Guys...do you wants bones or meat??
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In my opinion, if a guy is Insisting on a slim,or skinny woman, he may just be lacking in a certain department. Knowing that a woman with a little more meat will be much more to handle if you are "inadequate"
Just my opinion dont shoot me!0 -
All this talk about meat and bones is making me hungry. As long as it has sauce on it, that's all I care about. The spicyer, the better.
Also true for women! :-P As long as they're hot n saucy the man will stay!! X-D0 -
In my opinion, if a guy is Insisting on a slim,or skinny woman, he may just be lacking in a certain department. Knowing that a woman with a little more meat will be much more to handle if you are "inadequate"
Just my opinion dont shoot me!
LOL what did you base that thought on? Just curious0 -
When you feel comfortable in your own body you will be more attractive.
Confidence comes from comfort and confidence is sexy0 -
My wife is 5'4" and her best looking weight is around 120; however we are both active duty military and she has more muscle than what people in the us consider "average"
I thought women can't bulk unless on steroids or something!
(Lots of discussions on MFP that women can't bulk and if you say that you do tend to bulk as a woman then people are all over you).0 -
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I had a friend in college who spoke Spanish and used to say this in Spanish: Los huesos son para un perro, la carne es para un hombre
Translated: Bones are for a dog; Meat is for a man.
That must make naturally skinny women feel SO GOOD.
A lot of men don't like very skinny and very fat. That's the reality. Don't take it so personally all the time re the naturally skinny women.0 -
My wife is 5'4" and her best looking weight is around 120; however we are both active duty military and she has more muscle than what people in the us consider "average"
I thought women can't bulk unless on steroids or something!
(Lots of discussions on MFP that women can't bulk and if you say that you do tend to bulk as a woman then people are all over you).
Totally off topic, but are you serious????
Of course women can get muscle, though its not as easily gained as it can be for men, women have to work harder for it....I think when people refer to bulky, they mean serious hardcore beefcake muscle that men can get with hard work, due to their natural testosterone, and women usually need a little help to get
There is a big difference between a bulked up woman; http://yourbestyou90.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Isabell_sample2.jpg
And a muscular woman: http://www.muscleandstrength.com/sites/default/files/images/2009/articles/05may/woman-abs.jpg0 -
I'm not attracted to bones or too much meat, But I do love curves and women who care about their appearence.0
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eye of the beholder, but honestly to me it should be what you think about yourself and how you feel. Not what others say or think. Trying to make everyone else happy on how they see you is going to be the never ending chore. Make yourself happy first and only your opinion counts.. so the answer is within you.. No one else can answer this question correct cause its based on what you think is best for you. For me its lean and muscle but that is what I want and makes me happy. What makes me happy may not make you happy. So the real question I ask you is, what would make you happy when you look in the mirror and see yourself? when you can answer that, then you will have your answer.0
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Im a fuller figure kinda guy. Thats just me. Do what makes you happy I say.0
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Who cares what guys like more?!? Just be happy with yourself!0
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My wife is 5'4" and her best looking weight is around 120; however we are both active duty military and she has more muscle than what people in the us consider "average"
I thought women can't bulk unless on steroids or something!
(Lots of discussions on MFP that women can't bulk and if you say that you do tend to bulk as a woman then people are all over you).
Totally off topic, but are you serious????
Of course women can get muscle, though its not as easily gained as it can be for men, women have to work harder for it....I think when people refer to bulky, they mean serious hardcore beefcake muscle that men can get with hard work, due to their natural testosterone, and women usually need a little help to get
There is a big difference between a bulked up woman; http://yourbestyou90.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Isabell_sample2.jpg
And a muscular woman: http://www.muscleandstrength.com/sites/default/files/images/2009/articles/05may/woman-abs.jpg
I'm serious with the question. I think women can bulk. Obviously not to the degree as men.
Didn't know there are two different terms - bulked up and muscular.0 -
Women CAN bulk. But it takes a lot of calories (and then it's 1lb per month of muscle gain) Or they can take steroids. Women on a diet (like most women on this site) will not gain significant muscle mass. The above military woman mentioned was said to have more muscle "than average" (the average woman does NOT have a lot of muscle). He didn't say she looked like Arnold. I have more muscle "than average. I have "bulked" on purpose by eating 3000 calories a day and doing a hypertrophy lifting routine. I gained 10lbs, 4-5 of that was muscle.0
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I'm not a guy but I love short ribs. You get some bones and a lot of meat
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I'm serious with the question. I think women can bulk. Obviously not to the degree as men.
Didn't know there are two different terms - bulked up and muscular.
Here:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/511229--bulky-vs-muscular-the-real-definition0 -
I'm not a guy but I love short ribs. You get some bones and a lot of meat
^^too funny!!
I thought this thread was going to be about steak... i must be hungry0 -
I'm serious with the question. I think women can bulk. Obviously not to the degree as men.
Didn't know there are two different terms - bulked up and muscular.
