Minor rant

Mcgrawhaha

i think you were / are being overly sensitive. if this lady is generally kind to you, and not a punk, then obviously her words may have come out wrong, or you may have misinterpreted what she meant. i notice the same thing alot of times... huge weight loss, body looks better, face looks worse. its not that big of a deal to get yourself all worked up about. if she was a lady that was a witch to begin with, sure, maybe she was being rude, but you say this is a friendly nice lady... i think you just need to get over it. who cares what other people think of you.

sunshine1082

I dunno, we can all speculate about what she "really meant" but no one's a mind reader and the only way to know would be to ask her. If she's generally decent and kind to you, you might assume she had positive intent and just tell her honestly that what she said confused you and hurt your feelings a bit. Would give her a chance to clarify what she intended or at least to know how it affected you. Relationships are tough. Communication is tough. Assumptions and attempts to mind read are rarely terribly helpful. Congrats on your weight loss also.

Well said, and I agree completely.

RoadsterGirlie

I've seen forum posts before where people have discussed your weight. (This is coming from a 5'8 122 pound girl, so know that my opinion doesn't stem from jealousy or judgement.) It almost seems to me you're still a little insecure about your weight (but in the opposite way now) because you let people know what your BMI is and have picture up like the ribs one, etc. You should be PROUD of your progress, but really focused on balance now. Have you talked to your doctor about whether it's a healthy or low weight for you? You don't have a teenager metabolism either, so I will say I have NO IDEA if this is the case or not, but perhaps she thinks you're over exercising? That's a disorder as well, but not to do with food.
Either way it was rude of her to comment on your picture like that! it's only acceptable to say "good job" and make no opinions when people talk about weight loss, especially if you know them on a professional basis.

Hardly. I am very proud of my accomplishments.

As stated numerous times in this post, my doctor says I'm healthy as can be, and am in tip top shape.

As to the "ribs" photo (it has a name now?) I am proud of the definition in my abs. Plenty of people have photos like that in their profile.

I work out for an hour 3 to 4x a week. Hardly what I would call excessive, but I do use the time well, and make what I do count.

As to what a "teenager metabolism" is, I have no idea what that means. I don't subscribe to the theory that you automatically put weight on as you get older. I eat 2200 calories a day, as previously stated quite a few times before, so my metabolism is quite healthy.

RoadsterGirlie

Repost (MFP doesn't allow me to delete)

goldfinger88

Congratulations on the terrific weight loss. I've seen people who I honestly thought looked better when they were heavy. I'm not sure why that is. I know they're were not as healthy nor as fit. I just liked their looks better. But what other people see is not what's important. And the extra weight was dangerous to you.

Overlook what she said. She was coming from an honest place. Or I'm hoping she was. She meant no harm in all likelihood. In the future, you might want to avoid showing the "before" photos.

PunkinSpice79

Maybe she doesn't like having attractive competition in the office? :P

^ ^ This.

CoderGal

I am confused. You seem to be getting defensive towards people by denying things you have done (like exercising more and doing cardio). How long have you been doing what you are doing? Because I'm sure I've heard you say things that are not what you are saying now. So the people making those comments may be talking about what they have seen you do...You say you lift heavy 3x a week without cardio?...which usually means heavy for 5-8reps. but in other posts you don't say that, you say you do jillian michaels (I guess that counts as not straight cardio?)...and then you say you exercise 5x a week in other places...and mention cardio allot...

Here are the ones I own that are in rotation 4 to 5x a week

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1000313-jillian-michaels-and-the-popularity-of-the-30-day-shred

I haven't done pure cardio in about 3 years. I lift heavy 3x a week, incorporating free weights and body weight training.

Banish Fat Boost Metabolism (More cardio based with lots of plyometrics, but it does have some strength moves thrown in)

I LIFT HEAVY. I do cardio. I have a six pack. I eat at maintenance, which is roughly 2200 to 2300 calories a day. Wtf would I eat at a surplus? It's called maintenance for a reason.

I exercise 5x a week for an hour with cardio and weight training, and my TDEE is around 2300. I'm 5'9" and 126ish.

I work out for an hour 3 to 4x a week. Hardly what I would call excessive,

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/821191-is-tdee-my-maintenance-calories

I do Jillian MIchaels DVDs 5 days a week for an hour by combining the workouts. For example, on my 30DS day, I will combine workout 2 and 1 or workout 3 and 1.

I still exercise 4 to 5x a week just because it feels good.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/809359-society-s-view-on-food?page=4

I have had AMAZING results with Jillian MIchael's workouts. I have been doing them religiously for an hour 4-5x a week

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/808821-weight-loss-y-u-no-easy-to-understand

5'9"
125 lbs
2200 a day - some days less while some days more.
Have been maintaining for about 18 months.

