Have you ever tried clean eating?
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That's a whole separate topic/discussion right there.cerise_noir wrote: »How about shampoos? What if someone cannot pronounce 'sodium laureth sulfate' or 'Sodium lauroamphoacetate', does that mean they cannot use it?
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diannethegeek wrote: »CattOfTheGarage wrote: »My local supermarket is sabotaging my clean eating efforts!
Omg I love this!
Haha this reminds of a goulash powder mix i use that i have to drive miles to get!
My local continental deli can easily get it in for me, but she won't order it in because the label is in a different language, even though the ingredients are listed in English. Her point being is that they cant sell stuff that people can't read or pronounce..
ETA: Oops quoted the wrong post. I meant to quote the shopping cart post.
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
That's a whole separate topic/discussion right there.cerise_noir wrote: »How about shampoos? What if someone cannot pronounce 'sodium laureth sulfate' or 'Sodium lauroamphoacetate', does that mean they cannot use it?
Omg do i have to go home and throw out all my IKEA furniture???8 -
I started clean eating in January, 2016. It took me awhile to get use to it, but, it's pretty standard and easy now. I read labels on everything! If there is chemicals or names on the label I can't pronounce, forget it! Oh, and I try to eat thing with 5 or less ingredients in it. Mainly eating just fresh fruit and vegetables. Ground turkey or once in a while I eat beef, but, make sure there is no hormones added. Whole grains, no processed foods!! I feel guilty now, if I have to go down a isle in the grocery store. That's where all the BAD foods are. I pretty much shop around the edges and in produce isles.1
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I started clean eating in January, 2016. It took me awhile to get use to it, but, it's pretty standard and easy now. I read labels on everything! If there is chemicals or names on the label I can't pronounce, forget it! Oh, and I try to eat thing with 5 or less ingredients in it. Mainly eating just fresh fruit and vegetables. Ground turkey or once in a while I eat beef, but, make sure there is no hormones added. Whole grains, no processed foods!! I feel guilty now, if I have to go down a isle in the grocery store. That's where all the BAD foods are. I pretty much shop around the edges and in produce isles.
I see you read the thread before contributing...8 -
I started clean eating in January, 2016. It took me awhile to get use to it, but, it's pretty standard and easy now. I read labels on everything! If there is chemicals or names on the label I can't pronounce, forget it! Oh, and I try to eat thing with 5 or less ingredients in it. Mainly eating just fresh fruit and vegetables. Ground turkey or once in a while I eat beef, but, make sure there is no hormones added. Whole grains, no processed foods!! I feel guilty now, if I have to go down a isle in the grocery store. That's where all the BAD foods are. I pretty much shop around the edges and in produce isles.
You mean like "METAMYOSYN® Protein Blend (Milk Protein Concentrate, Calcium, And Sodium Caseinate, Whey Protein Isolate, L-Glutamine, Egg White), Natural And Artificial Flavors, Cocoa (Processed With Alkali), Partially Hydrogenated Soybean, And Cottonseed Oil, Aspartame, *** Cellulose Gum, Xanthan Gum, Acesulfame Potassium, Guar Gum.
Contains Milk, Egg And Soy Ingredients.
***Phenylketonurics: Contains Phenylalanine. "
Or
"nonfat milk, sugar, corn syrup, whey, high fructose corn syrup, water, palm oil, cocoa processed with alkali, tricalcium phosphate, mono & diglycerides, cellulose gum, guar gum, malt powder, salt, polysorbate 80, polysorbate 65, carrageenan"
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I started clean eating in January, 2016. It took me awhile to get use to it, but, it's pretty standard and easy now. I read labels on everything! If there is chemicals or names on the label I can't pronounce, forget it! Oh, and I try to eat thing with 5 or less ingredients in it. Mainly eating just fresh fruit and vegetables. Ground turkey or once in a while I eat beef, but, make sure there is no hormones added. Whole grains, no processed foods!! I feel guilty now, if I have to go down a isle in the grocery store. That's where all the BAD foods are. I pretty much shop around the edges and in produce isles.