Here:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/511229--bulky-vs-muscular-the-real-definition
Thanks0 -
Try not to focus on what a guy wants, it will only lead you to be depressed and have problems with your self image. You can find someone great who will love you no matter what size you are. If some guy says that you have to be a certain size or weight, get rid of him, he is not worth it0
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It's all about self confidence. You can be super skinny or really fit. But if YOU don't believe, actually believe your pretty, then it doesn't matter. Guys love a woman with great self esteem, not cocky, but someone who KNOWS they look good. Whether you be tall or short, or skinny or thick, if you believe you are beautiful, everyone around you will see that.0
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Men for the most part love CONFIDENCE! If you feel amazing and a man can tell, That is sexy. Whatever you envisioned for your body when you came on here, go for it, whether its what you think men will like or not. If you try to please all men, I'm sorry but you never will. The most important thing is that you love yourself, no matter what size. Cause its very hard for a man to love you when you dont love yourself. And trust me a girl who carries herself with confidence is better than any girl with any body type who complains about the way she looks all the time.0
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When I lost weight years ago, I found out my husband liked me as a size 8 but when I got to a size 3 or 5 he didnt like it at all. Every guy is different tho. Keep in mind what you will have to do for maintenance also. If you get to a size 3 you may have to do a lot of cardio and keep calories low compared to a few sizes bigger. Just a thought....0
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Husband has always said that what makes a woman attractive is when 1) she is confident and 2) she has good posture. Personally (I am a tad shorter than you), I think around 130 pounds is about right. When I was a teenager, 115-120 was good for my height... now that I am older, anything much smaller than 130 seems like it would just be too much (and I'm only 27). I would say that no matter what, the key is to be tone. If you are tone, the size won't matter near as much because there won't be as much "giggly." :-)0
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I like this thread. So many guys are voting for confidence over body...I think I was brainwashed to think men only cared about sex and hot bodies : /
And the whole "you should be confident" thing...sure, but let's assume you are wearing your big girl panties today and you already thought about this. In fact, let's assume you ARE confident. From what the men have said so far, it's a lean physique - not overfat and not under-muscular (did I really just make up a word?). I guess you should figure out how to reduce your body fat percentage!
I know a couple of guys, though, that prefer skinnier women. Like, they actually prefer too little muscle tone. Your guess is as good as mine. I don't mind skinny-bony guys but I don't have much of a preference, actually. It's more like, "Is he funny? Is he a gentleman? Is he considerate and sensitive? Cool. I'll take him."0 -
Most men that I talk to like curves way better than skinny. Except for guys in Utah (the flatter and skinnier the better). But overall, I like guys that are bigger (not super fit) have to have some softness. Becuse if they are skinnier than me I feel like I'm going to crush them, and if they are more fit than me I feel insecure. lol0
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iSNT IT MORE IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO LOVE YOURSELF THAN ANY OTHER PERSON TO 'FANCY YOU' ?
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I like this thread. So many guys are voting for confidence over body...I think I was brainwashed to think men only cared about sex and hot bodies : /
And the whole "you should be confident" thing...sure, but let's assume you are wearing your big girl panties today and you already thought about this. In fact, let's assume you ARE confident. From what the men have said so far, it's a lean physique - not overfat and not under-muscular (did I really just make up a word?). I guess you should figure out how to reduce your body fat percentage!
I know a couple of guys, though, that prefer skinnier women. Like, they actually prefer too little muscle tone. Your guess is as good as mine. I don't mind skinny-bony guys but I don't have much of a preference, actually. It's more like, "Is he funny? Is he a gentleman? Is he considerate and sensitive? Cool. I'll take him."
If all men preferred a specific and particular look, then only women who looked like that would be in relationships and the rest of us would be virgin spinsters or have to become lesbians.
Since my friends and family of all sizes, shapes and levels of fitness have managed to find love with men, I assume that men have varied tastes. And even the ones who think they're attracted to a specific look sometimes fall in love with women who don't fit that ideal and they love the body that woman has.0 -
I like this thread. So many guys are voting for confidence over body...I think I was brainwashed to think men only cared about sex and hot bodies : /
And the whole "you should be confident" thing...sure, but let's assume you are wearing your big girl panties today and you already thought about this. In fact, let's assume you ARE confident. From what the men have said so far, it's a lean physique - not overfat and not under-muscular (did I really just make up a word?). I guess you should figure out how to reduce your body fat percentage!
I know a couple of guys, though, that prefer skinnier women. Like, they actually prefer too little muscle tone. Your guess is as good as mine. I don't mind skinny-bony guys but I don't have much of a preference, actually. It's more like, "Is he funny? Is he a gentleman? Is he considerate and sensitive? Cool. I'll take him."
That's cuz confidence is sexy .. see were still thinking of sex. It's unbelievable the difference it makes though. First of all if a woman is happy with who they are that shows through. If she has love for who she is spiritually that glows. You know you will never be perfect, that's ok then you can always get better. A healhy mind and spirit will attract others that are also healthy.
Remember, you can still be happy with who you are and still want to improve.0 -
Women CAN bulk. But it takes a lot of calories (and then it's 1lb per month of muscle gain) Or they can take steroids. Women on a diet (like most women on this site) will not gain significant muscle mass. The above military woman mentioned was said to have more muscle "than average" (the average woman does NOT have a lot of muscle). He didn't say she looked like Arnold. I have more muscle "than average. I have "bulked" on purpose by eating 3000 calories a day and doing a hypertrophy lifting routine. I gained 10lbs, 4-5 of that was muscle.
True enough and the type of bulk or the degree, is not like the women you see using steroids. Hormones is the key to adding serious mass of any kinc. Most men have capabilities to put on mass because they have the hormones to do so. Women do not have the same hormonal profile so they tend not to gain muscle very easily but that does not mean they can't.
Most women who want to stay quite lean will not gaing much mass at all, enough to get a toned look which is what most women would want.0
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