I guess. Mine in April was just at at home test so no one "officially" knows that I had it, it's not reported anywhere and I didn't call my doctor. I believe that only thing they are tracking here now is hospitalizations, and that has been steadily decreasing.

    Agreed, I've never heard of anywhere you could report home test results. My doctor's receptionist would lose her *kitten* if she had to handle that volume of calls.
    .

    Well, now you have.
    Compulsory in SA and encouraged to do so in QLD

    But it doesn't affect doctors receptionists - you fill out a form online and it goes directly to SA Heath ( or QLD health or whatever state)

    PCR tests are available to anyone here.

    I believe she was agreeing with me that she had never heard of anywhere for us to report it (we both live in the same area). I doubt SA Health would have much interest in our Covid cases. :smile:

    I was! I missed the word "here" after anywhere, which would have clarified my meaning.

    I'd assume our public health authority would be the ones to collect that if anyone did, since they are the oracle of all the other Covid and vaccination stats.
  • SModa61
    SModa61 Posts: 3,465 Member
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    Regarding a fourth shot, here are the factors that matter to me.

    - It will stimulate a short term flood of antibodies that peak in ~2 weeks. If I had an international trip or another occasion where I want extra protection, I would get the 4th shot a couple weeks before that. DH took our daughter to Europe and didn't want to be stuck abroad if he got sick, so he got the 4th shot before departing. I'm still waiting.
    - Studies indicate less incremental T/B-cell training (the long term protection) with more frequent successive shots of the same booster. So waiting a year between boosters (of the same formulation) stimulated better training than waiting 4 months.
    - mRNA makers have developed vaccines targeted specifically each of the major variants, but many factors contributed to not doing the translation from lab to clinic. It is a long and expensive process, and much depends on the FDA. AFAIK, from a public health messaging and confusion perspective, the FDA doesn't want new vaccines for every variant but if one were to emerge that was deadly and evaded the current vaccines, a new formulation could be worth the translational investment. If there were a new formulation approved, I would get that jab.

    My MD sister MOB got her 2nd booster two weeks before her daughter's wedding. She still got sick. Not as sick as me and DH (1 booster in December), but sicker than she counted on. Her comment was "not sure of the value of that booster". Mind you she is uber pro-vaccination and is medical doctor. I told her we were waiting for "something new", not more of the same jab (like you described above).
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,527 Member
    33gail33 wrote: »
    ythannah wrote: »
    33gail33 wrote: »
    SModa61 wrote: »
    @paperpudding I am very curious. I did reach out to my PCP to get our COVID illnesses into our medical record. All I was told is to take OTC meds and reach out if we got worse. Seemed to be no interest in noting the illness, but they could just not have told me that they were registering the reports.

    We don't have to report it here as far as I am aware (Canada). We can't even get a PCR test if we wanted one, and how would they ever enforce reporting a home test?

    Back when my husband had it in December they were still doing PCR tests so his case is in the official numbers I guess. Mine in April was just at at home test so no one "officially" knows that I had it, it's not reported anywhere and I didn't call my doctor. I believe that only thing they are tracking here now is hospitalizations, and that has been steadily decreasing.

    Agreed, I've never heard of anywhere you could report home test results. My doctor's receptionist would lose her *kitten* if she had to handle that volume of calls.
    .

    Well, now you have.
    Compulsory in SA and encouraged to do so in QLD

    But it doesn't affect doctors receptionists - you fill out a form online and it goes directly to SA Heath ( or QLD health or whatever state)

    PCR tests are available to anyone here.

    I believe she was agreeing with me that she had never heard of anywhere for us to report it (we both live in the same area). I doubt SA Health would have much interest in our Covid cases. :smile:

    Oh, ok - that makes more sense now.

  • SummerSkier
    SummerSkier Posts: 5,791 Member
    Saw Moderna might have an updated booster later this year. 🙏🙏
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,055 Member
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    Regarding a fourth shot, here are the factors that matter to me.

    - It will stimulate a short term flood of antibodies that peak in ~2 weeks. If I had an international trip or another occasion where I want extra protection, I would get the 4th shot a couple weeks before that. DH took our daughter to Europe and didn't want to be stuck abroad if he got sick, so he got the 4th shot before departing. I'm still waiting.
    - Studies indicate less incremental T/B-cell training (the long term protection) with more frequent successive shots of the same booster. So waiting a year between boosters (of the same formulation) stimulated better training than waiting 4 months.
    - mRNA makers have developed vaccines targeted specifically each of the major variants, but many factors contributed to not doing the translation from lab to clinic. It is a long and expensive process, and much depends on the FDA. AFAIK, from a public health messaging and confusion perspective, the FDA doesn't want new vaccines for every variant but if one were to emerge that was deadly and evaded the current vaccines, a new formulation could be worth the translational investment. If there were a new formulation approved, I would get that jab.
    Saw Moderna might have an updated booster later this year. 🙏🙏

