Dismayed overhearing comments............
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I've read a fair few of these comments (admittedly not all) - but I'll throw my two cents in for what it's worth.
I think personally for me, half of the problem ISN'T the fact people are going on holiday or eating what they ordinarily wouldn't in terms of your general everyday diet. The problem is the massive quantities and the way that cruises (and all inclusive holidays) are designed in terms of eating. People also sometimes interpret 'all you can eat' (same with buffet restaurants) as a challenge - it's not about how much you want to eat, but a challenge as to how much can you eat?
In a family environment when you're on holiday with your kids I think it is parental responsibility to encourage healthy attitudes towards food choice and also the amount consumed by their kids. What kid wouldn't opt for burger and fries whenever possible - it doesn't mean that it's ok for parents to say 'yes'.
Two weeks out of 52 is not necessarily going to derail someone who is determined to get healthy. This is part of the reason I can't stand cruises... I prefer to go to the country/ies of my choosing and experience that culture for myself - and not be told when, where or how much to eat. In that sense by being on a cruise you are part of a captive audience.0 -
^^ TOTALLY THIS....
People come here to lose weight and be healthy, and when people make negative comments about behaviors that will cause them to gain weight and become unhealthy, that is somehow evil and wrong? I am confused. That seems to be more supportive than "It's ok, go ahead and eat 6000 calories in a day, you've earned it" which is exactly the sort of attitude that caused most people to become overweight to begin with. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem, and trying to dress it up as capslock-laden righteous indignation doesn't change anything. I wouldn't tell an alcoholic that it's ok to drink as much as they want because they are on vacation, regardless of how well they've done recently. I don't see how telling people with weight problems that it's ok to eat whatever they want is acceptable... just because you feel defense does not give you the right to sabotage others.oh my ****
I am incredibly disappointed with the majority of people who have commented on this post (NOT ALL!!)
THIS IS A WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CHANGE FOR THE BETTER, AND LOSE WEIGHT AND BE HEALTHY
THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COME FOR HELP, SUPPORT AND NOT TO BE JUDGED
AND HERE HALF OF YOU ARE, STANDING AROUND ON CRUISES, PROBABLY IN MALLS AND MOVIE THEATERS,
JUDGING HEAVY PEOPLE FOR SAYING THEY ARE TAKING A WEEK OFF THEIR DIET BECAUSE THEY ARE ON VACATION
THEY ARE ALLOWED!
YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEY ARNT ON A DIET BACK HOME, AND THAT THEY HAVNT LOST 100 POUNDS
I AM HEAVY, I HAVE LOST 21 POUNDS, I STILL HAVE A CHEAT DAY AND SAY "I AM GOING TO ENJOY THIS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN DOING SO GOOD"
SO STOP FREAKIN JUDGING PEOPLE AND GROW UP
YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEY ARNT TRYING AND FOR YOU TO SIT HERE ON A WEBSITE LIKE THIS
AND BASH THOSE PEOPLE IS DISGUSTING.
Totally agree!0 -
oh my ****
I am incredibly disappointed with the majority of people who have commented on this post (NOT ALL!!)
THIS IS A WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CHANGE FOR THE BETTER, AND LOSE WEIGHT AND BE HEALTHY
THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COME FOR HELP, SUPPORT AND NOT TO BE JUDGED
AND HERE HALF OF YOU ARE, STANDING AROUND ON CRUISES, PROBABLY IN MALLS AND MOVIE THEATERS,
JUDGING HEAVY PEOPLE FOR SAYING THEY ARE TAKING A WEEK OFF THEIR DIET BECAUSE THEY ARE ON VACATION
THEY ARE ALLOWED!
YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEY ARNT ON A DIET BACK HOME, AND THAT THEY HAVNT LOST 100 POUNDS
I AM HEAVY, I HAVE LOST 21 POUNDS, I STILL HAVE A CHEAT DAY AND SAY "I AM GOING TO ENJOY THIS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN DOING SO GOOD"
SO STOP FREAKIN JUDGING PEOPLE AND GROW UP
YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEY ARNT TRYING AND FOR YOU TO SIT HERE ON A WEBSITE LIKE THIS
AND BASH THOSE PEOPLE IS DISGUSTING.
Wow, you got a couple of things going on here! First you are judging the OPs motives and then saying don't judge. Exactly how does that work?? Judging is ok as long as you are the only one doing it?
