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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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This is the best post on this thread in ages.poisonesse wrote: »Mine is that CICO isn't always a firm rule. You diet all your life, constantly going from one plan to another, you lose, you gain, you lose, you gain... and then you hit your elderly years. Guess what? CICO no longer rules like it did when you were younger. Your body has gotten used to your fickle ways, and now will turn every bite that enters your mouth into fat, because it KNOWS you're going to starve it again. Getting the weight to finally start to melt from an elderly, slowed down metabolism can be pure HELL! So there ya go, that's my unpopular opinion.
Decades of non-muscle-sparing extreme-deficit yo-yo dieting can certainly take a toll on our CO via a down-spiral of adaptive thermogenesis. This has been particularly easy to fall into, in a culture that has valued women for thinness more than for strength (especially in our younger years), and emphasized (sometimes abusive) standards of beauty over health.
I'm sorry to hear that that's where you find yourself now. It's sadly common.
The good news is that it's not too late. We can demonstrably increase strength well into into our 80s, and stand a chance of reversing at least some of that adaptation, which has the side benefit of enhancing bone strength, improving the sense of balance and coordination that helps prevent life-changing falls, and yes, even looking better as a result.
(Is there an unpopular opinion in there somewhere? We'll see . . . .
(P.S. I'm 61. I suspect one reason my NEAT is higher than it "should" be is that I was stupidly fat and happy for decades while other women my age were conscientiously VLCD-ing repeatedly.)
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VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
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How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
I'm curious @VintageFeline... what is a casserole in the UK? Is there anything you'd call a casserole, or is it just not a term used?
Usually cheap cuts of meat with root veg slow cooked. Basically a stew but would be cooked in a casserole dish (which is a specific kind of oven dish) in the oven.
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/collection/casserole
Ooh, thanks for the link! I have some new recipes to try.
Make sure to do one with dumplings because they are beyond delicious.
Mmm.. I do love a good dumpling. I'm leaning toward the beef stew with horseradish dumplings. Sounds like a great weekend dinner.
I guess I should dump an unpopular opinion in here somewhere... recipes should always be given in metric measurements. That's probably not unpopular enough though... how about, there's nothing wrong with eating something purely for the sake of enjoyment.
I liked the look of that one too and the goulash. Is suet easy for you to come by or do you make a slightly altered dumpling?
And I agree, eating for pleasure is fine by me if it's not impacting weight or health.0 -
CICO may rule, but my CO at 53 is dramatically different (much lower) than it was at 23 and I certainly move and exercise much more at 53.
At 23 I had a desk job, rode to work, watched TV and or read books any evening/weekend I wasn't socializing- and at that time for me socializing mostly meant going to a restaurant. I ate 2400 calories daily and remained a healthy weight and had no regular exercise.
At 53 I swim 4-5 hours a week, take two or 3 hour long cardio classes, have just started strength training, walk at least 8000 steps a day, etc. I can eat only about 1400 to 1500 cal or I gain weight. As I said CICO may rule but the CO has changed markedly.
I suspect this will change things for the better...7 -
VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
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How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
I'm curious @VintageFeline... what is a casserole in the UK? Is there anything you'd call a casserole, or is it just not a term used?
Usually cheap cuts of meat with root veg slow cooked. Basically a stew but would be cooked in a casserole dish (which is a specific kind of oven dish) in the oven.
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/collection/casserole
Ooh, thanks for the link! I have some new recipes to try.
Make sure to do one with dumplings because they are beyond delicious.
Mmm.. I do love a good dumpling. I'm leaning toward the beef stew with horseradish dumplings. Sounds like a great weekend dinner.
I guess I should dump an unpopular opinion in here somewhere... recipes should always be given in metric measurements. That's probably not unpopular enough though... how about, there's nothing wrong with eating something purely for the sake of enjoyment.
I liked the look of that one too and the goulash. Is suet easy for you to come by or do you make a slightly altered dumpling?
And I agree, eating for pleasure is fine by me if it's not impacting weight or health.
