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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?
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A calorie is not always a calorie...and it's not always just about calories in and calories out.
A 200 calorie donut is definitely going to affect the body differently than a 200 calorie avocado....or 200 calories of steak...
Can you elaborate here? Are you talking about weight loss or nutrition? If you're talking about nutrition, this is the least controversial concept on these boards.2 -
stevencloser wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »I asked Google. Apple cider is what we would probably call cloudy apple juice.
that's it. you folks need to better distribute words
Hard Cider
Apple Juice
Apple Cider
Cider
Apple Juice
Cloudy Apple Juice
Your language just needs a good re-balancing.
Well no. We invented cider so we get to stipulate that it's always and forever alcoholic.
There's apple juice from the supermarket, of varying qualities with cloudy being the fanciest but likely still pasteurised. Or you can buy apples/go to a hipster juice shop and get fresh/freshly squeezed apple juice.
Calling any apple juice sans alcohol cider makes no sense whatsoever. Ask the Romans and native Britons who got together at the time and cemented the beverage as a staple drink.
I think we can blame those Puritans you guys foisted over onto our continent for de-alcoholizing things. We're still dealing from the hangover those joyless gits left behind.
Do you at least have alcoholic eggnogg? Cause that *kitten* is awesome.
Yeah, we have both kinds of eggnog.0 -
A calorie is not always a calorie...and it's not always just about calories in and calories out.
A 200 calorie donut is definitely going to affect the body differently than a 200 calorie avocado....or 200 calories of steak...
Your last sentence is true, but strikes me as kind of weird, as we eat a mix of foods.
The first sentence is, IMO, wrong, and has nothing to do with the second.
I think the mistake comes from thinking that there is such a thing as a "steak calorie" that is distinct from a "cookie calorie." Calorie is a unit of measurement, and your body cannot tell what food it came from. On the other hand, foods contribute lots of things besides calories, and in that sense, yes, obviously, steak is different from a cookie (which doesn't mean either can't be part of a sensible balanced diet).
When someone says "a calorie is a calorie," they mean for weight that, that if your TDEE is 2200 and you eat 1600 calories, you WILL lose fat (and weight, over time), whatever the calories are made up of.
They do not mean, and no one says, it's a straw man, that all FOODS are the same. It's just that foods are not the same thing as calories.
Do you get this, or do you still incorrectly assume that "a calorie is a calorie" means that foods are all the same? If so, I'd be curious to know why.5 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Yes, people. Please remember that if any part of the country/world does something differently than Texas does it, they're doing it wrong and should be shamed for not being just like Texas.
KC BBQ? Garbage cuz not just like Texas.
Chili anywhere? Garbage cuz not just like Texas.
Montana rodeos? Garbage cuz not just like Texas.
Alabama football? Garbage cuz not in Texas.
People shouldn't even be allowed to use these words to describe these things because Texas does them slightly different which completely invalidates what the entire rest of the country does.
I don't know that Texas has its own style of pizza but if so, Chicago, NY and St Louis definitely need to stop calling their stuff pizza and start calling it garbage.
I love Memphis BBQ personally, but NC and KC have good versions too.2 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »On that note, if I visit Texas for food, I'm getting TexMex. For BBQ, I'm going to Alabama, Tennessee, KC or the Carolinas.
For North Carolina BBQ, eastern or western?
Though I'm veggie and no longer would consume, I lived in NC for a while, and hubby and I developed opinions about this.
Not trying to supplant (or dis) Pork Culture, but jackfruit with good BBQ sauce is tasty.3 -
Nah. Just KC barbecue is trash. I can get down on some Carolina style pork BBQ any day, and those vinegar and mustard based sauces are awesome.
Not enough experience with Memphis BBQ to make a judgement, but as long as they don't smear it with sugar and tomato sauce, I think we'd get along.4 -
Nah. Just KC barbecue is trash. I can get down on some Carolina style pork BBQ any day, and those vinegar and mustard based sauces are awesome.