I see you read the thread before contributing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04 3 -
When I ate whole, clean foods for all of 2012, I gained a net 20 pounds*.
(*by eating at a calculated surplus necessary to gain a net 20 pounds during the year.
I then cut a net 20 pounds the next year eating processed SAD by eating at a calculated deficit to lose a net 20 pounds.)5 -
You mean just heathy food? I've done that before but that's why my diets never worked out. This is the first time I've tried eating what I like in moderation and the longest I've gone. I think that says something
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I love a refreshingly new topic like this. It's like a cool winter's breeze right after falling into an icy lake.11
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I just wanted to know if anyones tried it. Lol I'm loving it but that's just me.2
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I love clean food too!3
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »I eat lots of fresh, one ingredient things. Cook from scratch as much as is practical . Whole grains as much as possible. But "clean" no. I enjoy an occasional diet soda, icecream when it fits into my calorie/saturated fat goals, chocolate, etc. Life should be lived, not endured. And, while I agree with the concept, I detest the term "clean eating ".
I'm always curious about statements like the bolded. They seem to be in opposition to each other, as I can't think of a single thing that I cook that only has one ingredient. Even roasted veggies, I add olive oil, salt, pepper and other seasonings. Most things that I cook have lots of ingredients, and though I don't consider myself a clean eater, I can't imagine a life without soups, stews, sauces, etc... Or how eliminating them based on the fact that they have multiple components makes me healthier...
What one ingredient things do you eat, other than maybe fruit?
Maybe I should have said "one ingredient ingredients ". Sounded too complicated
I always find this odd too, as when people ask for "clean eating" cookbooks (which if you mean just cooking from whole foods is basically every cookbook I have). When I cook from scratch, of course I typically use single ingredient, ingredients. I really don't think doing the semi-homemade (forget that woman's name, Sandra Lee?) is what most people think of re cooking. I think of roast veg with olive oil and salt (and maybe other seasonings), cook meat, cook starch side. If doing something more elaborate, it's still single ingredient ingredients for the most part (unless something like pasta which really is just flour and water and I could make at home but what difference does it make?). I'm always puzzled how it's assumed other people cook if not like this. Of course, I also don't think using something processed like pasta or flour or olive oil somehow makes my food less worth eating, so maybe we aren't on the same page.
Oh I have a bookshelf full of cookbooks purchased from schools, churches or charity organizations that are filled with recipes that include ingredients that are not single ingredient ingredients.
Casseroles that use frozen hashbrowns or corn flakes. Numerous recipes that call for Cheez Whiz or Velveeta, canned cream of <something> soup, or sausage. Desserts that use packaged cookies, cake mixes, pudding or Jell-O.
I know such cookbooks exist--I love weird cookbooks and have a few Iowa church cookbook from the '20s or some such, as well as a cookbook based on food in books by James Joyce, LOL and a ton of other weird things--but they aren't the main common cookbooks, IME. The idea that you have to seek out "clean eating" cookbooks is odd.
I don't know what is meant by "main common cookbooks" but my point was that a lot of people cook with ingredients that aren't single ingredient ingredients and wouldn't normally be considered clean. Cookbooks such as those from churches and schools are compiled from recipes parents, members and students regularly make.
Bittman, Julia Child, stuff like that.
Those product-based recipes are typically from the back of the product, not a standard cookbook.
Maybe I'm naive, but most people I know primarily cook using whole ingredients, not Ritz crackers. They will also use convenience foods on occasion (or even regularly for lunch), sure, but I find it odd that some seem to think that normal cooking, cooking from whole foods, is something special and different that needs a self-congratulatory name. I just think of it as cooking.
Speaking of that Ritz cracker thing ... there's a pie that is, apparently, made from Ritz crackers.