Yep, the goulash looks delicious too! In a pinch I could use lard, which is abundant here, but I'll probably check a local butcher first for suet though. They ought to have some on hand even if they don't normally sell it.0 -
VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
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How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".4 -
VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
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How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
Correct. I'm in MN. You cook a hotdish in a casserole. The hotdish is the food, the casserole is the dish you bake it in.4 -
middlehaitch wrote: »poisonesse wrote: »Mine is that CICO isn't always a firm rule. You diet all your life, constantly going from one plan to another, you lose, you gain, you lose, you gain... and then you hit your elderly years. Guess what? CICO no longer rules like it did when you were younger. Your body has gotten used to your fickle ways, and now will turn every bite that enters your mouth into fat, because it KNOWS you're going to starve it again. Getting the weight to finally start to melt from an elderly, slowed down metabolism can be pure HELL! So there ya go, that's my unpopular opinion.
Decades of non-muscle-sparing extreme-deficit yo-yo dieting can certainly take a toll on our CO via a down-spiral of adaptive thermogenesis. This has been particularly easy to fall into, in a culture that has valued women for thinness more than for strength (especially in our younger years), and emphasized (sometimes abusive) standards of beauty over health.
I'm sorry to hear that that's where you find yourself now. It's sadly common.
The good news is that it's not too late. We can demonstrably increase strength well into into our 80s, and stand a chance of reversing at least some of that adaptation, which has the side benefit of enhancing bone strength, improving the sense of balance and coordination that helps prevent life-changing falls, and yes, even looking better as a result.
(Is there an unpopular opinion in there somewhere? We'll see . . . .
(P.S. I'm 61. I suspect one reason my NEAT is higher than it "should" be is that I was stupidly fat and happy for decades while other women my age were conscientiously VLCD-ing repeatedly.)
@AnnPT77 have I told you lately that I love you?
Well said.
About to turn 64 and my TDEE is very good for my age and size.
Cheers, h.
(Blush) Aw, shucks . . . so kind! Admiration's mutual, I assure you.
@HeliumIsNoble - thanks: Y'wanna come in here on a group hug, too?
Sorry, folks - we now return you from this brief older women's love-fest, to your regularly-scheduled contentious MFP thread. 11 -
VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
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How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
I (in the US) often call lasagna a casserole. Around here pretty much anything that is saucy and cooked in a casserole dish is a casserole dish is a casserole.2 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
I (in the US) often call lasagna a casserole. Around here pretty much anything that is saucy and cooked in a casserole dish is a casserole dish is a casserole.
Lasagna would not qualify then since it is made in a pan, not a casserole dish.1 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
I (in the US) often call lasagna a casserole. Around here pretty much anything that is saucy and cooked in a casserole dish is a casserole dish is a casserole.
Lasagna would not qualify then since it is made in a pan, not a casserole dish.
It's not lasagna if you cook it in a casserole dish?1 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
I (in the US) often call lasagna a casserole. Around here pretty much anything that is saucy and cooked in a casserole dish is a casserole dish is a casserole.
Lasagna would not qualify then since it is made in a pan, not a casserole dish.
It's not lasagna if you cook it in a casserole dish?
Nope. It has to be flat and either square or rectangular (depending on the pan you use). Casserole dishes are bowls that you bake in and lasagna should not have a bowl shape.
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Is this really an argument that is being had?
What has happened to this thread?7 -
I am a minnesotan. For me, and many others I know, a casserole is baked in the oven in a pottery or casserole dish. A hotdish is made on the stovetop. Casseroles do not always have condensed soup, or crunchy toppings. They can be any combination of meat, potatoes, veg, pasta and a sauce or soup and can be layered or mixed as can hotdishes.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
I (in the US) often call lasagna a casserole. Around here pretty much anything that is saucy and cooked in a casserole dish is a casserole dish is a casserole.
Lasagna would not qualify then since it is made in a pan, not a casserole dish.
It's not lasagna if you cook it in a casserole dish?
