Teacher Criticisms...(rant)

i just saw on another post the mention of teachers 'snivelling' for more money when they are not getting results. this kind of thing burns just burns me up.

i can't stand it when people who have never stuck a toe in the education field go on about how teachers are lazy, get paid for nothing in the summer, and are only babysitting anyways, so how hard can it really be?

then you have the people who want to run education like a business, and if you don't get the results, you don't get the pay. if education was a business, teachers could fire and hire the students based on their performance. but no. we don't get that option.

we teach *everyone*, no matter what. even if they only show up to school once a week. even if their parents cuss us out on the phone and tell us that *their* child is *our* problem when they are at school. even if a student consistently refuses to lift a finger because they just do not care. and we are still held accountable for a student's testing scores even if they were expelled from school for 150 days out of 180.

there are always going to be teachers who drop the ball and don't do their part, but the majority of us never give up on those students who have already given up on themselves. we keep hoping that one day they might open their book, write something down and learn something.

boo to people that criticize the general educator populace without ever having taught. if you haven't stood in front of a class of 20 to 30 students and taught, you really have no idea. :grumble:

THIS! I educate adults (in fitness) and even they whine and give up! Over half the adult US population is overweight and that directly affects their health in most cases. If people give up on one of the most important things in their life (health), why would you expect their children to have great discipline?
Yes there are some bad teachers, but all in all our direction in this country should be more money for education and less to programs like US Senator program. We'd save 450 billion a year on a program that hasn't done much to improve US government since 1964.
Don't bag on teachers. Children's education and discipline to learn starts at home.


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This is a difficult topic for me.

I'm the mother of a gifted child. Her giftedness, among other things, has caused her to struggle emotionally which interferes with her education. I don't condemn teachers. I know that my child is a behavioral nightmare. But at the same time, she is walking around with 135 IQ so if you don't find a way to put something in her head, then you are wasting one of the most brilliant minds you will ever get the opportunity to put your hands on.

What does that say about a teacher that would give up on her???

Have you had her take GATE? If not, then it's NOT the teacher's fault. And that teacher isn't giving up because it's a situation where a gifted child is among those not as gifted.


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I think we proved that formal schooling, in particular public schooling is not necessary. We are big advocates of parents taking responsibility for their kids' education.

:noway:

whoa, you have proved nothing! there were 49.4 million public school students and 60 million private school students enrolled in 2010. your experience with your own two children prove nothing in the face of these huge numbers and varied circumstance that each student might come from!

the only thing you have proved is that you seem to be a great parent who did what worked for your kids, and you were lucky that they didn't write you and your good intentions off with hormonal teenage angst. so kudos to you for that, but that's about the end of the line for that.

Why is that even a topic on a fitness forum??

Well said. I couldn't agree more! I currently teach in a private school, but have also worked in public. It doesn't matter what type of school it is, teaching is tough... and those who do it well, do it because we love our job and our students.

i just saw on another post the mention of teachers 'snivelling' for more money when they are not getting results. this kind of thing burns just burns me up.

i can't stand it when people who have never stuck a toe in the education field go on about how teachers are lazy, get paid for nothing in the summer, and are only babysitting anyways, so how hard can it really be?

then you have the people who want to run education like a business, and if you don't get the results, you don't get the pay. if education was a business, teachers could fire and hire the students based on their performance. but no. we don't get that option.

we teach *everyone*, no matter what. even if they only show up to school once a week. even if their parents cuss us out on the phone and tell us that *their* child is *our* problem when they are at school. even if a student consistently refuses to lift a finger because they just do not care. and we are still held accountable for a student's testing scores even if they were expelled from school for 150 days out of 180.

there are always going to be teachers who drop the ball and don't do their part, but the majority of us never give up on those students who have already given up on themselves. we keep hoping that one day they might open their book, write something down and learn something.

boo to people that criticize the general educator populace without ever having taught. if you haven't stood in front of a class of 20 to 30 students and taught, you really have no idea. :grumble:

THIS! I educate adults (in fitness) and even they whine and give up! Over half the adult US population is overweight and that directly affects their health in most cases. If people give up on one of the most important things in their life (health), why would you expect their children to have great discipline?
Yes there are some bad teachers, but all in all our direction in this country should be more money for education and less to programs like US Senator program. We'd save 450 billion a year on a program that hasn't done much to improve US government since 1964.
Don't bag on teachers. Children's education and discipline to learn starts at home.


A.C.E. Certified Personal Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

I fully agree that parents should be responsible for their kids' education. We homeschooled our kids even though we had the option of an upscale and supposedly good school system, which we thought sucked big time. It was run like a concentration camp. But I digress.

My son, as I have said prviously is 19 years old, has an Honors degree from our state university, and is presently in his first year of law school - youngest student ever admitted to that law school. My daughter is 16, has already earned (though not yet received) her Associates Degree and will be entering our state university as a junior next Fall. Both kids skipped grade school and high school, and both were homeschooled. I think we proved that formal schooling, in particular public schooling is not necessary. We are big advocates of parents taking responsibility for their kids' education.


In addition I have taught Latin for homeschoolers and had more than 20 kids. I was also an adjunct for a graduate professional school where I taught adults for 10 years. So I know what teaching is.

i just saw on another post the mention of teachers 'snivelling' for more money when they are not getting results. this kind of thing burns just burns me up.

i can't stand it when people who have never stuck a toe in the education field go on about how teachers are lazy, get paid for nothing in the summer, and are only babysitting anyways, so how hard can it really be?

then you have the people who want to run education like a business, and if you don't get the results, you don't get the pay. if education was a business, teachers could fire and hire the students based on their performance. but no. we don't get that option.

we teach *everyone*, no matter what. even if they only show up to school once a week. even if their parents cuss us out on the phone and tell us that *their* child is *our* problem when they are at school. even if a student consistently refuses to lift a finger because they just do not care. and we are still held accountable for a student's testing scores even if they were expelled from school for 150 days out of 180.

there are always going to be teachers who drop the ball and don't do their part, but the majority of us never give up on those students who have already given up on themselves. we keep hoping that one day they might open their book, write something down and learn something.

boo to people that criticize the general educator populace without ever having taught. if you haven't stood in front of a class of 20 to 30 students and taught, you really have no idea. :grumble:

There's no way I was going to read 19 pages worth of responses but I'd like to say BRAVO! Teachers work hard. My sister-in-law and her husband are both teachers and work just as hard as anyone else I know.

That being said... I think teachers unions need to be disbanded before they bancrupt the communities that are paying the teachers' salaries. That same sister-in-law and her husband? Both public school teachers with 4 children age 5 or younger living in a $500,000+ brand new house on 7 acres of land with 2 dogs, a cat, 3 cars between them and a refrigerator full of organic foods. My husband and I are not much younger and working comparable jobs (graphic artist and admin assistant) and are nowhere near being able to afford those types of luxuries. THAT is when you know that there's something wrong with the system. And it's not necessarily the teachers' faults that things have gotten that way.

Teachers should be paid in gold bullion and be allowed to retire at age 45. If it was left up to me, just based on my experience with homework with my ONE child, our nation's children would not only be uneducated but I would have murdered them all by the second day of school.

Thank god for teachers!!!