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Just think how pissed off the "clean eaters" are going to be 20 - 40 years from now (or whatever number gets them to the golden years) when they realize, it was all for nothing...
Actually you are wrong here. I'll explain why - once we leave certain foods from our diet we pretty much don't care about them.
I stopped eating ice cream when I was I think 14 - 15 years old. I would get severe chest congestion. The doc asked me to stop eating it for some time because they wanted to pin point the cause of these flares. Ice cream was the reason.
Anyway fast forward to 2015, I don't miss it one bit. It's been 28 years I haven't eaten ice cream.
I think most people would argue that giving up something for a medical reason isn't quite the same as giving up something because of the arbitrary "bad" label applied.
In any event, glad you figured out what the problem was!
Please refer to my response above. The question here is not about "bad food", "medical reasons", "clean whaatever". My response was to this statementJust think how pissed off the "clean eaters" are going to be 20 - 40 years from now (or whatever number gets them to the golden years) when they realize, it was all for nothing...
EDTA : Just to be clear where I stand w.r.t this thread. I don't think it was nice on OP's part to come to public forum and judge their friend's food diary to the world.
It was a made up situation actually. No friend has done that regularly. Sooo
So...you made this thread on false pretense. You made it all up. Eww! Now that's dirty (and not in a good way).0 -
bonnbunx36 wrote: »I kind of thought about this thread and am kind of becoming confused. I mean its obvious that fruits are better for you than cookies (ex), and if they both add to the same calories it wouldn't really matter what you ate if all you are trying do to lose weight. But if you are trying to become healthier then wouldn't you wanna eat fruits instead of the cookies? I mean, I ate a bunch of frosted flakes yesterday morning and I felt like garbage compared to when I ate oranges, apples, and other fruits. I mean I felt kind of sluggish and sugary. So.
I don't personally notice any difference in how I feel with or without cookies. I've eaten a diet that was mostly sugar and a diet that was mostly vegetables and felt the same. I choose to eat mostly whole foods with moderate treats because I believe it's better for health but just going by how I feel there's no difference for me.0 -
Just think how pissed off the "clean eaters" are going to be 20 - 40 years from now (or whatever number gets them to the golden years) when they realize, it was all for nothing...
Actually you are wrong here. I'll explain why - once we leave certain foods from our diet we pretty much don't care about them.
I stopped eating ice cream when I was I think 14 - 15 years old. I would get severe chest congestion. The doc asked me to stop eating it for some time because they wanted to pin point the cause of these flares. Ice cream was the reason.
Anyway fast forward to 2015, I don't miss it one bit. It's been 28 years I haven't eaten ice cream.
I think most people would argue that giving up something for a medical reason isn't quite the same as giving up something because of the arbitrary "bad" label applied.
In any event, glad you figured out what the problem was!
Please refer to my response above. The question here is not about "bad food", "medical reasons", "clean whaatever". My response was to this statementJust think how pissed off the "clean eaters" are going to be 20 - 40 years from now (or whatever number gets them to the golden years) when they realize, it was all for nothing...
EDTA : Just to be clear where I stand w.r.t this thread. I don't think it was nice on OP's part to come to public forum and judge their friend's food diary to the world.
It was a made up situation actually. No friend has done that regularly. Sooo
So basically your a liar and you were just trolling to start argument.
ETA: I don't believe you made it up. Just my 2 cents.0 -
Well I guess everyone is different...maybe there is just something wrong with me.ILiftHeavyAcrylics wrote: »bonnbunx36 wrote: »I kind of thought about this thread and am kind of becoming confused. I mean its obvious that fruits are better for you than cookies (ex), and if they both add to the same calories it wouldn't really matter what you ate if all you are trying do to lose weight. But if you are trying to become healthier then wouldn't you wanna eat fruits instead of the cookies? I mean, I ate a bunch of frosted flakes yesterday morning and I felt like garbage compared to when I ate oranges, apples, and other fruits. I mean I felt kind of sluggish and sugary. So.
I don't personally notice any difference in how I feel with or without cookies. I've eaten a diet that was mostly sugar and a diet that was mostly vegetables and felt the same. I choose to eat mostly whole foods with moderate treats because I believe it's better for health but just going by how I feel there's no difference for me.0 -
Just think how pissed off the "clean eaters" are going to be 20 - 40 years from now (or whatever number gets them to the golden years) when they realize, it was all for nothing...
