If it fits in my daily calories...

Hey, I don't see how pizza is unhealthy. We make ours homemade with turkey and lots of veggies and low fat mozzarella and either whole grain or wheat crust. It's a weekly weekend meal.

I don't consider pizza unhealthy, but a lot of people seem to think that while bread, tomato sauce, cheese, some vegetables and a meat might be ok, once you put them together and call it a pizza, it's demon-food. :laugh:

But for me, pizza is my cheap and lazy meal, and is typically a frozen rising crust DiGiorno or Frechetta (can't really beat $5 for two people, without a pile of dirty dishes) ... so not really a health-conscious choice. But my typical dinners are around 700-1000 calories anyway, so half a pizza fits in that range perfectly. The sodium is the only "bad" thing about it, and since I have good blood pressure, don't wig out over a pound or two weight fluctuation, drink about 96oz a day and sweat like a fiend when I exercise, sodium doesn't scare me.

Please point me to said 400 calorie double cheeseburger. Thanks

McDonalds Mcdouble ($1) no pickle, no bun....less than 400 cal. Even a qtr pounder w/ cheese no bun...they put it on a bed of lettuce. That's my twice a month indulgence!

Whats the point of a hamburger with no bun???

Is it technically a hamburger without the bun? A hamburger is a sandwich. A glob of cooked ground beef is not a hamburger.

I think it sets a bad example for those starting out. It is one thing to make that decision once you've gotten a hold of what you are doing with your weight loss. But for those who haven't found that happy medium, it gives them the wrong impression. Do what you need to do but I don't think it needs to be bragged about.

i could not disagree with you more. i'm like a lot of ppl on here - i've been on diets on and off for my whole life. none of them worked. i've NEVER had the kind of success that i have had here. and why? b/c i let myself have pizza. i no longer keep mac & cheese in the house, but i'll get it when i go out. i eat pudding and chocolate. i let myself have the things i love. i don't feel like i'm on a diet. i just know my calories and i know that i might have to go for a walk or a run to make something fit in.

i think that newbies learning lifestyle changes is the most important thing they CAN learn here. b/c then it's not like every other diet they've been on their whole lives. it's something sustainable.

Please point me to said 400 calorie double cheeseburger. Thanks

McDonalds Mcdouble ($1) no pickle, no bun....less than 400 cal. Even a qtr pounder w/ cheese no bun...they put it on a bed of lettuce. That's my twice a month indulgence!

Whats the point of a hamburger with no bun???

Is it technically a hamburger without the bun? A hamburger is a sandwich. A glob of cooked ground beef is not a hamburger.

^^^this. No bun = not a burger

Please point me to said 400 calorie double cheeseburger. Thanks

McDonalds Mcdouble ($1) no pickle, no bun....less than 400 cal. Even a qtr pounder w/ cheese no bun...they put it on a bed of lettuce. That's my twice a month indulgence!

Whats the point of a hamburger with no bun???

Is it technically a hamburger without the bun? A hamburger is a sandwich. A glob of cooked ground beef is not a hamburger.

And without mah pickle I just don't see the point :frown:

I don't know anyone who eats clean 100% of the time. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try to eat WELL MOST of the time.

The "omg dont judge otha pplz" comments are coming from people who don't/won't/can't eat healthier. Look at the post "can I eat Burger King for breakfast" - Literally everyone in that thread says "go for it!!".

Sadly, this is not a site for people who want to eat healthier, it's dominated by people who eat 1200 calories worth of junk food who still lose weight.

If you reach in front of me and try to take away the cupcake I ate last night, or the wine I have most nights, or the chocolate i refuse to give up, or the ice cream that I like to indulge in, or the chicken strips that I inevitabley have once a week, or my burger and fries Fridays I will rip off your arm and beat you with the bloody stump . . . I protect these things like family.

PS - I have been very successful.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I eat pretty healthily but not necessarily "Clean" or commendably --I eat what I want, within reason, which includes SKY HIGH carbs some days..loads of saturated fat other days (String cheese addiction)...or 1000+ calories of assorted snacks (popcorn, hummus and carrots, cottage cheese, etc)...usually all "healthy" but honestly I think DEPRIVATION is likely to cause more harm than good if excessively strict.

