Freakin Deadlifts

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  • nursenessa1
    nursenessa1 Posts: 182 Member
    I also have back issues (herniated a disc lifting a piano about 9 years ago and then reinjured it about two years ago) so I was very tentative starting out. I've been very cognizant of my form and so far haven't had any back issues at all.

    You have a known herniated disk and you are doing dead lifts? :huh:
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    I have my own workout but follow 5x5 system for Bench/Deadlifts/Squats and overhead presses. Like Cris i try to add 5lbs per workout. If i stall that week, i'll deload (usually is 20% of failed weight) and ramp back up. As well i do 2-3 warm-up sets depending on how i feel before working sets.

    I really like the 5x5 setup...but it eventually got to a point where I wasn't seeing gains anymore. When I was doing it though, I wasn't deadlifting, or squatting. Instead I did squat presses for legs, and back extensions for my lower back. When I did stall to a point where deloading didn't really help, I started an 8x3 modification for a bit with deloaded weight. In just a few weeks I was getting where I could lift what I used to lift 5x5, on the 8x3 (gains again!)...but before I got the chance to switch back to 5x5, I changed my whole workout. I was originally doing a full 5 or so exercises (full body) 3x a week.

    Now...my workout is MUCH more simple.

    Workout A (Monday)
    Deadlift
    Weighted Chin Ups

    Workout B (Wednesday)
    Bench Press (I'm using hammer strength machines due to my shoulder injury)
    Weighted Dips

    Workout C (Friday)
    Squats
    Weighted Calf Raises

    I may be working barbell rows in there somewhere here in the near future.
  • ChrisGoldn
    ChrisGoldn Posts: 473 Member
    i havent failed 2 deloads in a row to successfully say on those 4 lifts that 5x5 system has reached its maximum potential... However i do suspect i'm close to that point where i will have to make a change.
  • ChrisGoldn
    ChrisGoldn Posts: 473 Member
    Just completed my work sets

    262.5 x 5
    297.5 x 3
    332.5 x 3

    New 3RM. Woohoo!

    Good Work!
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    Just completed my work sets

    262.5 x 5
    297.5 x 3
    332.5 x 3

    New 3RM. Woohoo!

    Missed this post...that's awesome man!
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    Thanks deadliftin homies. I was hoping to make 5 on that last set, but I guess I was a bit weak today. Next week is planned deload week, but I might try to test my true 1RM's next week. I have never done that yet.
  • RunningDirty
    RunningDirty Posts: 293
    Just completed my work sets

    262.5 x 5
    297.5 x 3
    332.5 x 3

    New 3RM. Woohoo!

    Fantastic! This thread is quickly becoming my fave. I love seeing people improve on their numbers: motivating!
  • Deadlifts = EPIC gains.. love them!!
  • BarbACona
    BarbACona Posts: 76
    Totally unrelated to the deadlift conversation, I noticed your profile pic and I was a fan of the show also, kinda' miss them all and the confusion they presented to me!
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    Just completed my work sets

    262.5 x 5
    297.5 x 3
    332.5 x 3

    New 3RM. Woohoo!

    Missed this post...that's awesome man!

    Agree! Nice work!!
  • JNick77
    JNick77 Posts: 3,783 Member
    Today's lower body max effort day was deadlifts and I pulled a personal best of 385lbs. It went up fairly crisp too and I figured it best to leave it at that for the day. In six weeks I'm going to shoot for 400, can't wait. Ever since I started Westside my back and legs have never felt stronger. I put 30lbs on my DL in basically four-weeks.
  • Determinednoob
    Determinednoob Posts: 2,001 Member
    i havent failed 2 deloads in a row to successfully say on those 4 lifts that 5x5 system has reached its maximum potential... However i do suspect i'm close to that point where i will have to make a change.

    Don't forget microloading for however long that may help.
  • sjohnny
    sjohnny Posts: 56,142 Member
    I also have back issues (herniated a disc lifting a piano about 9 years ago and then reinjured it about two years ago) so I was very tentative starting out. I've been very cognizant of my form and so far haven't had any back issues at all.

