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Giving up sugar for good
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Update I just ate four Oreos and a glass of milk and I'm still alive and have not gained give five pounds...
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OP---you are correct and so is Gary Taubes---fully half of people in the US (and some other places) are obese or overweight, they can not control the intake of sugar/carbs and they are having negative health impacts.
Here at MFP, we hear from many who can eat sugar/carbs within CiCo and those ppl refuse to believe that this does not work for sugar/carb addicts.
Gary Taubes has no medical or nutrition degrees. He is a quack.
And, do you even know what CICO is? I mean, low carb is a form of CICO, so is high carb, IIFYM, any way of eating is based on CICO..
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Update I just ate four Oreos and a glass of milk and I'm still alive and have not gained give five pounds...
You should have seen the pavlova my husband and I shared on Christmas Day.
Interestingly, despite that pavlova, the shortbread cookies I made from scratch, all the mince tarts we ate, the chocolates ... oh, and it's mango season and they're packed with sugar ...
... I maintained my weight over Christmas.
Same weight now as I was a month ago.
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My god, this entire thread reads like an argument among a bunch of high school kids...
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Interesting long read by Gary Taubes in The Guardian today about sugar's addictive effects and the futility of trying to "moderate" its consumption. He also makes the interesting observation that people tend to define moderation as "whatever works for them". Anyway, it's all enough to convince me...
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jan/05/is-sugar-worlds-most-popular-drug
No way I'm giving up sugar, because it's actually one of the foods I can eat without upsetting my system.
Can't do lactose, soy, wheat due to intolerance, and I won't eat things I don't like no matter how good they are for me, so gotta keep what I can eat and do like.
I love my sugar, though I moderate it very well.
5-6 grams of brown sugar on my oatmeal each morning.
Powdered sugar to make my yogurt frosting for my wheat-free brownies, which has its own sugar.
Everything in moderation.
Taubes is a sugar scare-monger, and the Guardian is not the most reliable sources for accurate information. 7 -
Lol, yep. I'm sure "addicts" are eating spoonfuls of it when they need their fix.If there were absolutely no other sweets in my house, I would never be tempted to eat plain sugar. Am I addicted?
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No they can control it IF THEY REALLY WANT TO. There really aren't any "sugar/carb addicts". There are people who like it more than they like eating other stuff because it tastes good.OP---you are correct and so is Gary Taubes---fully half of people in the US (and some other places) are obese or overweight, they can not control the intake of sugar/carbs and they are having negative health impacts.
Here at MFP, we hear from many who can eat sugar/carbs within CiCo and those ppl refuse to believe that this does not work for sugar/carb addicts.
And as a professional in the business, I'm sure I've dealt personally with more overweight/obese people than many of the posters and can tell you emphatically that BEHAVIOR can be altered with consistency and support.
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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I skimmed it. Someone has way too much time on their hands.
Repeat after me. Sugar is not a drug. Moderate the amount you consume on a daily bases. Other wise you'll end up messing with your blood sugar levels and that makes you really sick without sugar. Symptoms of low blood sugar are as of the following:
dizzy, lightheaded, headache, shaking and nausea.
Been there, done that, was not amused.
Just because they put it in tobacco products does not mean it's a drug.
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We're all gonna die. I read this article and it scared the *kitten* out of me. Apparently there was a lot of resistance from the medical community in the past about the destruction and cancer-causing effects sugar creates in the body. I NEED HELP kicking sugar. It's so hard man.1
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if that's true then why wasn't cancer higher 300 years a go verses now?masterscallit wrote: »We're all gonna die. I read this article and it scared the *kitten* out of me. Apparently there was a lot of resistance from the medical community in the past about the destruction and cancer-causing effects sugar creates in the body. I NEED HELP kicking sugar. It's so hard man.
Too much of one thing is not good for you. Moderation is okay. In the last twenty years cancer is up, so is the amount of aspartame (derived from weed killer. And you wonder why people are realizing its not such a good idea to consume it after all), preservatives in the food to make it last longer on the shelves. The amount of chemicals found in our water that causes people to get sick. May I go on?
If you're really worried about it, drink more tea, put lemon in your water. It's been known to help your body become an inhospitable environment for cancer cells to grow. (Doctors don't want their patients to know that. Otherwise they would be out of a job.)
