Fed Up Documentary
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I'm not going to read any sort of internet article.
You are so confident in your own personal beliefs so it is your job to convince me.
People are over weight because they choose to not eat healthy and not to exercise, but I also personally believe that sugar is addicting.
I am not understanding why you and the other couple of posters are getting so butt hurt about my opinion ?
That is the quote.
You can clearly see where I said "I personally believe"
You know that nutrition isn't a religion, right?0 -
I haven't seen an obese Thai yet.
We are talking refined sugar here.
Unfortunately we aren't even in the top 10 in countries that consume the most sugar.eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
So logically the top 10 countries that are "addicted" to sugar by consumption should also have higher obesity and health issues worse than the US. And guess what? They don't.
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I'm talking refined sugars.
Post me the article that shows 10 countries that consume more refined sugars than the US.
Not saying that it's impossible but I would think it's unlikely.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-sugar-consumer-countries.html
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That's not what I found...
And where does Brazil fall in the global obesity rankings?
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http://www.burning-bison.com/obesity.htm
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Who said it was ?I'm not going to read any sort of internet article.
You are so confident in your own personal beliefs so it is your job to convince me.
People are over weight because they choose to not eat healthy and not to exercise, but I also personally believe that sugar is addicting.
I am not understanding why you and the other couple of posters are getting so butt hurt about my opinion ?
That is the quote.
You can clearly see where I said "I personally believe"
You know that nutrition isn't a religion, right?
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »
They're actually quite good.SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It is my opinion that I am a billionaire.
So...what now...do I clap, or click my heels, or what?
that can be factually disproven.
Stop being a *kitten*.
But so can "sugar is addictive." So....YOU stop being a j*******!
My point is simply that refined sugar can be addictive. Some people resist the urge to pound their body with it and others do not. Those that do not are typically over weight and/or unhealthy.
Would you disagree ?
Yes, I would, in fact, disagree.
I am not "resisting the urge to pound my body" with that Hershey's bar which has been sitting out at work for the past 2 days, free for the taking. I don't care for Hershey bars. If it were Vosges, or even Lindor, I might be tempted.
...but you do resist the urge to pound 3 hershey bars every day of the week right ?
You misunderstand. There is no "urge" to resist. As I stated, I don't care for Hershey's. I find it repulsive.
Nope. Hershey's is inferior chocolate. I don't care how much sugar they put in it. Try some real chocolate.
The problem with most North American mass produced chocolate is that they use a lot of wax to preserve it. Now European and specialty chocolatiers are much better!0 -
SnuggleSmacks wrote: »
They're actually quite good.SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It is my opinion that I am a billionaire.
So...what now...do I clap, or click my heels, or what?
that can be factually disproven.
Stop being a *kitten*.
But so can "sugar is addictive." So....YOU stop being a j*******!
My point is simply that refined sugar can be addictive. Some people resist the urge to pound their body with it and others do not. Those that do not are typically over weight and/or unhealthy.
Would you disagree ?
Yes, I would, in fact, disagree.
I am not "resisting the urge to pound my body" with that Hershey's bar which has been sitting out at work for the past 2 days, free for the taking. I don't care for Hershey bars. If it were Vosges, or even Lindor, I might be tempted.
...but you do resist the urge to pound 3 hershey bars every day of the week right ?
You misunderstand. There is no "urge" to resist. As I stated, I don't care for Hershey's. I find it repulsive.
Nope. Hershey's is inferior chocolate. I don't care how much sugar they put in it. Try some real chocolate.
Godiva is good too.
Comparing chocolate is like comparing beer in a way.0 -
I haven't seen an obese Thai yet.
We are talking refined sugar here.
Unfortunately we aren't even in the top 10 in countries that consume the most sugar.eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
So logically the top 10 countries that are "addicted" to sugar by consumption should also have higher obesity and health issues worse than the US. And guess what? They don't.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I'm talking refined sugars.
Post me the article that shows 10 countries that consume more refined sugars than the US.
