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azulvioleta6 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »White Lightning in the UK is cider and teenage regrets.
It's so true. My brand was White Star (I assume it was a knock off), plus Richmond Menthol Superkings. Yuck!
Someone earlier said they need to find a way to make mac and cheese sound fancy... In the UK it's called macaroni cheese
Scone is of course pronounced to rhyme with cone, the meal order is breakfast, lunch and dinner, but more importantly, what's the correct term for a bread roll? Roll, barm, barmcake, cob, scuffler? (Obvs roll)
That's better than what the Canadians call it: Kraft Lunch (what if I eat it for breakfast???) and they put ketchup on it!! What???
ETA: and if it's a small round loaf of bread, it's a roll and they serve them at steak houses.
Steakhouse: Rolls with/before your meal
BBQ joint: Sweet Cornbread muffins with/before your meal
Granny's Country Kitchen: Biscuits with/before your meal
It is called Kraft DINNER in Canada.
That's what the Barenaked Ladies call it in the song "If I Had a Million Dollars"
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Dear English Cousins,
Many Americans have, in fact, watched a movie or two. Some of us have read books, including the classics. Lots of these are required reading in public high school. Our children know about Harry Potter. We understand about jumpers and trainers and chips and crisps.
Some of us are even capable of using Google if we forget how many pounds are in a stone.
Among my friends, there is great sadness right now about Alan Rickman and David Bowie. Our cultures are connected; there is more understanding than misunderstanding...really!1 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »I just want to go to that hotel rabbitjb posted a picture of (afternoon tea picture).
Not because I think I would like afternoon tea. I just want to sit around and soak up all the posh.
That one is in Soho and also has a private cinema .. we went to see Elf before Christmas there .. cos Christmas traditions must be upheld and Elf is one of ours
I love afternoon tea in proper hotels - sandwiches in small strips with no crusts, bone china (know what it is now?), efficient, polite and reserved service .. get on with you and your 'have a nice days'
also your gravy looks horrible .. sorry .. wouldn't!
But if you ever tried it...:)
I described our breakfast gravy to someone from Canada once on another forum (because I'm multifaceted) and she said that they have it but call it "white sauce."
It really is some amazing deliciousness. A thousand times more tasty than its bland appearance suggests.
Don't implicate Canada in that sludge! I'm Canadian and we do not have that where I'm from (well, we have it without the sausage, but I've never seen it not called béchamel as it should be), which is good because it's disgusting. I will never understand. I tried it in the States and was just like "seriously guys? This is what you go on about?"
But if you like bechamel (I don't know how to type the accent thing) and you like sausage...why not together?
Well, first, béchamel isn't normally glopped onto bread products by cupfuls, second, I really only use it as a base to add flavour to (not sausage, because it's plenty rich enough as it is without adding meat to...it's one of the classic French mother sauces though so I'll make it occasionally as a base), third, sausage is not high on my list of meat products worth eating, and fourth, I also like hot sauce and sugar cookies but I don't eat them together.
I think biscuits and gravy pretty much tastes and looks like a pile of paste. Some Southern cooking is excellent (although I wish, um, y'all would lay off the lard/shortening and the stuff from cans), but this one just baffles me totally.
Fair enough, to each his own.
The bold: you mean you don't like potted meat or vienna sausages? lol0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »Okay, scrolled up thread and found someone saying clotted cream=custard. nvm people I am learning how to read.
it is not custard
it's a very, very, very thick cream .. thicker than whipped
Yes ...
Terrapin, think kind of in between whipped cream and butter but leaning more to the whipped cream side. It never gets hard in the refrigerator, but it's more solid than whipped cream. Clotted cream is never whipped at all. Usually it's less sweet than whipped cream in the U.S., too.
I love clotted cream. I was introduced to it when I was a little kid by a family friend who'd emigrated from Trinidad, if I remember correctly. I remember her spooning it out of a can and it just looked awful to me - yellowish and kind of gloppy. The stuff I see these days is much more visually appealing. Tastes the same, though!
I'm thinking I could get behind this.
It almost sounds like a soft cream cheese.
In texture, that's a lot closer to what it's like than whipped cream, although in flavour I'd say it's kind of partway between whipped cream and straight up butter. I like it the once a year or so my mother and I do high tea somewhere but I'd say it's definitely a sometimes food, in the immortal words of Cookie Monster.
Then yeah, that's something I could probably get behind.0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »White Lightning in the UK is cider and teenage regrets.
It's so true. My brand was White Star (I assume it was a knock off), plus Richmond Menthol Superkings. Yuck!