    I'm a hermit and have no events where I'd want extra protection for the next few months so think I will wait for an updated booster.
  • SummerSkier
    SummerSkier Posts: 5,791 Member
    I am glad that for most folks these new variants spreading are not serious but more like the flu (which no one wants either!) but what is surprising to me is the changes in the CDC and other viewpoints. We have a weekly review at work and the # of cases the past 3 weeks would have put us in significant LOCKDOWN and masking if they had happened a year ago. Not as bad as the Dec/Jan original Omicron spikes but pretty durn close. So I guess it's all relative. I am sure the case load is understated in the county due to self testing.

    Meanwhile I keep hoping they will release the dual moderna vaccine booster soon... looks promising from recent reports I read yesterday.
  • DiscoveringLisa
    DiscoveringLisa Posts: 112 Member
    jenferbar wrote: »
    I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)

    I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,197 Member
    I have been able to avoid Covid for so long, but always knew it was a question of when and not if I would get it. I am vaccinated and boosted, but have been working a lot of hours. It's been spreading around work like wildfire, and I am a manager, so I noticed in call offs that there has been a lot in the past week or so.

    I had strong symptoms this morning and tested positive on a home test. Having type 1 diabetes doesn't seem to help, but being vaccinated does. Also I am fortunate that I was able to hold off until weaker strains. I called my insurance company's 24/7 nurse line and they suggested I go to the ER based on symptoms. I think they always make the most extreme suggestions. I'm going to urgent care for a proper test (need for work) and to get a more reasonable recommendation.

    There are treatments that can help keep you out of the hospital, but you need to take them early. Will the urgent care facility be able to give them to you? It may be why the nurse suggested the ER.
  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    I have seen a huge lack of concern of Covid being a thing anymore. Even I've slacked off from wearing a mask in the stores, or anywhere else. :( But it's still very much around. My nephew and his family travelled several states away, by car, to attend a family event. Out of 10 people, 7 experienced Covid symptoms or tested positive. And it's just such a strange phenomenon, out of the 4 people in his immediate family, all of them had some symptoms(obviously some worse than others) but as far as testing positive or negative throughout that period, it seemed very sporadic. No wonder there is still so much confusion 'out there'.

    Someone that my sister works with, brought her dd to work one day because her dd was sick and she had no one to care for her. I asked if she was tested and my sister said no, the mom said it was just a cold. Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't. :/ On one hand, I thought it irresponsible to bring a sick child to work where there are many people and some of them elderly. But OTOH, would testing be accurate anyways??

    I stopped wearing masks for the most part everywhere. Yes it's still a concern but people are tired.
  • DiscoveringLisa
    DiscoveringLisa Posts: 112 Member
    edited July 2022
    Kiwi2mfp wrote: »
    jenferbar wrote: »
    I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)

    I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.

    I also am not vaxed (well I am prior military...I have had tons of vaxs just not this one) and had covid last October when delta was going around. My whole neighborhood got it even though I stayed clear of all of them so they didn't get it from me. My double vaxed neighbor got it from his work for the second time. He retired after that. He got covid pneumonia. My triple vaxed neighbor got it from him (I believe for the second time also) and didn't seem to fair much better than I. My whole family had it over the span of a couple weeks. None of us were hospitalized and none of us vaxed. Covid wasn't easy, I won't lie. I do have some kidney issues going on that may or may not have to do with covid, but nothing major. The kidney issues could very well be from drinking coffee like a fish and not drinking enough water and all the NSAIDS I've taken in my life (fibromyalgiaand back issues). A friend of mine got the Vax and now has heart problems bad enough that she had open heart surgery a couple weeks ago. She didn't have heart issues before that. My son refuses the Vax because his 17 year old immunocompromised friend (long distance)got the Vax, ended up in ICU with an inflamed heart and he never heard from him again. My son was devastating. This was before myocarditis was well known so I know this wasn't made up. Nobody has any idea what was going on. The boys sister answered the phone last and told my son that the doctors are very concerned and it's not looking good. The was the last we heard from him and this was a good friend of his. I don't know what the answer is here....possible organ damage/death from covid or possible organ damage/death from the vax. I have a friend who told me as soon as the shots came out his radio scanner for emergencies was running to strokes and heart attacks left and right! But I've also heard of many people dying from covid that I know or someone I know knows. All I know is, we got covid once and were not hospitalized. I think this is a deeply peagree with the constant stream of vaccination for COVID either and plenty who refuse to be vaccinated themselves. It's ridiculous to just shrug your shoulders and say 'hearsay' ...
    Kiwi2mfp wrote: »
    jenferbar wrote: »
    I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)

    I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.