Actually you are wrong here. I'll explain why - once we leave certain foods from our diet we pretty much don't care about them.
I stopped eating ice cream when I was I think 14 - 15 years old. I would get severe chest congestion. The doc asked me to stop eating it for some time because they wanted to pin point the cause of these flares. Ice cream was the reason.
Anyway fast forward to 2015, I don't miss it one bit. It's been 28 years I haven't eaten ice cream.
I think most people would argue that giving up something for a medical reason isn't quite the same as giving up something because of the arbitrary "bad" label applied.
In any event, glad you figured out what the problem was!
Please refer to my response above. The question here is not about "bad food", "medical reasons", "clean whaatever". My response was to this statementJust think how pissed off the "clean eaters" are going to be 20 - 40 years from now (or whatever number gets them to the golden years) when they realize, it was all for nothing...
EDTA : Just to be clear where I stand w.r.t this thread. I don't think it was nice on OP's part to come to public forum and judge their friend's food diary to the world.
It was a made up situation actually. No friend has done that regularly. Sooo
So basically your a liar and you were just trolling to start argument.
ETA: I don't believe you made it up. Just my 2 cents.
You think OP started feeling a bit guilty whenever everyone pointed out how judgmental the cookie dough comment was? Nah... According to all the other WKs in here she was just looking for support and like minded individuals... Why would she need to backpedal now?!
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Just think how pissed off the "clean eaters" are going to be 20 - 40 years from now (or whatever number gets them to the golden years) when they realize, it was all for nothing...
Actually you are wrong here. I'll explain why - once we leave certain foods from our diet we pretty much don't care about them.
I stopped eating ice cream when I was I think 14 - 15 years old. I would get severe chest congestion. The doc asked me to stop eating it for some time because they wanted to pin point the cause of these flares. Ice cream was the reason.
Anyway fast forward to 2015, I don't miss it one bit. It's been 28 years I haven't eaten ice cream.
I think most people would argue that giving up something for a medical reason isn't quite the same as giving up something because of the arbitrary "bad" label applied..
In any event, glad you figured out what the problem was!
Please refer to my response above. The question here is not about "bad food", "medical reasons", "clean whaatever". My response was to this statementJust think how pissed off the "clean eaters" are going to be 20 - 40 years from now (or whatever number gets them to the golden years) when they realize, it was all for nothing...
EDTA : Just to be clear where I stand w.r.t this thread. I don't think it was nice on OP's part to come to public forum and judge their friend's food diary to the world.
It was a made up situation actually. No friend has done that regularly. Sooo
What!!!! After all this, pretty low hon. Next time just light a fire.
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Just think how pissed off the "clean eaters" are going to be 20 - 40 years from now (or whatever number gets them to the golden years) when they realize, it was all for nothing...
Actually you are wrong here. I'll explain why - once we leave certain foods from our diet we pretty much don't care about them.
I stopped eating ice cream when I was I think 14 - 15 years old. I would get severe chest congestion. The doc asked me to stop eating it for some time because they wanted to pin point the cause of these flares. Ice cream was the reason.
Anyway fast forward to 2015, I don't miss it one bit. It's been 28 years I haven't eaten ice cream.
I think most people would argue that giving up something for a medical reason isn't quite the same as giving up something because of the arbitrary "bad" label applied.
In any event, glad you figured out what the problem was!
Please refer to my response above. The question here is not about "bad food", "medical reasons", "clean whaatever". My response was to this statementJust think how pissed off the "clean eaters" are going to be 20 - 40 years from now (or whatever number gets them to the golden years) when they realize, it was all for nothing...
EDTA : Just to be clear where I stand w.r.t this thread. I don't think it was nice on OP's part to come to public forum and judge their friend's food diary to the world.
It was a made up situation actually. No friend has done that regularly. Sooo
So basically your a liar and you were just trolling to start argument.
ETA: I don't believe you made it up. Just my 2 cents.
You think OP started feeling a bit guilty whenever everyone pointed out how judgmental the cookie dough comment was? Nah... According to all the other WKs in here she was just looking for support and like minded individuals... Why would she need to backpedal now?!
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Too soon?
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ForecasterJason wrote: »The thing is, everyone's standard for food is not the same, and I think that's why people on both sides aren't going to understand. What someone may think of as being fine to eat someone else may consider "bad" to eat. I mean, there were a couple instances I had 70% dark chocolate at breakfast. It wasn't even that much (less than an ounce), but a couple people (not on MFP) that knew I ate that thought that I shouldn't be doing that at breakfast.
i guess you still don't get it..
food is not good or bad, so there is no need to assign a moralistic value to it.
food is just energy that fuels your body, period, end of story.
