what NOT to eat
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I think what you really mean to say is that, if you have foods that you can't eat in moderation, you may want to stay away from them in the short term unless/until you learn how to make them fit into your calorie target. There's absolutely nothing wrong with any of the foods you mentioned unless they lead you to overeat in a way you cannot control. People don't necessarily understand the difference between "that's a bad food that everyone should stay away from" and "that's a food I can't personally include right now," so that's where you get the people freaking out over bread and pasta unnecessarily. It's not at all that bread is bad, it's that you can't moderate your bread consumption. I personally have no issue with bread, but I did find out last week that I can't have Chex Mix in the house because I'll eat ALL of it. That doesn't mean that everyone needs to stay away from Chex Mix, though; it's just me.Another idea may be your new shopping list should comprise of more water, lean cuts of meat, seafood, fresh vegetables (more green because of fibers), fruit, nuts (in moderation), and natural starches such as jasmine rice, sweet potatoes, and whole grains. Bread, baked goods, pasta, cereal, regular soda, liquor, and desserts must be cut out entirely until get a grasp on how to incorporate cheat meals and days into your plan without reverting back to old habits. Plus, if you are truly committed and want it, what is sacrificing a few bad meals in order to meet your goals. Let's face many people want to change because they have been eating the way they want for a long time and have not seen the results they want. In order to make changes you have to change some of the things you are doing for growth. You put in half way work you get half way results.
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Why? So many "healthy" foods are processed, including the jasmine rice you mentioned.Your diet should consist of unprocessed foods.
Why?Bread, baked goods, pasta, cereal, regular soda, liquor, and desserts must be cut out entirely until get a grasp on how to incorporate cheat meals and days into your plan without reverting back to old habits.
I incorporate these every day and and have lost a significant amount of weight. If you stick around for a while, you'll notice the majority of mfp-ers eat a balanced diet with their favorite foods in moderation. A healthy attitude towards food in general is a healthy approach to weight loss. Cutting out foods can actually cause some to develop orthorexia.
I hate cheat meals and cheat days. I can easily undo my weekly deficit with those. I'd rather incorporate my favorites daily and NOT go over my calorie goal. I only have 4-5 IDGAF days a year where I won't count calories.
Weight loss is ALL about calories, more specifically, having the right energy (CICO) balance, and nothing about the type of food you eat. Moderating all foods that one enjoys is a perfectly valid way to lose weight.
The recommendation of cutting out foods and food groups to someone who is already stressed about weight loss in general is a sure way to stress someone out further. Weight loss is stressful enough already without having to throw rules and guidelines at it.
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cerise_noir wrote: »
Why? So many "healthy" foods are processed, including the jasmine rice you mentioned.Your diet should consist of unprocessed foods.
Why?Bread, baked goods, pasta, cereal, regular soda, liquor, and desserts must be cut out entirely until get a grasp on how to incorporate cheat meals and days into your plan without reverting back to old habits.
I incorporate these every day and and have lost a significant amount of weight. If you stick around for a while, you'll notice the majority of mfp-ers eat a balanced diet with their favorite foods in moderation. A healthy attitude towards food in general is a healthy approach to weight loss. Cutting out foods can actually cause some to develop orthorexia.
I hate cheat meals and cheat days. I can easily undo my weekly deficit with those. I'd rather incorporate my favorites daily and NOT go over my calorie goal. I only have 4-5 IDGAF days a year where I won't count calories.
Weight loss is ALL about calories, more specifically, having the right energy (CICO) balance, and nothing about the type of food you eat. Moderating all foods that one enjoys is a perfectly valid way to lose weight.
The recommendation of cutting out foods and food groups to someone who is already stressed about weight loss in general is a sure way to stress someone out further. Weight loss is stressful enough already without having to throw rules and guidelines at it.
because everyone knows that processed foods contain magical properties that make you gain weight, even if you are in calorie deficit.12 -
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HappyGrape wrote: »jennybearlv wrote: »Don't eat green bell peppers. I'm not sure who thought it would be a good idea to eat peppers before they were ripe. Gross.
green pointy peppers are really tasty! bell not so much
it's little bit like spring onion in way? It has it's own taste as spring onion, before growing to a normal onion.
Jalapeños? Yum! Chili peppers? Yum!
I agree about the bell peppers. I don't like green, red, orange or yellow bell peppers. They don't taste any better to me when they turn ripe versus green, IMO.
