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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?

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  • mph323
    mph323 Posts: 3,563 Member
    AB0215 wrote: »
    A calorie is not always a calorie...and it's not always just about calories in and calories out.

    A 200 calorie donut is definitely going to affect the body differently than a 200 calorie avocado....or 200 calories of steak...

    Can you elaborate here? Are you talking about weight loss or nutrition? If you're talking about nutrition, this is the least controversial concept on these boards.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    I asked Google. Apple cider is what we would probably call cloudy apple juice.

    that's it. you folks need to better distribute words

    Hard Cider
    Apple Juice
    Apple Cider

    Cider
    Apple Juice
    Cloudy Apple Juice


    Your language just needs a good re-balancing.

    Well no. We invented cider so we get to stipulate that it's always and forever alcoholic.

    There's apple juice from the supermarket, of varying qualities with cloudy being the fanciest but likely still pasteurised. Or you can buy apples/go to a hipster juice shop and get fresh/freshly squeezed apple juice.

    Calling any apple juice sans alcohol cider makes no sense whatsoever. Ask the Romans and native Britons who got together at the time and cemented the beverage as a staple drink.

    I think we can blame those Puritans you guys foisted over onto our continent for de-alcoholizing things. We're still dealing from the hangover those joyless gits left behind.

    Do you at least have alcoholic eggnogg? Cause that *kitten* is awesome.

    Yeah, we have both kinds of eggnog.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    Yes, people. Please remember that if any part of the country/world does something differently than Texas does it, they're doing it wrong and should be shamed for not being just like Texas.
    KC BBQ? Garbage cuz not just like Texas.
    Chili anywhere? Garbage cuz not just like Texas.
    Montana rodeos? Garbage cuz not just like Texas.
    Alabama football? Garbage cuz not in Texas.

    People shouldn't even be allowed to use these words to describe these things because Texas does them slightly different which completely invalidates what the entire rest of the country does.

    I don't know that Texas has its own style of pizza but if so, Chicago, NY and St Louis definitely need to stop calling their stuff pizza and start calling it garbage.

    I love Memphis BBQ personally, but NC and KC have good versions too.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,620 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    On that note, if I visit Texas for food, I'm getting TexMex. For BBQ, I'm going to Alabama, Tennessee, KC or the Carolinas.

    For North Carolina BBQ, eastern or western?

    Though I'm veggie and no longer would consume, I lived in NC for a while, and hubby and I developed opinions about this.

    Not trying to supplant (or dis) Pork Culture, but jackfruit with good BBQ sauce is tasty.
  • jdlobb
    jdlobb Posts: 1,232 Member
    edited September 2017
    Nah. Just KC barbecue is trash. I can get down on some Carolina style pork BBQ any day, and those vinegar and mustard based sauces are awesome.

    Not enough experience with Memphis BBQ to make a judgement, but as long as they don't smear it with sugar and tomato sauce, I think we'd get along.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Nah. Just KC barbecue is trash. I can get down on some Carolina style pork BBQ any day, and those vinegar and mustard based sauces are awesome.

    Not enough experience with Memphis BBQ to make a judgement, but as long as they don't smear it with sugar and tomato sauce, I think we'd get along.

    It's kind of like Kansas City, but it's often a thinner sauce and has more vinegar for a sweet-and-sour kinda thing. It's the one that tastes "right" to me, because I grew up not too far from there. Dry rubs are really popular for ribs in Memphis-style too.
  • jdlobb
    jdlobb Posts: 1,232 Member
    I love a good dry rib.
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    On that note, if I visit Texas for food, I'm getting TexMex. For BBQ, I'm going to Alabama, Tennessee, KC or the Carolinas.

    For North Carolina BBQ, eastern or western?

    Though I'm veggie and no longer would consume, I lived in NC for a while, and hubby and I developed opinions about this.

    I'll eat all of it. I just love BBQ. All sorts.

    Sort of like pizza. Thin crust, thick crust, Chicago, New York, fancy, papa john's...I like it all.
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    On that note, if I visit Texas for food, I'm getting TexMex. For BBQ, I'm going to Alabama, Tennessee, KC or the Carolinas.

    For North Carolina BBQ, eastern or western?