Not enough experience with Memphis BBQ to make a judgement, but as long as they don't smear it with sugar and tomato sauce, I think we'd get along.
It's kind of like Kansas City, but it's often a thinner sauce and has more vinegar for a sweet-and-sour kinda thing. It's the one that tastes "right" to me, because I grew up not too far from there. Dry rubs are really popular for ribs in Memphis-style too.0 -
I love a good dry rib.0
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WinoGelato wrote: »piperdown44 wrote: »French_Peasant wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »I did not know people felt so passionately about beans in chili (or lack thereof). But whatever your preference at no point can you call it a stew. Or soup. WTF is that about!? And serving it with spaghetti? You over the ponders are a weird lot.
As a Brit who experiences no regional variations of chili beyond are you fancy and put a bit of dark chocolate in and puts beans in if I have them and considers chili to be about the flavour more than anything (so I'm also cool with vegi varieties) I find this whole conversation entertaining. We probably break all kinds of rules though as it's most often served with rice here. Or loaded nachos.
I am partial to a chili cheese dog when on your fine shores though.
You just need to come back to the U.S. and go on a Chili Trail Pilgrimage. Or, better yet, a BBQ Trail Pilgrimage, if you want to see a real smackdown.
For the record, although I happily eat any and all chili and BBQ, I favor a Virginia vinegar sauce over ribs or pulled pork (brisket is way down the list) and I will kick anyone's butt in a chili cook-off with my white chicken chili. The secret ingredient? Evil.
No smackdown. KC BBQ is the best, end of story.
Oh, and chili always have beans. Texans don't know what they're talking about.
I agree with all this. KC born and raised and now living on the other side of the state.
chili with venison and beans is my favorite red chili but I'm incredibly partial to white chicken chili (or after thanksgiving white turkey chili) because it's a great opportunity for lots of cilantro and cumin.
And obviously I missed a lot yesterday in this thread and am catching up this morning over my non bullet proof coffee...
I know the masses won't agree (that's fine), but personally I also enjoy a veggie white chili with white beans and white hominy.
Since you've reawakened the chile/chili/chilly beast, I'll add this interesting antique, because it is about eating, sort of. Probably from nineteen-oughts to nineteen-twenties, with several concepts that young'uns will find difficult to parse:Little Willie, from the mirror, licked the mercury off*,
Thinking, in his childish error, it would cure the whooping cough**.
At the funeral, Willie's mother sadly said to Mrs. Brown:
"It was a chilly day for Willie, when the mercury went down***.
Interpretive section for Young Persons, i.e., those under about 60:
*In the olden days, the silvery backing on mirrors, to make them them reflective, was mercury. These days, the slightest amount of mercury requires a hazmat team. It's a miracle that your ancestors lived long enough to breed, honestly . . . especially as they probably didn't "do cardio".
**Before vaccinations, many small children died from whooping cough. But please feel free to skip them for your precious offspring, lest they get a swollen vaccination site, slight fever, or other signs of immune response.
***In the ubiquitous-mercury era, it was the motive force in thermometers. As temperature declined, it shrank - i.e., "went down", in a tubular thermometer - to register a lower temperature.
If you are old enough to find this little poem readily interpretable, and twisted enough to find it funny (or deluded into thinking earlier eras had no irony), check out the book "Ruthless Rhymes for Heartless Homes" (1902) by Harry Graham, available free on Amazon Kindle (and probably elsewhere) last I knew.
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »On that note, if I visit Texas for food, I'm getting TexMex. For BBQ, I'm going to Alabama, Tennessee, KC or the Carolinas.
For North Carolina BBQ, eastern or western?
Though I'm veggie and no longer would consume, I lived in NC for a while, and hubby and I developed opinions about this.
I'll eat all of it. I just love BBQ. All sorts.