Not saying that it's impossible but I would think it's unlikely.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-sugar-consumer-countries.html
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
That's not what I found...
And where does Brazil fall in the global obesity rankings?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
http://www.burning-bison.com/obesity.htm
From your posted link:Working long hours, usually for six days each week, reduces peoples' ability and propensity to exercise. A similar situation applies with Thai children, whose school day is often drawn out with commuting and after-school tutoring. To make matters worse, most schools appear to place a low priority on sport and physical education. Little disposable income and often high levels of household debt mean that many are unable to afford to visit commercial recreation facilities such as modern gyms.
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »
They're actually quite good.SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It is my opinion that I am a billionaire.
So...what now...do I clap, or click my heels, or what?
that can be factually disproven.
Stop being a *kitten*.
But so can "sugar is addictive." So....YOU stop being a j*******!
My point is simply that refined sugar can be addictive. Some people resist the urge to pound their body with it and others do not. Those that do not are typically over weight and/or unhealthy.
Would you disagree ?
Yes, I would, in fact, disagree.
I am not "resisting the urge to pound my body" with that Hershey's bar which has been sitting out at work for the past 2 days, free for the taking. I don't care for Hershey bars. If it were Vosges, or even Lindor, I might be tempted.
...but you do resist the urge to pound 3 hershey bars every day of the week right ?
You misunderstand. There is no "urge" to resist. As I stated, I don't care for Hershey's. I find it repulsive.
Nope. Hershey's is inferior chocolate. I don't care how much sugar they put in it. Try some real chocolate.
Sorry but Reese's Cups are the tastiest candy in the world and I've had some expensive "classy" posh chocolates before. Nothing is better than a Reese's.0 -
Dang it! I stayed too long in this thread...all this sugar talk is getting to me...OP is MAKING ME eat pumpkin pie!!! Off I go!
(P.S. It's OK, really, I have the calories for it.)0 -
I haven't seen an obese Thai yet.
We are talking refined sugar here.
Unfortunately we aren't even in the top 10 in countries that consume the most sugar.eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
So logically the top 10 countries that are "addicted" to sugar by consumption should also have higher obesity and health issues worse than the US. And guess what? They don't.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I'm talking refined sugars.
Post me the article that shows 10 countries that consume more refined sugars than the US.
Not saying that it's impossible but I would think it's unlikely.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-sugar-consumer-countries.html
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
That's not what I found...
And where does Brazil fall in the global obesity rankings?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
http://www.burning-bison.com/obesity.htm
From your posted link:Working long hours, usually for six days each week, reduces peoples' ability and propensity to exercise. A similar situation applies with Thai children, whose school day is often drawn out with commuting and after-school tutoring. To make matters worse, most schools appear to place a low priority on sport and physical education. Little disposable income and often high levels of household debt mean that many are unable to afford to visit commercial recreation facilities such as modern gyms.
ok ?
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I haven't seen an obese Thai yet.
We are talking refined sugar here.
Unfortunately we aren't even in the top 10 in countries that consume the most sugar.eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
So logically the top 10 countries that are "addicted" to sugar by consumption should also have higher obesity and health issues worse than the US. And guess what? They don't.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I'm talking refined sugars.
Post me the article that shows 10 countries that consume more refined sugars than the US.
Not saying that it's impossible but I would think it's unlikely.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-sugar-consumer-countries.html
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
That's not what I found...
And where does Brazil fall in the global obesity rankings?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
http://www.burning-bison.com/obesity.htm
From your posted link:Working long hours, usually for six days each week, reduces peoples' ability and propensity to exercise. A similar situation applies with Thai children, whose school day is often drawn out with commuting and after-school tutoring. To make matters worse, most schools appear to place a low priority on sport and physical education. Little disposable income and often high levels of household debt mean that many are unable to afford to visit commercial recreation facilities such as modern gyms.
ok ?
You've been trying to prove that a country's sugar is directly responsible for obesity rates. There are more variables that you are overlooking.0 -
I haven't seen an obese Thai yet.