    You have a known herniated disk and you are doing dead lifts? :huh:

    Yes. And it bothers me less and less the more I do them.
  • RunningDirty
    RunningDirty Posts: 293
    <<<<Deadlift day! :bigsmile:

    Today we used 1 set of chains for resistance training (clean grip) and it was a unique challenge to say the least. :wink:

    http://breakingmuscle.com/strength-training/deadlifting-chains-why-science-says-chains-work

    135 x 5
    135 x 5
    125 x 4
    125 x 4
    125 x 4
    115 x 3

    175 x 1 with mixed grip (no chains). I'm going to go take a nap now. :yawn:
  • iWaffle
    iWaffle Posts: 2,208 Member
    You guys are making me look bad. Last night I did:

    10 @145 (warm up)
    5 x 8 @ 225

    I suppose I need to add more weight but I'm still babying this tender rib on the left side.

    Are you guys using straps because my grip gets pretty tired on the 5th set of 8 reps with just 225 lbs.
  • JNick77
    JNick77 Posts: 3,783 Member
    <<<<Deadlift day! :bigsmile:

    Today we used 1 set of chains for resistance training (clean grip) and it was a unique challenge to say the least. :wink:

    http://breakingmuscle.com/strength-training/deadlifting-chains-why-science-says-chains-work

    135 x 5
    135 x 5
    125 x 4
    125 x 4
    125 x 4
    115 x 3

    175 x 1 with mixed grip (no chains). I'm going to go take a nap now. :yawn:

    Very jealous that you have chains at your gym! Do you ever use bands too? Good stuff!!
    You guys are making me look bad. Last night I did:

    10 @145 (warm up)
    5 x 8 @ 225

    I suppose I need to add more weight but I'm still babying this tender rib on the left side.

    Are you guys using straps because my grip gets pretty tired on the 5th set of 8 reps with just 225 lbs

    Hey nice job, we all have to start somewhere right? After my back injury I started DL'ing again with 205lbs I believe, not much weight at all.

    Nah, I've not needed straps for any reason and I think if my grip really became an issue I would just do some grip strength work before I resorted to straps. That's just my preference though, no gloves, no straps. If I could remember I would get liquid chalk.
  • RunningDirty
    RunningDirty Posts: 293

    Very jealous that you have chains at your gym! Do you ever use bands too? Good stuff!!

    I've seen and YouTubed the band situation!

    Like this dude:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY3y7K3NNxs

    We have them, but haven't used them and I never know what we're doing until class starts and it's on the board. I don't know if it's the music or the dude in that video (maybe both combined!!!), but I'm now a little scared of the bands. :laugh:
  • ilovedeadlifts
    ilovedeadlifts Posts: 2,923 Member

    I've seen and YouTubed the band situation!

    Like this dude:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY3y7K3NNxs

    We have them, but haven't used them and I never know what we're doing until class starts and it's on the board. I don't know if it's the music or the dude in that video (maybe both combined!!!), but I'm now a little scared of the bands. :laugh:

    Bands and chains are great but you have to understand how to use them in your programming.
    I'd definitely exhaust any linear gains before worrying about accommodating resistance.
  • FoxyMcDeadlift
    FoxyMcDeadlift Posts: 771 Member
    not really a fan to be honest
  • RunningDirty
    RunningDirty Posts: 293
    Everyone has their preferences, especially people who have been doing this for a long time.

    I'm new and learning a little bit of everything right now and like changing it up to see how I improve (or fail). I trust my instructor. StrongLifts on my own for a while was a great starting point, but I hit a wall with it eventually so this is much better for me.

    Potato: Potata! :)
  • JNick77
    JNick77 Posts: 3,783 Member

    Very jealous that you have chains at your gym! Do you ever use bands too? Good stuff!!

    I've seen and YouTubed the band situation!

