You Can Gain Muscle On A Calorie Deficit!!

You didn't gain any muscle. You just lowered your body fat. There is a big difference.

fitnesssocial, look at my arms in my Aug.-20011 pic. and then my May-2011 pic. My arms were larger in August than they were in May and they were also larger in May than they were in March despite dropping body weight. Like I said over and over that at my highest weight, my calves and forearms were very skinny, I didnt have any traps or fat covering them either and I could feel nothing but bone under my skin in my upper chest and on the outside of my arms were my bi's, tri's and delts meet. So even at my highest weight I didnt have any fat covering my calves,forearms, traps, upper chest or were my Bi's. Tri's and Delts meet.
Now - 74 lbs I have large traps,( they grew like weeds) larger calves and forearms ( they grew like molasses in winter) my Pecs are getting closer and closer to touching my colar bone and there is nothing but muscle were my Bi's, Tri's and Delts meet.

Minus any new gains, you may have you can't defy the human body. You need to be in a calorie surplus to build muscle. If you were taking anabolics you would still need to be in a surplus.

Well I would rather get fat again than take steriods. I cant tell in your pics but were your arms larger in the 2nd pic than they were in the first pic? Both my arms are over 1.5 inches larger than they were when I started working out.

My arms appeared to be larger, did I gain some muscle possibly. I don't have any diet logs at the time, but more than likely my protein intake was sky high. Coupled with me being fat, I was probably able to build some muscle. Does it compare to a true bulking cycle no.

So, what you're saying IS possible, if the right conditions are met.

1. Large protein intake.
2. You have to have a high body fat amount to create the large deficit.

First, I never claimed to get the same gains as the guys that I workout with that eat at a surplus every day. They have put on far more muscle than I have over the last year and I bust my butt just as hard as they do.
Second. Another 6-7lbs and I will be doing a bulk myself.
Third, I have eaten between 1-1.5 grams of protein for every lb. of body weight every day for the last year.

I was saying that it's possible, so I agree with you...

Hey I have no problem admitting when Im wrong, I was wrong about numerous things since I started.
But just because they increased their calorie intake they still got leaner!! So they were still on a deficit and gained muscle at the same time. Or are you saying you can lose fat while on a surplus?

No, those who built muscle weren't eating in a deficit. You obviously missed the quote from the story about the amazing Stacy.

That’s because it IS an absurd amount of food. This is what Staci does, day in, day out in order togain weightso that she can lift heavier weights.

And I think you’ll agree with me that despite all of this extra work to pack on a lot of weight, the last word you would use to describe Staci’s physique these days is “bulky.”

Did you actually read the link to her story?

Regardless of her metabolism Stacy gained 5lbs of muscle and got LEANER (lost fat) So regardless of if it was because of her metabolism or her rigorous workout program she was eating at a deficit and still gained muscle.

She was definitely not eating at a defecit. This is straight out of the page:

"On top of super heavy strength training, Staci had to eat between 3000-4000 calories per day (all healthy calories, mind you) to put on the extra weight. Had she not overloaded her system with calories, she wouldn’t have gained an ounce."

I wanted to start this thread because of the "" Muscle Does Not Weigh More Than Fat" thread. Reading thru it I read numerous posts that claimed that you cannot gain muscle while on a calorie deficit. Yes you can!! Please do not let these misguided comments stop you from implementing some type of lifting program while you are on your journey for a new body!! Weight training while dieting is very important because if you dont about 22% of your total weight loss will be Lean Muscle! Most people who do not lift while dieting are not happy with their body even after they reached or even surpassed their goals.

You also aren't going to gain 2 pounds of muscle in a month on a calorie deficit. You will keep more of your muscle mass but you aren't going to create much new muscle unless you are quite large BF% wise.