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  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    Take this for what it's worth. It's not intended to come off as anything other than an opinion on the matter. Based solely on the pictures you have in your profile, I can see what she's talking about. You seem to look drawn, emaciated, weak & frail. Versus the last picture next to the telescope. In that picture you're obviously a bit over weight, but don't appear drawn and weak or frail.

    In the end it only matter what you think and how you feel about yourself.


    Good luck.
  • RoadsterGirlie
    RoadsterGirlie Posts: 1,195 Member
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    I just posted this to vent. I did not post it as an invitation for others to nitpick my body.

    There are quite a few people on here who have had tremendous success but still have a ways to go. I would never think of telling them "Oh you still have a bit of pudge on your thighs/belly - even if you're not worried about it, I am."
  • RoadsterGirlie
    RoadsterGirlie Posts: 1,195 Member
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    Checked your profitle and you are underweight for 5'9". Maybe she has a point.

    ^this, a bit. I know that you are insulted by the mere suggestion that you might be under-weight, but, oh well. You go so far as to brag about "thigh gap" in your profile. Red flag there. Also, that WW has been so effective at teaching you about healthy nutrition. I would argue that, big time. WW has changed a bit in the last few years, but their recommendations killed my health when I was young and didn't know any better. They make big money on helping people lose and gain, lose and gain, lose and gain. I have 3 generations of family members harmed by WW, so I am allowed to have an opinion about them.

    Anyway, you are on your own journey and a BIG congratulations for your success. You should be proud and nothing anyone says should change how your feel about yourself. It would be useful to differentiate between honest advice/concern (which isn't always what you want to hear) and people being jealous/unsupportive. The fact that she had to show your picture around and get other advice about how you looked better heavier tells me that she is jealous or threatened by you. I'd keep a polite professional relationship with her, but don't trust her with personal stuff.

    Well WW works well for some and others not so much. I think it's all about what you put into it. My husband is also on WW, and is down 45 lbs with 10 more to go. I find it easy and sustainable. I eat cleaner, avoid processed stuff and am sure to get in my nutrients. The Goodhealth Guidelines they have highlighted is essentially the same as getting in your macros.

    I don't understand why thigh gap is such a dirty word. Some woman get it at a higher weight, while others will never get it even at a low weight. Sure it's not an indication of poor or good health, but I simply like it because my thighs no longer chaffe and it's way more comfortable when wearing a skirt or shorts.

    It's not different than achieving a six pack. A six pack is not an indicator of health either, and can only be achieved depending on your body type. However, it doesn't seem to induce the anorexia scare that the thigh gap does.
  • BattleTaxi
    BattleTaxi Posts: 752 Member
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    Thanks everybody for the reassurance. You all are the best. She doesn't strike me as the jealous or catty type at all, which is why it hurt my feelings as much as it did, and caught me by surprise.

    Sounds more like she is an incognito manipulator - don't listen to her! People like that are just jealous because they aren't satisfied with THEMSELVES! Next time someone gets nosy just fib and say you don't carry old photos around! :)

    -BT
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    I just posted this to vent. I did not post it as an invitation for others to nitpick my body.

    There are quite a few people on here who have had tremendous success but still have a ways to go. I would never think of telling them "Oh you still have a bit of pudge on your thighs/belly - even if you're not worried about it, I am."

    Did you honestly post a topic in a public forum and not expect a response? Clearly you were unprepared for people to agree with the woman in your story and were just looking for affirmation that clearly she was wrong. This can be seen by how you graciously accepted comments to that affect and are getting upset over comments that are contrary to that.

    No on was nitpicking your body, myself and a couple others merely stated that we can see where they were coming from. If this is such a sensitive topic for you, perhaps a public forum topic isn't the best location for it.

    ETA: Posting a topic on body composition/weight in a health and fitness forum is an invitation to discuss the subject.
  • ernielaurie
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    Maybe she doesn't like having attractive competition in the office? :P

    YUP This!
  • NonnyMary
    NonnyMary Posts: 982 Member
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    I relocated out of state for a job about a year and a half ago. Nobody in this office has ever known me to be overweight, although I have shared with a few people my weight loss journey.

    One woman who I normally get a long great with asked to see a picture of the overweight me. I really don't like showing those to people, and told her so, but pulled one out anyways off my phone.

    She said, "Wow you look beautiful there. You actually look better with a little weight on you than you do now."

    Ouch.

    Hello - I was over 200 lbs in that picture. I did not feel beautiful, was not healthy, and was eating like crap. I personally don't think ANYBODY looks good with excess fat on them, and I am not an exception.

    She then started asking others to see if they shared the same opinion - nobody would touch that one with a 10 foot pole, especially the men.


    She herself is a very fit person, eats right and exercises, so I know this didn't stem from jealosy - I think she was just being honest. Maybe she was trying to make me feel better about showing her that picture, but in my head all it did was confuse the hell out of me.

    I know other people's opinions shouldn't matter, but I would be lying if it didn't hurt my feelings. The message I got from that was that even though I'm now healthy, have more energy and can perform physical feats that I couldn't before, I look better when I'm pudgy, squishy, can't do a push up to save my life because I'm too heavy, and can't fit into normal sized clothes.

    Thanks for listening to me vent.

    Well, thats not really appropriate for the office, and for her to survey the rest of the office, that is not appropriate, and actually she could get in trouble if you have rules about workplace harassment. That said, (I know i sound like a curmudgeon haha) but, sounds like she made an offhand comment (what she was thinking without a filter). So since it made you feel bad, I would say to her "I'd prefer not to discuss that", or "no thanks I prefer not to show pictures of my personal life" or something like that.. I mean dont even go there next time she comes up with any more questions that she doens't mean harm but she was not thinking appropriately.
  • dmpizza
    dmpizza Posts: 3,321 Member
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    If that profile pic is accurate, you look fantastic. Good for you.