Right now I'm working out 5 days a week for an hour

I too think Week 2 is the hardest. The cardio portion in the first circuit (mountain climbers followed by the squat jacks) kill me.

I find it hilarious that you see me as result off too much cardio and undereating.

It's fun being skinny, isn't it?

Edit to add: I'm also tall and at the low end of the bmi scale with a thigh gap and do not think everyone is out to get me to eat mcdonalds.

RoadsterGirlie

I'm done arguing about my own body.

This is so silly it's ridiculous.

Back to your off topic response, I don't consider Jillian Michaels to be pure cardio. It's closest to HIIT training with a combination of cardio and strength.

I consider pure cardio to be on a treadmill or elliptical for a half hour.
That's boring, and I won't go back to that.


Maybe I'm wrong, but the vibe I'm getting is that it would make a few folks happier if I quit exercising completely and went back to getting McDonalds every day for lunch. It would obviously make them feel more comfortable with themselves.

To answer your otherquestion, I was doing 5x a week as of about six months ago, but recently cut it back to 4, and now I'm at 3.8x if you want to get really granular (which by your last post, you obviously do).

I was also perusing the success threads, and saw another girl who got down a BMI similar to mine get ripped to shreds. I guess that's par for the course here, so it's to be expected.

And yes, to answer your last question, it is fun being skinny.

Shred away.

jofjltncb6

And out...

prattiger65

I am confused. You seem to be getting defensive towards people by denying things you have done (like exercising more and doing cardio). How long have you been doing what you are doing? Because I'm sure I've heard you say things that are not what you are saying now. So the people making those comments may be talking about what they have seen you do...You say you lift heavy 3x a week without cardio?...which usually means heavy for 5-8reps. but in other posts you don't say that, you say you do jillian michaels (I guess that counts as not straight cardio?)...and then you say you exercise 5x a week in other places...and mention cardio allot...

Here are the ones I own that are in rotation 4 to 5x a week

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1000313-jillian-michaels-and-the-popularity-of-the-30-day-shred

I haven't done pure cardio in about 3 years. I lift heavy 3x a week, incorporating free weights and body weight training.

Banish Fat Boost Metabolism (More cardio based with lots of plyometrics, but it does have some strength moves thrown in)

I LIFT HEAVY. I do cardio. I have a six pack. I eat at maintenance, which is roughly 2200 to 2300 calories a day. Wtf would I eat at a surplus? It's called maintenance for a reason.

I exercise 5x a week for an hour with cardio and weight training, and my TDEE is around 2300. I'm 5'9" and 126ish.

I work out for an hour 3 to 4x a week. Hardly what I would call excessive,

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/821191-is-tdee-my-maintenance-calories

I do Jillian MIchaels DVDs 5 days a week for an hour by combining the workouts. For example, on my 30DS day, I will combine workout 2 and 1 or workout 3 and 1.

I still exercise 4 to 5x a week just because it feels good.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/809359-society-s-view-on-food?page=4

I have had AMAZING results with Jillian MIchael's workouts. I have been doing them religiously for an hour 4-5x a week

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/808821-weight-loss-y-u-no-easy-to-understand

5'9"
125 lbs
2200 a day - some days less while some days more.
Have been maintaining for about 18 months.

Right now I'm working out 5 days a week for an hour

I too think Week 2 is the hardest. The cardio portion in the first circuit (mountain climbers followed by the squat jacks) kill me.

I find it hilarious that you see me as result off too much cardio and undereating.

It's fun being skinny, isn't it?

Edit to add: I'm also tall and at the low end of the bmi scale and do not think everyone is out to get me to eat mcdonalds.

Well well......

Achrya

I'm done arguing about my own body.

This is so silly it's ridiculous.

Back to your off topic response, I don't consider Jillian Michaels to be pure cardio. It's closest to HIIT training with a combination of cardio and strength.

I consider pure cardio to be on a treadmill or elliptical for a half hour.
That's boring, and I won't go back to that.


Maybe I'm wrong, but the vibe I'm getting is that it would make a few folks happier if I quit exercising completely and went back to getting McDonalds every day for lunch. It would obviously make them feel more comfortable with themselves.

To answer your otherquestion, I was doing 5x a week as of about six months ago, but recently cut it back to 4, and now I'm at 3.8x if you want to get really granular (which by your last post, you obviously do).

I was also perusing the success threads, and saw another girl who got down a BMI similar to mine get ripped to shreds. I guess that's par for the course here, so it's to be expected.

And yes, to answer your last question, it is fun being skinny.

Shred away.

Yes. Everyone wants you to eat McDonald's. clearly that's what's going on.

RoadsterGirlie

Ate there today in fact. Had a SW grilled chicken salad.

hrtchoco

18.5 bmi is not anorexic, it's perfectly healthy. My bmi is around 18.5, and I for sure don't look too thin.