We are talking refined sugar here.
Unfortunately we aren't even in the top 10 in countries that consume the most sugar.eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
So logically the top 10 countries that are "addicted" to sugar by consumption should also have higher obesity and health issues worse than the US. And guess what? They don't.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I'm talking refined sugars.
Post me the article that shows 10 countries that consume more refined sugars than the US.
Not saying that it's impossible but I would think it's unlikely.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-sugar-consumer-countries.html
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
That's not what I found...
And where does Brazil fall in the global obesity rankings?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
http://www.burning-bison.com/obesity.htm
From your posted link:Working long hours, usually for six days each week, reduces peoples' ability and propensity to exercise. A similar situation applies with Thai children, whose school day is often drawn out with commuting and after-school tutoring. To make matters worse, most schools appear to place a low priority on sport and physical education. Little disposable income and often high levels of household debt mean that many are unable to afford to visit commercial recreation facilities such as modern gyms.
ok ?
You've been trying to prove that a country's sugar is directly responsible for obesity rates. There are more variables that you are overlooking.
All I did was post an article that talked about obese Thais. Had nothing to do with sugar at that point.
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I haven't seen an obese Thai yet.
We are talking refined sugar here.
Unfortunately we aren't even in the top 10 in countries that consume the most sugar.eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
So logically the top 10 countries that are "addicted" to sugar by consumption should also have higher obesity and health issues worse than the US. And guess what? They don't.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I'm talking refined sugars.
Post me the article that shows 10 countries that consume more refined sugars than the US.
Not saying that it's impossible but I would think it's unlikely.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-sugar-consumer-countries.html
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
That's not what I found...
And where does Brazil fall in the global obesity rankings?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
http://www.burning-bison.com/obesity.htm
From your posted link:Working long hours, usually for six days each week, reduces peoples' ability and propensity to exercise. A similar situation applies with Thai children, whose school day is often drawn out with commuting and after-school tutoring. To make matters worse, most schools appear to place a low priority on sport and physical education. Little disposable income and often high levels of household debt mean that many are unable to afford to visit commercial recreation facilities such as modern gyms.
ok ?
You've been trying to prove that a country's sugar is directly responsible for obesity rates. There are more variables that you are overlooking.
All I did was post an article that talked about obese Thais. Had nothing to do with sugar at that point.
That resulted from a discussion about the top 10 countries in the world for sugar intake and you attempting to link sugar intake to obesity so it had a lot to do with sugar at that point. How short is your memory?0 -
I haven't seen an obese Thai yet.
We are talking refined sugar here.
Unfortunately we aren't even in the top 10 in countries that consume the most sugar.eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
So logically the top 10 countries that are "addicted" to sugar by consumption should also have higher obesity and health issues worse than the US. And guess what? They don't.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I'm talking refined sugars.
Post me the article that shows 10 countries that consume more refined sugars than the US.
Not saying that it's impossible but I would think it's unlikely.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-sugar-consumer-countries.html
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
That's not what I found...
And where does Brazil fall in the global obesity rankings?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
http://www.burning-bison.com/obesity.htm
From your posted link:Working long hours, usually for six days each week, reduces peoples' ability and propensity to exercise. A similar situation applies with Thai children, whose school day is often drawn out with commuting and after-school tutoring. To make matters worse, most schools appear to place a low priority on sport and physical education. Little disposable income and often high levels of household debt mean that many are unable to afford to visit commercial recreation facilities such as modern gyms.
ok ?
You've been trying to prove that a country's sugar is directly responsible for obesity rates. There are more variables that you are overlooking.
All I did was post an article that talked about obese Thais. Had nothing to do with sugar at that point.
That resulted from a discussion about the top 10 countries in the world for sugar intake and you attempting to link sugar intake to obesity so it had a lot to do with sugar at that point. How short is your memory?
The guy said he has never seen an obese Thai.
I posted him a link to an article that talked about obese Thais.
