Was really fat. Now less fat. Stuck being less fat. So why?
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UltimateRBF wrote: »These seems to be a thing people don't talk about much. You see plenty of people who are 5lbs from goal freaking out because they can't lose the last 5lbs. You also see plenty of people lining up to help them, especially if the OP is a woman nearing tiny bikini progress photo status. You don't see a lot of explanations of why someone heavy who's lost weight but is stuck still pretty heavy can't lose weight. So, ideas? Anything logical? I used to weigh 365lbs. Lost to 230 not even counting calories accurately (estimates). Went off my low carb plan. Gained to 250. Counted calories down to 230. Stuck again. Cut calories down to a bonkers starving 1800. Lost some. Then boom, back up over one week.
Here's the graph: https://trendweight.com/u/f8ef80f0071149/
So, anyone else experience this? Any advice? Yeah yeah. Go to the doctor. I'm squeezing an appointment in Thursday but I am experience no other health related symptoms other than the complete inability to lose weight and actually eat a human sized amount of food.
You use this line all the time. a) it's incorrect and b) it belies what a bitter sexist you are.
You don't get the answers you want because you shoot down and make excuses for every suggestion and help people offer. You have easily the worst attitude of any regular poster I've ever seen and until you work on that first and foremost very little is going to change for you. I don't know why anyone bothers to help you anymore.
Oh and I reported this thread for trolling.
Spot on.
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UltimateRBF wrote: »
And exercising consistently.
And applying himself consistently.
And realizing it takes effort consistently.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »
So he's just been picking up the same weights for years? What would be the point of lifting if you're not going to increase your weight?
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
So he's just been picking up the same weights for years? What would be the point of lifting if you're not going to increase your weight?
Well not exactly but some people don't know when you progress in weight. There was a thread about that today with someone lifting 12 reps then got to 25 reps asking when to increase weight. This poster has a trainer too. So with that said it won't surprise me to see a do your own program not really go anywhere in weight.
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
So he's just been picking up the same weights for years? What would be the point of lifting if you're not going to increase your weight?
What's the point of him asking for advice if he's never going to follow it?
I think his workout program is: 1 rep of writing post asking for advice, 5 reps refuting advice, 8 reps comparing himself to others, rest.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
So he's just been picking up the same weights for years? What would be the point of lifting if you're not going to increase your weight?
Well not exactly but some people don't know when you progress in weight. There was a thread about that today with someone lifting 12 reps then got to 25 reps asking when to increase weight. This poster has a trainer too. So with that said it won't surprise me to see a do your own program not really go anywhere in weight.
Ah, gotcha.0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
So he's just been picking up the same weights for years? What would be the point of lifting if you're not going to increase your weight?
What's the point of him asking for advice if he's never going to follow it?
I think his workout program is: 1 rep of writing post asking for advice, 5 reps refuting advice, 8 reps comparing himself to others, rest.
Agreed.
He probably cools down with more whining.0 -
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Sunny_Bunny_ wrote: »Regarding not being able to the exercises or not very many of them. I understand how you might think that if you're not doing all of them to their fullest that it's not going to help. I have just started working on strength training myself. Literally. Like I'm 1 day in. I've searched for some 30 minute beginner workouts on YouTube and was all excited when I started today. I quickly got to a point, about 2 minutes in, so right after the warm up pretty much, where I couldn't keep up with the video. So instead of stopping and getting no benefit at all, I altered what I saw into something that still worked the muscles and that I could continue in the video. I completed the 30 minutes completely winded and with my heart pounding. So I know that even my half-assed versions were working my body in a way that will be beneficial and as I continue I expect to be able to complete the moves at the full level in time. I'm not worried how long it takes. I'm only concerned about completing it as often as I need to each week.
There would be 2 minutes of cardio between different things. Those would be something like a lunge then hop to the other leg and then lunge with that leg and hop back again. I couldn't keep up with the hop in it. I had to switch from each lunge just by stepping into it. And after a couple, I couldn't go down as far as I was supposed to. So I just did what I could where I still felt my muscles burning.