    Though I'm veggie and no longer would consume, I lived in NC for a while, and hubby and I developed opinions about this.

    Not trying to supplant (or dis) Pork Culture, but jackfruit with good BBQ sauce is tasty.

    I keep meaning to try that stuff, if only for the excuse to eat baked beans on the side for protein.
  • trinateegardens
    trinateegardens Posts: 15 Member
    It's unpopular to say that you exercise for calories, many often feel the goal would be superior if it's done for fitness. I exercise for calories and I don't mind not being superior. Fitness and enjoyment are just pleasant side effects.

    Many would discourage eating when not hungry. I don't find anything wrong with that. If my calories are accounted for, you bet your boots I'm going to eat hedonically and enjoy every single bite without the least bit of guilt, and I don't consider it to be an unhealthy relationship with food. I think it's perfectly normal to eat for the sole purpose of enjoying food as long as it's not detrimental to the weight loss process as a whole.

    Many people would consider going very low on calories after a high calorie day to be detrimental and something that could fuel a binge and restrict mentality. I'm not afraid of these tactics because I've never had an eating disorder and it's all calculated, planned, and relatively anxiety-free. I do it as a "naturally thin people mimicking" strategy not as a punishment. The way you mentally approach such a practice makes all the difference.

    If a high protein diet is not sustainable I feel it's perfectly okay to eat as much protein as is reasonably manageable. I feel for some people "high protein" is the new "low carb" (which was the new "low fat"), that is, a rigid panic inducing requirement for weight loss with no middle ground. A person's goals don't need to be identical to everyone else's, so if slightly higher muscle loss (the difference is not even that large) is an acceptable tradeoff for someone, then so be it.

    I don't believe that crash dieting is always bad. I'm very careful when I voice this opinion and I don't voice it often because it may be mistaken for promoting crash dieting for everyone, but there are cases where I believe it could be okay.

    I don't think people "need" to lift any more than they "need" to run. It's perfectly okay to not enjoy lifting and you're not inferior if you don't.

    Yes, I like using the treadmill. Sue me.

    Thsnk you for the comment on lifting. Lots of lifters look down on those who dont lift. I do what i enjoy, lots of different things
  • fatgirlandrobin
    fatgirlandrobin Posts: 34 Member
    My unpopular opinion is people need to focus on themselves and stop projecting onto/trying to "solve" other peoples problems for them, especially unsolicited advice. IE, telling a fat person what to do with their body. Like, who freaking cares if a person is fat? It's up to them to decide if they want to lose weight and how. Especially when it's strangers on the internet who have no personal connection to them. If it bothers you so much, speak out against businesses that profit on people being fat like the fast food and dieting industries. Telling a fat person they're "unhealthy" or "not doing enough" isn't anyone's business.
  • estherdragonbat
    estherdragonbat Posts: 5,283 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
    earlnabby wrote: »
    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    This is all correct.

    My family's cuisine is Eastern-European. "Lukshen" (i.e. egg noodles) are a thing in soup and casseroles. I wouldn't really class them as Asian nor Italian.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited September 2017
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
    earlnabby wrote: »
    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    This is all correct.

    My family's cuisine is Eastern-European. "Lukshen" (i.e. egg noodles) are a thing in soup and casseroles. I wouldn't really class them as Asian nor Italian.

    Yeah, I actually agree that central European noodles (and Eastern too) are a thing, they are the first I had, and I would agree that noodles is the generic and includes pasta. Clarified in a post on noodles specifically after the one you quoted. (Noodle casserole was a thing in '70s midwestern and western US cuisine too, but one I opted out of strenuously and am glad is less common too, although I found the cream of mushroom soup or canned tuna or ruining perfectly good leftover turkey the real crimes thereof.)

    I do agree with what I saw as the key points of VintageFeline's post (not all that seriously) re stew and chili with noodles.
  • VintageFeline
    VintageFeline Posts: 6,771 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
    earlnabby wrote: »
    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    This is all correct.

    My family's cuisine is Eastern-European. "Lukshen" (i.e. egg noodles) are a thing in soup and casseroles. I wouldn't really class them as Asian nor Italian.