Evidently it is apple flavoured and I've heard you buy a pie shell, a package of the cheapest Ritz crackers (or look-alikes) that you can find, and the cheapest sugar laden apple beverage that you can find. You soak the Ritz crackers in the apple beverage, then plop the whole mess into the pie shell, and maybe add some more sugar and cinnamon and bake it.
It's supposed to taste just like apple pie ... without all the hassle of cutting up fresh apples.
Even though I've heard about this pie from several people, and I'm told it is a poor person's alternative to buying fresh produce, I can't get the word "WHY???" out of my head.
Oh yeah, that recipe used to be on every Ritz cracker box (maybe still is). I've never known anyone that actually made it though.
Sadly ... I did know some who made it. In fact, I know someone who made it in the last year or so!!
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PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »5 second rule! Unless it's something moist or gets a hair stuck to it. That's my clean eating.
That was exactly my thought when I read the thread title
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Was it you? Lol jk0
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Mandygring wrote: »Was it you? Lol jk
I don't know who you're directing this question to, but if it is to me about the ritz cracker pies ... no! I can't imagine why anyone would want to make a pie with crackers when they could just as easily and inexpensively make it with apples. If you're going to eat a slice of pie, you might as well have a serving of fruit in it.
In fact, I haven't made an apple pie in ages in favour of apple crumbles. I think apple crumbles taste better and I can make them with lots of fruit (usually apple + cherry or apple + apricot) and just a little bit of the crumble topping which is mainly oatmeal anyway.
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I started clean eating in January, 2016. It took me awhile to get use to it, but, it's pretty standard and easy now. I read labels on everything! If there is chemicals or names on the label I can't pronounce, forget it! Oh, and I try to eat thing with 5 or less ingredients in it. Mainly eating just fresh fruit and vegetables. Ground turkey or once in a while I eat beef, but, make sure there is no hormones added. Whole grains, no processed foods!! I feel guilty now, if I have to go down a isle in the grocery store. That's where all the BAD foods are. I pretty much shop around the edges and in produce isles.
@tamyena you do realize that fudgesticks and mayo etc all are "processed" with chemicals right?
and the fact you call food "bad" does not bode well for your journey...
I am not into "clean eating" myself but a lot of the food in your diary I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole...wtf is a sugar free fudgestick that sounds nasty.4 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »I eat lots of fresh, one ingredient things. Cook from scratch as much as is practical . Whole grains as much as possible. But "clean" no. I enjoy an occasional diet soda, icecream when it fits into my calorie/saturated fat goals, chocolate, etc. Life should be lived, not endured. And, while I agree with the concept, I detest the term "clean eating ".
I'm always curious about statements like the bolded. They seem to be in opposition to each other, as I can't think of a single thing that I cook that only has one ingredient. Even roasted veggies, I add olive oil, salt, pepper and other seasonings. Most things that I cook have lots of ingredients, and though I don't consider myself a clean eater, I can't imagine a life without soups, stews, sauces, etc... Or how eliminating them based on the fact that they have multiple components makes me healthier...
What one ingredient things do you eat, other than maybe fruit?
Maybe I should have said "one ingredient ingredients ". Sounded too complicated
I always find this odd too, as when people ask for "clean eating" cookbooks (which if you mean just cooking from whole foods is basically every cookbook I have). When I cook from scratch, of course I typically use single ingredient, ingredients. I really don't think doing the semi-homemade (forget that woman's name, Sandra Lee?) is what most people think of re cooking. I think of roast veg with olive oil and salt (and maybe other seasonings), cook meat, cook starch side. If doing something more elaborate, it's still single ingredient ingredients for the most part (unless something like pasta which really is just flour and water and I could make at home but what difference does it make?). I'm always puzzled how it's assumed other people cook if not like this. Of course, I also don't think using something processed like pasta or flour or olive oil somehow makes my food less worth eating, so maybe we aren't on the same page.
Oh I have a bookshelf full of cookbooks purchased from schools, churches or charity organizations that are filled with recipes that include ingredients that are not single ingredient ingredients.
