Paleo vs Eatting clean?
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BlackTimber wrote: »Pumpkin Pie Label for :"home made pumpkin pie"
INGREDIENTS: Skim Milk, Cream, Sugar, Pumpkin, Pie Crust {Enriched Flour, Shortening (Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and Cottonseed Oils), Sugar, Water, corn Startch, Salt Coconut Oil, Pasteurized Eggs, Corn syrup, Brown Sugar, Annatto [ Natural Color, Stabilizer [Celluolse Gum, Carob Bean Gum, Carrageenan, Guar Gum, Dextrose, Salt], Lemon Juice Concentrate, Cellulose Gum, Natural Flavors, Spices.
To me, that seems like a highly processed food item. "Not Clean"
When we make pumpkin pie at home the can we start with say this:
INGREDIENTS: Pumpkin
lulz.
The stabilizers and gums are just for processing, and equivalent to basically nothing. Besides, I've seen most of those gums for sale at hippy shops, because they're "healthful supplements", same with the dextrose.
So what's your boggle, citizen? Are you just seeing gums and a -trose and having a little freak out for the fun?
Yes I know what all those ingredients are and have used some at home. Simply an example of the simple vs. the over complicated. You should consider dropping the condescending attitude. Not well taken and not deserved!!!!!!!!!!!
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I, for one, am fascinated by the argument that pumpkin from a can qualifies as eating clean.0
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BlackTimber wrote: »BlackTimber wrote: »Pumpkin Pie Label for :"home made pumpkin pie"
INGREDIENTS: Skim Milk, Cream, Sugar, Pumpkin, Pie Crust {Enriched Flour, Shortening (Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and Cottonseed Oils), Sugar, Water, corn Startch, Salt Coconut Oil, Pasteurized Eggs, Corn syrup, Brown Sugar, Annatto [ Natural Color, Stabilizer [Celluolse Gum, Carob Bean Gum, Carrageenan, Guar Gum, Dextrose, Salt], Lemon Juice Concentrate, Cellulose Gum, Natural Flavors, Spices.
To me, that seems like a highly processed food item. "Not Clean"
When we make pumpkin pie at home the can we start with say this:
INGREDIENTS: Pumpkin
lulz.
The stabilizers and gums are just for processing, and equivalent to basically nothing. Besides, I've seen most of those gums for sale at hippy shops, because they're "healthful supplements", same with the dextrose.
So what's your boggle, citizen? Are you just seeing gums and a -trose and having a little freak out for the fun?
Yes I know what all those ingredients are and have used some at home. Simply an example of the simple vs. the over complicated. You should consider dropping the condescending attitude. Not well taken and not deserved!!!!!!!!!!!
The internet... you must be new here-1 -
RllyGudTweetr wrote: »I, for one, am fascinated by the argument that pumpkin from a can qualifies as eating clean.
Beer comes in a can too! I guess in the infinite revolving door definition of clean eating I think of clean eating as being "more" simple.-1 -
RllyGudTweetr wrote: »I, for one, am fascinated by the argument that pumpkin from a can qualifies as eating clean.
Yep, that was a classic, even by MFP standards.
:drinker:
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BlackTimber wrote: »BlackTimber wrote: »Pumpkin Pie Label for :"home made pumpkin pie"
INGREDIENTS: Skim Milk, Cream, Sugar, Pumpkin, Pie Crust {Enriched Flour, Shortening (Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and Cottonseed Oils), Sugar, Water, corn Startch, Salt Coconut Oil, Pasteurized Eggs, Corn syrup, Brown Sugar, Annatto [ Natural Color, Stabilizer [Celluolse Gum, Carob Bean Gum, Carrageenan, Guar Gum, Dextrose, Salt], Lemon Juice Concentrate, Cellulose Gum, Natural Flavors, Spices.
To me, that seems like a highly processed food item. "Not Clean"
When we make pumpkin pie at home the can we start with say this:
INGREDIENTS: Pumpkin
lulz.
The stabilizers and gums are just for processing, and equivalent to basically nothing. Besides, I've seen most of those gums for sale at hippy shops, because they're "healthful supplements", same with the dextrose.
So what's your boggle, citizen? Are you just seeing gums and a -trose and having a little freak out for the fun?
Yes I know what all those ingredients are and have used some at home. Simply an example of the simple vs. the over complicated. You should consider dropping the condescending attitude. Not well taken and not deserved!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh it was deserved. I'm not very kind to people who chicken little over nothing. Your example was horrid fyi. You uncovered precisely nothing that was questionable.
!!!111!!!111!!!oneone!!