    Obviously it wasn't just a flub she made since she pressed the issue with others.

    Just ignore her.
  • IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym
    IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym Posts: 5,573 Member
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    Thanks everybody for the reassurance. You all are the best. She doesn't strike me as the jealous or catty type at all, which is why it hurt my feelings as much as it did, and caught me by surprise.

    did you express your feelings to her?
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    Being fit doesn't mean a person isn't insecure.
  • JJordon
    JJordon Posts: 857 Member
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    Haters gonna hate.
  • dsjohndrow
    dsjohndrow Posts: 1,820 Member
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    You are healthier now. You are more fit now. You like you better now. Who cares what anyone else thinks!
  • Lightbulb1088
    Lightbulb1088 Posts: 189 Member
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    I agree with many of the comments. but How you feel about you is most important. I can understand you being upset also because it takes a lot of work to for some of us to get and stay fit. Enjoy the you that you have now. Put the bad comments a side.
    Have a great day!
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    I just posted this to vent. I did not post it as an invitation for others to nitpick my body.

    There are quite a few people on here who have had tremendous success but still have a ways to go. I would never think of telling them "Oh you still have a bit of pudge on your thighs/belly - even if you're not worried about it, I am."

    Did you honestly post a topic in a public forum and not expect a response? Clearly you were unprepared for people to agree with the woman in your story and were just looking for affirmation that clearly she was wrong. This can be seen by how you graciously accepted comments to that affect and are getting upset over comments that are contrary to that.

    No on was nitpicking your body, myself and a couple others merely stated that we can see where they were coming from. If this is such a sensitive topic for you, perhaps a public forum topic isn't the best location for it.

    ETA: Posting a topic on body composition/weight in a health and fitness forum is an invitation to discuss the subject.

    ^This

    And this might have gone better as a blog post if all you really wanted to do was vent.
  • JustAnotherGirlSuzanne
    JustAnotherGirlSuzanne Posts: 932 Member
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    Maybe she doesn't like having attractive competition in the office? :P

    ^^^this
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    Here is an example of something that would never happen on MFP, or any other fitness forum:

    Poster is in weight loss mode, and she is feeling good about herself. She's about half way to her goal with 60 lbs lost, and 40 to 50 lbs left to lose. She can see the difference and she is feeling great - on cloud 9.

    Then her mother in law /co-worker/husband makes a comment that she still looks fat, and asks when she plans on making her goal.

    This takes the wind of the posters sails, and posts on MFP to vent her frustration.

    People go into her profile and look a her pictures. They make the following statements:

    "Well, you definetely do have some pudge you need to work on."

    "Yeah it definitely looks like you are still eating too much."

    "Wow, look at your gut - it's poking out."

    The poster then advises she never asked for a critique about her body, and doesn't care for the nitpicking.

    She then gets told that this is a fitness forum, so she never should have posted the rant on a public forum in the place.

    Sound familiar?

    Not at all actually. You're just upset that people agreed with the woman in your story and presented their opinion on why they agreed, that perhaps you're underweight and why they felt as such. Your news feed would probably have been a better venue for this topic. Clearly you're having a very emotional response to it.

    No one said you shouldn't have posted in the forum. What was suggested was you shouldn't have posted in the forum if you didn't want responses. You state that you don't want critique about your body, but you expressed gratitude about the critiques you wanted to hear.

    There are many, many readers of the forums that do not reply or post at all. It is not out of place to share ones opinion on the matter that is posted. That was/is my opinion on the matter, which I see as a result of under eating and excessive cardio only exercise. I can state this with a clear conscious because I went too far myself and was very unhappy with the results. I then spent the next year putting back on 20 pounds through eating, lifting, & reduced cardio. I still have my own issues I'm working on, I still do hard cardio 3 times a week, instead of 7, but I deffinately eat enough for it now. I just can't give it up entirely because it was how I lost my weight.

    If one reader sees this and decides "Hey, maybe I should be careful and not go too far." or "Hey, maybe I should consider some sort of resistance training so I dont appear so thin". Then it's all worth it, but since so many readers don't post the world may never know.
  • RoadsterGirlie
    RoadsterGirlie Posts: 1,195 Member
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    I find it hilarious that you see me as result off too much cardio and undereating.

    I haven't done pure cardio in about 3 years. I lift heavy 3x a week, incorporating free weights and body weight training.

    I eat about 2200 calories a day.

    Go ahead and keep defending your choice to skinny/body shame somebody. Better yet, I would love to see you do it to somebody in real life. Let me know how that black eye works for you.
  • bdeezy3396
    bdeezy3396 Posts: 89 Member
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    some people just don't have any tact !!!!
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    I find it hilarious that you see me as result off too much cardio and undereating.

    I haven't done pure cardio in about 3 years. I lift heavy 3x a week, incorporating free weights and body weight training.

    I eat about 2200 calories a day.

    Go ahead and keep defending your choice to skinny/body shame somebody. Better yet, I would love to see you do it to somebody in real life. Let me know how that black eye works for you.

    You are obviously feeling defensive and have a very obtuse stabce on the subject. There was no body shaming, merely agreement with the woman in your story. This doesn't allow for a constructive conversation. I'm going to withdraw now with one last thought on the matter. A difference in opinion, view point, or statements you do not want to hear does not constitute an attack or shaming. Best of luck.
  • RoadsterGirlie
    RoadsterGirlie Posts: 1,195 Member
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    some people just don't have any tact !!!!

    In real life, and in this forum. Seriously, who the hell thinks they have the god given right to comment on somebody else's body?

    Rude.
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