Casseroles that use frozen hashbrowns or corn flakes. Numerous recipes that call for Cheez Whiz or Velveeta, canned cream of <something> soup, or sausage. Desserts that use packaged cookies, cake mixes, pudding or Jell-O.
I know such cookbooks exist--I love weird cookbooks and have a few Iowa church cookbook from the '20s or some such, as well as a cookbook based on food in books by James Joyce, LOL and a ton of other weird things--but they aren't the main common cookbooks, IME. The idea that you have to seek out "clean eating" cookbooks is odd.
I don't know what is meant by "main common cookbooks" but my point was that a lot of people cook with ingredients that aren't single ingredient ingredients and wouldn't normally be considered clean. Cookbooks such as those from churches and schools are compiled from recipes parents, members and students regularly make.
Bittman, Julia Child, stuff like that.
Those product-based recipes are typically from the back of the product, not a standard cookbook.
Maybe I'm naive, but most people I know primarily cook using whole ingredients, not Ritz crackers. They will also use convenience foods on occasion (or even regularly for lunch), sure, but I find it odd that some seem to think that normal cooking, cooking from whole foods, is something special and different that needs a self-congratulatory name. I just think of it as cooking.
Speaking of that Ritz cracker thing ... there's a pie that is, apparently, made from Ritz crackers.
Evidently it is apple flavoured and I've heard you buy a pie shell, a package of the cheapest Ritz crackers (or look-alikes) that you can find, and the cheapest sugar laden apple beverage that you can find. You soak the Ritz crackers in the apple beverage, then plop the whole mess into the pie shell, and maybe add some more sugar and cinnamon and bake it.
It's supposed to taste just like apple pie ... without all the hassle of cutting up fresh apples.
Even though I've heard about this pie from several people, and I'm told it is a poor person's alternative to buying fresh produce, I can't get the word "WHY???" out of my head.
Oh yeah, that recipe used to be on every Ritz cracker box (maybe still is). I've never known anyone that actually made it though.
Sadly ... I did know some who made it. In fact, I know someone who made it in the last year or so!!
Did you taste it? I've always been curious. Seems like it would have to be salty since the crackers are fairly salty.0 -
I think @tamyena typifies the typical misunderstanding with 'clean' eating.
Fudgicles? Peanut butter and Jam? Protein powders? Ground turkey breasts and store breads?
This is what we call eating normally but within your calorie goal (some mistakenly call CICO, which is really just an equation)
(I feel bad because I don't share my diary 'cause of all the haters who just did what I did. But it proves that no one knows what 'clean' eating is....)3 -
annaskiski wrote: »I think @tamyena typifies the typical misunderstanding with 'clean' eating.
Fudgicles? Peanut butter and Jam? Protein powders? Ground turkey breasts and store breads?
This is what we call eating normally but within your calorie goal (some mistakenly call CICO, which is really just an equation)
(I feel bad because I don't share my diary 'cause of all the haters who just did what I did. But it proves that no one knows what 'clean' eating is....)
You are correct there because there are others who claimed it too...and have hotdogs in their diary
eat whole nutrient dense foods 80% of the time...eat other foods you like/want 20% of the time, stay in goal and don't fall for hooey.2 -
annaskiski wrote: »I think @tamyena typifies the typical misunderstanding with 'clean' eating.
Fudgicles? Peanut butter and Jam? Protein powders? Ground turkey breasts and store breads?
This is what we call eating normally but within your calorie goal (some mistakenly call CICO, which is really just an equation)
(I feel bad because I don't share my diary 'cause of all the haters who just did what I did. But it proves that no one knows what 'clean' eating is....)
I absolutely LOVE this post!0 -
3dogsrunning wrote: »Annamarie3404 wrote: »For the most part, I eat clean. I quit eating processed foods completely at the beginning of this year. I don't eat raw though. But I cook everything I eat. It's all fresh or frozen veggies...steamed, baked, broiled or grilled.