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EatsNotTreats wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »BlackTimber wrote: »BlackTimber wrote: »Pumpkin Pie Label for :"home made pumpkin pie"
INGREDIENTS: Skim Milk, Cream, Sugar, Pumpkin, Pie Crust {Enriched Flour, Shortening (Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and Cottonseed Oils), Sugar, Water, corn Startch, Salt Coconut Oil, Pasteurized Eggs, Corn syrup, Brown Sugar, Annatto [ Natural Color, Stabilizer [Celluolse Gum, Carob Bean Gum, Carrageenan, Guar Gum, Dextrose, Salt], Lemon Juice Concentrate, Cellulose Gum, Natural Flavors, Spices.
To me, that seems like a highly processed food item. "Not Clean"
When we make pumpkin pie at home the can we start with say this:
INGREDIENTS: Pumpkin
lulz.
The stabilizers and gums are just for processing, and equivalent to basically nothing. Besides, I've seen most of those gums for sale at hippy shops, because they're "healthful supplements", same with the dextrose.
So what's your boggle, citizen? Are you just seeing gums and a -trose and having a little freak out for the fun?
Yes I know what all those ingredients are and have used some at home. Simply an example of the simple vs. the over complicated. You should consider dropping the condescending attitude. Not well taken and not deserved!!!!!!!!!!!
The internet... you must be new here
BlackTimber consider this a compliment. I have fun exchanging condescending remarks with people like this, because bullying bullies is fun to me. But I really respect those like you who keep their manners.
Not so much a bullying remark as it is a "learn to deal with it because the internet isn't going to change for you" remark. If you want to be offended by insignificant comments over the internet all good, I personally don't shed a tear.0 -
All I know for sure is that after I stopped eating fake weight-watcher type "diet" snacks (100 calorie snack packs too), my cholesterol level plummeted. Do what works for you and unless they are paying your bills, pay them b*tches no mind!0
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jenluvsushi wrote: »All I know for sure is that after I stopped eating fake weight-watcher type "diet" snacks (100 calorie snack packs too), my cholesterol level plummeted. Do what works for you and unless they are paying your bills, pay them b*tches no mind!
How do I know if they're fake or not? I just bought some 100 calorie snack packs of nuts. Some are just roasted nuts, and others have a vanilla coating. Is there some specific ingredient I should look out for, or does the fact that they come in a big package, broken into individual packages, automatically eliminate them from a healthy diet?0 -
jenluvsushi wrote: »All I know for sure is that after I stopped eating fake weight-watcher type "diet" snacks (100 calorie snack packs too), my cholesterol level plummeted. Do what works for you and unless they are paying your bills, pay them b*tches no mind!
My weight and cholesterol went up when I ate 100 calorie snacks because I can put quite a few of them away at a time.0 -
RllyGudTweetr wrote: »I, for one, am fascinated by the argument that pumpkin from a can qualifies as eating clean.
I, for one, am fascinated by the argument that pumpkin from a can qualifies as a pumpkin pie. Pretty sure that is just pumpkin puree. There needs to be a crust, at a minimum, to qualify as pie.
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jenluvsushi wrote: »All I know for sure is that after I stopped eating fake weight-watcher type "diet" snacks (100 calorie snack packs too), my cholesterol level plummeted. Do what works for you and unless they are paying your bills, pay them b*tches no mind!
My weight and cholesterol went up when I ate 100 calorie snacks because I can put quite a few of them away at a time.
You must have been eating the fake ones. Real ones don't make you gain weight.
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They were comparing a premade frozen pumpkin pie to a can of pureed pumpkin.
Because those are totally the same thing, right?0 -
RllyGudTweetr wrote: »I, for one, am fascinated by the argument that pumpkin from a can qualifies as eating clean.
I, for one, am fascinated by the argument that pumpkin from a can qualifies as a pumpkin pie. Pretty sure that is just pumpkin puree. There needs to be a crust, at a minimum, to qualify as pie.
My crust has a few ingredients, and then I add a sweetener and some spices to the pumpkin, so it ends up having a few more than 5 ingredients, making it unclean. Downright dirty, even.
Very, very dirty.
Here....let me put a little something on you....
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »RllyGudTweetr wrote: »I, for one, am fascinated by the argument that pumpkin from a can qualifies as eating clean.
I, for one, am fascinated by the argument that pumpkin from a can qualifies as a pumpkin pie. Pretty sure that is just pumpkin puree. There needs to be a crust, at a minimum, to qualify as pie.
My crust has a few ingredients, and then I add a sweetener and some spices to the pumpkin, so it ends up having a few more than 5 ingredients, making it unclean. Downright dirty, even.
Very, very dirty.
Here....let me put a little something on you....
