Getting into a calorie surplus can be hard for some
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I'm not sure if you guys will be able to access the link (I can't access the site right now), but I think this is it. I think it's considered plate or stack loaded (can't remember the difference between the two). http://catalog.impex-fitness.com/images/mwm1800.pdf
And remember, it's not just me and my family members, I trust Sara's expertise as well.
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ForecasterJason wrote: »I'm not sure if you guys will be able to access the link (I can't access the site right now), but I think this is it. I think it's considered plate or stack loaded (can't remember the difference between the two). http://catalog.impex-fitness.com/images/mwm1800.pdf
And remember, it's not just me and my family members, I trust Sara's expertise as well.
if it comes down to one machine or campus gym, I would go with the campus gym every time..
you are going to make way better progress if you are bench pressing, deadlifting, squatting,etc….0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »I'm not sure if you guys will be able to access the link (I can't access the site right now), but I think this is it. I think it's considered plate or stack loaded (can't remember the difference between the two). http://catalog.impex-fitness.com/images/mwm1800.pdf
And remember, it's not just me and my family members, I trust Sara's expertise as well.
That's a Wal-Mart special. Now, I do like the rear station with the captains chair, dip, and pullups but it's a massive waste of time for just about anything else.
Sara's program can help but there is no way to really make it what you really need it to be. Get to the campus gym and you'll be much happier.
ETA oh wait, the one with the dips and pullups is another model. The 1800 is just a waste of time.0 -
You have access to a campus gym and want to use ONE machine over it? Wow, I'm done, good luck guys with trying to convince him otherwise.0
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This whole thread is just full of sad.0
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While I'm still waiting for the program, I have decided that I will ramp up my own training program in the meantime. I'm thinking this should be enough volume to get some stimulation.
My new routine:
Mon - 3 sets bench press, 3 sets lat pulldown, 1 set reverse flyes, 2 sets bicep curls, 2 sets tricep extensions
Wed - 2 sets leg press, 2 sets leg curls, 1 set leg extension
Fri - Upper body repeat
Sun - Lower body repeat
Tue - Upper body repeat…0 -
That looks like it will take you 10-15 mins (5 mins on leg day!). I understand that you're waiting for a programme but in the meantime you could add a bit more volume. What about 3 sets on all those lifts or better yet, 5 sets. What are you really hoping to achieve with 1 set of reverse flyes, for example? I use that as an assistance exercise but I do 3 sets.0
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ForecasterJason wrote: »While I'm still waiting for the program, I have decided that I will ramp up my own training program in the meantime. I'm thinking this should be enough volume to get some stimulation.
My new routine:
Mon - 3 sets bench press, 3 sets lat pulldown, 1 set reverse flyes, 2 sets bicep curls, 2 sets tricep extensions
Wed - 2 sets leg press, 2 sets leg curls, 1 set leg extension
Fri - Upper body repeat
Sun - Lower body repeat
Tue - Upper body repeat…
Monday: 2 useful, 3 useless exercises
Wed - one semi useful two useless
Repeat spinning wheels or get to the gym.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »While I'm still waiting for the program, I have decided that I will ramp up my own training program in the meantime. I'm thinking this should be enough volume to get some stimulation.
My new routine:
Mon - 3 sets bench press, 3 sets lat pulldown, 1 set reverse flyes, 2 sets bicep curls, 2 sets tricep extensions
Wed - 2 sets leg press, 2 sets leg curls, 1 set leg extension
Fri - Upper body repeat
Sun - Lower body repeat
Tue - Upper body repeat…
Monday: 2 useful, 3 useless exercises
Wed - one semi useful two useless
Repeat spinning wheels or get to the gym.
this..
go to the campus gym and use ALL the weights...0 -
The set of reverse flyes is more so to make sure I don't get any forward rounding of my shoulders (I might already have a little). But since it sounds like this still wouldn't be enough volume for much growth, I will go ahead and make it 3 sets for all those upper body lifts.
As for legs, I think those three exercises are the only ones I can do the machine. I wanted to make sure my hamstrings get worked more than my quads (see this thread for the explanation http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10031889/hamstring-vs-quad-strength/p1 )
Do any of you think I could at least get 1 pound per month out of all this?0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »The set of reverse flyes is more so to make sure I don't get any forward rounding of my shoulders (I might already have a little). But since it sounds like this still wouldn't be enough volume for much growth, I will go ahead and make it 3 sets for all those upper body lifts.
As for legs, I think those three exercises are the only ones I can do the machine. I wanted to make sure my hamstrings get worked more than my quads (see this thread for the explanation http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10031889/hamstring-vs-quad-strength/p1 )
Do any of you think I could at least get 1 pound per month out of all this?
No.
ETA If you aren't doing the big compound exercises you won't be gaining weight very fast. Isolation exercises without compounds, unless you are a very advanced body builder, are a complete waste of gym time.0 -
So then it sounds like I'm still underestimating how much volume I need. At 3 sets of all upper body lifts in the 8-15 rep range, this would be between 48-90 reps of each exercise each week. Legs would be a little more if I make my rep range a little higher (which may be needed on something like leg curls given the 10 pound weight increments).Wheelhouse15 wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »The set of reverse flyes is more so to make sure I don't get any forward rounding of my shoulders (I might already have a little). But since it sounds like this still wouldn't be enough volume for much growth, I will go ahead and make it 3 sets for all those upper body lifts.
As for legs, I think those three exercises are the only ones I can do the machine. I wanted to make sure my hamstrings get worked more than my quads (see this thread for the explanation http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10031889/hamstring-vs-quad-strength/p1 )
Do any of you think I could at least get 1 pound per month out of all this?