RoadsterGirlie

No, but it sure does make other people uncomfortable.

feedee33

I actually read this the other way....

I read it like this:

Girl: Can I see an old picture of you?

OP: I hate old pictures of me, I look awful.

Girl: Oh wow, you look beautiful, maybe even more beautiful than now.

OP: Ouch that hurt...

I guess what I'm saying is, maybe she saw something in you that you don't see, maybe she saw something that to her didn't justify you being so hard on the old you....that being said she probably worded it badly to make it sound like you are prettier than...you are very pretty now.

I would just say "Thank you, I appreciate the compliment. I love how fit and attractive I am now. But I do appreciate you saying that."

that's all...compliments that we give always have a bit of us in them....maybe she wonders or feels that she looked better with a few more pounds on her....who knows..

THIS.
Overweight or fit, anyone and everyone is beautiful. Be proud of the new version of you, but don't hate the old.

RoadsterGirlie

I actually read this the other way....

I read it like this:

Girl: Can I see an old picture of you?

OP: I hate old pictures of me, I look awful.

Girl: Oh wow, you look beautiful, maybe even more beautiful than now.

OP: Ouch that hurt...

I guess what I'm saying is, maybe she saw something in you that you don't see, maybe she saw something that to her didn't justify you being so hard on the old you....that being said she probably worded it badly to make it sound like you are prettier than...you are very pretty now.

I would just say "Thank you, I appreciate the compliment. I love how fit and attractive I am now. But I do appreciate you saying that."

that's all...compliments that we give always have a bit of us in them....maybe she wonders or feels that she looked better with a few more pounds on her....who knows..

THIS.
Overweight or fit, anyone and everyone is beautiful. Be proud of the new version of you, but don't hate the old.

Thanks for that. I was just thinking I need to log out of MFP for awhile to add some positivity back into my day. :flowerforyou:

nobleammonite

Man, the comments here, especially about the ribcage, make me sad. Everyone has different body types! Even when I was at my highest weight (150ish), I could see my ribcage if I stood up straight. It's just how I'm built. I have a narrow waist relative to my ribcage, and I don't carry a ton of weight in my torso, just my extremities lol. I remember looking in a mirror as a teenager and wishing my ribcage was smaller because it stuck out so much. (I wasn't thin as a teenager; I'm the smallest I've ever been right now.) I imagine my ribs will be fairly visible when I reach my goal (105ish - I'm 4'11"), but since there's still plenty of fat on me in other places, I'm not going to stop before I'm there.

OP, I think you look awesometastic. 18.5 BMI is great! I've seen your posts around and you sound like you have a good head on your shoulders. Rock on!

TheBraveryLover

I personally don't think ANYBODY looks good with excess fat on them, and I am not an exception.

No comment. :flowerforyou:

She herself is a very fit person, eats right and exercises, so I know this didn't stem from jealosy

:laugh: That's quite an assumption.

Anyway, yeah she was out of line. There's no way someone can tell someone that their most recent self is less attractive than their previous self, and it not come across as an insult. I'm surprised she was as self-important enough to try to rally people to agree with her.

Then again, from your 2 quotes above, you seem like two peas in a pod.

ETA: Just read the entire thread. Yeah, you have major issues and your current weight is not one of them. I wish you well on your maintenance.

Sapporo

CoderGal, that is quite freaky. Now I know why people set it so that their previous posts don't show up for everyone to see. Time passes, people change, and some people do consider JM workouts to be strength training. I think they go too fast for that and consider it cardio but whatever, people can lift heavier faster than me then.
OP, I['m sorry that people are picking on you so much. Your doctor says you are healthy so who cares what MFP thinks.

RoadsterGirlie

No kidding. Freaky isn't the word for it.

I've been on this board two years, and you are right Sapporo - I live and learn on what works for me. I have cut back on my workouts as of the past two months as I felt my body fat was dropping a bit lower than what I liked. I still want to maintain the muscle mass that I do have, so I continue with what I was previously doing; just not in the quantity of which I was doing them.

But I'm really glad Codergal keeps track of it.

I sleep better.

RingTailedFox

Oh, honey. I know how much it hurts to have people criticize your body. It doesn't matter if you're big, medium or little... it still hurts.

Stay strong and flip them the bird as you head to the gym!

Achrya

CoderGal, that is quite freaky. Now I know why people set it so that their previous posts don't show up for everyone to see. Time passes, people change, and some people do consider JM workouts to be strength training. I think they go too fast for that and consider it cardio but whatever, people can lift heavier faster than me then.
OP, I['m sorry that people are picking on you so much. Your doctor says you are healthy so who cares what MFP thinks.

It's so freaky that when you say things in one post people dare to remember those things and expect you to be accountable to that crap you say at a later date. Clearly each post is a self contained world and what you say in one should never be referencreferenced again. Shame on you Coder. Shame.