I don't know what a spring onion is?
@DebSozo . Spring Onion. Do you guys have them in America?
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I agree. The problem is when giving advice like just cut out _____ with out adding the above is a bit misleading. Some folks try cutting out things and then end up binging on them because they aren't including some of the foods they love on occasion.
A lot of folks need a sustainable WOE and sometimes being overly restrictive isn't the answer.
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cerise_noir wrote: »
Why? So many "healthy" foods are processed, including the jasmine rice you mentioned.Your diet should consist of unprocessed foods.
Why?Bread, baked goods, pasta, cereal, regular soda, liquor, and desserts must be cut out entirely until get a grasp on how to incorporate cheat meals and days into your plan without reverting back to old habits.
I incorporate these every day and and have lost a significant amount of weight. If you stick around for a while, you'll notice the majority of mfp-ers eat a balanced diet with their favorite foods in moderation. A healthy attitude towards food in general is a healthy approach to weight loss. Cutting out foods can actually cause some to develop orthorexia.
I hate cheat meals and cheat days. I can easily undo my weekly deficit with those. I'd rather incorporate my favorites daily and NOT go over my calorie goal. I only have 4-5 IDGAF days a year where I won't count calories.
Weight loss is ALL about calories, more specifically, having the right energy (CICO) balance, and nothing about the type of food you eat. Moderating all foods that one enjoys is a perfectly valid way to lose weight.
The recommendation of cutting out foods and food groups to someone who is already stressed about weight loss in general is a sure way to stress someone out further. Weight loss is stressful enough already without having to throw rules and guidelines at it.
because everyone knows that processed foods contain magical properties that make you gain weight, even if you are in calorie deficit.
Not everyone apparently but some people know that overly processed foods have most of whatever nutritional value they once had destroyed during the processing and that it will be for difficult to feel full for long after eating, increasing your chances of craving even more. For some people these foods trigger some people's brains to eat even more, much like an alcoholic can't stop at one or two drinks.
If you can handle eating highly processed foods, fine. Great! Good for you! Realize not everyone is the same and some people actually do need to avoid these things if they want to reach their goals. And it's not a big deal to do it.2 -
leanjogreen18 wrote: »
I agree. The problem is when giving advice like just cut out _____ with out adding the above is a bit misleading. Some folks try cutting out things and then end up binging on them because they aren't including some of the foods they love on occasion.
A lot of folks need a sustainable WOE and sometimes being overly restrictive isn't the answer.
Good point and I agree with you. It's difficult to come up with one all-encompassing reply that can't have holes poked in it. I just tried to answer the OP's question with some ideas and not preach.4 -
OP my only advice is to avoid foods that you know you cant moderate and that inevitably end up sending you over your calories. I have a few foods which i have very rarely, because i struggle to eat them in moderation.
Stuff like Cheescake, peanut butter cups, peanut butter, cheerios.2 -
Not for everyone. When I used to try to eliminate all those "treat" foods I got hangry and quit. I see that in my friends and coworkers all the time. It was actually extremely helpful for me to learn how to fit stuff like that into my daily calorie goal, only then was I able to stay on plan long term and finally start seeing results. Some people may have to temp cut that stuff out, but for many it just makes life harder.4 -
Not for everyone. When I used to try to eliminate all those "treat" foods I got hangry and quit. I see that in my friends and coworkers all the time. It was actually extremely helpful for me to learn how to fit stuff like that into my daily calorie goal, only then was I able to stay on plan long term and finally start seeing results. Some people may have to temp cut that stuff out, but for many it just makes life harder.
Yes, we are all different.
We all share our advice and the OP will find something that works for her.2 -
Not for everyone. When I used to try to eliminate all those "treat" foods I got hangry and quit. I see that in my friends and coworkers all the time. It was actually extremely helpful for me to learn how to fit stuff like that into my daily calorie goal, only then was I able to stay on plan long term and finally start seeing results. Some people may have to temp cut that stuff out, but for many it just makes life harder.
Yes, we are all different.
We all share our advice and the OP will find something that works for her.
Very true and for that reason I try to use words like...
