Getting discouraged. Lean bulk or cut? What should I do?
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LolBroScience wrote: »You may not look as "lean," but you look more "jacked" overall right now, if that makes any sense.
I agree, and to add, LolBroscience has added a lot more weight than you and he's been a bulk a really long time. I agree that you're definitely adding muscle; I think you're just in the weird mentality of the bulk adding too much fat and it not looking right. It's all in your head; you look great.
Your arms have noticeable size gains, same with Chest thickness IMO. Shoulder comparison is hard to see, but you're turned with one arm up so I bet if you stuck two side by side arms down comparison pics you'd notice more of a difference. Also, have you measured the shoulders at all?
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LolBroScience wrote: »You may not look as "lean," but you look more "jacked" overall right now, if that makes any sense.
I agree, and to add, LolBroscience has added a lot more weight than you and he's been a bulk a really long time. I agree that you're definitely adding muscle; I think you're just in the weird mentality of the bulk adding too much fat and it not looking right. It's all in your head; you look great.
Your arms have noticeable size gains, same with Chest thickness IMO. Shoulder comparison is hard to see, but you're turned with one arm up so I bet if you stuck two side by side arms down comparison pics you'd notice more of a difference. Also, have you measured the shoulders at all?
No I have not.
I should have done that over the summer and I did not.
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How can you know if you didn't track! Silly. Get out the tape measure immediately! Measure those shoulders and track!0
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Yeah, I will.....
Was just going on pics.
Figured if I was putting on some size, it would at least show up there.
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I didn't think I'd put on noticeable size in my shoulders last year but was able to track based on measurements...went from 37" circumference to 39" circumference.0
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Fair point, I should have measured.....kicking myself for it now.0
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
I didn't really when I looked in the mirror...but a side by side showed a change from looking like a pear to more of an hourglass, but it wasn't until I saw the numbers that it really clicked.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
I didn't really when I looked in the mirror...but a side by side showed a change from looking like a pear to more of an hourglass, but it wasn't until I saw the numbers that it really clicked.
Ahh, I see now. I found the best thing for the shoulder girdle was doing C&J and snatching. It makes a huge difference in delt and trap thickness. I noticed it more from how the feel of my shirts fit around the shoulders.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
I didn't really when I looked in the mirror...but a side by side showed a change from looking like a pear to more of an hourglass, but it wasn't until I saw the numbers that it really clicked.
Ahh, I see now. I found the best thing for the shoulder girdle was doing C&J and snatching. It makes a huge difference in delt and trap thickness. I noticed it more from how the feel of my shirts fit around the shoulders.
I do power cleans, but have never done jerked or snatched (I'm giggling like a 14yo boy right now). I'm afraid of doing them wrong
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The amount of jacked men in this thread is making me sad.
I wonder if anyone is going to be a damn cry baby again and have the pictures removed like they did to PWR. Morons.
Didn't even realize that they were pulled it wasn't like one of those thigh gap pictures. MFP gets a little strange at times.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »The amount of jacked men in this thread is making me sad.
I wonder if anyone is going to be a damn cry baby again and have the pictures removed like they did to PWR. Morons.
Didn't even realize that they were pulled it wasn't like one of those thigh gap pictures. MFP gets a little strange at times.
Oooohhhh....should we start posting thigh gap pics?!0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
I didn't really when I looked in the mirror...but a side by side showed a change from looking like a pear to more of an hourglass, but it wasn't until I saw the numbers that it really clicked.
Ahh, I see now. I found the best thing for the shoulder girdle was doing C&J and snatching. It makes a huge difference in delt and trap thickness. I noticed it more from how the feel of my shirts fit around the shoulders.
I do power cleans, but have never done jerked or snatched (I'm giggling like a 14yo boy right now). I'm afraid of doing them wrong
Yes, it's your duty to snatch -- Peter Griffin is giddy now!
Don't worry about doing it wrong because EVERYONE does them wrong at first. I was practicing for over a month with a broom handle to get the form down. It takes some time to work both form and get the proper strength and flexibility. I was helping a couple guys do OHS last night and they couldn't get below parallel because they lacked balance, flexibility and strength, but in a couple weeks they will be doing it more or less correctly.
Give it a try, Snatch is one of the best things for upper back.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »The amount of jacked men in this thread is making me sad.
I wonder if anyone is going to be a damn cry baby again and have the pictures removed like they did to PWR. Morons.
Didn't even realize that they were pulled it wasn't like one of those thigh gap pictures. MFP gets a little strange at times.
Oooohhhh....should we start posting thigh gap pics?!
LOL then it will be like that Chipotles thread!0 -
OHS is another thing I keep thinking about and not doing. I've got squat day tomorrow and WILL do them!!!
Will try jerk and snatch on Sunday. I'll be YouTubeing videos first!0 -
OHS is another thing I keep thinking about and not doing. I've got squat day tomorrow and WILL do them!!!
Will try jerk and snatch on Sunday. I'll be YouTubeing videos first!
Some call OHS the king of exercises as it can really work the full body and you will see how strong your core is when doing it.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »OHS is another thing I keep thinking about and not doing. I've got squat day tomorrow and WILL do them!!!
Will try jerk and snatch on Sunday. I'll be YouTubeing videos first!
Some call OHS the king of exercises as it can really work the full body and you will see how strong your core is when doing it.
What kind of weight should I start with?!0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »OHS is another thing I keep thinking about and not doing. I've got squat day tomorrow and WILL do them!!!
Will try jerk and snatch on Sunday. I'll be YouTubeing videos first!
Some call OHS the king of exercises as it can really work the full body and you will see how strong your core is when doing it.
What kind of weight should I start with?!
A women's bar. The snatch is a highly technical move and there's a chance you'll end up on your *kitten* a few times trying it out.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »OHS is another thing I keep thinking about and not doing. I've got squat day tomorrow and WILL do them!!!
Will try jerk and snatch on Sunday. I'll be YouTubeing videos first!
Some call OHS the king of exercises as it can really work the full body and you will see how strong your core is when doing it.
What kind of weight should I start with?!
Do you do overhead squats ever? That might be a good starting point if you don't.0
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