Second, I beleive you misread the OPs motives. When I read his post, and knowing him a little, I saw concern not judgement. Ninerbuff is generally a guy who wants the best for others and giives freely of his time to be helpful to others. So, not only did you judge him but I believe you misjudged him.
Third, you seem to be reacting personally to something that was not personally directed at you. Is that the Ops issue or is that the yours?0 -
oh my ****
I am incredibly disappointed with the majority of people who have commented on this post (NOT ALL!!)
THIS IS A WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CHANGE FOR THE BETTER, AND LOSE WEIGHT AND BE HEALTHY
THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COME FOR HELP, SUPPORT AND NOT TO BE JUDGED
AND HERE HALF OF YOU ARE, STANDING AROUND ON CRUISES, PROBABLY IN MALLS AND MOVIE THEATERS,
JUDGING HEAVY PEOPLE FOR SAYING THEY ARE TAKING A WEEK OFF THEIR DIET BECAUSE THEY ARE ON VACATION
THEY ARE ALLOWED!
YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEY ARNT ON A DIET BACK HOME, AND THAT THEY HAVNT LOST 100 POUNDS
I AM HEAVY, I HAVE LOST 21 POUNDS, I STILL HAVE A CHEAT DAY AND SAY "I AM GOING TO ENJOY THIS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN DOING SO GOOD"
SO STOP FREAKIN JUDGING PEOPLE AND GROW UP
YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEY ARNT TRYING AND FOR YOU TO SIT HERE ON A WEBSITE LIKE THIS
AND BASH THOSE PEOPLE IS DISGUSTING.
Wow, you got a couple of things going on here! First you are judging the OPs motives and then saying don't judge. Exactly how does that work?? Judging is ok as long as you are the only one doing it?
Second, I beleive you misread the OPs motives. When I read his post, and knowing him a little, I saw concern not judgement. Ninerbuff is generally a guy who wants the best for others and giives freely of his time to be helpful to others. So, not only did you judge him but I believe you misjudged him.
Third, you seem to be reacting personally to something that was not personally directed at you. Is that the Ops issue or is that the yours?
I laughed when I read your response and it brought back to my memory a statement by a preacher, "If you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that barks is the one that got hit." The only problem here is that no rocks were thrown, there was anticipation that one "might" have been, could have been or probably will be thrown in the near future.0 -
Out of interest, on a cruise is the food included in the price? If so could see peoples motivation wanting to get maximum value out ticket price.
oh yes food IS included! I've done 5 cruises and the first time you just want to eat all the time lol...but after piling on about 7lbs that particular time was a learning curve so now when we go away we really do watch what we eat (but still enjoy alot of food) and we always take the stairs and make sure we do loads of laps round the ship - this time I put on 3lbs and that was in two weeks which although I wasn't pleased about, it wasn't really too bad and I'm working hard now to shift it
The way we look at it is, we have paid for it so we might as well enjoy ourselves and then we get back to being healthier when we get home.0 -
i have never gained 10 pounds on a vacation in my life. And when i have a treat day or somehting, i have a small amount of a food i enjoy like one serving of it, mainly because i am concerned that i will loss my progress. I am just saying that those people that eat copious amounts of food on their vacation, yes they are in the wrong because its so unhealthy etc, but i just dont think its right to sit around and judge them because you know better now. thats all im saying0
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I laughed when I read your response and it brought back to my memory a statement by a preacher, "If you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that barks is the one that got hit."
Love it! I am totally stealing that line. I will credit you if we are present but claim it as my own if you are not! LOL (just kidding on the claiming it)0 -
It's not my fault, I was born missing the gene that allows me to believe people's bull****... It's like that "metabolism" thing, only instead of making me fat, it makes me a jerk. IT'S NOT MY FAULT IT'S MY GENES!!! I AM A VICTIM, PITY ME!!!
That "I lost a ton of weight so now I can reward myself by going back to being a glutton" attitude is why so many people have trouble regaining lost weight. That's like a drunk saying "I've been clean for 3 weeks, time to get ****faced!" and someone telling us not to judge them because they used to drink every day!
So watching someone gorge down a whole pizza after losing 100lbs should be okay? Sorry, but I guess we think differently about rewarding vacations.Consider the possibility a 300-pound person standing in line may have once weighed 400 pounds and was going on a cruise to celebrate a 100-pound loss.
Not so crazy now, is it?!
:huh: :bigsmile:
Exactly what I was thinking. You don't know what kind of "journey" they were on. And we're all on THIS site for a purpose...would've thought judgment would be minimal.