    Yeah, I actually agree that central European noodles (and Eastern too) are a thing, they are the first I had, and I would agree that noodles is the generic and includes pasta. Clarified in a post on noodles specifically after the one you quoted. (Noodle casserole was a thing in '70s midwestern and western US cuisine too, but one I opted out of strenuously and am glad is less common too, although I found the cream of mushroom soup or canned tuna or ruining perfectly good leftover turkey the real crimes thereof.)

    I do agree with what I saw as the key points of VintageFeline's post (not all that seriously) re stew and chili with noodles.

    I'll give you the inclusion of Eatern European, I was making sweeping statements, as you do.

    The thing about noodles as a catch all is it's conversationally clunky. "What's for dinner?", "Noodles", What type of noodles?", "Pasta". We could have got there without the middle two sentences; "Dinner?", "Pasta". One and done.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
    earlnabby wrote: »
    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    This is all correct.

    My family's cuisine is Eastern-European. "Lukshen" (i.e. egg noodles) are a thing in soup and casseroles. I wouldn't really class them as Asian nor Italian.

    Yeah, I actually agree that central European noodles (and Eastern too) are a thing, they are the first I had, and I would agree that noodles is the generic and includes pasta. Clarified in a post on noodles specifically after the one you quoted. (Noodle casserole was a thing in '70s midwestern and western US cuisine too, but one I opted out of strenuously and am glad is less common too, although I found the cream of mushroom soup or canned tuna or ruining perfectly good leftover turkey the real crimes thereof.)

    I do agree with what I saw as the key points of VintageFeline's post (not all that seriously) re stew and chili with noodles.

    I'll give you the inclusion of Eatern European, I was making sweeping statements, as you do.

    The thing about noodles as a catch all is it's conversationally clunky. "What's for dinner?", "Noodles", What type of noodles?", "Pasta". We could have got there without the middle two sentences; "Dinner?", "Pasta". One and done.

    It's funny, I keep thinking of other noodle dishes I had as a kid now that this topic has percolated some. A favorite of mine that my mother used to make was Swedish meatballs with noodles.

    (This is no longer intended to be anything beyond sharing memories.)
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    My unpopular opinion is that jogging is awful, running is even worse, but sprinting is fun. Running is exhausting and not actually that fast and there's better methods of cardio to lose weight. At least with sprinting you're going really fast and being slightly exhausted at the end is kind of the point. Try to look up a sprinting program, though, and nothing.

    All those girls who tell me I can't lose weight without tons of running... ugh.

    Running being exhausting seems like an extremely subjective thing. I mean, yeah, it burns energy (like lots of activities), but if you're properly conditioned, you should be able to run for quite a while. And I can't really understand why being exhausted at the end of sprinting is acceptable because it's the point (why is it the point of sprinting only, why can't it also be part of some running workouts?).

    I don't think many people choose running because they think it's the fastest form of transportation.

    I don't run to lose weight. I run to run, I run because it's one of the funnest activities for me. I get it's not for everyone, but these objections seem really odd.

    Yeah, I run because I find it enjoyable and a great stress release. And occasionally because I can run home from my office in not that much more time than public transportation takes, so it's a great way to multitask two things I want to do (go home, work out).
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    It's unpopular to say that you exercise for calories, many often feel the goal would be superior if it's done for fitness. I exercise for calories and I don't mind not being superior. Fitness and enjoyment are just pleasant side effects.

    Many would discourage eating when not hungry. I don't find anything wrong with that. If my calories are accounted for, you bet your boots I'm going to eat hedonically and enjoy every single bite without the least bit of guilt, and I don't consider it to be an unhealthy relationship with food. I think it's perfectly normal to eat for the sole purpose of enjoying food as long as it's not detrimental to the weight loss process as a whole.

    Many people would consider going very low on calories after a high calorie day to be detrimental and something that could fuel a binge and restrict mentality. I'm not afraid of these tactics because I've never had an eating disorder and it's all calculated, planned, and relatively anxiety-free. I do it as a "naturally thin people mimicking" strategy not as a punishment. The way you mentally approach such a practice makes all the difference.

    If a high protein diet is not sustainable I feel it's perfectly okay to eat as much protein as is reasonably manageable. I feel for some people "high protein" is the new "low carb" (which was the new "low fat"), that is, a rigid panic inducing requirement for weight loss with no middle ground. A person's goals don't need to be identical to everyone else's, so if slightly higher muscle loss (the difference is not even that large) is an acceptable tradeoff for someone, then so be it.