    I also am not vaxed (well I am prior military...I have had tons of vaxs just not this one) and had covid last October when delta was going around. My whole neighborhood got it even though I stayed clear of all of them so they didn't get it from me. My double vaxed neighbor got it from his work for the second time. He retired after that. He got covid pneumonia. My triple vaxed neighbor got it from him (I believe for the second time also) and didn't seem to fair much better than I. My whole family had it over the span of a couple weeks. None of us were hospitalized and none of us vaxed. Covid wasn't easy, I won't lie. I do have some kidney issues going on that may or may not have to do with covid, but nothing major. The kidney issues could very well be from drinking coffee like a fish and not drinking enough water and all the NSAIDS I've taken in my life (fibromyalgiaand back issues). A friend of mine got the Vax and now has heart problems bad enough that she had open heart surgery a couple weeks ago. She didn't have heart issues before that. My son refuses the Vax because his 17 year old immunocompromised friend (long distance)got the Vax, ended up in ICU with an inflamed heart and he never heard from him again. My son was devastating. This was before myocarditis was well known so I know this wasn't made up. Nobody has any idea what was going on. The boys sister answered the phone last and told my son that the doctors are very concerned and it's not looking good. The was the last we heard from him and this was a good friend of his. I don't know what the answer is here....possible organ damage/death from covid or possible organ damage/death from the vax. I have a friend who told me as soon as the shots came out his radio scanner for emergencies was running to strokes and heart attacks left and right! But I've also heard of many people dying from covid that I know or someone I know knows. All I know is, we got covid once and were not hospitalized. I think this is a deeply personal decision and
    Kiwi2mfp wrote: »
    jenferbar wrote: »
    I had my 2nd Moderna Booster over a month ago...and got sick with covid 2 weeks ago. Fairly sure i was exposed to it by a repairperson in our house, as it was in the 'weak' time after the booster. Slept for nearly 24 hours after getting sick. Then it was a matter of muscle pain, joint pain, headache, congestion, runny/stuffy nose, fevers, trouble breathing (especially when bent over), fatigue, lightheadedness, diarrhea, coughing...basically everything but loss of taste/smell. Took 4-5 days to feel human, 9 days to feel okay enough to work remotely, and 2 weeks to feel okay physically. (That was this weekend.) But I'm still dealing with coughing, and some fatigue. Will I take another booster if it is offered? Yes. And I hope I don't get sick again. Will be wearing a mask in public and stay out of indoor restaurants. (Trying to sell our house in a different state, and we're staying in a nearby hotel occasionally.)

    I haven't didn't suffer nearly as much or for as long and I'm completely unvaccinated. I only got COVID for the first time a month ago, it was bad for a couple of days and then I was fine. Everyone I know who has been jabbed suffered worse and has had more infections. I'm wondering why you would get another booster? There is a school of thought that this constant stream of boosters are doing more harm than good.

    I also am not vaxed (well I am prior military...I have had tons of vaxs just not this one) and had covid last October when delta was going around. My whole neighborhood got it even though I stayed clear of all of them so they didn't get it from me. My double vaxed neighbor got it from his work for the second time. He retired after that. He got covid pneumonia. My triple vaxed neighbor got it from him (I believe for the second time also) and didn't seem to fair much better than I. My whole family had it over the span of a couple weeks. None of us were hospitalized and none of us vaxed. Covid wasn't easy, I won't lie. I do have some kidney issues going on that may or may not have to do with covid, but nothing major. The kidney issues could very well be from drinking coffee like a fish and not drinking enough water and all the NSAIDS I've taken in my life (fibromyalgiaand back issues). A friend of mine got the Vax and now has heart problems bad enough that she had open heart surgery a couple weeks ago. She didn't have heart issues before that. My son refuses the Vax because his 17 year old immunocompromised friend (long distance)got the Vax, ended up in ICU with an inflamed heart and he never heard from him again. My son was devastating. This was before myocarditis was well known so I know this wasn't made up. Nobody has any idea what was going on. The boys sister answered the phone last and told my son that the doctors are very concerned and it's not looking good. The was the last we heard from him and this was a good friend of his. I don't know what the answer is here....possible organ damage/death from covid or possible organ damage/death from the vax. I have a friend who told me as soon as the shots came out his radio scanner for emergencies was running to strokes and heart attacks left and right! But I've also heard of many people dying from covid that I know or someone I know knows. All I know is, we got covid once and were not hospitalized. I think this is a deeply personal decision and we all need to stand by the consequences of whatever choice we make.

    So much hearsay... none of it science. :noway:

    In the UK, people are now being compensated for vaccine injuries/death. They don't compensate on the basis of hearsay or confirmation bias