Someone earlier said they need to find a way to make mac and cheese sound fancy... In the UK it's called macaroni cheese
Scone is of course pronounced to rhyme with cone, the meal order is breakfast, lunch and dinner, but more importantly, what's the correct term for a bread roll? Roll, barm, barmcake, cob, scuffler? (Obvs roll)
That's better than what the Canadians call it: Kraft Lunch (what if I eat it for breakfast???) and they put ketchup on it!! What???
ETA: and if it's a small round loaf of bread, it's a roll and they serve them at steak houses.
Steakhouse: Rolls with/before your meal
BBQ joint: Sweet Cornbread muffins with/before your meal
Granny's Country Kitchen: Biscuits with/before your meal
It is called Kraft DINNER in Canada.
Is someone making fun of Kraft Dinner!? Someone is going to get stabbed!!!!1 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »I don't actually EAT commercially made scones, but I see them just about everywhere. I was thinking about it, and in the last few days I have seen scones at:
-Costco
-college cafeteria
-tiny college coffee stand
-Fred Meyer (Kroger)
-hospital cafeteria
-local coffee house (Stumptown)
-gas station
In the Pacific Northwest, you would have to be willfully trying to avoid them to not have any idea what they are.
I ate one yesterday, only because my mother made it and she insisted. Slightly sweet, but not very. My mother is most definitely NOT English.
I live over 2,000 miles away from the Pacific Northwest. I'm sure there are several things you see or eat on a regular basis that I'm not exposed to and vice versa.
You still have Starbucks, and Dunkin Donuts...aren't there scones at DD?
Even if you live in a part of the US where cafe culture is lacking, there are still scones all around you.
We covered that already.
As for DD, if I go there (not often at all), I'm getting a mixed dozen from the drive through.
Why does it bother you so much that I didn't know what a scone was (though I had heard of them).
I also didn't know what Gyros were until a couple years ago even though I see signs all over for "So and So's Chili and Gyros."0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »White Lightning in the UK is cider and teenage regrets.
It's so true. My brand was White Star (I assume it was a knock off), plus Richmond Menthol Superkings. Yuck!
Someone earlier said they need to find a way to make mac and cheese sound fancy... In the UK it's called macaroni cheese
Scone is of course pronounced to rhyme with cone, the meal order is breakfast, lunch and dinner, but more importantly, what's the correct term for a bread roll? Roll, barm, barmcake, cob, scuffler? (Obvs roll)
That's better than what the Canadians call it: Kraft Lunch (what if I eat it for breakfast???) and they put ketchup on it!! What???
ETA: and if it's a small round loaf of bread, it's a roll and they serve them at steak houses.
Steakhouse: Rolls with/before your meal
BBQ joint: Sweet Cornbread muffins with/before your meal
Granny's Country Kitchen: Biscuits with/before your meal
It is called Kraft DINNER in Canada.
They still put ketchup on it.0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »Dear English Cousins,
Many Americans have, in fact, watched a movie or two. Some of us have read books, including the classics. Lots of these are required reading in public high school. Our children know about Harry Potter. We understand about jumpers and trainers and chips and crisps.
Some of us are even capable of using Google if we forget how many pounds are in a stone.
Among my friends, there is great sadness right now about Alan Rickman and David Bowie. Our cultures are connected; there is more understanding than misunderstanding...really!
What is your problem? This thread was 100% goofing around, having fun and talking about cultural foods.
Then you came in all uptight with your nose in the air and messed it up. Get over yourself.
Let's see I can google jumpers and get search results about sweaters or I can engage in a fun, enlightening and enjoyable conversation with some really cool, fun people. I choose the latter.
Brits, did I offend any of you for not knowing some things about your culture or have you enjoyed this lighthearted thread as much as I have?2 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Dear English Cousins,
Many Americans have, in fact, watched a movie or two. Some of us have read books, including the classics. Lots of these are required reading in public high school. Our children know about Harry Potter. We understand about jumpers and trainers and chips and crisps.
Some of us are even capable of using Google if we forget how many pounds are in a stone.
Among my friends, there is great sadness right now about Alan Rickman and David Bowie. Our cultures are connected; there is more understanding than misunderstanding...really!
What is your problem? This thread was 100% goofing around, having fun and talking about cultural foods.
Then you came in all uptight with your nose in the air and messed it up. Get over yourself.
Let's see I can google jumpers and get search results about sweaters or I can engage in a fun, enlightening and enjoyable conversation with some really cool, fun people. I choose the latter.
Brits, did I offend any of you for not knowing some things about your culture or have you enjoyed this lighthearted thread as much as I have?