Sort of like pizza. Thin crust, thick crust, Chicago, New York, fancy, papa john's...I like it all.2 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Carlos_421 wrote: »On that note, if I visit Texas for food, I'm getting TexMex. For BBQ, I'm going to Alabama, Tennessee, KC or the Carolinas.
For North Carolina BBQ, eastern or western?
Though I'm veggie and no longer would consume, I lived in NC for a while, and hubby and I developed opinions about this.
Not trying to supplant (or dis) Pork Culture, but jackfruit with good BBQ sauce is tasty.
I keep meaning to try that stuff, if only for the excuse to eat baked beans on the side for protein.2 -
A calorie is not always a calorie...and it's not always just about calories in and calories out.
A 200 calorie donut is definitely going to affect the body differently than a 200 calorie avocado....or 200 calories of steak...
Which no has said. Ever. It's apparent that you didn't read back much in the thread to see the other 14 people who brought this up and all the discussion around it.12 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »It's unpopular to say that you exercise for calories, many often feel the goal would be superior if it's done for fitness. I exercise for calories and I don't mind not being superior. Fitness and enjoyment are just pleasant side effects.
Many would discourage eating when not hungry. I don't find anything wrong with that. If my calories are accounted for, you bet your boots I'm going to eat hedonically and enjoy every single bite without the least bit of guilt, and I don't consider it to be an unhealthy relationship with food. I think it's perfectly normal to eat for the sole purpose of enjoying food as long as it's not detrimental to the weight loss process as a whole.
Many people would consider going very low on calories after a high calorie day to be detrimental and something that could fuel a binge and restrict mentality. I'm not afraid of these tactics because I've never had an eating disorder and it's all calculated, planned, and relatively anxiety-free. I do it as a "naturally thin people mimicking" strategy not as a punishment. The way you mentally approach such a practice makes all the difference.
If a high protein diet is not sustainable I feel it's perfectly okay to eat as much protein as is reasonably manageable. I feel for some people "high protein" is the new "low carb" (which was the new "low fat"), that is, a rigid panic inducing requirement for weight loss with no middle ground. A person's goals don't need to be identical to everyone else's, so if slightly higher muscle loss (the difference is not even that large) is an acceptable tradeoff for someone, then so be it.
I don't believe that crash dieting is always bad. I'm very careful when I voice this opinion and I don't voice it often because it may be mistaken for promoting crash dieting for everyone, but there are cases where I believe it could be okay.
I don't think people "need" to lift any more than they "need" to run. It's perfectly okay to not enjoy lifting and you're not inferior if you don't.
Yes, I like using the treadmill. Sue me.
Thsnk you for the comment on lifting. Lots of lifters look down on those who dont lift. I do what i enjoy, lots of different things2 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Here's a disturbing Easter veggie snack, should one try to change cake culture:
I am weirdly drawn to that bunny.....
That said, the fact I would eat just about everything in this thread so far would indicate my "nope" food threshold is low. I'm not saying I'd like it all but I'd give it a go.
But not subterranean, because marzipan.
Hrumpf.
What is wrong with marzipan? I make a bunch of these every holiday season:
When I was little, I was home sick and watched a daytime movie about a woman who poisoned her grandchildren with marzipan. I have never, ever been able to eat it.
Found it - 1989 movie/TV series called "Mother Love"
Well, that way'd likely do me in faster than arsenic on my powdered sugar donuts. I find marzipan way harder to resist. (Flowers in the Attic reference for the unfamiliar.)6 -
My unpopular opinion is people need to focus on themselves and stop projecting onto/trying to "solve" other peoples problems for them, especially unsolicited advice. IE, telling a fat person what to do with their body. Like, who freaking cares if a person is fat? It's up to them to decide if they want to lose weight and how. Especially when it's strangers on the internet who have no personal connection to them. If it bothers you so much, speak out against businesses that profit on people being fat like the fast food and dieting industries. Telling a fat person they're "unhealthy" or "not doing enough" isn't anyone's business.0
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lemurcat12 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.
