Absence Before Marriage
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I can't believe I posted that under deeluvly's post.
Pre marital sex is not a sin, except in the mind of religious nutters.
Delete her posts first, please.
Just so you know, everyone has a religion, so you might want to specify that "religious nutters" part unless you are including yourself in that category.0 -
I can't believe I posted that under deeluvly's post.
Pre marital sex is not a sin, except in the mind of religious nutters.
Delete her posts first, please.
Just so you know, everyone has a religion, so you might want to specify that "religious nutters" part unless you are including yourself in that category.
Not everyone has a religion my sister doesn't...0 -
I can't believe I posted that under deeluvly's post.
Pre marital sex is not a sin, except in the mind of religious nutters.
Delete her posts first, please.
Just so you know, everyone has a religion, so you might want to specify that "religious nutters" part unless you are including yourself in that category.
Just because you are religious doesn't make you a nut.0 -
I think people should talk about this more often. I thought it was okay because everybody said it was okay. I thought it was normal to have sex before marriage. I think everyone should always be reminded that it's a sin or else they will forget.
You are aware that this isn't a "christian nation", right?
Are you from Australia, too? haha
I wish.....actually, you guys have really scary spiders there, so maybe not. lol.
The spiders are nothing, it is the snakes you need to worry about.0 -
I can't believe I posted that under deeluvly's post.
Pre marital sex is not a sin, except in the mind of religious nutters.
Delete her posts first, please.
Just so you know, everyone has a religion, so you might want to specify that "religious nutters" part unless you are including yourself in that category.
Not everyone has a religion my sister doesn't...
Well if you think of a religion as following, living for, and obeying something (which most people do) then she does. If she doesn't have a deity she follows, she follows, lives for, and obeys herself, which is setting herself up as a God. So, thus, she does believe in one although she doesn't realize it! Kinda funny isn't it?0 -
I can't believe I posted that under deeluvly's post.
Pre marital sex is not a sin, except in the mind of religious nutters.
Delete her posts first, please.
Just so you know, everyone has a religion, so you might want to specify that "religious nutters" part unless you are including yourself in that category.
I do not think pre marital sex is a sin, therefore I am not a religious nutter.0 -
I'm with you there, it might look like a great car but a crap drive but that's my opinion you go with how you want to roll everyone is different that's what makes the world go round ????I need to test drive the car before I buy it.0 -
I don't like atheists. And they don't like me. Leave it at that.
So yeah.. I shouldn't have compared it to stealing. Stealing is less of a sin, IMHO.
Wow......I never said I didn't like you, but your attitude doesn't make you look like a very likeable person. Isn't it a sin to judge others in your religion? I guess you only pick and choose what to obey in your bible.0 -
I don't like atheists. And they don't like me. Leave it at that.
So yeah.. I shouldn't have compared it to stealing. Stealing is less of a sin, IMHO.
I was totally all about thinking that you were just expressing yourself and you should have just toned it down and been more polite about it until this. Stealing is a crime punishable by law...you used to get your hand cut off for that ****....Pretty sure that's a bit more serious. Like if someone came into your house and took your kids, that's still technically stealing although the law calls it something different, do you really think that's less of a sin? You'd really rather let that person get off with a slap on the wrist? Because the bible doesn't talk about kidnapping which would make taking a child...stealing a child...0 -
I don't like atheists. And they don't like me. Leave it at that.
So yeah.. I shouldn't have compared it to stealing. Stealing is less of a sin, IMHO.
Thank god you aren't your God, then. He doesn't have grades of sins,0 -
I don't like atheists. And they don't like me. Leave it at that.
So yeah.. I shouldn't have compared it to stealing. Stealing is less of a sin, IMHO.
HAHA you're great LOL0 -
I think if more people thought like the OP and a few others my paycheck would be bigger each week. Go ahead and attack me, I can take it.0
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Everyone. Okay so when you have kids encourage them to have sex before marriage. Good for you. at least youre "cool". Go away.
/smh
actually no. When I have kids I will encourage them to not do it until they are ready, whether that is before or after marriage is their personal choice. I WILL however make sure they are properly educated to ensure they practice safe sex when they decide to have sex0 -
I can't believe I posted that under deeluvly's post.
Pre marital sex is not a sin, except in the mind of religious nutters.
Delete her posts first, please.
Just so you know, everyone has a religion, so you might want to specify that "religious nutters" part unless you are including yourself in that category.
Not everyone has a religion my sister doesn't...