    I don't believe that crash dieting is always bad. I'm very careful when I voice this opinion and I don't voice it often because it may be mistaken for promoting crash dieting for everyone, but there are cases where I believe it could be okay.

    I don't think people "need" to lift any more than they "need" to run. It's perfectly okay to not enjoy lifting and you're not inferior if you don't.

    Yes, I like using the treadmill. Sue me.

    Thsnk you for the comment on lifting. Lots of lifters look down on those who dont lift. I do what i enjoy, lots of different things

    You do realize that resistance exercise is recommended by the CDC for sustained good health? It's not just the domain of some bros who want to flex in too tight t-shirts.

    https://www.cdc.gov/physicalactivity/basics/adults/index.htm
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,620 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
    earlnabby wrote: »
    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    This is all correct.

    My family's cuisine is Eastern-European. "Lukshen" (i.e. egg noodles) are a thing in soup and casseroles. I wouldn't really class them as Asian nor Italian.

    Yeah, I actually agree that central European noodles (and Eastern too) are a thing, they are the first I had, and I would agree that noodles is the generic and includes pasta. Clarified in a post on noodles specifically after the one you quoted. (Noodle casserole was a thing in '70s midwestern and western US cuisine too, but one I opted out of strenuously and am glad is less common too, although I found the cream of mushroom soup or canned tuna or ruining perfectly good leftover turkey the real crimes thereof.)

    I do agree with what I saw as the key points of VintageFeline's post (not all that seriously) re stew and chili with noodles.

    I'll give you the inclusion of Eatern European, I was making sweeping statements, as you do.

    The thing about noodles as a catch all is it's conversationally clunky. "What's for dinner?", "Noodles", What type of noodles?", "Pasta". We could have got there without the middle two sentences; "Dinner?", "Pasta". One and done.

    Not done. "What type of pasta?" "Penne". And even "What type of penne?" "Quinoa".

    ;):);)
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    jdlobb wrote: »
    Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.

    I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.

    IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.
    earlnabby wrote: »
    We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.

    Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.

    This is all correct.

    My family's cuisine is Eastern-European. "Lukshen" (i.e. egg noodles) are a thing in soup and casseroles. I wouldn't really class them as Asian nor Italian.

    Yeah, I actually agree that central European noodles (and Eastern too) are a thing, they are the first I had, and I would agree that noodles is the generic and includes pasta. Clarified in a post on noodles specifically after the one you quoted. (Noodle casserole was a thing in '70s midwestern and western US cuisine too, but one I opted out of strenuously and am glad is less common too, although I found the cream of mushroom soup or canned tuna or ruining perfectly good leftover turkey the real crimes thereof.)

    I do agree with what I saw as the key points of VintageFeline's post (not all that seriously) re stew and chili with noodles.

    I'll give you the inclusion of Eatern European, I was making sweeping statements, as you do.

    The thing about noodles as a catch all is it's conversationally clunky. "What's for dinner?", "Noodles", What type of noodles?", "Pasta". We could have got there without the middle two sentences; "Dinner?", "Pasta". One and done.

    The conversation tends to go more like "What's for dinner" "Tuna noodle casserole". End of conversation. The type of noodle would only come up when one is asking for the recipe. "What noodles do you use in your pasta salad?" "Tri-color shells"
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    My unpopular opinion is that jogging is awful, running is even worse, but sprinting is fun. Running is exhausting and not actually that fast and there's better methods of cardio to lose weight. At least with sprinting you're going really fast and being slightly exhausted at the end is kind of the point. Try to look up a sprinting program, though, and nothing.

    All those girls who tell me I can't lose weight without tons of running... ugh.

    Yeah, that's going to be an unpopular opinion with runners.

    Running and jogging are the same thing, btw.

    The point of running isn't necessarily to be fast, some of us are in it for endurance. Furthermore, the point of any exercise isn't weight loss, it's conditioning, fitness, and for some of us stress relief and mental health.

    I run because I like it, you obviously sprint because you like it, but I think you have a skewed view of what you're getting out an exercise program if you see it only as a means of achieving weight loss.
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