I couldn't do the side planks at all. I absolutely could not lift my hips off the floor. So I stayed in that position and with each lift, I just gave my best effort at lifting. I didn't get off the floor, but I could feel the muscles working trying to do it.
There were many other ways I had to adapt this beginners workout to my current abilities including doing fewer reps and I am not one bit embarrassed about it because I saw it through. And I will do it again and again for as long as it takes.
He already knows all this. His past threads have demonstrated the fact that he wants to BE THERE. He doesn't want to work to get there.
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
So he's just been picking up the same weights for years? What would be the point of lifting if you're not going to increase your weight?
Well not exactly but some people don't know when you progress in weight. There was a thread about that today with someone lifting 12 reps then got to 25 reps asking when to increase weight. This poster has a trainer too. So with that said it won't surprise me to see a do your own program not really go anywhere in weight.
Ah, gotcha.
Also I wasted my newbie lifting stage when I started. Did i increase in weight. Of course I did. I did stall out a lot on the way and didn't know about deloads. So yes it can happen. That my guess for OP lifting program. A made up by the user program with little results.
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Are you kidding me? So if a 5'5 man at 40% body fat that sits on his *kitten* all day would need more calories than 1800? You full specs before you spit out your opinion about how much calories should be taken in daily! If he was 230 pound at 6% BF I'd agree but seriously? Lack full information on the person you can't make assumptions like that.
Check yourself, dude.
Usmcmp, first of all knows her stuff. She's also been 'round the block a time or two or twelve with this OP before until she's blue in the face. She knows his specs.
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
So he's just been picking up the same weights for years? What would be the point of lifting if you're not going to increase your weight?
What's the point of him asking for advice if he's never going to follow it?
I think his workout program is: 1 rep of writing post asking for advice, 5 reps refuting advice, 8 reps comparing himself to others, rest.
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PeachyCarol wrote: »
Are you kidding me? So if a 5'5 man at 40% body fat that sits on his *kitten* all day would need more calories than 1800? You full specs before you spit out your opinion about how much calories should be taken in daily! If he was 230 pound at 6% BF I'd agree but seriously? Lack full information on the person you can't make assumptions like that.
Check yourself, dude.
Usmcmp, first of all knows her stuff. She's also been 'round the block a time or two or twelve with this OP before until she's blue in the face. She knows his specs.
Usmcmp knows a whole lot, more than most on this board, and has been really kind in sharing it with the OP.0 -
PeachyCarol wrote: »
Are you kidding me? So if a 5'5 man at 40% body fat that sits on his *kitten* all day would need more calories than 1800? You full specs before you spit out your opinion about how much calories should be taken in daily! If he was 230 pound at 6% BF I'd agree but seriously? Lack full information on the person you can't make assumptions like that.
Check yourself, dude.
Usmcmp, first of all knows her stuff. She's also been 'round the block a time or two or twelve with this OP before until she's blue in the face. She knows his specs.
Usmcmp knows a whole lot, more than most on this board, and has been really kind in sharing it with the OP.
Far kinder than he deserves IMHO.0 -
Saw this recently, seems appropriate.
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PeachyCarol wrote: »
Are you kidding me? So if a 5'5 man at 40% body fat that sits on his *kitten* all day would need more calories than 1800? You full specs before you spit out your opinion about how much calories should be taken in daily! If he was 230 pound at 6% BF I'd agree but seriously? Lack full information on the person you can't make assumptions like that.
Check yourself, dude.
Usmcmp, first of all knows her stuff. She's also been 'round the block a time or two or twelve with this OP before until she's blue in the face. She knows his specs.
Usmcmp knows a whole lot, more than most on this board, and has been really kind in sharing it with the OP.
I'm not THAT smart, I just try to make the advice reasonable. No sense in giving someone an ideal set up if it is something they can't follow. Practical advice wins.0 -
PeachyCarol wrote: »
Are you kidding me? So if a 5'5 man at 40% body fat that sits on his *kitten* all day would need more calories than 1800? You full specs before you spit out your opinion about how much calories should be taken in daily! If he was 230 pound at 6% BF I'd agree but seriously? Lack full information on the person you can't make assumptions like that.