Well if you think of a religion as following, living for, and obeying something (which most people do) then she does. If she doesn't have a deity she follows, she follows, lives for, and obeys herself, which is setting herself up as a God. So, thus, she does believe in one although she doesn't realize it! Kinda funny isn't it?
Never really thought of it that way...thanks for that actually.0 -
I think people should talk about this more often. I thought it was okay because everybody said it was okay. I thought it was normal to have sex before marriage. I think everyone should always be reminded that it's a sin or else they will forget.
This is totally hypocritical of you, having done it yourself and now passing judgement on others. Doesn't the bible say something against that too?
I think the saying is "let he who is without sin throw the first stone".........or is it "judged not lest ye be judged"? Then again, some christians pick and choose what parts of their "rulebook" to follow and forget the rest.
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
Matthew 7:3-5 I thought you could appreciate that quote. I use it often when I see people passing judgement which is not theirs to pass.0 -
I don't like atheists. And they don't like me. Leave it at that.
So yeah.. I shouldn't have compared it to stealing. Stealing is less of a sin, IMHO.
Thank god you aren't your God, then. He doesn't have grades of sins,
There is actually a debate about this. True the Christian God's punishment for all sin was death, no matter how small it is, but I do think that there are different levels. For example I think that mass-murdering millions of people is a worse sin then speeding. They originally had the same punishment, but I don't think they are on the same level. There are a couple verses to this effect in the Bible in Matthew.0 -
I can't believe I posted that under deeluvly's post.
Pre marital sex is not a sin, except in the mind of religious nutters.
Delete her posts first, please.
Just so you know, everyone has a religion, so you might want to specify that "religious nutters" part unless you are including yourself in that category.
Not everyone has a religion my sister doesn't...
Well if you think of a religion as following, living for, and obeying something (which most people do) then she does. If she doesn't have a deity she follows, she follows, lives for, and obeys herself, which is setting herself up as a God. So, thus, she does believe in one although she doesn't realize it! Kinda funny isn't it?
Never really thought of it that way...thanks for that actually.
No prob I like thinking about stuff like that :P0 -
I don't like atheists. And they don't like me. Leave it at that.
So yeah.. I shouldn't have compared it to stealing. Stealing is less of a sin, IMHO.
That's fascinating. Where do you rank the rest of the commandments in comparison? I always figured the big man's top 10 were for sure the top 10.0 -
I don't like atheists. And they don't like me. Leave it at that.
So yeah.. I shouldn't have compared it to stealing. Stealing is less of a sin, IMHO.
Thank god you aren't your God, then. He doesn't have grades of sins,
There is actually a debate about this. True the Christian God's punishment for all sin was death, no matter how small it is, but I do think that there are different levels. For example I think that mass-murdering millions of people is a worse sin then speeding. They originally had the same punishment, but I don't think they are on the same level. There are a couple verses to this effect in the Bible in Matthew.
Is that right? So, how would we go about equating shagging next-door's younger son against, say, nicking some Mentos when
I picked up Dad's newspaper?0 -
Saying, "Waiting until marriage is a quality I value because it aligns with my religious believes" is different from saying, "everyone should wait because premarital sex is a sin."
Not really. It says exactly the same. They both express someone's belief and opinion of someone.
I udnerstand and adhere to the adege that it is not what you say, but how you say it. I also understand not everyone needs to articulate things in politaclly correct ways. Unless they serve in governement. Then they have to learn to generalize and avoid making a point while talking and using lots of clique words.
But again, I can believe premarital sex is a sin, i can be guilty of that sin, and I can express that opinion. But I am still not bad, judgemental, nor hypocritical. So says my farting rainbow unicorn, someone so elloquently paganized.
Personally, I LOVE sex.0 -
Mods must be napping.0
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I don't like atheists. And they don't like me. Leave it at that.
So yeah.. I shouldn't have compared it to stealing. Stealing is less of a sin, IMHO.
Thank god you aren't your God, then. He doesn't have grades of sins,
There is actually a debate about this. True the Christian God's punishment for all sin was death, no matter how small it is, but I do think that there are different levels. For example I think that mass-murdering millions of people is a worse sin then speeding. They originally had the same punishment, but I don't think they are on the same level. There are a couple verses to this effect in the Bible in Matthew.
Is that right? So, how would we go about equating shagging next-door's younger son against, say, nicking some Mentos when
I picked up Dad's newspaper?