Nope. It has to be flat and either square or rectangular (depending on the pan you use). Casserole dishes are bowls that you bake in and lasagna should not have a bowl shape.
I'm not a huge casserole person but I'm confident my mom made a variety of them in a 9x13 Pyrex dish. I've never heard that a casserole dish was exclusively bowl shaped...5 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Is this really an argument that is being had?
What has happened to this thread?
It is Friday and we are bored?4 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
I (in the US) often call lasagna a casserole. Around here pretty much anything that is saucy and cooked in a casserole dish is a casserole dish is a casserole.
Lasagna would not qualify then since it is made in a pan, not a casserole dish.
It's not lasagna if you cook it in a casserole dish?
Nope. It has to be flat and either square or rectangular (depending on the pan you use). Casserole dishes are bowls that you bake in and lasagna should not have a bowl shape.
I'm not a huge casserole person but I'm confident my mom made a variety of them in a 9x13 Pyrex dish. I've never heard that a casserole dish was exclusively bowl shaped...
Well, a casserole dish is called such because casserole. That said, You could make a casserole in another dish but given that it seems to be us in the UK that has a very narrow scope of what a casserole constitutes then it seems be less relevant! And don't get me started on green bean casserole being called casserole.2 -
I have never heard of a hotdish being cooked on the stovetop. What ingredients would that have? Where in MN is that the definition?I am a minnesotan. For me, and many others I know, a casserole is baked in the oven in a pottery or casserole dish. A hotdish is made on the stovetop. Casseroles do not always have condensed soup, or crunchy toppings. They can be any combination of meat, potatoes, veg, pasta and a sauce or soup and can be layered or mixed as can hotdishes.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
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WJS_jeepster wrote: »
I have never heard of a hotdish being cooked on the stovetop. What ingredients would that have? Where in MN is that the definition?I am a minnesotan. For me, and many others I know, a casserole is baked in the oven in a pottery or casserole dish. A hotdish is made on the stovetop. Casseroles do not always have condensed soup, or crunchy toppings. They can be any combination of meat, potatoes, veg, pasta and a sauce or soup and can be layered or mixed as can hotdishes.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
At least in my family, anything cooked on the stove involving multiple ingredients (meat and veg, typically, with some kind of broth or sauce and usually potato or rice) is either a "soup" (thinner) or a "stew" (thicker).0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
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How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
I (in the US) often call lasagna a casserole. Around here pretty much anything that is saucy and cooked in a casserole dish is a casserole dish is a casserole.
Lasagna would not qualify then since it is made in a pan, not a casserole dish.
It's not lasagna if you cook it in a casserole dish?
Nope. It has to be flat and either square or rectangular (depending on the pan you use). Casserole dishes are bowls that you bake in and lasagna should not have a bowl shape.
I'm not a huge casserole person but I'm confident my mom made a variety of them in a 9x13 Pyrex dish. I've never heard that a casserole dish was exclusively bowl shaped...
The 9x13 is a glass baking dish. Casserole dishes are different (in my corner of the world).
One thing I absolutely love doing is gathering information about regional English so this has been fun. What does your family or your region call certain things?
These questions are rhetorical. I don't want to derail the thread further by actually having people answer.
Is it a jelly roll, a jelly doughnut, or a Bismark?
Do you drink from a drinking fountain, a water fountain, or a bubbler?
Do you eat subs, hoagies, or grinders?
Of course, there is the ultimate: soda or pop? (or Coke, or tonic)
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WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
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How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
I (in the US) often call lasagna a casserole. Around here pretty much anything that is saucy and cooked in a casserole dish is a casserole dish is a casserole.
Lasagna would not qualify then since it is made in a pan, not a casserole dish.
It's not lasagna if you cook it in a casserole dish?
Nope. It has to be flat and either square or rectangular (depending on the pan you use). Casserole dishes are bowls that you bake in and lasagna should not have a bowl shape.
I'm not a huge casserole person but I'm confident my mom made a variety of them in a 9x13 Pyrex dish. I've never heard that a casserole dish was exclusively bowl shaped...
