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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It's really sad to me that all these so-called "documentaries" and theories which point to an outside source (carbs, sugar, processed foods, meat, etc.) and blames that source for weight gain gets so many followers who are ready to embrace a crutch rather than take personal responsibility for their own actions. *sigh*
I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!
Are you trying to argue that there's nothing wrong with sugar ?
The problem isn't with sugar, the problem is with people who can't control themselves.
So heroin is ok then ?
so your saying that heroin = sugar???????0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
An addict will do anything in order to feed their addiction. If what you say is true, then sugar addicts would be stealing sweets from the store, stealing money to buy sweets, and digging sweets out of the trash.
It is not an addiction if it is selective.
The addict does not have to steal from the store. Food/drink with sugar is plentiful at the store and it is very, very low cost... so why would any one steal something that is everywhere ?
People do many things to feed that addiction... such as choosing to not eat healthy and instead eat foods that are heavy in sugar, not drink water and instead drink fountain soda after fountain soda, etc.
People are choosing to do that no doubt, but people also choose to do heroin, crack, and cocaine.
Comparing sugar to drugs is a false equivalence.0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It's really sad to me that all these so-called "documentaries" and theories which point to an outside source (carbs, sugar, processed foods, meat, etc.) and blames that source for weight gain gets so many followers who are ready to embrace a crutch rather than take personal responsibility for their own actions. *sigh*
I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!
Are you trying to argue that there's nothing wrong with sugar ?
yes, I believe we are.
over consumption of calories leads to obesity….
you can get 100% of your diet from sugar, be in a deficit, and lose weight. Just google the twinkie diet….
there are no essential nutrients in sugar.
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It's really sad to me that all these so-called "documentaries" and theories which point to an outside source (carbs, sugar, processed foods, meat, etc.) and blames that source for weight gain gets so many followers who are ready to embrace a crutch rather than take personal responsibility for their own actions. *sigh*
I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!
Are you trying to argue that there's nothing wrong with sugar ?
The problem isn't with sugar, the problem is with people who can't control themselves.
So heroin is ok then ?
so your saying that heroin = sugar???????
I'm saying that if there is nothing wrong with the object... and it's strictly on the person.. then why is heroin illegal ?
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It's really sad to me that all these so-called "documentaries" and theories which point to an outside source (carbs, sugar, processed foods, meat, etc.) and blames that source for weight gain gets so many followers who are ready to embrace a crutch rather than take personal responsibility for their own actions. *sigh*
I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!
Are you trying to argue that there's nothing wrong with sugar ?
yes, I believe we are.
over consumption of calories leads to obesity….
you can get 100% of your diet from sugar, be in a deficit, and lose weight. Just google the twinkie diet….
there are no essential nutrients in sugar.
that has nothing to do with whether it is addictive or not ..
actually, the guy that did the twinkie diet lost weight and had better health markers….go figure…but you know, sugar...0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
An addict will do anything in order to feed their addiction. If what you say is true, then sugar addicts would be stealing sweets from the store, stealing money to buy sweets, and digging sweets out of the trash.
It is not an addiction if it is selective.
The addict does not have to steal from the store. Food/drink with sugar is plentiful at the store and it is very, very low cost... so why would any one steal something that is everywhere ?
People do many things to feed that addiction... such as choosing to not eat healthy and instead eat foods that are heavy in sugar, not drink water and instead drink fountain soda after fountain soda, etc.
People are choosing to do that no doubt, but people also choose to do heroin, crack, and cocaine.
Comparing sugar to drugs is a false equivalence.
How so ?
They're both extremely addicting and will cause harm to your body up to resulting in death.
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
An addict will do anything in order to feed their addiction. If what you say is true, then sugar addicts would be stealing sweets from the store, stealing money to buy sweets, and digging sweets out of the trash.
It is not an addiction if it is selective.
The addict does not have to steal from the store. Food/drink with sugar is plentiful at the store and it is very, very low cost... so why would any one steal something that is everywhere ?
People do many things to feed that addiction... such as choosing to not eat healthy and instead eat foods that are heavy in sugar, not drink water and instead drink fountain soda after fountain soda, etc.
People are choosing to do that no doubt, but people also choose to do heroin, crack, and cocaine.
When was the last time you saw someone who had voided themselves and/or dead in the streets from sugar?
Your last statement is one of the most ignorant ones I have seen. Do you realize how physically addictive crack is?
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
An addict will do anything in order to feed their addiction. If what you say is true, then sugar addicts would be stealing sweets from the store, stealing money to buy sweets, and digging sweets out of the trash.
It is not an addiction if it is selective.
The addict does not have to steal from the store. Food/drink with sugar is plentiful at the store and it is very, very low cost... so why would any one steal something that is everywhere ?
People do many things to feed that addiction... such as choosing to not eat healthy and instead eat foods that are heavy in sugar, not drink water and instead drink fountain soda after fountain soda, etc.
People are choosing to do that no doubt, but people also choose to do heroin, crack, and cocaine.
Comparing sugar to drugs is a false equivalence.
How so ?
They're both extremely addicting and will cause harm to your body up to resulting in death.
please find me the one person that has died from OD'ing on sugar…..0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It's really sad to me that all these so-called "documentaries" and theories which point to an outside source (carbs, sugar, processed foods, meat, etc.) and blames that source for weight gain gets so many followers who are ready to embrace a crutch rather than take personal responsibility for their own actions. *sigh*
I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!
Are you trying to argue that there's nothing wrong with sugar ?
The problem isn't with sugar, the problem is with people who can't control themselves.
So heroin is ok then ?
so your saying that heroin = sugar???????
I'm saying that if there is nothing wrong with the object... and it's strictly on the person.. then why is heroin illegal ?