You can try to make more out of it if you like.0 -
Abstract
Overweight and obesity are considered a serious health problem in Thailand. This study examined the prevalence of overweight and obesity in a nationally representative sample of Thai children and adults based on international standards. A cross-sectional population survey of 16,596 Thais aged 3 years and over was conducted. Heights and weights were obtained using standardized methods. Estimates of the overweight and obesity prevalence in children, adolescents, and adults were computed. The prevalence of overweight and obesity among children and adolescents aged 3 to 18 years was 7.6% and 9.0%, respectively, and was higher among boys than girls. Among adults, using the the Regional Office for the Western Pacific (WPRO) standard, 17.1% of adults were classified as overweight [body mass index (BMI) 23.0-24.9 kg/m²], 19.0% as class I obesity (BMI 25.0-29.9 kg/m²), and 4.8% as class II obesity (BMI ≥ 30.0 kg/m²). Using the World Health Organization (WHO) definition, 19.0% were overweight (BMI 25-29.9 kg/m²), 4.0% class I obesity (BMI 30.0-34.9 kg/m²), 0.8% class II obesity (BMI 35.0-39.9 kg/m²), and 0.1% class III obesity (BMI ≥ 40.0 kg/m²). There was a vast difference in obesity prevalence between the WHO and the WPRO criteria. Obesity prevalence when using the WPRO definition (23.8%) was almost five times greater than when defined with the WHO standard (4.9%). The present study found a high prevalence of overweight and obesity in nationally representative sample of the Thai population. Higher rates of overweight and obesity prevalence were computed using the WPRO standard when compared to the WHO standard.
PMID: 22526130 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/225261300 -
I haven't seen an obese Thai yet.
We are talking refined sugar here.
Unfortunately we aren't even in the top 10 in countries that consume the most sugar.eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
So logically the top 10 countries that are "addicted" to sugar by consumption should also have higher obesity and health issues worse than the US. And guess what? They don't.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I'm talking refined sugars.
Post me the article that shows 10 countries that consume more refined sugars than the US.
Not saying that it's impossible but I would think it's unlikely.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-sugar-consumer-countries.html
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
That's not what I found...
And where does Brazil fall in the global obesity rankings?
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
http://www.burning-bison.com/obesity.htm
From your posted link:Working long hours, usually for six days each week, reduces peoples' ability and propensity to exercise. A similar situation applies with Thai children, whose school day is often drawn out with commuting and after-school tutoring. To make matters worse, most schools appear to place a low priority on sport and physical education. Little disposable income and often high levels of household debt mean that many are unable to afford to visit commercial recreation facilities such as modern gyms.
ok ?
You've been trying to prove that a country's sugar is directly responsible for obesity rates. There are more variables that you are overlooking.
All I did was post an article that talked about obese Thais. Had nothing to do with sugar at that point.
That resulted from a discussion about the top 10 countries in the world for sugar intake and you attempting to link sugar intake to obesity so it had a lot to do with sugar at that point. How short is your memory?
The guy said he has never seen an obese Thai.
I posted him a link to an article that talked about obese Thais.
You can try to make more out of it if you like.
Would it not have been easier to simply post a picture of an obese Thai?
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Documentaries usually just highlight information that supports the point of view of the producer, writer, etc. It's rare that there are documentaries that are very well balanced.
That said, it's still going to boil down to calories in/out for the general population with no impending health issues for weight loss.
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vimeo.com/94976653
I just watched this doc for the first time this evening thanks to myfitnesspal post that was not sponsored by big business that seemed OK but your view of documentaries can be right on.
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uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »
They're actually quite good.SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It is my opinion that I am a billionaire.
So...what now...do I clap, or click my heels, or what?
that can be factually disproven.
Stop being a *kitten*.
But so can "sugar is addictive." So....YOU stop being a j*******!
My point is simply that refined sugar can be addictive. Some people resist the urge to pound their body with it and others do not. Those that do not are typically over weight and/or unhealthy.
Would you disagree ?
Yes, I would, in fact, disagree.