The 9x13 is a glass baking dish. Casserole dishes are different (in my corner of the world).
One thing I absolutely love doing is gathering information about regional English so this has been fun. What does your family or your region call certain things?
These questions are rhetorical. I don't want to derail the thread further by actually having people answer.
Is it a jelly roll, a jelly doughnut, or a Bismark?
Do you drink from a drinking fountain, a water fountain, or a bubbler?
Do you eat subs, hoagies, or grinders?
Of course, there is the ultimate: soda or pop? (or Coke, or tonic)
What the hell, the thread can't get any more derailed than it already is - and your questions are interesting!
From Queens NY
Jelly doughnut
Drinking fountain (water fountains are those big things in malls)
Subs
Soda (never heard of pop until we moved to CA)1 -
To me a jelly donut is a donut with jelly filling. A jelly roll is more like this:
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estherdragonbat wrote: »To me a jelly donut is a donut with jelly filling. A jelly roll is more like this:
Yes, perfect, exactly what a jellyroll should be!3 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
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How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
I (in the US) often call lasagna a casserole. Around here pretty much anything that is saucy and cooked in a casserole dish is a casserole dish is a casserole.
Lasagna would not qualify then since it is made in a pan, not a casserole dish.
It's not lasagna if you cook it in a casserole dish?
Nope. It has to be flat and either square or rectangular (depending on the pan you use). Casserole dishes are bowls that you bake in and lasagna should not have a bowl shape.
I'm not a huge casserole person but I'm confident my mom made a variety of them in a 9x13 Pyrex dish. I've never heard that a casserole dish was exclusively bowl shaped...
The 9x13 is a glass baking dish. Casserole dishes are different (in my corner of the world).
One thing I absolutely love doing is gathering information about regional English so this has been fun. What does your family or your region call certain things?
These questions are rhetorical. I don't want to derail the thread further by actually having people answer.
Is it a jelly roll, a jelly doughnut, or a Bismark?
Do you drink from a drinking fountain, a water fountain, or a bubbler?
Do you eat subs, hoagies, or grinders?
Of course, there is the ultimate: soda or pop? (or Coke, or tonic)
The US use of casserole confuses the bejeezus out of me, it can go in the pile with their use of "salad" . Australians go with the UK version of casserole.
I googled Bismark - I'd call it a JAM doughnut. (aus/UK jam = US jelly. Aus/UK jelly = US jello)
The roll pictured above would be a Swiss Roll, although it looks like it's trying to be a fancy pink Lamington.
I drink from a drink fountain.
I eat a roll. (we have subway, people don't really call them subs.... It's more like, "what did you get for lunch?", "I got Subway".)
And.... It's a soft drink.0 -
Ah, and to me, a Swiss roll is only a Swiss roll if the cake is chocolate, the inner frosting is white and, if there's anything on the outside of the cake, it'd be a thin layer of chocolate frosting, though leaving it plain is ok too.6
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estherdragonbat wrote: »Ah, and to me, a Swiss roll is only a Swiss roll if the cake is chocolate, the inner frosting is white and, if there's anything on the outside of the cake, it'd be a thin layer of chocolate frosting, though leaving it plain is ok too.
Especially if it is made by Hostess or Little Debbie 3 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
I (in the US) often call lasagna a casserole. Around here pretty much anything that is saucy and cooked in a casserole dish is a casserole dish is a casserole.
Lasagna would not qualify then since it is made in a pan, not a casserole dish.
It's not lasagna if you cook it in a casserole dish?
Nope. It has to be flat and either square or rectangular (depending on the pan you use). Casserole dishes are bowls that you bake in and lasagna should not have a bowl shape.
I'm not a huge casserole person but I'm confident my mom made a variety of them in a 9x13 Pyrex dish. I've never heard that a casserole dish was exclusively bowl shaped...
The 9x13 is a glass baking dish. Casserole dishes are different (in my corner of the world).
One thing I absolutely love doing is gathering information about regional English so this has been fun. What does your family or your region call certain things?