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Wtf people... Let me introduce you to this crazy concept called responsibility, and its twin accountability. Their cousin reality also called, and wants to meet you.
Aw, c'mon now whacky! That is so un-PC of you!! Don'tcha know we are all victims??
:PPPPPPPPP
ROFLMAO!!0 -
I feel so sad for that 12ish year old boy
One of my main reasons for this life change was so I could do all the things I wanted with my two little girls. As haveing a very Large mom myself she missed out on doing a ton of things with me growing up and currently missing out on things now with her grandkids. We all went to a local theme park a few weeks ago and they have double seats on the swing ride my girls each wanted to ride with grandma and well my poor little 38pound 7year old and 33pound 5year old could not fit in the double seat next to grandma (grandma also saddly could not pull the bar down all the way in the single seat ) it was heart breaking my mom had to get off the ride infront of everyone and I had to cut threw the line watching to get on with my daughter as she was to small to ride alone.
When on vacation now and I`ve gone on 3 different ones since starting this change (planning to go on another this August 20th) I set my cals to maintain and workout at the hotel early in the morning so that I have a few extra cals for those enjoyment items while away on vacation. The last trip my hubby and I took I actualy came home a pound less and still enjoyed good food. 0 -
I always go on All Inclusive holidays, it's a good way of budgetting for my family, but I have never just piled my plate up high.
Yes, I do eat what I want, but that doesn't have to mean a gluttonous plate full of everything on the table, there is enough choice to make healthy but delicious choices,
I think breakfast is the one meal I spurge on, I love omelette or scrambled eggs.
Lunch is usually fish and salad, and then evening I have meat and veg from the grill.
Despite the extra alcohol I consume, I don't usually gain on holiday due to the extra swimming, activities, walking, runing around with the kids that goes on.
My family often sit there mouths wide open when we see some of the plates coming back, and it's usually the same people meal after meal, day after day.
So no Niner, you aren't the only person who is shocked by the observations.0 -
totally agreed! It's so sad that some ppl just don't get it or at least don't WANT to get it!0
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Your signature says you have been in fitness for 28 years so I peaked at your profile and you are 48. I'm gathering that you have never been overweight. You have no idea what lead people to where they are. I can't imagine that you are even a decent trainer with that nasty hateful attitude. Obesity is frequently learned from childhood, a symptom of mental health issues, and can stem from medical issues that YOU my not associate with weight gain. I can GUARANTY that myself and a huge body of research says that YOUR diet is toxic and cancer promoting...GET OVER YOURSELF!0
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When you point a finger you have three pointing back at you. If you are out on a cruise or dinner or the store mind your own business.
My aunt used to tell me this ALL the time as a kid.
I think the judgemental tone of the OP is pretty sad. I'd certainly never hire someone like that to be my fitness trainer.0 -
Wow! Still a hot topic.
It's interesting that the OP gets fired upon for making observations. While many of you wouldn't notice the behavior of the eating vacationers, the OP would naturally see this. (I am in the dental field. I can't help but notice people's teeth. :bigsmile: )
We can't know what is in the heart of the OP. He could be thinking, "what a bunch of hogs", or more likely, he's thinking he wishes he could coach these people, especially the child. He made a fair observation. Is it more PC to shut up about it? Maybe, but that doesn't help matters either.0 -
this comment made me smile...the original post to this thread is so judgemental and elitist. I'd rather be friends with a one obese person than have 100 fitness trainer friends "caring" about me....mind your own business. 0 -
oh my ****
I am incredibly disappointed with the majority of people who have commented on this post (NOT ALL!!)
THIS IS A WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CHANGE FOR THE BETTER, AND LOSE WEIGHT AND BE HEALTHY
THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COME FOR HELP, SUPPORT AND NOT TO BE JUDGED
AND HERE HALF OF YOU ARE, STANDING AROUND ON CRUISES, PROBABLY IN MALLS AND MOVIE THEATERS,
JUDGING HEAVY PEOPLE FOR SAYING THEY ARE TAKING A WEEK OFF THEIR DIET BECAUSE THEY ARE ON VACATION
THEY ARE ALLOWED!
YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEY ARNT ON A DIET BACK HOME, AND THAT THEY HAVNT LOST 100 POUNDS
I AM HEAVY, I HAVE LOST 21 POUNDS, I STILL HAVE A CHEAT DAY AND SAY "I AM GOING TO ENJOY THIS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN DOING SO GOOD"
SO STOP FREAKIN JUDGING PEOPLE AND GROW UP
YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEY ARNT TRYING AND FOR YOU TO SIT HERE ON A WEBSITE LIKE THIS
AND BASH THOSE PEOPLE IS DISGUSTING.
Very Well Said!0 -
Consider the possibility a 300-pound person standing in line may have once weighed 400 pounds and was going on a cruise to celebrate a 100-pound loss.
Not so crazy now, is it?!
:huh: :bigsmile:
That is a really good point! :drinker:
I AGREE!!! My heaviest was 330 lbs. I've lost 100 lbs, but at 5'7" and 230, I'm still overweight.0 -
Out of interest, on a cruise is the food included in the price? If so could see peoples motivation wanting to get maximum value out ticket price.
Yes food is included...drinks - NO. I ate what I wanted on the cruise, but I wasn't too impressed with the food. I think I lost weight on the cruise, especially since I walked the length of the ship to get to the food!0 -
Im just wondering after reading comments here and im just throwing this out.....is it generally felt that when people are trying to loose weight that they dont enjoy their food sure if you dont enjoy what you eat all the time then whats the point?If you only eat certain foods for a period of time to loose weight loose it and then go back to what you like it will never work,fresh food cooked from scratch I dont think you can go wrong with for people on the run look up Jamie Olivers 30 minute meals it dosnt have to take hours slaving over a hot stove either,I love food and I like to look for new recipies and experiment as well as using old loved ones too,sure I throw on the odd burger if pushed for time dosnt everyone? evryone should eat to live and eat well not live to eat and survive on trash.0
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If I go on a cruise I'm going to eat whatever the heck I want while I'm there.
For real; I don't see the problem with that. Enjoy yourself! I would. I may not go ape *kitten* but I will enjoy myself.0 -
Stating what you observe and "bashing" people is different. There was no bashing, you're just disagreeing with the observation.oh my ****
I am incredibly disappointed with the majority of people who have commented on this post (NOT ALL!!)
THIS IS A WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CHANGE FOR THE BETTER, AND LOSE WEIGHT AND BE HEALTHY
THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COME FOR HELP, SUPPORT AND NOT TO BE JUDGED
AND HERE HALF OF YOU ARE, STANDING AROUND ON CRUISES, PROBABLY IN MALLS AND MOVIE THEATERS,
JUDGING HEAVY PEOPLE FOR SAYING THEY ARE TAKING A WEEK OFF THEIR DIET BECAUSE THEY ARE ON VACATION
THEY ARE ALLOWED!
YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEY ARNT ON A DIET BACK HOME, AND THAT THEY HAVNT LOST 100 POUNDS
I AM HEAVY, I HAVE LOST 21 POUNDS, I STILL HAVE A CHEAT DAY AND SAY "I AM GOING TO ENJOY THIS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN DOING SO GOOD"
SO STOP FREAKIN JUDGING PEOPLE AND GROW UP
YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEY ARNT TRYING AND FOR YOU TO SIT HERE ON A WEBSITE LIKE THIS
AND BASH THOSE PEOPLE IS DISGUSTING.
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Stating what you observe and "bashing" people is different. There was no bashing, you're just disagreeing with the observation.oh my ****
I am incredibly disappointed with the majority of people who have commented on this post (NOT ALL!!)
THIS IS A WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CHANGE FOR THE BETTER, AND LOSE WEIGHT AND BE HEALTHY
THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COME FOR HELP, SUPPORT AND NOT TO BE JUDGED
AND HERE HALF OF YOU ARE, STANDING AROUND ON CRUISES, PROBABLY IN MALLS AND MOVIE THEATERS,
JUDGING HEAVY PEOPLE FOR SAYING THEY ARE TAKING A WEEK OFF THEIR DIET BECAUSE THEY ARE ON VACATION
THEY ARE ALLOWED!
YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEY ARNT ON A DIET BACK HOME, AND THAT THEY HAVNT LOST 100 POUNDS
I AM HEAVY, I HAVE LOST 21 POUNDS, I STILL HAVE A CHEAT DAY AND SAY "I AM GOING TO ENJOY THIS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN DOING SO GOOD"
SO STOP FREAKIN JUDGING PEOPLE AND GROW UP
YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEY ARNT TRYING AND FOR YOU TO SIT HERE ON A WEBSITE LIKE THIS
AND BASH THOSE PEOPLE IS DISGUSTING.