I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.
IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.
Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.
This is all correct.
My family's cuisine is Eastern-European. "Lukshen" (i.e. egg noodles) are a thing in soup and casseroles. I wouldn't really class them as Asian nor Italian.1 -
My unpopular opinion is that jogging is awful, running is even worse, but sprinting is fun. Running is exhausting and not actually that fast and there's better methods of cardio to lose weight. At least with sprinting you're going really fast and being slightly exhausted at the end is kind of the point. Try to look up a sprinting program, though, and nothing.
All those girls who tell me I can't lose weight without tons of running... ugh.7 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Bry_Lander wrote: »I witnessed cake culturalism yesterday. I attended a meeting where one of the participants brought in donuts for his birthday, and wow, were people ever excited. People were coming and going from the meeting, and those joining late were told that it was Joe's birthday and that they better get a donut before it was too late.
Being a guest and an unfamiliar face, I was asked to get a donut maybe 4-5 times by different people. Towards lunch, there seemed to be some anxiety that I was going to experience deep regret if I didn't claim a donut for myself. It didn't fit into my eating plan yesterday so I politely declined and no one overtly judged me. It seemed like maybe some felt sorry for me because I didn't know what I was missing and that I was foolishly declining an amazing opportunity, as if I was rejecting some rare and exotic food that I would never have the chance to experience again.
I have several more meetings scheduled with this group in the future, so I think that I will just put a donut on a plate, cover it with a napkin, and leave it on the table during the meeting. I think that will make certain people feel better.
Or... perhaps the disdain you've expressed many times on these boards for people who struggle with their weight and choose to still enjoy food is apparent to those you work with as well. Perhaps they are hoping that you will enjoy a donut with them rather than judging them from across the conference room? Maybe they are hoping to see that rather than always eating the perfect diet focused only on the macro combination ideal for your fitness goals, that you can just let loose and enjoy a pumpkin cider donut once in a while. Maybe they do feel sorry for you, as you've suggested, but I don't know that it's specifically about missing out on a donut one time.
I still don't think there is such a thing as "cake culture" as Macy described and insisted their was and I certainly don't think what you've described qualifies as it either. It looks like general politeness and a desire that others enjoy themselves, but I realize these concepts are foreign to many people and as such, may be twisted into an opportunity once again to fat shame people who enjoy food.
Or perhaps the poster you're talking about eats a diet that is 80-90% nutrient dense food and 10-20% whatever. This person doesn't really like doughnuts. He knows he is going to be getting together with friends later in the day. He would much rather use his discretionary calories on a new craft beer or 2 he's been wanting to try with some dear friends rather than the doughnut he knows he's not a fan of with some random people who happen to work in the same office.8 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.
I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.
IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.
Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.
This is all correct.
My family's cuisine is Eastern-European. "Lukshen" (i.e. egg noodles) are a thing in soup and casseroles. I wouldn't really class them as Asian nor Italian.
Yeah, I actually agree that central European noodles (and Eastern too) are a thing, they are the first I had, and I would agree that noodles is the generic and includes pasta. Clarified in a post on noodles specifically after the one you quoted. (Noodle casserole was a thing in '70s midwestern and western US cuisine too, but one I opted out of strenuously and am glad is less common too, although I found the cream of mushroom soup or canned tuna or ruining perfectly good leftover turkey the real crimes thereof.)
I do agree with what I saw as the key points of VintageFeline's post (not all that seriously) re stew and chili with noodles.1 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.
I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.
IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.
Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.
This is all correct.
My family's cuisine is Eastern-European. "Lukshen" (i.e. egg noodles) are a thing in soup and casseroles. I wouldn't really class them as Asian nor Italian.
Yeah, I actually agree that central European noodles (and Eastern too) are a thing, they are the first I had, and I would agree that noodles is the generic and includes pasta. Clarified in a post on noodles specifically after the one you quoted. (Noodle casserole was a thing in '70s midwestern and western US cuisine too, but one I opted out of strenuously and am glad is less common too, although I found the cream of mushroom soup or canned tuna or ruining perfectly good leftover turkey the real crimes thereof.)