These questions are rhetorical. I don't want to derail the thread further by actually having people answer.
Is it a jelly roll, a jelly doughnut, or a Bismark?
Do you drink from a drinking fountain, a water fountain, or a bubbler?
Do you eat subs, hoagies, or grinders?
Of course, there is the ultimate: soda or pop? (or Coke, or tonic)
What the hell, the thread can't get any more derailed than it already is - and your questions are interesting!
From Queens NY
Jelly doughnut
Drinking fountain (water fountains are those big things in malls)
Subs
Soda (never heard of pop until we moved to CA)
South Central Wisconsin:
Bismark
Bubbler
Subs
Pop
I moved to southeast Wisconsin and everything is the same except soft drinks are now soda.
Interesting trivia about bubbler: Kohler is a Wisconsin company and back in the late 1800's they sold a product called the "Kohler Sanitary Bubbling Drinking Fountain" where the water bubbled straight up from a central pipe instead of in an arc from the side. This got shortened to "bubbler" in Wisconsin (makes sense) and one little pocket somewhere in Pennsylvania where they had a really good salesman.
ETA: the basic cake doughnut around here is called a "fry cake"2 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
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How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
I (in the US) often call lasagna a casserole. Around here pretty much anything that is saucy and cooked in a casserole dish is a casserole dish is a casserole.
Lasagna would not qualify then since it is made in a pan, not a casserole dish.
It's not lasagna if you cook it in a casserole dish?
Nope. It has to be flat and either square or rectangular (depending on the pan you use). Casserole dishes are bowls that you bake in and lasagna should not have a bowl shape.
I'm not a huge casserole person but I'm confident my mom made a variety of them in a 9x13 Pyrex dish. I've never heard that a casserole dish was exclusively bowl shaped...
The 9x13 is a glass baking dish. Casserole dishes are different (in my corner of the world).
One thing I absolutely love doing is gathering information about regional English so this has been fun. What does your family or your region call certain things?
These questions are rhetorical. I don't want to derail the thread further by actually having people answer.
Is it a jelly roll, a jelly doughnut, or a Bismark?
Do you drink from a drinking fountain, a water fountain, or a bubbler?
Do you eat subs, hoagies, or grinders?
Of course, there is the ultimate: soda or pop? (or Coke, or tonic)
The US use of casserole confuses the bejeezus out of me, it can go in the pile with their use of "salad" . Australians go with the UK version of casserole.
I googled Bismark - I'd call it a JAM doughnut. (aus/UK jam = US jelly. Aus/UK jelly = US jello)
The roll pictured above would be a Swiss Roll, although it looks like it's trying to be a fancy pink Lamington.
I drink from a drink fountain.
I eat a roll. (we have subway, people don't really call them subs.... It's more like, "what did you get for lunch?", "I got Subway".)
And.... It's a soft drink.
Now you are going to have all the non antipodeans wondering what a 'lammington' is.
@estherdragonbat showed a jam roll, aka jam rolly polly- if suet is used, or Swiss roll- that usually had cream as well as jam.
The subway type thing is either a bun, muffin, or bap,
Pop, or fuzzy pop.
These are my northern England interpretations.
My Canadian ones are similar to the USA.
Some days I find it helI being bilingual- in the U.K. I speak Canadian and in Canada I speak English.
Oh and a casserole was something the posh folk ate, we had stew- didn't matter what it was, if it was cooked in the oven in one pot it was stew.
Cheers, h.2 -
middlehaitch wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »
+1. It's like when people say "I'm eating cauliflower pizza". IT AIN'T PIZZA if it's cauliflower.All of this dairy talk brings up an unpopular opinion that I have:
I hate the very concept of alternative milks. Okay, I get it, if you have a medical reason and can't process dairy then use the almond/soy/cashew or whatever milk in your smoothie/coffee/cereal, etc. Or, get Lactiad. I've seen nothing that convinces me that they are healthier or better alternatives to plain ol' dairy. They may be lower calories, but that doesn't automatically make them more nutritious.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
How about when people go on about a meatless lasagna.