I am also weaning myself off of the microwave. Hope to get that out by the end of this year.
You have a Weight Watchers frozen dinner, Cheetos, jam, low cal bread, Subway sandwich, Weight Watchers frozen ice cream, Laughing Cow cheese in your diary from the past few days.
Not that I think there is anything wrong with that but it is contradictory to your post.
Not to mention it is going to be a lot harder to cook the WW meal without a microwave... They do have instructions for preparing in a conventional oven but I always wonder who would wait 50 minutes for one of those to cook...3 -
I see this thread has gone the same way every other clean eating discussion goes... A lot of people claiming to eat clean when on further examination, eat many of the same processed foods as those claiming to be flexible dieters... The obligatory definitions of "only shop the perimeter" and "don't eat anything you can't pronounce", the "banana/Apple/blueberry scary ingredient" infographic, and people who just need 2 argue no matter what.
The only difference in this thread compared to all the others is the appearance of the ritz mock Apple pie recipe. I'm pretty sure I have some ritz crackers at home and my husband is always asking me to bake him a pie, maybe I will see if he can tell the difference!12 -
WinoGelato wrote: »I see this thread has gone the same way every other clean eating discussion goes... A lot of people claiming to eat clean when on further examination, eat many of the same processed foods as those claiming to be flexible dieters... The obligatory definitions of "only shop the perimeter" and "don't eat anything you can't pronounce", the "banana/Apple/blueberry scary ingredient" infographic, and people who just need 2 argue no matter what.
The only difference in this thread compared to all the others is the appearance of the ritz mock Apple pie recipe. I'm pretty sure I have some ritz crackers at home and my husband is always asking me to bake him a pie, maybe I will see if he can tell the difference!
If I can find my cream of tartar, I'm making it this weekend.1 -
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OK, on the mock apple pie front, I found this:
http://www.culinarylore.com/food-history:did-nabisco-invent-mock-apple-pie
Excerpt:Is is certainly true that Nabisco popularized the notion of a mock apple pie. However, the company did not invent the recipe. Although Nabisco Ritz crackers were introduced during the Depression, in 1934, and became very popular, it wasn't until the Second World War that the company began printing the Ritz mock apple pie recipe on the packages. Cookbooks had been printing mock apple pie recipes long before then.
The fact is that Ritz mock apple pie is derived from earlier recipes for mock apple pie, dating back to the 19th century, that used soda crackers or saltines in place of apples. Mock mince pies were made with similar ingredients: crackers, sugar, and spices. Indeed, the Ritz Cracker Mock Apple Pie was not the only such recipe that Nabisco printed on its boxes. There was also a "Mystery Torte" recipe on its boxes of Premium saltine crackers.3 -
Now I want to know more about mystery torte!
Anyone else ever hear about vinegar pie?
http://www.annarbor.com/entertainment/food-drink/vinegar-pie---not-just-weird-its-actually-good-really/
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I have cream of tartar in the house, and really, what else is it useful for?
Absolutely intrigued by the vinegar pie, but utterly baffled by the revelation that mock apple pie predates Ritz crackers. The only explanation for that recipe that ever came close to making an ounce of sense was that it was invented to sell Ritz crackers. Now nothing about it makes any sense at all.
Have to say I'm not comfortable with people being called out about the contents of their diary. I understand the motivation, but it's not what open diaries are for and undermines the community support aspect, imo. I don't have an open diary and I am very reluctant to accept people as friends because I'm not comfortable with the idea that someone I don't know could criticise or shame what I chose to have for breakfast - and that's exactly what I see happening here.
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Meat has saturated fat regardless of how lean you get it and fruits and vegetables have sugar. Salt is a preservative.Mandygring wrote: »unprocessed, whole foods like fruits, vegetables, whole grains, lean meats, and no artificial ingredients, preservatives, sugars, saturated fat, and trans fat.
These are reasons why there is no definition for "clean" eating.
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