Unless you're actually squeezing honey directly out of a bee, any sweetener you use is processed as well.
And actually.. the bee created the honey by digesting and puking it up! Processed!!
CURSE YOU, PROCESSED FOODS!
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »jenluvsushi wrote: »All I know for sure is that after I stopped eating fake weight-watcher type "diet" snacks (100 calorie snack packs too), my cholesterol level plummeted. Do what works for you and unless they are paying your bills, pay them b*tches no mind!
How do I know if they're fake or not? I just bought some 100 calorie snack packs of nuts. Some are just roasted nuts, and others have a vanilla coating. Is there some specific ingredient I should look out for, or does the fact that they come in a big package, broken into individual packages, automatically eliminate them from a healthy diet?
I'm not talking about roasted nuts...those are freaking awesome. I'm talking about 100 calorie "diet" foods that are super processed. I was into lean cuisines and weight watchers snacks with thousand ingredient labels. I was also pretty thin but had off the chart cholesterol. When I stopped eating that garbage, my cholesterol went down to normal levels. I was eating tons of high cholesterol foods like whole eggs and red meat too.....but still it was much lower so I am assuming it was what I was eating previously.
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RllyGudTweetr wrote: »I, for one, am fascinated by the argument that pumpkin from a can qualifies as eating clean.
I, for one, am fascinated by the argument that pumpkin from a can qualifies as a pumpkin pie. Pretty sure that is just pumpkin puree.
Most of the time, it's not even that, it's a mix of various squashes.
And yep, that meets labelling guidelines, at least in the US.
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rprussell2004 wrote: »Hey, um, since this thread is basically over anyway, how come nobody commented on the OP's title, and that "eating" only has ONE 'T' in it?
Because fighting spelling errors on hear would be a loosing battle....
And yes, those 2 typos were on purpose.
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rprussell2004 wrote: »Hey, um, since this thread is basically over anyway, how come nobody commented on the OP's title, and that "eating" only has ONE 'T' in it?
Because it's against forum rules. At least, it used to be.-1 -
jenluvsushi wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »jenluvsushi wrote: »All I know for sure is that after I stopped eating fake weight-watcher type "diet" snacks (100 calorie snack packs too), my cholesterol level plummeted. Do what works for you and unless they are paying your bills, pay them b*tches no mind!
How do I know if they're fake or not? I just bought some 100 calorie snack packs of nuts. Some are just roasted nuts, and others have a vanilla coating. Is there some specific ingredient I should look out for, or does the fact that they come in a big package, broken into individual packages, automatically eliminate them from a healthy diet?
I'm not talking about roasted nuts...those are freaking awesome. I'm talking about 100 calorie "diet" foods that are super processed. I was into lean cuisines and weight watchers snacks with thousand ingredient labels. I was also pretty thin but had off the chart cholesterol. When I stopped eating that garbage, my cholesterol went down to normal levels. I was eating tons of high cholesterol foods like whole eggs and red meat too.....but still it was much lower so I am assuming it was what I was eating previously.
Did you lose weight over that period of time?0 -
I'm not sure how they sound like the same thing. Clean eating you eliminate processed foods, but you can still eat dairy and certain foods that are restricted on a Paleo diet.0
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »But as far as the silly, ill-defined claims that each represent?
If you want to do low-carb, go for it. Many people have great success with it. It can be a method of controlling your calories. But it's not some magic pill which will allow you to overeat and still lose weight, and if you plan to reintroduce carbs into your diet in the future, you're still going to have to learn how to eat them in moderation, so you can do that now, or later. Or just never eat bread or potatoes again. But please don't buy into the whole Paleo cult.
Same for "clean eating." It's extremely wide open as to what that entails, as the rules change depending on who you ask. Unproccessed (which means nothing at all from a can or bottle, box or bag?) without things you can't pronounce (I can pronounce almost anything, and fruits/vegetables contain compounds that are remarkably similar to those things most people can't pronounce) or more than 5 ingredients (which I guess leaves out most of my homemade dishes with fresh ingredients, as I use way more than 5 ingredients, even if most of them are veggies and herbs/spices.)
Still, you do you. Try a few things and see what works best in taking the weight off and keeping you sane at the same time. Find something that will stick, that is sustainable, a new way of life instead of a temporary "diet."
I think they mean more than 5 ingredients on packaged items, not homemade.0 -
You buy your food?EatsNotTreats wrote: »baconslave wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »
Maybe I am untypical because when I hear someone wanting to eat a healthier diet I don't instantly feel as though they have just walked across the room and slapped me in the face)
It's sucks being the sane minority, doesn't it?
There is a silver lining.... like I said in a previous thread... There's less quality food at the supermarket or even farmer's market and the less people I have to race to get there the better.