Ah, you mean a casserole.
I'm Sicilian so that really offends me... lol!
Even though the meatless sauce is still layered with sheets of pasta?
Lol, still not lasagna...
I'm in the UK and we don't use casserole as a descriptor for such a broad range of items as in the US (and certainly never for anything with pasta) so I don't know what else we'd call a pasta layered dish identical in every way to traditional lasagne save for the sauce. Just like pasta cooked with a sauce in the oven is pasta bake and not casserole which I think is what it would be called in the US (though I may be remembering that incorrectly).
Just to add, I understand it's not a traditional dish but then there are lots of variations within many cultures. It's just the passage of time and natural progression.
Not everyone in the US calls the same things casseroles. What you described would also be called a pasta bake around here. Casseroles are meat, veggies, noodles, and sauce made from condensed soup all mixed together and baked in a casserole dish . . . sometimes with a topping of crushed potato chips or french fried onions (think green bean casserole).
Our neighbors just over the river to the west (aka Minnesotans) call a casserole a "hot dish".
I (in the US) often call lasagna a casserole. Around here pretty much anything that is saucy and cooked in a casserole dish is a casserole dish is a casserole.
Lasagna would not qualify then since it is made in a pan, not a casserole dish.
It's not lasagna if you cook it in a casserole dish?
Nope. It has to be flat and either square or rectangular (depending on the pan you use). Casserole dishes are bowls that you bake in and lasagna should not have a bowl shape.
I'm not a huge casserole person but I'm confident my mom made a variety of them in a 9x13 Pyrex dish. I've never heard that a casserole dish was exclusively bowl shaped...
The 9x13 is a glass baking dish. Casserole dishes are different (in my corner of the world).
One thing I absolutely love doing is gathering information about regional English so this has been fun. What does your family or your region call certain things?
These questions are rhetorical. I don't want to derail the thread further by actually having people answer.
Is it a jelly roll, a jelly doughnut, or a Bismark?
Do you drink from a drinking fountain, a water fountain, or a bubbler?
Do you eat subs, hoagies, or grinders?
Of course, there is the ultimate: soda or pop? (or Coke, or tonic)
The US use of casserole confuses the bejeezus out of me, it can go in the pile with their use of "salad" . Australians go with the UK version of casserole.
I googled Bismark - I'd call it a JAM doughnut. (aus/UK jam = US jelly. Aus/UK jelly = US jello)
The roll pictured above would be a Swiss Roll, although it looks like it's trying to be a fancy pink Lamington.
I drink from a drink fountain.
I eat a roll. (we have subway, people don't really call them subs.... It's more like, "what did you get for lunch?", "I got Subway".)
And.... It's a soft drink.
Now you are going to have all the non antipodeans wondering what a 'lammington' is.
@estherdragonbat showed a jam roll, aka jam rolly polly- if suet is used, or Swiss roll- that usually had cream as well as jam.
The subway type thing is either a bun, muffin, or bap,
Pop, or fuzzy pop.
These are my northern England interpretations.
My Canadian ones are similar to the USA.
Some days I find it helI being bilingual- in the U.K. I speak Canadian and in Canada I speak English.
Oh and a casserole was something the posh folk ate, we had stew- didn't matter what it was, if it was cooked in the oven in one pot it was stew.
Cheers, h.
Lol! Sir Winston called Americans and Brits " one people separated by a common language"2 -
And as a Canadian, I'm sort of used to being bi-lingual in British and American English. (Technically I'm bi-lingual in English and French, but after so many years outside Quebec, my skills have suffered). So, I get my temperature in Celsius but auto-convert to Farenheit when chatting with my online friends in the US. I don't get fussed whether you spell it "favor" or "favour". I probably know more American history through osmosis from TV, books, and movies than I do Canadian, despite having actually studied it.
Not all of this has to do with language, of course, but I'm used to accommodating either group.6 -
Hey, could we rewind here? Salad? Does it seriously actually have a significant difference in meaning across the pond, or was that mostly a humorous remark?1
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