Check yourself, dude.
Usmcmp, first of all knows her stuff. She's also been 'round the block a time or two or twelve with this OP before until she's blue in the face. She knows his specs.
Usmcmp knows a whole lot, more than most on this board, and has been really kind in sharing it with the OP.
Cosigned.
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PeachyCarol wrote: »
Are you kidding me? So if a 5'5 man at 40% body fat that sits on his *kitten* all day would need more calories than 1800? You full specs before you spit out your opinion about how much calories should be taken in daily! If he was 230 pound at 6% BF I'd agree but seriously? Lack full information on the person you can't make assumptions like that.
Check yourself, dude.
Usmcmp, first of all knows her stuff. She's also been 'round the block a time or two or twelve with this OP before until she's blue in the face. She knows his specs.
Usmcmp knows a whole lot, more than most on this board, and has been really kind in sharing it with the OP.
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thesupremeforce wrote: »Yeah, that's why everyone has headless pictures of their abs. And I said weight, not looks. Weight affects how you look, the clothes you can buy/fit in, and even the exercises you can do. Running at 200lbs is easier than 230. Biking. Pull-ups. Stamina. Even down to the amount of muscle you can build. Why is everyone trying to be 10% body fat? So they can bulk.
Some of these are lame excuses. The ability to run or do pull-ups isn't determined by how much you weigh. If you want to run, go run. If you want to do pull-ups, work on doing pull-ups. You don't do pull-ups by waiting until you get "light enough" and you certainly don't do them by crying about being too heavy. Get stronger.
I didn't say I don't run or can't. I said it will be easier. I'd be fast. My pace would be better. I'd be able to go for longer. And "get stronger" is another vague piece of advice. OK. So how specifically? If I can't lift myself I can't lift myself. It's not going to magically happen.
This is information that literally took me less than a minute to find once I decided to stop making excuses (I couldn't do pull-ups at 270 lbs, nor could I do them at 190 lbs, because that's not how it works), got off my *kitten*, and did something about it.0 -
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So you do a program and not follow it. You are aware that Wendler says to not do that right?yopeeps025 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
So he's just been picking up the same weights for years? What would be the point of lifting if you're not going to increase your weight?
Well not exactly but some people don't know when you progress in weight. There was a thread about that today with someone lifting 12 reps then got to 25 reps asking when to increase weight. This poster has a trainer too. So with that said it won't surprise me to see a do your own program not really go anywhere in weight.
Ah, gotcha.
Also I wasted my newbie lifting stage when I started. Did i increase in weight. Of course I did. I did stall out a lot on the way and didn't know about deloads. So yes it can happen. That my guess for OP lifting program. A made up by the user program with little results.
Nah, I do 5/3/1. I use the Wendlerized app for it (Android, not sure if it's on iOS). It's a basic program but I'm looking for basic result. Look a little better. Get a little stronger. Lose a little weight. I'm not training for contest prep or whatever. I'm trying to end up 200lbs 20% body fat. I do the periodization template for the accessories. I leave out the squat day. Hurts my knees and I never made great progress so I just ride my bike one day extra instead following the "do something you enjoy" philosophy of exercise or some weeks just do a second deadlift day. I only have the bench, bars, and power tower to work with. I don't have access to cable machines etc.
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If squats hurt your knees, you're doing them wrong.
I have Psoriatic Arthritis, and I do squats. My knees are one of my worst joints, btw. I've done 100 squats in one day with resistance bands to correct a problem with my form that I have when I do them with weights.
Stop making excuses.0 -
If squats hurt your knees, you're doing them wrong.
I have Psoriatic Arthritis, and I do squats. My knees are one of my worst joints, btw. I've done 100 squats in one day with resistance bands to correct a problem with my form that I have when I do them with weights.
Stop making excuses.0 -
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Omg! I love this!0 -
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