I do agree with what I saw as the key points of VintageFeline's post (not all that seriously) re stew and chili with noodles.
I'll give you the inclusion of Eatern European, I was making sweeping statements, as you do.
The thing about noodles as a catch all is it's conversationally clunky. "What's for dinner?", "Noodles", What type of noodles?", "Pasta". We could have got there without the middle two sentences; "Dinner?", "Pasta". One and done.1 -
mirtrevelyan wrote: »My unpopular opinion is that jogging is awful, running is even worse, but sprinting is fun. Running is exhausting and not actually that fast and there's better methods of cardio to lose weight. At least with sprinting you're going really fast and being slightly exhausted at the end is kind of the point. Try to look up a sprinting program, though, and nothing.
All those girls who tell me I can't lose weight without tons of running... ugh.
Running isn't for weight loss
Jogging is running
Sprinting injures me
I run for health, both mental and physical.7 -
mirtrevelyan wrote: »My unpopular opinion is that jogging is awful, running is even worse, but sprinting is fun. Running is exhausting and not actually that fast and there's better methods of cardio to lose weight. At least with sprinting you're going really fast and being slightly exhausted at the end is kind of the point. Try to look up a sprinting program, though, and nothing.
All those girls who tell me I can't lose weight without tons of running... ugh.
Running being exhausting seems like an extremely subjective thing. I mean, yeah, it burns energy (like lots of activities), but if you're properly conditioned, you should be able to run for quite a while. And I can't really understand why being exhausted at the end of sprinting is acceptable because it's the point (why is it the point of sprinting only, why can't it also be part of some running workouts?).
I don't think many people choose running because they think it's the fastest form of transportation.
I don't run to lose weight. I run to run, I run because it's one of the funnest activities for me. I get it's not for everyone, but these objections seem really odd.7 -
VintageFeline wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.
I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.
IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.
Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.
This is all correct.
My family's cuisine is Eastern-European. "Lukshen" (i.e. egg noodles) are a thing in soup and casseroles. I wouldn't really class them as Asian nor Italian.
Yeah, I actually agree that central European noodles (and Eastern too) are a thing, they are the first I had, and I would agree that noodles is the generic and includes pasta. Clarified in a post on noodles specifically after the one you quoted. (Noodle casserole was a thing in '70s midwestern and western US cuisine too, but one I opted out of strenuously and am glad is less common too, although I found the cream of mushroom soup or canned tuna or ruining perfectly good leftover turkey the real crimes thereof.)
I do agree with what I saw as the key points of VintageFeline's post (not all that seriously) re stew and chili with noodles.
I'll give you the inclusion of Eatern European, I was making sweeping statements, as you do.
The thing about noodles as a catch all is it's conversationally clunky. "What's for dinner?", "Noodles", What type of noodles?", "Pasta". We could have got there without the middle two sentences; "Dinner?", "Pasta". One and done.
It's funny, I keep thinking of other noodle dishes I had as a kid now that this topic has percolated some. A favorite of mine that my mother used to make was Swedish meatballs with noodles.
(This is no longer intended to be anything beyond sharing memories.)1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »mirtrevelyan wrote: »My unpopular opinion is that jogging is awful, running is even worse, but sprinting is fun. Running is exhausting and not actually that fast and there's better methods of cardio to lose weight. At least with sprinting you're going really fast and being slightly exhausted at the end is kind of the point. Try to look up a sprinting program, though, and nothing.
All those girls who tell me I can't lose weight without tons of running... ugh.
Running being exhausting seems like an extremely subjective thing. I mean, yeah, it burns energy (like lots of activities), but if you're properly conditioned, you should be able to run for quite a while. And I can't really understand why being exhausted at the end of sprinting is acceptable because it's the point (why is it the point of sprinting only, why can't it also be part of some running workouts?).