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if that's true then why wasn't cancer higher 300 years a go verses now?masterscallit wrote: »We're all gonna die. I read this article and it scared the *kitten* out of me. Apparently there was a lot of resistance from the medical community in the past about the destruction and cancer-causing effects sugar creates in the body. I NEED HELP kicking sugar. It's so hard man.
Too much of one thing is not good for you. Moderation is okay. In the last twenty years cancer is up, so is the amount of aspartame (derived from weed killer. And you wonder why people are realizing its not such a good idea to consume it after all), preservatives in the food to make it last longer on the shelves. The amount of chemicals found in our water that causes people to get sick. May I go on?
If you're really worried about it, drink more tea, put lemon in your water. It's been know to help your body become an inhospitable environment for cancer cells to grow. (Doctors don't want their patients to know that. Otherwise they would be out of a job.)
Aspartame is not dangerous, nor is it made from weed killer. It's made from protein (specifically, the amino acids aspartate and phenylalanine), and it was accidentally discovered during attempts to synthesize the stomach hormone gastrin for research into ulcer treatment - a researcher licked his finger and discovered that one of his intermediate products was very, very sweet tasting.
The increased incidence of cancer is likely due to an increased lifespan coupled with an increased ability to detect cancer - many people diagnosed today would have lived and died with undiagnosed cancer forty years ago.21 -
if that's true then why wasn't cancer higher 300 years a go verses now?masterscallit wrote: »We're all gonna die. I read this article and it scared the *kitten* out of me. Apparently there was a lot of resistance from the medical community in the past about the destruction and cancer-causing effects sugar creates in the body. I NEED HELP kicking sugar. It's so hard man.
Too much of one thing is not good for you. Moderation is okay. In the last twenty years cancer is up, so is the amount of aspartame (derived from weed killer. And you wonder why people are realizing its not such a good idea to consume it after all), preservatives in the food to make it last longer on the shelves. The amount of chemicals found in our water that causes people to get sick. May I go on?
If you're really worried about it, drink more tea, put lemon in your water. It's been known to help your body become an inhospitable environment for cancer cells to grow. (Doctors don't want their patients to know that. Otherwise they would be out of a job.)
No. LOL.
If you'd like to learn the truth about aspartame rather than the fearmongering passed around in hack websites, how about some actual scientific information on aspartame, written by a molecular biologist?: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p18 -
if that's true then why wasn't cancer higher 300 years a go verses now?masterscallit wrote: »We're all gonna die. I read this article and it scared the *kitten* out of me. Apparently there was a lot of resistance from the medical community in the past about the destruction and cancer-causing effects sugar creates in the body. I NEED HELP kicking sugar. It's so hard man.
Too much of one thing is not good for you. Moderation is okay. In the last twenty years cancer is up, so is the amount of aspartame (derived from weed killer. And you wonder why people are realizing its not such a good idea to consume it after all), preservatives in the food to make it last longer on the shelves. The amount of chemicals found in our water that causes people to get sick. May I go on?
If you're really worried about it, drink more tea, put lemon in your water. It's been known to help your body become an inhospitable environment for cancer cells to grow. (Doctors don't want their patients to know that. Otherwise they would be out of a job.)
In addition to what rankinsect mentioned, the lemon cancer thing is based on the theory that changing your body's pH level to be more alkaline lowers your cancer risk but that's pseudoscience since your body can only stay in a .10 range and if you try to change it your body will fight it. If you succeed in changing it you will become very ill and die.4 -
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Aspartame is weed killer? That's a new one.
Holy moly.... Amino acids kill weeds now!11 -
cerise_noir wrote: »Aspartame is weed killer? That's a new one.
Holy moly.... Amino acids kill weeds now!
They are a diabolical breed.5 -
Nothing actually wrong with someone giving up sugar in my view; if nothing else it reduces a lot of calorie dense foods that are far too easy to pick up and scoff down (chocolate, flavored milk, sodas) and forces people to be more mindful of what is going into their diets.4
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This thread ...
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http://www.rense.com/general50/killer.htm
a really good read. I just know if I have anything with aspartame in it. I'm too sick to do anything. I stopped getting severe migraines.3
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