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This whole thread is just full of sad.
It truly is. I don't think in the years I have been here and on BB that I have seen 1 individual make so many excuses while at the same time getting help from so many people that actually know their stuff. It's insane.
What's even more frustrating is the glimmer of hope he gives when he says "okay I'll do that" or whatever and a day later it's as if he never said it
Longest "trolling" thread I've seen on a forum in quite some time. Until he posts videos or photos of his results or suggestions put into action, I think this thread just needs to go away and not be spoken of again........
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ForecasterJason wrote: »The set of reverse flyes is more so to make sure I don't get any forward rounding of my shoulders (I might already have a little). But since it sounds like this still wouldn't be enough volume for much growth, I will go ahead and make it 3 sets for all those upper body lifts.
As for legs, I think those three exercises are the only ones I can do the machine. I wanted to make sure my hamstrings get worked more than my quads (see this thread for the explanation http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10031889/hamstring-vs-quad-strength/p1 )
Do any of you think I could at least get 1 pound per month out of all this?
If that's the case (shoulders rounding), get to your campus gym. A barbell's going to sort your posture right out whereas a machine is probably going to make it worse.
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This whole thread is just full of sad.
It truly is. I don't think in the years I have been here and on BB that I have seen 1 individual make so many excuses while at the same time getting help from so many people that actually know their stuff. It's insane.
What's even more frustrating is the glimmer of hope he gives when he says "okay I'll do that" or whatever and a day later it's as if he never said it
Longest "trolling" thread I've seen on a forum in quite some time. Until he posts videos or photos of his results or suggestions put into action, I think this thread just needs to go away and not be spoken of again........
Agreed, I think I've finally seen the light and I'm going to put the troll feed bag away and just walk away quietly.0 -
seriously, I am disengaging from this thread.0
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Well, essentially I'm now being told to ignore the advice of a well respected member on here.0
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ForecasterJason wrote: »Well, essentially I'm now being told to ignore the advice of a well respected member on here.
Nice try, but no.0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »Well, essentially I'm now being told to ignore the advice of a well respected member on here.
Mr. It's time to take a breather, step back, sort out your emotional side of things and how it might be holding you back. We are on your side, but I sense some very cool and generous people are getting annoyed with you now. Just get on with it, and make us happy in a few weeks when you've made progress and report back!
Your confidence will reach great heights, and the lifting will make your mind very strong too.
Good luck!0 -
I'm dead serious; I was told that big compounds are not necessary for good muscle gains.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »Well, essentially I'm now being told to ignore the advice of a well respected member on here.
Nice try, but no.
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Thanks, I will try.Springfield1970 wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »Well, essentially I'm now being told to ignore the advice of a well respected member on here.
Mr. It's time to take a breather, step back, sort out your emotional side of things and how it might be holding you back. We are on your side, but I sense some very cool and generous people are getting annoyed with you now. Just get on with it, and make us happy in a few weeks when you've made progress and report back!
Your confidence will reach great heights, and the lifting will make your mind very strong too.
Good luck!
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
I'm dead serious; I was told that big compounds are not necessary for good muscle gains.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »Well, essentially I'm now being told to ignore the advice of a well respected member on here.
Nice try, but no.
Then you misunderstand. Can you gain muscle without the big compound lifts? Yes. However, what would be better: A) your basement machine or B ) doing 3 full body workouts per week with the big 3 plus accessories at your campus gym? Answer B by a landslide. So choose option A) and in a year you will be here telling us you can't gain or choose B plus eat and make decent gains.
Also, ask her what she thinks you should do, A or B. Don't worry, we ALL know that answer she will give you.0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »
Thanks, I will try.Springfield1970 wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »Well, essentially I'm now being told to ignore the advice of a well respected member on here.
Mr. It's time to take a breather, step back, sort out your emotional side of things and how it might be holding you back. We are on your side, but I sense some very cool and generous people are getting annoyed with you now. Just get on with it, and make us happy in a few weeks when you've made progress and report back!
Your confidence will reach great heights, and the lifting will make your mind very strong too.
Good luck!
Great! You're Sooo lucky to have these mentors looking after you. You should have seen me kicking and screaming when everyone was shouting at me that I couldn't bulk without gaining some fat! I was in full blown panic and fear at that point. In the end bulking was one of the healthiest and empowering things I'd ever done.
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Springfield1970 wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
Thanks, I will try.Springfield1970 wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »Well, essentially I'm now being told to ignore the advice of a well respected member on here.
Mr. It's time to take a breather, step back, sort out your emotional side of things and how it might be holding you back. We are on your side, but I sense some very cool and generous people are getting annoyed with you now. Just get on with it, and make us happy in a few weeks when you've made progress and report back!
Your confidence will reach great heights, and the lifting will make your mind very strong too.
Good luck!
Great! You're Sooo lucky to have these mentors looking after you. You should have seen me kicking and screaming when everyone was shouting at me that I couldn't bulk without gaining some fat! I was in full blown panic and fear at that point. In the end bulking was one of the healthiest and empowering things I'd ever done.
Totally this!0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »
I'm dead serious; I was told that big compounds are not necessary for good muscle gains.Wheelhouse15 wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »Well, essentially I'm now being told to ignore the advice of a well respected member on here.
Nice try, but no.
Then find out FOR YOURSELF!
You are your own science experiment. I used to do loads of auxiliary exercises. Nah, then I discovered compound and I do an hour of them, heavy as I can. Much better results. But find your own way by getting IN THAT GYM.
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9 pages and how long? I could have gained 3-4 lbs by now.0
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OP - if you would of started eating and training on page one you could of put on five pounds by now....0
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