I don't think many people choose running because they think it's the fastest form of transportation.
I don't run to lose weight. I run to run, I run because it's one of the funnest activities for me. I get it's not for everyone, but these objections seem really odd.
Yeah, I run because I find it enjoyable and a great stress release. And occasionally because I can run home from my office in not that much more time than public transportation takes, so it's a great way to multitask two things I want to do (go home, work out).2 -
trinateegardens wrote: »amusedmonkey wrote: »It's unpopular to say that you exercise for calories, many often feel the goal would be superior if it's done for fitness. I exercise for calories and I don't mind not being superior. Fitness and enjoyment are just pleasant side effects.
Many would discourage eating when not hungry. I don't find anything wrong with that. If my calories are accounted for, you bet your boots I'm going to eat hedonically and enjoy every single bite without the least bit of guilt, and I don't consider it to be an unhealthy relationship with food. I think it's perfectly normal to eat for the sole purpose of enjoying food as long as it's not detrimental to the weight loss process as a whole.
Many people would consider going very low on calories after a high calorie day to be detrimental and something that could fuel a binge and restrict mentality. I'm not afraid of these tactics because I've never had an eating disorder and it's all calculated, planned, and relatively anxiety-free. I do it as a "naturally thin people mimicking" strategy not as a punishment. The way you mentally approach such a practice makes all the difference.
If a high protein diet is not sustainable I feel it's perfectly okay to eat as much protein as is reasonably manageable. I feel for some people "high protein" is the new "low carb" (which was the new "low fat"), that is, a rigid panic inducing requirement for weight loss with no middle ground. A person's goals don't need to be identical to everyone else's, so if slightly higher muscle loss (the difference is not even that large) is an acceptable tradeoff for someone, then so be it.
I don't believe that crash dieting is always bad. I'm very careful when I voice this opinion and I don't voice it often because it may be mistaken for promoting crash dieting for everyone, but there are cases where I believe it could be okay.
I don't think people "need" to lift any more than they "need" to run. It's perfectly okay to not enjoy lifting and you're not inferior if you don't.
Yes, I like using the treadmill. Sue me.
Thsnk you for the comment on lifting. Lots of lifters look down on those who dont lift. I do what i enjoy, lots of different things
You do realize that resistance exercise is recommended by the CDC for sustained good health? It's not just the domain of some bros who want to flex in too tight t-shirts.
https://www.cdc.gov/physicalactivity/basics/adults/index.htm0 -
VintageFeline wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.
I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.
IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.
Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.
This is all correct.
My family's cuisine is Eastern-European. "Lukshen" (i.e. egg noodles) are a thing in soup and casseroles. I wouldn't really class them as Asian nor Italian.
Yeah, I actually agree that central European noodles (and Eastern too) are a thing, they are the first I had, and I would agree that noodles is the generic and includes pasta. Clarified in a post on noodles specifically after the one you quoted. (Noodle casserole was a thing in '70s midwestern and western US cuisine too, but one I opted out of strenuously and am glad is less common too, although I found the cream of mushroom soup or canned tuna or ruining perfectly good leftover turkey the real crimes thereof.)
I do agree with what I saw as the key points of VintageFeline's post (not all that seriously) re stew and chili with noodles.
I'll give you the inclusion of Eatern European, I was making sweeping statements, as you do.
The thing about noodles as a catch all is it's conversationally clunky. "What's for dinner?", "Noodles", What type of noodles?", "Pasta". We could have got there without the middle two sentences; "Dinner?", "Pasta". One and done.
Not done. "What type of pasta?" "Penne". And even "What type of penne?" "Quinoa".
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VintageFeline wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.
I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.
IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.
Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.
This is all correct.
My family's cuisine is Eastern-European. "Lukshen" (i.e. egg noodles) are a thing in soup and casseroles. I wouldn't really class them as Asian nor Italian.