I am not "resisting the urge to pound my body" with that Hershey's bar which has been sitting out at work for the past 2 days, free for the taking. I don't care for Hershey bars. If it were Vosges, or even Lindor, I might be tempted.
...but you do resist the urge to pound 3 hershey bars every day of the week right ?
You misunderstand. There is no "urge" to resist. As I stated, I don't care for Hershey's. I find it repulsive.
Nope. Hershey's is inferior chocolate. I don't care how much sugar they put in it. Try some real chocolate.
Sorry but Reese's Cups are the tastiest candy in the world and I've had some expensive "classy" posh chocolates before. Nothing is better than a Reese's.
Another opinion. Quite far from anything resembling a fact.
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »
They're actually quite good.SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It is my opinion that I am a billionaire.
So...what now...do I clap, or click my heels, or what?
that can be factually disproven.
Stop being a *kitten*.
But so can "sugar is addictive." So....YOU stop being a j*******!
My point is simply that refined sugar can be addictive. Some people resist the urge to pound their body with it and others do not. Those that do not are typically over weight and/or unhealthy.
Would you disagree ?
Yes, I would, in fact, disagree.
I am not "resisting the urge to pound my body" with that Hershey's bar which has been sitting out at work for the past 2 days, free for the taking. I don't care for Hershey bars. If it were Vosges, or even Lindor, I might be tempted.
...but you do resist the urge to pound 3 hershey bars every day of the week right ?
You misunderstand. There is no "urge" to resist. As I stated, I don't care for Hershey's. I find it repulsive.
Nope. Hershey's is inferior chocolate. I don't care how much sugar they put in it. Try some real chocolate.
Sorry but Reese's Cups are the tastiest candy in the world and I've had some expensive "classy" posh chocolates before. Nothing is better than a Reese's.
Another opinion. Quite far from anything resembling a fact.
Nope, it is scientifically proven that Reese's Cups are the greatest of all time.0 -
I haven't seen an obese Thai yet.
We are talking refined sugar here.
Unfortunately we aren't even in the top 10 in countries that consume the most sugar.eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
So logically the top 10 countries that are "addicted" to sugar by consumption should also have higher obesity and health issues worse than the US. And guess what? They don't.
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I'm talking refined sugars.
Post me the article that shows 10 countries that consume more refined sugars than the US.
Not saying that it's impossible but I would think it's unlikely.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/world-top-ten-sugar-consumer-countries.html
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That's not what I found...
And where does Brazil fall in the global obesity rankings?
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http://www.burning-bison.com/obesity.htm
From your posted link:Working long hours, usually for six days each week, reduces peoples' ability and propensity to exercise. A similar situation applies with Thai children, whose school day is often drawn out with commuting and after-school tutoring. To make matters worse, most schools appear to place a low priority on sport and physical education. Little disposable income and often high levels of household debt mean that many are unable to afford to visit commercial recreation facilities such as modern gyms.
ok ?
You've been trying to prove that a country's sugar is directly responsible for obesity rates. There are more variables that you are overlooking.
All I did was post an article that talked about obese Thais. Had nothing to do with sugar at that point.
That resulted from a discussion about the top 10 countries in the world for sugar intake and you attempting to link sugar intake to obesity so it had a lot to do with sugar at that point. How short is your memory?
The guy said he has never seen an obese Thai.
I posted him a link to an article that talked about obese Thais.
You can try to make more out of it if you like.
Would it not have been easier to simply post a picture of an obese Thai?
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »
They're actually quite good.SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It is my opinion that I am a billionaire.
So...what now...do I clap, or click my heels, or what?
that can be factually disproven.
Stop being a *kitten*.
But so can "sugar is addictive." So....YOU stop being a j*******!
My point is simply that refined sugar can be addictive. Some people resist the urge to pound their body with it and others do not. Those that do not are typically over weight and/or unhealthy.
Would you disagree ?
Yes, I would, in fact, disagree.