Crazy. I only consume things that have never been exchanged for money.
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BlackTimber wrote: »RllyGudTweetr wrote: »I, for one, am fascinated by the argument that pumpkin from a can qualifies as eating clean.
Beer comes in a can too! I guess in the infinite revolving door definition of clean eating I think of clean eating as being "more" simple.
Is beer "clean"?
It's not paleo, so that goes back to the original question posed by this thread, yay!-1 -
At least you aren't one of those crazy freegans!EatsNotTreats wrote: »
You buy your food?EatsNotTreats wrote: »baconslave wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »
Maybe I am untypical because when I hear someone wanting to eat a healthier diet I don't instantly feel as though they have just walked across the room and slapped me in the face)
It's sucks being the sane minority, doesn't it?
There is a silver lining.... like I said in a previous thread... There's less quality food at the supermarket or even farmer's market and the less people I have to race to get there the better.
Crazy. I only consume things that have never been exchanged for money.
I never said I BOUGHT the food. The new trend is actually eating it raw on the counter before you are spotted. We call it speed-paleo.
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jenluvsushi wrote: »I was eating tons of high cholesterol foods like whole eggs and red meat too.....but still it was much lower so I am assuming it was what I was eating previously.
Most people's cholesterol doesn't respond to dietary cholesterol.0 -
HardyGirl4Ever wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »But as far as the silly, ill-defined claims that each represent?
If you want to do low-carb, go for it. Many people have great success with it. It can be a method of controlling your calories. But it's not some magic pill which will allow you to overeat and still lose weight, and if you plan to reintroduce carbs into your diet in the future, you're still going to have to learn how to eat them in moderation, so you can do that now, or later. Or just never eat bread or potatoes again. But please don't buy into the whole Paleo cult.
Same for "clean eating." It's extremely wide open as to what that entails, as the rules change depending on who you ask. Unproccessed (which means nothing at all from a can or bottle, box or bag?) without things you can't pronounce (I can pronounce almost anything, and fruits/vegetables contain compounds that are remarkably similar to those things most people can't pronounce) or more than 5 ingredients (which I guess leaves out most of my homemade dishes with fresh ingredients, as I use way more than 5 ingredients, even if most of them are veggies and herbs/spices.)
Still, you do you. Try a few things and see what works best in taking the weight off and keeping you sane at the same time. Find something that will stick, that is sustainable, a new way of life instead of a temporary "diet."
I think they mean more than 5 ingredients on packaged items, not homemade.
What difference does it make?
For example, for lunch today I purchased a wrap involving more than 5 ingredients. I could make the same basic wrap at home (but didn't). Why would the homemade one be "clean" and the restaurant one be "unclean," assuming I had reason to believe that the quality of the ingredients from the restaurant were comparable?
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To be fair, the OP never came back to clarify what her reasons or goals are for wanting change her diet to paleo or clean. For all we know, it has little to do with health and she just wants to do it because she read somewhere that she could lose 3 inches off her hips in a week if she just switches to one of these eating styles. And we all know that neither paleo or clean eating guarantee health improvements because it's possible to have an unbalanced diet no matter how you eat.baconslave wrote: »tennisdude2004 wrote: »
Maybe I am untypical because when I hear someone wanting to eat a healthier diet I don't instantly feel as though they have just walked across the room and slapped me in the face)
It's sucks being the sane minority, doesn't it?
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HardyGirl4Ever wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »But as far as the silly, ill-defined claims that each represent?
If you want to do low-carb, go for it. Many people have great success with it. It can be a method of controlling your calories. But it's not some magic pill which will allow you to overeat and still lose weight, and if you plan to reintroduce carbs into your diet in the future, you're still going to have to learn how to eat them in moderation, so you can do that now, or later. Or just never eat bread or potatoes again. But please don't buy into the whole Paleo cult.
Same for "clean eating." It's extremely wide open as to what that entails, as the rules change depending on who you ask. Unproccessed (which means nothing at all from a can or bottle, box or bag?) without things you can't pronounce (I can pronounce almost anything, and fruits/vegetables contain compounds that are remarkably similar to those things most people can't pronounce) or more than 5 ingredients (which I guess leaves out most of my homemade dishes with fresh ingredients, as I use way more than 5 ingredients, even if most of them are veggies and herbs/spices.)
Still, you do you. Try a few things and see what works best in taking the weight off and keeping you sane at the same time. Find something that will stick, that is sustainable, a new way of life instead of a temporary "diet."
I think they mean more than 5 ingredients on packaged items, not homemade.
Many of my organic frozen vegetables come with more than 5 veggies. In a plastic bag.0
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