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What are your unpopular opinions about health / fitness?

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  • Posts: 5,132 Member

    You see we really agree that the fast food industry doesn't care about your health, we just disagree about their methods towards profit...

    Your perspective is just too naive for me to buy in to.... They are not simply trying to offer what people want, they are much smarter than that.

    There is just more to super sized portions than offering people what they want... Your fooling yourself if you believe they are not trying to get people to buy more than they really want...

    Umm...bigger portions = less profit...
  • Posts: 5,283 Member
    Now I'm wondering if any roasted brussels sprouts contain gluten and, if so... why?
  • Posts: 1,219 Member
    Now I'm wondering if any roasted brussels sprouts contain gluten and, if so... why?

    Well, I'm drinking a can of Parrot brand Coconut water right now that proudly proclaims "Gluten Free!!!" and wondered the same kind of thing... how many other brands of Coconut water actually do have gluten. ;)
  • Posts: 5,727 Member

    The problem here is people with the mindset you seem to have shown tend to rely on "they dont want dead customers" as a way of justifying "safety" and support of new chemical additives, etc. added by a company, when in fact they don't really care as long as they don't have to deal with a negative result that costs them money.

    They are not evil, they are neutral, they want more money first and foremost. Which means others should analyze the results and promotion of their products, not because they are evil or good, but because they will only do what they determine 1) best for profit and 2) cheapest. Mom and pops are quite different, and can actually be of any kind of extreme depending on all kinds of factors, including how aware they even are of their goals, some actually do have businesses with profit not the primary reason, and they don't have to function in the interest of profit...this can be bad too but its another discussion and they shouldn't really be lumped together.

    Many of the problems with certain processed products are not going to be very obvious. Many health effects wont show up for a long time if ever, and most you can eat some of the product and not ever see any effects. Being "OMG corporations are evil" is just the other side of "its been tested by the corp, its fine". Its better for people's health to have a healthy suspicion and analyze things from both sides. In fact many of the health effects that are currently being noted are much harder to analyze than they used to be, and much harder for random layperson to even extract information from a study, especially with unhelpful sensational headlines bringing it to your attention.

    I find over and over the general idea here that processed food is healthy and no different than any other food, and ridiculing anyone who says otherwise by painting them as extremes and dismissing them. Most of this is done with little to no info, acting as an "expert", it feels kind of like the "in" thing here. Probably part of this is in reaction to all kinds of promoted diets and "health foods" of the opposite extreme. But to those people who do pay attention to the studies, in general we know processed foods have shown to be inferior in most all cases studied, and is bad information to say they aren't any different. That processed food isn't going to kill you is probably true, we won't know that off a study you like to quote that finds "no difference" though. And we won't even know for certain if it does take a year or two off someone's life, or maybe just a year or two off of mobile life worth living, even if we followed that individual all their life, because its large averages in populations over time that is needed to really show an effect. We all know extremes and exceptions of anything and can post some examples that will kill you, "natural" or no. We all can find examples of processing which are good. These are not the issue. The idea is moderation and analysis and to stay away from extremes, and determine what is likely, and stay away from things with possible costs, IF its not going to cause "too much" difficulty in your particular case to do.

    Let's take a short review of sucralose for example, which is highly defended here. Studies in total do not see strong effects from taking it without large dosages. However, even in studies which determine it is "safe", we do see highly probable health effects. Subjects killed in these studies show inflamed filter organs, and shrunken immune organs off normal, but do not die, before they are killed anyways. Is it possible they may die earlier, or have less function later, or be more prone to infection, or be more prone to disease of the very important filter organs, or show increased disease of the affected organs combined with some other factor, or be more prone to hypertrophy and tumor in inflamed areas, or have eventual scarring of inflamed organs, or show less reaction over all to immune challenges...? These and many questions are logical results of such findings, but have not and will not be studied because there is no money in it. So there are many intelligent objections to just taking a substance of unresolved concerns, without it being "its going to kill you!". The actual sum total of these studies does not show "its safe", it shows there probably is a low level negative health consequence to this substance, we arent sure, but inflammation of filter organs is never a good thing, and shrinkage of the thymus can reduce immune function. The only question is whether a low dose can have such an effect...which we also cant answer...

    Human trials? Please provide a reference to a single human trial of sucralose where the participants were killed en masse.
  • Posts: 1,758 Member
    edited July 2017
    Bry_Lander wrote: »

    When the US obesity rate reaches 90%, "Mmm Fries" will officially replace "E Pluribus Unum" on all of our currency...

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    ETA: we can air fry them if you want :*
  • Posts: 30,886 Member
    Now I'm wondering if any roasted brussels sprouts contain gluten and, if so... why?

    Some people might add bread crumbs.
  • Posts: 6,644 Member
    The McD's on the Hawaiian offers spam for breakfast along with eggs and rice. They mostly definitely have their consumers in mind. And it was good!

    The ones down South serve Grits for breakfast... So yummy.
  • Posts: 2,081 Member

    The ones down South serve Grits for breakfast... So yummy.

    Where is this? I'm in NC, so maybe not south enough?
  • Posts: 6,644 Member
    Dnarules wrote: »

    Where is this? I'm in NC, so maybe not south enough?

    When I lived in GA.
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