I am not "resisting the urge to pound my body" with that Hershey's bar which has been sitting out at work for the past 2 days, free for the taking. I don't care for Hershey bars. If it were Vosges, or even Lindor, I might be tempted.
...but you do resist the urge to pound 3 hershey bars every day of the week right ?
You misunderstand. There is no "urge" to resist. As I stated, I don't care for Hershey's. I find it repulsive.
Nope. Hershey's is inferior chocolate. I don't care how much sugar they put in it. Try some real chocolate.
Seconded.
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uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »
They're actually quite good.SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It is my opinion that I am a billionaire.
So...what now...do I clap, or click my heels, or what?
that can be factually disproven.
Stop being a *kitten*.
But so can "sugar is addictive." So....YOU stop being a j*******!
My point is simply that refined sugar can be addictive. Some people resist the urge to pound their body with it and others do not. Those that do not are typically over weight and/or unhealthy.
Would you disagree ?
Yes, I would, in fact, disagree.
I am not "resisting the urge to pound my body" with that Hershey's bar which has been sitting out at work for the past 2 days, free for the taking. I don't care for Hershey bars. If it were Vosges, or even Lindor, I might be tempted.
...but you do resist the urge to pound 3 hershey bars every day of the week right ?
You misunderstand. There is no "urge" to resist. As I stated, I don't care for Hershey's. I find it repulsive.
Nope. Hershey's is inferior chocolate. I don't care how much sugar they put in it. Try some real chocolate.
Sorry but Reese's Cups are the tastiest candy in the world and I've had some expensive "classy" posh chocolates before. Nothing is better than a Reese's.
Another opinion. Quite far from anything resembling a fact.
Nope, it is scientifically proven that Reese's Cups are the greatest of all time.
POST YOUR SOURCES!
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That could depend what is in the ice-cream perhaps.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »
That could depend what is in the ice-cream perhaps.
I doubt it
ETA: under the assumption that it tastes good that is - you gotta have tasty ice cream, usually with lots of mix ins.
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »eatmindfully wrote: »I really don't like all the snark that's why I stay away from the forums. Stay positive and follow your own intuition and data about what makes you feel good. I started out on here 3 years ago eating a standard american diet. Now I'm a vegan and eat no processed foods or refined sugars and I feel so much better and my overall fitness has improved as well.
i would be curious what "data" you have that our society is somehow built around a sugar addiction, and what data you have about mentioned "sugar addiction"….
You don't think our society has a sugar addiction ?
no I don't…
society has an overeating/laziness problem…sugar has nothing to do with it.
I would argue that many people over eat in part because of the addiction to sugar.
When people sit and pound 8-12 sodas in a day they are doing it because they are craving that soda....they are craving that sugar.
I would say that at the end of the day it is still the person's fault because they are not strong enough to resist the addiction, but there is no doubt that it is in fact an addiction to sugar.
An addict will do anything in order to feed their addiction. If what you say is true, then sugar addicts would be stealing sweets from the store, stealing money to buy sweets, and digging sweets out of the trash. And it wouldn't be just certain sweets...it would be any sweets. People who claim to be addicted to sugar will put away an entire chocolate cake "because of their addiction" but turn down a carrot cake because it's not their favorite. They will eat a whole box of doughnuts, but have no problem saying no to a soda that, for example, is the store brand instead of a name brand.
It is not an addiction if it is selective.
With your logic then I was a sugar addict until two months ago because I would have eaten a whole carrot cake as fast as a chocolate cake.
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Wait...what happened to the insulin response and how sugar is responsible for the obesity 'epidemic' in Thailand and Brazil?0
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »uconnwinsnc1 wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »
They're actually quite good.SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It is my opinion that I am a billionaire.
So...what now...do I clap, or click my heels, or what?
that can be factually disproven.
Stop being a *kitten*.
But so can "sugar is addictive." So....YOU stop being a j*******!
My point is simply that refined sugar can be addictive. Some people resist the urge to pound their body with it and others do not. Those that do not are typically over weight and/or unhealthy.