Heroin is an opioid. Sugar is a nutrient that fuels your body and gives it energy. Stop with the ridiculous argument...0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It's really sad to me that all these so-called "documentaries" and theories which point to an outside source (carbs, sugar, processed foods, meat, etc.) and blames that source for weight gain gets so many followers who are ready to embrace a crutch rather than take personal responsibility for their own actions. *sigh*
I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!
Are you trying to argue that there's nothing wrong with sugar ?
The problem isn't with sugar, the problem is with people who can't control themselves.
So heroin is ok then ?
so your saying that heroin = sugar???????
I'm saying that if there is nothing wrong with the object... and it's strictly on the person.. then why is heroin illegal ?
Are you being this obtuse on purpose?
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It's really sad to me that all these so-called "documentaries" and theories which point to an outside source (carbs, sugar, processed foods, meat, etc.) and blames that source for weight gain gets so many followers who are ready to embrace a crutch rather than take personal responsibility for their own actions. *sigh*
I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!
Are you trying to argue that there's nothing wrong with sugar ?
The problem isn't with sugar, the problem is with people who can't control themselves.
So heroin is ok then ?
You are fishing and your argument is weak. Heroin is not sugar. Are fruits and vegetables bad?
Fruits are rich in fiber.
You do know how fiber works when processing sugar right ?
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It's really sad to me that all these so-called "documentaries" and theories which point to an outside source (carbs, sugar, processed foods, meat, etc.) and blames that source for weight gain gets so many followers who are ready to embrace a crutch rather than take personal responsibility for their own actions. *sigh*
I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!
Are you trying to argue that there's nothing wrong with sugar ?
The problem isn't with sugar, the problem is with people who can't control themselves.
So heroin is ok then ?
so your saying that heroin = sugar???????
I'm saying that if there is nothing wrong with the object... and it's strictly on the person.. then why is heroin illegal ?
because heroin is a controlled substance that kills people and/or ruins their lives….
ever go on a sugar binge and sell the family farm????? ever read about anyone doing that? ever seen kids living in slums scrapping cans to get a sugar fix…?????0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It's really sad to me that all these so-called "documentaries" and theories which point to an outside source (carbs, sugar, processed foods, meat, etc.) and blames that source for weight gain gets so many followers who are ready to embrace a crutch rather than take personal responsibility for their own actions. *sigh*
I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!
Are you trying to argue that there's nothing wrong with sugar ?
yes, I believe we are.
over consumption of calories leads to obesity….
you can get 100% of your diet from sugar, be in a deficit, and lose weight. Just google the twinkie diet….
there are no essential nutrients in sugar.
So what?0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It's really sad to me that all these so-called "documentaries" and theories which point to an outside source (carbs, sugar, processed foods, meat, etc.) and blames that source for weight gain gets so many followers who are ready to embrace a crutch rather than take personal responsibility for their own actions. *sigh*
I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!
Are you trying to argue that there's nothing wrong with sugar ?
The problem isn't with sugar, the problem is with people who can't control themselves.
So heroin is ok then ?
You are fishing and your argument is weak. Heroin is not sugar. Are fruits and vegetables bad?
Fruits are rich in fiber.
You do know fiber works when processing sugar right ?
so if I add fiber to my heroin does that make heroine nutritious…because fiber?
I think you just need to stop, your argument is weak….0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
An addict will do anything in order to feed their addiction. If what you say is true, then sugar addicts would be stealing sweets from the store, stealing money to buy sweets, and digging sweets out of the trash.
It is not an addiction if it is selective.
The addict does not have to steal from the store. Food/drink with sugar is plentiful at the store and it is very, very low cost... so why would any one steal something that is everywhere ?
People do many things to feed that addiction... such as choosing to not eat healthy and instead eat foods that are heavy in sugar, not drink water and instead drink fountain soda after fountain soda, etc.
People are choosing to do that no doubt, but people also choose to do heroin, crack, and cocaine.
Comparing sugar to drugs is a false equivalence.
How so ?
They're both extremely addicting and will cause harm to your body up to resulting in death.
Association fallacy, you are saying that since sugar and heroin is both addictive, they are the same. They are not the same.0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
An addict will do anything in order to feed their addiction. If what you say is true, then sugar addicts would be stealing sweets from the store, stealing money to buy sweets, and digging sweets out of the trash.
It is not an addiction if it is selective.
The addict does not have to steal from the store. Food/drink with sugar is plentiful at the store and it is very, very low cost... so why would any one steal something that is everywhere ?
People do many things to feed that addiction... such as choosing to not eat healthy and instead eat foods that are heavy in sugar, not drink water and instead drink fountain soda after fountain soda, etc.
People are choosing to do that no doubt, but people also choose to do heroin, crack, and cocaine.
Comparing sugar to drugs is a false equivalence.
How so ?
They're both extremely addicting and will cause harm to your body up to resulting in death.
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
An addict will do anything in order to feed their addiction. If what you say is true, then sugar addicts would be stealing sweets from the store, stealing money to buy sweets, and digging sweets out of the trash.
It is not an addiction if it is selective.
The addict does not have to steal from the store. Food/drink with sugar is plentiful at the store and it is very, very low cost... so why would any one steal something that is everywhere ?
People do many things to feed that addiction... such as choosing to not eat healthy and instead eat foods that are heavy in sugar, not drink water and instead drink fountain soda after fountain soda, etc.
People are choosing to do that no doubt, but people also choose to do heroin, crack, and cocaine.
It's not readily available, no matter how cheap, if you have no money.
And thanks for leaving out the rest of what I said, regarding being "selectively" addicted to sugar, but only to certain brands or types. A true addict could not turn down a Mt. Dew just because they prefer Coke, or turn down carrot cake but eat a whole box of doughnuts.0
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