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You can't have an opinion or an observation. You should know that by now.0 -
People come here to lose weight and be healthy, and when people make negative comments about behaviors that will cause them to gain weight and become unhealthy, that is somehow evil and wrong? I am confused. That seems to be more supportive than "It's ok, go ahead and eat 6000 calories in a day, you've earned it" which is exactly the sort of attitude that caused most people to become overweight to begin with. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem, and trying to dress it up as capslock-laden righteous indignation doesn't change anything. I wouldn't tell an alcoholic that it's ok to drink as much as they want because they are on vacation, regardless of how well they've done recently. I don't see how telling people with weight problems that it's ok to eat whatever they want is acceptable... just because you feel defense does not give you the right to sabotage others.oh my ****
I am incredibly disappointed with the majority of people who have commented on this post (NOT ALL!!)
THIS IS A WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CHANGE FOR THE BETTER, AND LOSE WEIGHT AND BE HEALTHY
THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COME FOR HELP, SUPPORT AND NOT TO BE JUDGED
AND HERE HALF OF YOU ARE, STANDING AROUND ON CRUISES, PROBABLY IN MALLS AND MOVIE THEATERS,
JUDGING HEAVY PEOPLE FOR SAYING THEY ARE TAKING A WEEK OFF THEIR DIET BECAUSE THEY ARE ON VACATION
THEY ARE ALLOWED!
YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEY ARNT ON A DIET BACK HOME, AND THAT THEY HAVNT LOST 100 POUNDS
I AM HEAVY, I HAVE LOST 21 POUNDS, I STILL HAVE A CHEAT DAY AND SAY "I AM GOING TO ENJOY THIS BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN DOING SO GOOD"
SO STOP FREAKIN JUDGING PEOPLE AND GROW UP
YOU DONT KNOW THAT THEY ARNT TRYING AND FOR YOU TO SIT HERE ON A WEBSITE LIKE THIS
AND BASH THOSE PEOPLE IS DISGUSTING.
*claps*
And with regards to the OP, I also see you child aged around 10 in my neighbourhood who I would estimate around 200lb and the rest of the family are the same. Do I think it's a very sad thing to see, absolutely!! And I don't think it's judgemental to think it's sad that this child is subjected to a lifestyle that will probably give him diabetes by the time he's a teen and quite probably forshorten his life.0 -
The thing is I felt more for empathy (especially for the 12 year old) since I'm in a job that works with people who are overweight/obese on a daily basis. I'm not judging them because like I stated in an earlier post, if that were the case, why bother working with them? I've posted lots of threads on the possibilities of why people get overweight/obese and how to help avoid them. I just think that some here who have struggled with discrimination about it are looking at this as another discriminative post, when it's not.i have never gained 10 pounds on a vacation in my life. And when i have a treat day or somehting, i have a small amount of a food i enjoy like one serving of it, mainly because i am concerned that i will loss my progress. I am just saying that those people that eat copious amounts of food on their vacation, yes they are in the wrong because its so unhealthy etc, but i just dont think its right to sit around and judge them because you know better now. thats all im saying
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I debated on posting.....I hope I don't offend anybody, but here are my views.
I actually wondered if I knew some of the people on the cruise the OP was talking about. If not it was one similar.
My best friend from college days is married to a very large woman, with no gall bladder, and she is pre-diabetic.
She refuses to eat right even at home, and at functions makes a big deal like "all bets are off, I'm eating everything!"
She wound up sick from gorging herself 3 days out of the 4...and the cruise was miserable for my friend because wifey was in the bathroom almost constantly. When my friend mentioned possibly eating lighter so she wouldn't be sick, she made it into a "you hate me because I'm fat" fight. Not that they should have enjoyed a cruise...
I can understand what OP is talking about, and I don't think he's being rude. I think he is just being honest. Let's face it, none of us should use anything as an excuse to gorge ourselves. That's a pattern that got us in the position of being fat and unhealthy.
Enjoying a holiday is one thing, but gorging because you're on "vacation" is really not healthy.
I have been VERY guilty of the same thing.
I have been the person that says "Well, it's ____________, I'm gonna eat whatever I want, and as much as I want."
I knew it was wrong, but I did it anyway. Unfortunately it doesn't end with whatever occasion it is.... It's a slippery slope, one I slid waaaaay down to the bottom on myself...