For me
Some folks find
This helps instead of making a blanket statement, which I'm sure I'm guilty of making at times
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ETA - Your very fit profile picture MAY give some folks reason to pay more than the usual attention to your advice. If he looks like that he knows what he's talking about, type thing. Then they try cutting out X and fail miserably. Not saying its your fault just saying you may want to preface things with the understanding not all things work for all folks. just my opinion though:).7 -
Not for everyone. When I used to try to eliminate all those "treat" foods I got hangry and quit. I see that in my friends and coworkers all the time. It was actually extremely helpful for me to learn how to fit stuff like that into my daily calorie goal, only then was I able to stay on plan long term and finally start seeing results. Some people may have to temp cut that stuff out, but for many it just makes life harder.
Yes, we are all different.
We all share our advice and the OP will find something that works for her.
I just get passionate about that. I know too many women who have years of women's magazine articles and Dr. Oz episodes under their belts, and they keep a list in their head of all the yummy foods and drinks they can't have, and all the expensive "healthy" stuff they're supposed to eat. And after a month of struggling they end up inhaling a quart of ice cream and feel like a disgusting failure. And often they decide to settle for being overweight and unhealthy rather than face that challenge again. It was like a religious experience for me when I realized I didn't have to give that stuff up LOL.
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I agree that no-one has to give anything up, but for some of us it's easier and less stressful to eliminate rather than moderate.4
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Christine_72 wrote: »I agree that no-one has to give anything up, but for some of us it's easier and less stressful to eliminate rather than moderate.
For me, there were certain things (I'm looking at you ice cream) that I had to keep out of my house. When I bought it, I would bring home the single serving stuff. Occasionally, I would grab two or three, or five, of those single servings to test my ability to keep it in the freezer without eating it all. I failed at that several times, but remained persistent. I can now keep ice cream in the freezer, and only have a serving, or none. When I'm having a bad day, sometimes, I'll still over eat it, but I knew that I didn't want to allow food to continue to have that control over me. I can understand that elimination works for some, but it often left me feeling like a failure. Changing my mindset was the most liberating part of this experience.4 -
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Foods that have gone bad, make you sick, or that you don't like. And if you're planning on losing weight, too much food.
I don't know... foods that have gone bad can always give a nice kickstart to a weight loss program.
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Quote me to see what I did.5 -
tmoneyag99 wrote: »Foods that have gone bad, make you sick, or that you don't like. And if you're planning on losing weight, too much food.
I don't know... foods that have gone bad can always give a nice kickstart to a weight loss program.
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^5 Christine! It's my fave!
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tmoneyag99 wrote: »^5 Christine! It's my fave!
I only watched it the other night. brilliant movie!1 -
Thanks @nutmegoreo I didn't realize we still had to use good ole HTML.
side question... is there really such a thing as nutmeg oreos?
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tmoneyag99 wrote: »Thanks @nutmegoreo I didn't realize we still had to use good ole HTML.
side question... is there really such a thing as nutmeg oreos?
Not that I know of. They were my guinea pigs several years back. :laugh:Christine_72 wrote: »
Great minds, ya?1 -
Christine_72 wrote: »HappyGrape wrote: »jennybearlv wrote: »Don't eat green bell peppers. I'm not sure who thought it would be a good idea to eat peppers before they were ripe. Gross.
green pointy peppers are really tasty! bell not so much
it's little bit like spring onion in way? It has it's own taste as spring onion, before growing to a normal onion.
Jalapeños? Yum! Chili peppers? Yum!
I agree about the bell peppers. I don't like green, red, orange or yellow bell peppers. They don't taste any better to me when they turn ripe versus green, IMO.
I don't know what a spring onion is?
@DebSozo . Spring Onion. Do you guys have them in America?
Yeah, we have them. They are typically called green onions or scallions, but I see spring onion too.1 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »HappyGrape wrote: »jennybearlv wrote: »Don't eat green bell peppers. I'm not sure who thought it would be a good idea to eat peppers before they were ripe. Gross.
green pointy peppers are really tasty! bell not so much
it's little bit like spring onion in way? It has it's own taste as spring onion, before growing to a normal onion.
Jalapeños? Yum! Chili peppers? Yum!
I agree about the bell peppers. I don't like green, red, orange or yellow bell peppers. They don't taste any better to me when they turn ripe versus green, IMO.
I don't know what a spring onion is?
@DebSozo . Spring Onion. Do you guys have them in America?
Yeah, we have them. They are typically called green onions or scallions, but I see spring onion too.
I love our language differences. I had to google what the hell an Aubergine was!
We call them Eggplants here
Cantaloupe-Rockmelon
Arugula - Rocket
And I've noticed on the cooking shows, that Americans pronounce Herbs as Erbs.2
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