Not at all. We'd still like to discuss the tea thing in Boston though...someone made a mess in the harbour.2 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »Dear English Cousins,
Many Americans have, in fact, watched a movie or two. Some of us have read books, including the classics. Lots of these are required reading in public high school. Our children know about Harry Potter. We understand about jumpers and trainers and chips and crisps.
Some of us are even capable of using Google if we forget how many pounds are in a stone.
Among my friends, there is great sadness right now about Alan Rickman and David Bowie. Our cultures are connected; there is more understanding than misunderstanding...really!
Some people know what a scone is, some don't. I'm not offended nor do I think all Americans are ignorant just because they've never noticed their existence before. Had I never been to America or watched too many Disney vlogs on Youtube I probably wouldn't know what funnel cake is, it's not a big deal.
As an aside. Those scones in Starbucks are a bastardisation of the real deal so not really a good comparative. Much like most foods adopted by another culture.
This is just some light hearted fun about the differences we all notice or come across. I've also lived overseas and experienced other differences (seriously UK, we need to adopt the New Zealand wonder of the roast dinner take away).0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Dear English Cousins,
Many Americans have, in fact, watched a movie or two. Some of us have read books, including the classics. Lots of these are required reading in public high school. Our children know about Harry Potter. We understand about jumpers and trainers and chips and crisps.
Some of us are even capable of using Google if we forget how many pounds are in a stone.
Among my friends, there is great sadness right now about Alan Rickman and David Bowie. Our cultures are connected; there is more understanding than misunderstanding...really!
What is your problem? This thread was 100% goofing around, having fun and talking about cultural foods.
Then you came in all uptight with your nose in the air and messed it up. Get over yourself.
Let's see I can google jumpers and get search results about sweaters or I can engage in a fun, enlightening and enjoyable conversation with some really cool, fun people. I choose the latter.
Brits, did I offend any of you for not knowing some things about your culture or have you enjoyed this lighthearted thread as much as I have?
Not in the least bit offended. I'm only offended when one of you asks if Scotland is in England..............
(It's not, by the way). 0 -
PPS. Bowie and Rickman in one week. We truly are a nation in mourning right now. My heart aches.0
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Carlos_421 wrote: »So y'all just throw some heavy cream on your biscuits and jelly and call it a scone? Then call it different kinds of scones based on whether you go cream or jelly first.
Got it.
Y'all need to start deep frying stuff.
I use an Irish soda bread recipe to make the best mock cheddar Bay biscuits ever.
And I agree with you about the muffin VA cupcake
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Carlos_421 wrote: »GrumpyHeadmistress wrote: »Biscuits (the US version) and scones are actually quite similar. Sweet scones are like biscuits with fruit and sugar in the dough. Savoury scones are like biscuits with cheese and herbs/spices in the dough.
And jam first always. Heathens.
Ok...do Americans just call them English muffins or they totally different things? Or are English muffins even a thing in England?
You really should watch "The Great British Bake Off"... Best corny British humor. They make the distinction between biscuits (hard all the way) and cookies (crispy on the outside and chewy in the middle). All my European baking education in 6 seasons0 -
Can one of the Brits answer a family question for me. My grandma made pasties for us, basically pie dough, meat, potatos and onions. Is that the normal or is there something else in them? My great grandma was from Cornwall....so maybe they are different all over? Maybe it isn't a thing anymore?1
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Carlos_421 wrote: »So y'all just throw some heavy cream on your biscuits and jelly and call it a scone? Then call it different kinds of scones based on whether you go cream or jelly first.
Got it.
Y'all need to start deep frying stuff.
I use an Irish soda bread recipe to make the best mock cheddar Bay biscuits ever.
And I agree with you about the muffin VA cupcake
Mm mm...cheddar bay biscuits...nom nom nom...0 -
Can one of the Brits answer a family question for me. My grandma made pasties for us, basically pie dough, meat, potatos and onions. Is that the normal or is there something else in them? My great grandma was from Cornwall....so maybe they are different all over? Maybe it isn't a thing anymore?
Pasties are a national favourite and, to me, Cornish pasties are the pinnacle. Traditionally eaten by miners, they have meat, potato, carrot, swede and onion. Pastry is usually crimped on the top and thicker at the ends to give the workmen something to hold onto without getting the rest of the pastie dirty. Nom.0 -
GrumpyHeadmistress wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Dear English Cousins,
Many Americans have, in fact, watched a movie or two. Some of us have read books, including the classics. Lots of these are required reading in public high school. Our children know about Harry Potter. We understand about jumpers and trainers and chips and crisps.
Some of us are even capable of using Google if we forget how many pounds are in a stone.