Yeah, I actually agree that central European noodles (and Eastern too) are a thing, they are the first I had, and I would agree that noodles is the generic and includes pasta. Clarified in a post on noodles specifically after the one you quoted. (Noodle casserole was a thing in '70s midwestern and western US cuisine too, but one I opted out of strenuously and am glad is less common too, although I found the cream of mushroom soup or canned tuna or ruining perfectly good leftover turkey the real crimes thereof.)
I do agree with what I saw as the key points of VintageFeline's post (not all that seriously) re stew and chili with noodles.
I'll give you the inclusion of Eatern European, I was making sweeping statements, as you do.
The thing about noodles as a catch all is it's conversationally clunky. "What's for dinner?", "Noodles", What type of noodles?", "Pasta". We could have got there without the middle two sentences; "Dinner?", "Pasta". One and done.
The conversation tends to go more like "What's for dinner" "Tuna noodle casserole". End of conversation. The type of noodle would only come up when one is asking for the recipe. "What noodles do you use in your pasta salad?" "Tri-color shells"0 -
VintageFeline wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »Texas Chili competitions, the only ones that matter, will disqualify you for putting beans in a stew and calling it chili.
I really don't care what the yankees up in Ohio do with their stews.
IT'S NOT STEW! Ground beef does not a stew make.We have a restaurant locally called "Real Chili" and you can get your chili either over noodles (macaroni, not spaghetti), potatoes, or neither. Greasy spoon and a great place to stop after bar time.
Again, noodles are not pasta, noodles are Asian, pasta is Italian and chili shouldn't be served with either. I'll let the potatoes pass.
This is all correct.
My family's cuisine is Eastern-European. "Lukshen" (i.e. egg noodles) are a thing in soup and casseroles. I wouldn't really class them as Asian nor Italian.
Yeah, I actually agree that central European noodles (and Eastern too) are a thing, they are the first I had, and I would agree that noodles is the generic and includes pasta. Clarified in a post on noodles specifically after the one you quoted. (Noodle casserole was a thing in '70s midwestern and western US cuisine too, but one I opted out of strenuously and am glad is less common too, although I found the cream of mushroom soup or canned tuna or ruining perfectly good leftover turkey the real crimes thereof.)
I do agree with what I saw as the key points of VintageFeline's post (not all that seriously) re stew and chili with noodles.
I'll give you the inclusion of Eatern European, I was making sweeping statements, as you do.
The thing about noodles as a catch all is it's conversationally clunky. "What's for dinner?", "Noodles", What type of noodles?", "Pasta". We could have got there without the middle two sentences; "Dinner?", "Pasta". One and done.
The conversation tends to go more like "What's for dinner" "Tuna noodle casserole". End of conversation. The type of noodle would only come up when one is asking for the recipe. "What noodles do you use in your pasta salad?" "Tri-color shells"
Tuna noodle casserole. My head just exploded. Not only do you have the wrong use of noodle but also the wrong use of casserole.
I WANT MY LANGUAGE BACK*
*Says the Scot who has never spoken a word of Gaelic in her life and has in fact also appropriated English.8 -
mirtrevelyan wrote: »My unpopular opinion is that jogging is awful, running is even worse, but sprinting is fun. Running is exhausting and not actually that fast and there's better methods of cardio to lose weight. At least with sprinting you're going really fast and being slightly exhausted at the end is kind of the point. Try to look up a sprinting program, though, and nothing.
All those girls who tell me I can't lose weight without tons of running... ugh.
Yeah, that's going to be an unpopular opinion with runners.
Running and jogging are the same thing, btw.
The point of running isn't necessarily to be fast, some of us are in it for endurance. Furthermore, the point of any exercise isn't weight loss, it's conditioning, fitness, and for some of us stress relief and mental health.
I run because I like it, you obviously sprint because you like it, but I think you have a skewed view of what you're getting out an exercise program if you see it only as a means of achieving weight loss.4
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