    Like this dude:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY3y7K3NNxs

    We have them, but haven't used them and I never know what we're doing until class starts and it's on the board. I don't know if it's the music or the dude in that video (maybe both combined!!!), but I'm now a little scared of the bands. :laugh:

    Bands are good but more commonly used in Dynamic/Speed work or if you're working on a sticking point. It's a good way to build resistance near the lockout or coming out of the hole. You can also use it to release some of the resistance and overload the lift a little bit.

    I think the fact that you have a power lifting trainer watching your progress and adjusting your work based on what he sees is so awesome.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    You guys are making me look bad. Last night I did:

    10 @145 (warm up)
    5 x 8 @ 225

    I suppose I need to add more weight but I'm still babying this tender rib on the left side.

    Are you guys using straps because my grip gets pretty tired on the 5th set of 8 reps with just 225 lbs.

    5 sets of 8 reps is a lot lol, my grip would be wiped by then for sure man. By comparison, you lifted 9000lbs on your working sets, PLUS a warmup of 1450lbs. I lifted 6860lbs TOTAL, including my warmup.

    No surprise your grip is wiped!!

    But to answer your question, no on the straps. I've read that they are basically a crutch, and not a good thing to come to rely on.

    Then again, I've also read that bacon gives you cancer...so who the hell knows?
  • iWaffle
    iWaffle Posts: 2,208 Member
    By comparison, you lifted 9000lbs on your working sets, PLUS a warmup of 1450lbs
    Well when you put it that way it does sound like a lot of work. I know that it made me sweat a lot more than the treadmill ever does. I was denied a hug when I got home. (The sweatier I am the more effort I put into giving the wife a hug. :laugh: )
  • trojanbb
    trojanbb Posts: 1,297 Member
    You guys are making me look bad. Last night I did:

    10 @145 (warm up)
    5 x 8 @ 225

    I suppose I need to add more weight but I'm still babying this tender rib on the left side.

    Are you guys using straps because my grip gets pretty tired on the 5th set of 8 reps with just 225 lbs.

    5 sets of 8 reps is a lot lol, my grip would be wiped by then for sure man. By comparison, you lifted 9000lbs on your working sets, PLUS a warmup of 1450lbs. I lifted 6860lbs TOTAL, including my warmup.

    No surprise your grip is wiped!!

    But to answer your question, no on the straps. I've read that they are basically a crutch, and not a good thing to come to rely on.

    Then again, I've also read that bacon gives you cancer...so who the hell knows?

    There is nothing wrong with straps unless you do PL competitions. Most BB'ers use straps on all heavy pulling lifts.

    I train forearms and grip separately, absolutely no reason to let grip get in the way of my pulling PR's.
  • LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo
    LaMujerMasBonitaDelMundo Posts: 3,634 Member
    I think I'm the weakest person here, so far I have just progressed at 35 kgs or 70+lbs. up from 30kgs. or about 65-68 lbs. doing it for 6 reps.

    I have been deadlifting for almost a year now & I hope to reach the 100 lb. mark soon.
  • tobnrn
    tobnrn Posts: 477 Member
    Freakin love deadlifts. 2nd week doing them busted out 135lbs 5x5 with perfect form.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    Freakin love deadlifts. 2nd week doing them busted out 135lbs 5x5 with perfect form.

    I was there, it was awesome.

    But make sure you tell the full story Lori!...you didn't think you could do it!

    :)
  • iWaffle
    iWaffle Posts: 2,208 Member
    Freakin love deadlifts. 2nd week doing them busted out 135lbs 5x5 with perfect form.

    Sweet! If you can lift the bar and a full plate you're getting serious respect from everyone in the gym.
  • sjohnny
    sjohnny Posts: 56,142 Member
    I think I'm the weakest person here, so far I have just progressed at 35 kgs or 70+lbs. up from 30kgs. or about 65-68 lbs. doing it for 6 reps.

    I have been deadlifting for almost a year now & I hope to reach the 100 lb. mark soon.

    Nothing wrong with that. You gotta start somewhere.
  • Determinednoob
    Determinednoob Posts: 2,001 Member
    Most 5x5 type strength routines I have seen only have you do 1 work set of deadlifts