Among my friends, there is great sadness right now about Alan Rickman and David Bowie. Our cultures are connected; there is more understanding than misunderstanding...really!
What is your problem? This thread was 100% goofing around, having fun and talking about cultural foods.
Then you came in all uptight with your nose in the air and messed it up. Get over yourself.
Let's see I can google jumpers and get search results about sweaters or I can engage in a fun, enlightening and enjoyable conversation with some really cool, fun people. I choose the latter.
Brits, did I offend any of you for not knowing some things about your culture or have you enjoyed this lighthearted thread as much as I have?
Not at all. We'd still like to discuss the tea thing in Boston though...someone made a mess in the harbour.
Well we ordered coffee and y'all got it wrong...1 -
GrumpyHeadmistress wrote: »Can one of the Brits answer a family question for me. My grandma made pasties for us, basically pie dough, meat, potatos and onions. Is that the normal or is there something else in them? My great grandma was from Cornwall....so maybe they are different all over? Maybe it isn't a thing anymore?
Pasties are a national favourite and, to me, Cornish pasties are the pinnacle. Traditionally eaten by miners, they have meat, potato, carrot, swede and onion. Pastry is usually crimped on the top and thicker at the ends to give the workmen something to hold onto without getting the rest of the pastie dirty. Nom.
Yup, this.
God I love a pasty. Very much a thing. Now I want one, haven't had one in ages! I've even made my own, very simple and very tasty.0 -
GrumpyHeadmistress wrote: »Can one of the Brits answer a family question for me. My grandma made pasties for us, basically pie dough, meat, potatos and onions. Is that the normal or is there something else in them? My great grandma was from Cornwall....so maybe they are different all over? Maybe it isn't a thing anymore?
Pasties are a national favourite and, to me, Cornish pasties are the pinnacle. Traditionally eaten by miners, they have meat, potato, carrot, swede and onion. Pastry is usually crimped on the top and thicker at the ends to give the workmen something to hold onto without getting the rest of the pastie dirty. Nom.
Wait here while I go get a patent for Chicken Pot Pie Hot Pockets"...0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »GrumpyHeadmistress wrote: »Can one of the Brits answer a family question for me. My grandma made pasties for us, basically pie dough, meat, potatos and onions. Is that the normal or is there something else in them? My great grandma was from Cornwall....so maybe they are different all over? Maybe it isn't a thing anymore?
Pasties are a national favourite and, to me, Cornish pasties are the pinnacle. Traditionally eaten by miners, they have meat, potato, carrot, swede and onion. Pastry is usually crimped on the top and thicker at the ends to give the workmen something to hold onto without getting the rest of the pastie dirty. Nom.
Wait here while I go get a patent for Chicken Pot Pie Hot Pockets"...
It's usually beef. Lamb as a close runner up.0 -
VintageFeline wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »GrumpyHeadmistress wrote: »Can one of the Brits answer a family question for me. My grandma made pasties for us, basically pie dough, meat, potatos and onions. Is that the normal or is there something else in them? My great grandma was from Cornwall....so maybe they are different all over? Maybe it isn't a thing anymore?
Pasties are a national favourite and, to me, Cornish pasties are the pinnacle. Traditionally eaten by miners, they have meat, potato, carrot, swede and onion. Pastry is usually crimped on the top and thicker at the ends to give the workmen something to hold onto without getting the rest of the pastie dirty. Nom.
Wait here while I go get a patent for Chicken Pot Pie Hot Pockets"...
It's usually beef. Lamb as a close runner up.
That's something else it seems like y'all do well. America needs to eat more lamb (stuff ain't cheap tho!).0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »GrumpyHeadmistress wrote: »Can one of the Brits answer a family question for me. My grandma made pasties for us, basically pie dough, meat, potatos and onions. Is that the normal or is there something else in them? My great grandma was from Cornwall....so maybe they are different all over? Maybe it isn't a thing anymore?
Pasties are a national favourite and, to me, Cornish pasties are the pinnacle. Traditionally eaten by miners, they have meat, potato, carrot, swede and onion. Pastry is usually crimped on the top and thicker at the ends to give the workmen something to hold onto without getting the rest of the pastie dirty. Nom.
Wait here while I go get a patent for Chicken Pot Pie Hot Pockets"...
It's usually beef. Lamb as a close runner up.
That's something else it seems like y'all do well. America needs to eat more lamb (stuff ain't cheap tho!).
I eat lamb pretty regularly, it's delicious. Get a cheaper roasting cut, marinade in an anchovy/garlic/rosemary/lemon paste and roast for hours, mmmmmmmmm. We just do roast meats really well I think. Pork and crackling is another favourite.0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »Dear English Cousins,
Many Americans have, in fact, watched a movie or two. Some of us have read books, including the classics. Lots of these are required reading in public high school. Our children know about Harry Potter. We understand about jumpers and trainers and chips and crisps.