Now, I might eat something on an occasion I might not eat often (IE: cheesecake!), but I will have one piece and leave it at that, within my goals. This is my lifestyle....and I don't ever want to go back to where I was.0 -
Congrats! It's tough to just maintain weight on a vacation, and much more to lose on one.I feel so sad for that 12ish year old boy
One of my main reasons for this life change was so I could do all the things I wanted with my two little girls. As haveing a very Large mom myself she missed out on doing a ton of things with me growing up and currently missing out on things now with her grandkids. We all went to a local theme park a few weeks ago and they have double seats on the swing ride my girls each wanted to ride with grandma and well my poor little 38pound 7year old and 33pound 5year old could not fit in the double seat next to grandma (grandma also saddly could not pull the bar down all the way in the single seat ) it was heart breaking my mom had to get off the ride infront of everyone and I had to cut threw the line watching to get on with my daughter as she was to small to ride alone.
When on vacation now and I`ve gone on 3 different ones since starting this change (planning to go on another this August 20th) I set my cals to maintain and workout at the hotel early in the morning so that I have a few extra cals for those enjoyment items while away on vacation. The last trip my hubby and I took I actualy came home a pound less and still enjoyed good food.
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Raise your hand if you feel awesome when you stuff yourself into a diabetic coma!
I never understood why people "can't wait" to do this given whatever excuse. Not that I've never done it myself; I'm not perfect. But as I've gotten older I've realized that everytime I go "off my diet" for a celebretory event and overeat I **really** feel crappy and sluggish and bloated afterward. So I just don't do it anymore.0 -
The summation of...."They ate like they were starving, but by their size they obviously were not" Sorry, but this is so untrue. More obese people suffer from malnutrition than do thin people in this country. Our bodies ARE programmed to eat when we see food. You take someone who is suffering malnutrition and yes, they may gorge, from some primal instinct driven by their hungry body's trying to get the nourishment they need!
Losing weight takes a special combination of factors, for each individual. We are NOT all a like. It isn't just poor diet and lack of exercise that keeps some of us carrying excess fat. For those who can skip a brownie and lose a pound, its hard to understand that not everyone can do that. Its just not that simple.
Our common mainstream medications help to make us malnourished. Looking into the side effects of many medications and you will find many block absorption of nutrients. Heartburn meds are one example. You take an innocent pill to feel better, and it blocks absorption of nutrients. You can eat like a pig, even eating all the 'right nutritious foods' and still suffer from malnutrition, which of course, will lead your body to want to eat more, trying to get the nutrients it needs.
I know a woman that lives on peanut M&Ms, eats greasy burgers and fries daily, never exercises, has little muscle and is very thin. Yet I eat only fresh healthy foods, and carry excess weight. I know a man who walks 10 miles a day, lifts weights, eats very healthy, and yet is 100 lbs overweight. Yet he is healthier than the thin woman, just not so pretty to look at, by society's standards..
One size does not fit all, when it comes to what is a healthy diet and what causes fat storage in a body.
Yes, its sad to see here in an otherwise supportive place, so much judgment. We should not judge until we walked in that persons shoes.....0 -
I usually don't comment on things but this really bothers me. I have had to deal with people like this my entire life. I am overweight. I am overweight because of several reasons...mainly I overeat and don't exercise enough. I am trying to make a change. The last thing I need is some judgemental person making negative comments like this. What I choose to eat or not eat is my business...and only mine....please keep your insulting judgements to yourself...
This is all well and good..... but don't come out here for support or encuoragement with a "Its my business" attitude. You want it to be your business? Then good luck in your endevor.0 -
Nope, have been overweight before.Your signature says you have been in fitness for 28 years so I peaked at your profile and you are 48. I'm gathering that you have never been overweight.
Bad eating habits, lack of knowledge, lack of physical activity, low self esteem and hormonal issues are the usual culprits, so yes I do have an idea. Weight gain isn't very complicated to figure out. And nice STRAWMAN argument. I happen to be a very good trainer who get excellent results with my overweight/obese clients. You're more than welcome to come visit my facility and see.You have no idea what lead people to where they are. I can't imagine that you are even a decent trainer with that nasty hateful attitude.
More strawman. Obviously you don't agree with anything I've posted, so we'll leave it at that.Obesity is frequently learned from childhood, a symptom of mental health issues, and can stem from medical issues that YOU my not associate with weight gain. I can GUARANTY that myself and a huge body of research says that YOUR diet is toxic and cancer promoting...GET OVER YOURSELF!
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