Would you disagree ?
Yes, I would, in fact, disagree.
I am not "resisting the urge to pound my body" with that Hershey's bar which has been sitting out at work for the past 2 days, free for the taking. I don't care for Hershey bars. If it were Vosges, or even Lindor, I might be tempted.
...but you do resist the urge to pound 3 hershey bars every day of the week right ?
You misunderstand. There is no "urge" to resist. As I stated, I don't care for Hershey's. I find it repulsive.
Nope. Hershey's is inferior chocolate. I don't care how much sugar they put in it. Try some real chocolate.
Sorry but Reese's Cups are the tastiest candy in the world and I've had some expensive "classy" posh chocolates before. Nothing is better than a Reese's.
Another opinion. Quite far from anything resembling a fact.
Nope, it is scientifically proven that Reese's Cups are the greatest of all time.
POST YOUR SOURCES!
Nope.
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It's really sad to me that all these so-called "documentaries" and theories which point to an outside source (carbs, sugar, processed foods, meat, etc.) and blames that source for weight gain gets so many followers who are ready to embrace a crutch rather than take personal responsibility for their own actions. *sigh*
I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!
Are you trying to argue that there's nothing wrong with sugar ?
yes, I believe we are.
over consumption of calories leads to obesity….
you can get 100% of your diet from sugar, be in a deficit, and lose weight. Just google the twinkie diet….
there are no essential nutrients in sugar.
that has nothing to do with whether it is addictive or not ..
actually, the guy that did the twinkie diet lost weight and had better health markers….go figure…but you know, sugar...
This doc I watched tonight calls sugar toxic.
vimeo.com/94976653
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Wait...what happened to the insulin response and how sugar is responsible for the obesity 'epidemic' in Thailand and Brazil?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/09/health/beating-the-bulge-brazil-obesity/
What's it say in the black text box on the cover picture ?
I'll tell you..."access to processed foods".
I'm done debating this by the way. You believe what you want and I will do the same.
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It's really sad to me that all these so-called "documentaries" and theories which point to an outside source (carbs, sugar, processed foods, meat, etc.) and blames that source for weight gain gets so many followers who are ready to embrace a crutch rather than take personal responsibility for their own actions. *sigh*
I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!
Are you trying to argue that there's nothing wrong with sugar ?
yes, I believe we are.
over consumption of calories leads to obesity….
you can get 100% of your diet from sugar, be in a deficit, and lose weight. Just google the twinkie diet….
there are no essential nutrients in sugar.
Lol. None? It serves no benefit?
What benefit to your body does refined sugar have ?
Destroys your liver and teeth.
A quick source of energy?
Getting fat adapted freed me from needing a quick source of energy so no more lack of sugar crashes to deal with.
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SnuggleSmacks wrote: »It's really sad to me that all these so-called "documentaries" and theories which point to an outside source (carbs, sugar, processed foods, meat, etc.) and blames that source for weight gain gets so many followers who are ready to embrace a crutch rather than take personal responsibility for their own actions. *sigh*
I agree with your point about blaming others...but your argument is like saying there is nothing wrong with heroin, and in fact it should be legal so people, who can moderate their heroin usage, can do so at their leisure.
Are you REALLY comparing heroin to sugar, and are you suggesting that sugar should be illegal because people can't control themselves around it? The absurdity!
Are you trying to argue that there's nothing wrong with sugar ?
yes, I believe we are.
over consumption of calories leads to obesity….
you can get 100% of your diet from sugar, be in a deficit, and lose weight. Just google the twinkie diet….
there are no essential nutrients in sugar.
that has nothing to do with whether it is addictive or not ..
actually, the guy that did the twinkie diet lost weight and had better health markers….go figure…but you know, sugar...
We're talking sugar here... not specific foods that have other ingredients in them.
Refined sugar will spike your blood sugar and insulin level...has no fiber which will not make you full..like eating fruits will do.
So?
What happens when people eat and don't get full ?
Thanks for asking an easy one.
They eat MORE!
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