Some of us are even capable of using Google if we forget how many pounds are in a stone.
Among my friends, there is great sadness right now about Alan Rickman and David Bowie. Our cultures are connected; there is more understanding than misunderstanding...really!
Oh, don't apologize for me and the jumper thing, lol! The 'school' I went to was Oxford for goodness sake. They enjoyed discussions like this just fine, and we all had lots of laughs
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VintageFeline wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »GrumpyHeadmistress wrote: »Can one of the Brits answer a family question for me. My grandma made pasties for us, basically pie dough, meat, potatos and onions. Is that the normal or is there something else in them? My great grandma was from Cornwall....so maybe they are different all over? Maybe it isn't a thing anymore?
Pasties are a national favourite and, to me, Cornish pasties are the pinnacle. Traditionally eaten by miners, they have meat, potato, carrot, swede and onion. Pastry is usually crimped on the top and thicker at the ends to give the workmen something to hold onto without getting the rest of the pastie dirty. Nom.
Wait here while I go get a patent for Chicken Pot Pie Hot Pockets"...
It's usually beef. Lamb as a close runner up.
It's *always* beef in a proper Cornish pasty, skirt, I think. You can get all sorts of flavours these days (beef and Stilton, swoon! Or chicken and chorizo) but a proper oggy is always beef.
Is pie dough really a thing? Do you not use the word pastry?0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »azulvioleta6 wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »White Lightning in the UK is cider and teenage regrets.
It's so true. My brand was White Star (I assume it was a knock off), plus Richmond Menthol Superkings. Yuck!
Someone earlier said they need to find a way to make mac and cheese sound fancy... In the UK it's called macaroni cheese
Scone is of course pronounced to rhyme with cone, the meal order is breakfast, lunch and dinner, but more importantly, what's the correct term for a bread roll? Roll, barm, barmcake, cob, scuffler? (Obvs roll)
That's better than what the Canadians call it: Kraft Lunch (what if I eat it for breakfast???) and they put ketchup on it!! What???
ETA: and if it's a small round loaf of bread, it's a roll and they serve them at steak houses.
Steakhouse: Rolls with/before your meal
BBQ joint: Sweet Cornbread muffins with/before your meal
Granny's Country Kitchen: Biscuits with/before your meal
It is called Kraft DINNER in Canada.
They still put ketchup on it.
I think Canadians put ketchup on KD about as often as Americans do on their boxed mac & cheese, which is to say that some do and others don't. It's definitely not expected or anything.0 -
Pasties are a national favourite and, to me, Cornish pasties are the pinnacle. Traditionally eaten by miners, they have meat, potato, carrot, swede and onion. Pastry is usually crimped on the top and thicker at the ends to give the workmen something to hold onto without getting the rest of the pastie dirty. Nom.[/quote]
Wait here while I go get a patent for Chicken Pot Pie Hot Pockets"...[/quote]
Carrot??? Blasphemy!!! Shortcrust pastry; skirt, cubed; potato, sliced; onion. Some have turnip (which is what we Cornish call swede - the rest of you have it the wrong way around. Pastry can be side or top crimped, depending on how your mum taught you. Miners were usually too hungry to care whether or not the pastry was dirty. The only true pasty is a Cornish pssty; accept no substitutes.
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I may be opening a can of worms here but swede and turnip are different. I think. I'm Scottish, grew up with turnip (neeps) and was elated when I saw both turnip and swede in a supermarket a few years ago south of the border!0
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Carlos_421 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »GrumpyHeadmistress wrote: »Can one of the Brits answer a family question for me. My grandma made pasties for us, basically pie dough, meat, potatos and onions. Is that the normal or is there something else in them? My great grandma was from Cornwall....so maybe they are different all over? Maybe it isn't a thing anymore?
Pasties are a national favourite and, to me, Cornish pasties are the pinnacle. Traditionally eaten by miners, they have meat, potato, carrot, swede and onion. Pastry is usually crimped on the top and thicker at the ends to give the workmen something to hold onto without getting the rest of the pastie dirty. Nom.
Wait here while I go get a patent for Chicken Pot Pie Hot Pockets"...
It's usually beef. Lamb as a close runner up.
That's something else it seems like y'all do well. America needs to eat more lamb (stuff ain't cheap tho!).
I eat lamb a bunch (in the US). The UK definitely seems to be better with savory pies, though (I say while thinking specifically of the Bake-Off show).0
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