I think that only God knows, since he's the one who made the laws. That is, if you are a Christian.0 -
Mods must be napping.
Or maybe people aren't hitting the report button and actually talking it out.0 -
I didn't wait but sometimes I wish I did. Or at least waited until I knew I was ready. I wasn't emotionally prepared for it or the aftermath. I think many girls can relate to that. It's not so much that I experience guilt for not following what the bible says as much as allowed it to lose meaning. To alter what it means even. I'm not saying that waiting would have changed that but at least then I would have been with someone who loves me and whom I love to help guide us through that experience.
It's different for everyone but I don't believe that virginity should be taken as lightly as it is now-a-days. I think everyone should just really take the time to make that decision and not allow their libidos or the other person to make that choice for them.
That's just my experiences forming my opinion right there.
Edited to add: When I have kids I'm not going to necessarily encourage abstinence but I am going to emphasize how important it is to wait for the right person and the right time in their life. It's not to be taken lightly and given thoughtlessly and that I will love them no matter what they decide and then encourage them to talk to me about it when they feel they are ready so that we can make sure she is prepared emotionally and with birth control. I don't want my daughter feeling shame for sex nor do I want her devaluing her virginity.0 -
Everyone. Okay so when you have kids encourage them to have sex before marriage. Good for you. at least youre "cool". Go away.
They're going to do what they want regardless. At least my kids will know about birth control and condoms and come to me when they need me without worrying about my judgement or disapproval. I wouldn't encourage kids having kids... but I won't encourage kids getting married just to have sex either. I tell my daughter to focus on education, not boys and when she has a degree she can then figure out if she wants a relationship or a family. Notice how marriage or sex wasn't mentioned? She's 11.
If you don't know what you're missing, good for you. Many of us love sex and imagining life with the wrong partner and a possibly unsatisfying sex life sounds like doom and gloom.0 -
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I didn't wait but sometimes I wish I did. Or at least waited until I knew I was ready. I wasn't emotionally prepared for it or the aftermath. I think many girls can relate to that. It's not so much that I experience guilt for not following what the bible says as much as allowed it to lose meaning. To alter what it means even. I'm not saying that waiting would have changed that but at least then I would have been with someone who loves me and whom I love to help guide us through that experience.
It's different for everyone but I don't believe that virginity should be taken as lightly as it is now-a-days. I think everyone should just really take the time to make that decision and not allow their libidos or the other person to make that choice for them.
That's just my experiences forming my opinion right there.
I agree. I think that that is something they should be teaching more when sitting kids down and telling them about sex. Sure it's great to teach about safe sex and all of that, but most schools just want to yell that not having sex is the best way and some parents would rather rely on the schools. It's just important to make sure they realize they can wait until they're ready, no matter how long that takes and NO MATTER their gender. Sometimes I feel like guys get more pressure to be having sex, even if some of might have wanted to wait their friends might make them feel uncool. I don't know if that even makes sense...but a lot of people are making just statements about females and them waiting and feeling pressured, it can go both ways0 -
It's not something I chose, I've been living with my partner for 3 years (together for 7) and while we'd like to get married, I've got other things I'd like to prioritize first - such as getting on the property ladder with him! The only thing I'm saving specifically for after marriage is the children, that's just a personal decision of ours - I don't judge others who choose differently. You can have commitment and security without a document saying you're husband and wife.
However, I would date someone who wanted to wait, if I liked them enough ("enough" meaning a hell of a lot!)0 -
I personally think you need to find out if you're compatible in EVERY way...hell..if I waited till I married someone and then found out they had a small ****, I'd be seriously pissed off.
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I don't like atheists. And they don't like me. Leave it at that.
So yeah.. I shouldn't have compared it to stealing. Stealing is less of a sin, IMHO.
Thank god you aren't your God, then. He doesn't have grades of sins,
There is actually a debate about this. True the Christian God's punishment for all sin was death, no matter how small it is, but I do think that there are different levels. For example I think that mass-murdering millions of people is a worse sin then speeding. They originally had the same punishment, but I don't think they are on the same level. There are a couple verses to this effect in the Bible in Matthew.
Is that right? So, how would we go about equating shagging next-door's younger son against, say, nicking some Mentos when
I picked up Dad's newspaper?
I think that only God knows, since he's the one who made the laws. That is, if you are a Christian.
Damn, I thought you were going to provide insight.
So, to the followers of the Christian god, pre marital sex is the same as cheating on your taxes.0
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