Trans fats are bad.
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I'm trying to follow along with this thread... I really am. But...
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so you are saying that 100 calories of twinkies does not equal 100 calories of green beans?
This reminds me of the nutritionist who went on a Twinkies diet to lose 27 lbs.
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Oh Lordy...
My definition of clean might not be yours and vice versa.
Personally I don't really care what other people eat, and I'm certainly not going argue back and forth trying to make someone see MY point. Been there done that, because if someone feels passionately about something and they're convinced they're doing the right thing, then no amount of brow beating is going to change anything....
I'll make sure my backyard is perfect before dissecting and/or criticising someone else's
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I swear, this thread is proof that some of ya'll on mfp are bullies. SMH.0
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PrizePopple wrote: »I ate a whole pint of pistachio gelato last night. I might have to make some Diabeetus Cups in a few weeks. I'll buy organic and natural items to make it and call them "Clean Diabeetus Cups"
Funniest gif ever!
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christinev297 wrote: »Oh Lordy...
My definition of clean might not be yours and vice versa.
Personally I don't really care what other people eat, and I'm certainly not going argue back and forth trying to make someone see MY point. Been there done that, because if someone feels passionately about something and they're convinced they're doing the right thing, then no amount of brow beating is going to change anything....
I'll make sure my backyard is perfect before dissecting and/or criticising someone else's
Well, this is how I feel, and it's one reason I'd never get on a high horse and start slamming how others eat. I'm sure we all fail to live up to our own standards sometimes and feeling embarrassed or bad about that usually is not what leads to productive change. Instead, focusing logically and non emotionally on whether we are meeting our goals helps more. Good and bad associated with food is IMO counterproductive, although I have ideas about what a healthful diet (for me) looks like and sometimes think I could do better.
But I also accept that my ideas about how to eat aren't necessarily the same as my friends, so I won't start telling them that white flour is inconsistent with a good diet (it's obviously not, although FOR ME I do better minimizing it (not eliminating)). Same with other things that I choose not to eat lots of but might work for someone else in the context of their diets.
Of course, the discussion of what makes for a healthful diet isn't really what's wrong with OP's post--she and I may well have similar ideas about that, although I do think if she's going to be critical of someone else's diet it SHOULD be fair game to go through her diary and see what she does that's not what I consider ideal. I wouldn't do that, though, since it's rude and unhelpful and none of my business, since she's an adult and can evaluate her diet herself. What was terrible about her post was that she basically slammed her friends. I would have felt bad and embarrassed and betrayed if I were one of her friends (and I think I normally eat pretty well).
I'd love to hear from those arguing otherwise why any of these points are wrong, but I don't actually expect a response.
(Also, I'm on a plane! Just had to say that.)0 -
PrizePopple wrote: »
Too soon?
Too late!!! page one, second response!0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »The thing is, everyone's standard for food is not the same, and I think that's why people on both sides aren't going to understand. What someone may think of as being fine to eat someone else may consider "bad" to eat. I mean, there were a couple instances I had 70% dark chocolate at breakfast. It wasn't even that much (less than an ounce), but a couple people (not on MFP) that knew I ate that thought that I shouldn't be doing that at breakfast.
i guess you still don't get it..
food is not good or bad, so there is no need to assign a moralistic value to it.
food is just energy that fuels your body, period, end of story.
Trans fats are bad.
Correction, artificial trans fats are bad, natural occurring ones are not...0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »The thing is, everyone's standard for food is not the same, and I think that's why people on both sides aren't going to understand. What someone may think of as being fine to eat someone else may consider "bad" to eat. I mean, there were a couple instances I had 70% dark chocolate at breakfast. It wasn't even that much (less than an ounce), but a couple people (not on MFP) that knew I ate that thought that I shouldn't be doing that at breakfast.
i guess you still don't get it..
food is not good or bad, so there is no need to assign a moralistic value to it.
food is just energy that fuels your body, period, end of story.
Trans fats are bad.
Correction, artificial trans fats are bad, natural occurring ones are not...
what's the difference between artificial and natural? I thought trans fat was just trans fat, in any form.
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over 500 responses.
I should probably avoid this thread, right?0 -
I would like you all to know that tonight I will have ice cream made with foie gras.
I'm very excited.0
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