I agree, I think you start feeling less motivated.

Not sure why this bothers me but it every time I read someone posting something about how that 400 calorie Double Cheeseburger or Bucket of fried food fits into my daily calories, so I'm going to eat it!!. It is one thing if it's a special occasion but if this is a daily or weekly occurrence, you are only lying to yourself and making it that much harder to get to that goal you've been reaching for. Calories aren't the enemy, it is what those calories are made up with that count.

Well, if you feel that way then I have a very easy solution for you: Don't eat those things.

I don't know anyone who eats clean 100% of the time. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try to eat WELL MOST of the time.

The "omg dont judge otha pplz" comments are coming from people who don't/won't/can't eat healthier. Look at the post "can I eat Burger King for breakfast" - Literally everyone in that thread says "go for it!!".

Sadly, this is not a site for people who want to eat healthier, it's dominated by people who eat 1200 calories worth of junk food who still lose weight.

I agree 100%, it hurts me to see people eating 1200 kcal of junk food, and losing (sure they are on deficit after all)
I don't get how they refuse to understeand that the bigger your deficit the more you have to try to eat nutrient dense foods

but you can't help everybody
delete from friend list and move on...

I've been making it very hard to reach my goal apparently, by eating foods I enjoy so long as they fit in my calories.

You must hate me. I however, could care less what you do. Cheers! :drinker:

Exactly. I eat fast food once a week, and have still lost weight, and as of last night- another 3 inches which brings me to 25 pounds down and 16 inches gone. Works for me, and I refuse to to deprive myself of the things I love. I have been down that road before and failed miserably.

No where did I say I ate "clean" or that I drank diet coke wtf?. Maybe my idea of healthy and getting fit isn't the same as yours. If you're having a "cheat" day more days than you are not, its not a cheat day.. it's part of your diet. For me, a cheat meal is an exception to the rule, not the rule. I have found my balance. My point was a fast food cheeseburger isn't the best option to meet your caloric goals for the day! Now if you're used to eating Four Cheeseburgers and your cutting it down to two, then that is great and it's a step in the right direction.

my point is NOBODY IS PERFECT!! Get over it and keep it to yourself. I work and play hard and no longer have an unhealthy obsession with what I am or anybody else is eating. I get told almost daily to "go eat a cheeseburger" that's just as annoying trust me.. Cheeseburgers and Pizza are not sin incarnate. Diet Coke and other stuff that's calorie free is just as bad in some circles.

Oh look............ It's this again..............


I am not doing this for you. I am not doing this for approval. I am not doing this to be a role model. I am doing this for me. If I want a burger, I am gonna eat a burger. I would hope that me eating a cheeseburger does not cause YOU to stress. I eat fairly healthfully the majority of the time. But sometimes, I just want food that is considered "*kitten*" by some self righteous groups of people. There is no point in me being thin and miserable.


EDIT: I am down a total of 182 lbs now, even with the occasional cheeseburger, fries, and beer........

I don't know anyone who eats clean 100% of the time. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try to eat WELL MOST of the time.

The "omg dont judge otha pplz" comments are coming from people who don't/won't/can't eat healthier. Look at the post "can I eat Burger King for breakfast" - Literally everyone in that thread says "go for it!!".

Sadly, this is not a site for people who want to eat healthier, it's dominated by people who eat 1200 calories worth of junk food who still lose weight.

I eat double or triple the recommended fruits and veggies. I rarely eat out. I cook my own food, from scratch, with healthy ingredients 99.9% of the time. I meet or exceed recommended vitamins and minerals. I work out like crazy. I drink a ton of water and no soda. I'm vegetarian (and do it the healthy way).

Sometimes I have a slice of cheesecake or a fatty, unhealthy restaurant meal. It's none of your business when I do and it's none of any of our business what other people do.

I am still trying to figure out what is wrong with a cheeseburger?