OP is mad someone dared to tell her what she really thought and that she's subject to the same body judgement she dishes out. Whaa whaa, tell us more about how no one looks good with excess fat.

mkzara

CoderGal, that is quite freaky. Now I know why people set it so that their previous posts don't show up for everyone to see. Time passes, people change, and some people do consider JM workouts to be strength training. I think they go too fast for that and consider it cardio but whatever, people can lift heavier faster than me then.
OP, I['m sorry that people are picking on you so much. Your doctor says you are healthy so who cares what MFP thinks.

It's so freaky that when you say things in one post people dare to remember those things and expect you to be accountable to that crap you say at a later date. Clearly each post is a self contained world and what you say in one should never be referencreferenced again. Shame on you Coder. Shame.

OP is mad someone dared to tell her what she really thought and that she's subject to the same body judgement she dishes out. Whaa whaa, tell us more about how no one looks good with excess fat.

The OP has not judged anyone's body.

She stated that she thought fat didn't look good on her or other people. She didn't go on people's responses and say wow your second chin looks awful or you need to work on that pudge fatty.

She actually shared an opinion. People then choose to make very specific, very personal and very negative comments about her. It's the Internet so I expect peope to act like jerks, but they are still responsible for being jerks.

MyaPapaya75

And this is why we have Blogs & Threads

MercenaryNoetic26

Whatta busybody. She had to make a big deal and ask the whole office and make you feel awkward. What I hate about cube farms.
Eta: OP there's nothing wrong with your post. If you feel good, you're good. Don't let people put you on blast at work.

Achrya

CoderGal, that is quite freaky. Now I know why people set it so that their previous posts don't show up for everyone to see. Time passes, people change, and some people do consider JM workouts to be strength training. I think they go too fast for that and consider it cardio but whatever, people can lift heavier faster than me then.
OP, I['m sorry that people are picking on you so much. Your doctor says you are healthy so who cares what MFP thinks.

It's so freaky that when you say things in one post people dare to remember those things and expect you to be accountable to that crap you say at a later date. Clearly each post is a self contained world and what you say in one should never be referencreferenced again. Shame on you Coder. Shame.

OP is mad someone dared to tell her what she really thought and that she's subject to the same body judgement she dishes out. Whaa whaa, tell us more about how no one looks good with excess fat.

The OP has not judged anyone's body.

She stated that she thought fat didn't look good on her or other people. She didn't go on people's responses and say wow your second chin looks awful or you need to work on that pudge fatty.

She actually shared an opinion. People then choose to make very specific, very personal and very negative comments about her. It's the Internet so I expect peope to act like jerks, but they are still responsible for being jerks.

So when the OP says something it's an opinion but other people's comments aren't opinions. ...does that make them facts?

OP said some stuff before, and in this post, and is being held accountable. But that's wrong! And everyone else is saying mean things and should be held responsible for that! Because that's right!




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princessrisariri

Some people do look better with a tiny bit of excess weight, but not 200lbs. No one looks better at 200lbs than they do your size!
She may have thought it would help you in some way? Like if she thought you are still trying so hard to be beautiful but letting you know you would be fine if you gave yourself a break?
Only way to know for sure is to ask her what she meant, its scary to do that conversation but will clear everything up and it was probably just a throwaway comment or a misunderstanding that none of us have figured out yet?

Iron_Feline

CoderGal, that is quite freaky. Now I know why people set it so that their previous posts don't show up for everyone to see. Time passes, people change, and some people do consider JM workouts to be strength training. I think they go too fast for that and consider it cardio but whatever, people can lift heavier faster than me then.
OP, I['m sorry that people are picking on you so much. Your doctor says you are healthy so who cares what MFP thinks.

It's so freaky that when you say things in one post people dare to remember those things and expect you to be accountable to that crap you say at a later date. Clearly each post is a self contained world and what you say in one should never be referencreferenced again. Shame on you Coder. Shame.

OP is mad someone dared to tell her what she really thought and that she's subject to the same body judgement she dishes out. Whaa whaa, tell us more about how no one looks good with excess fat.

The OP has not judged anyone's body.

She stated that she thought fat didn't look good on her or other people. She didn't go on people's responses and say wow your second chin looks awful or you need to work on that pudge fatty.

She actually shared an opinion. People then choose to make very specific, very personal and very negative comments about her. It's the Internet so I expect peope to act like jerks, but they are still responsible for being jerks.

So the op is not the person that stated on another thread that anyone at 5'6 who was over 130lbs was fat?

Because she was.

Karma does like to bite us in the *kitten*.

BTW op - JM is NOT heavy lifting, please stop saying you lift heavy, you don't. :noway:

rml_16

The OP has not judged anyone's body.

She does have a tendency to misbehave in the forums. I'm guessing a lot of people are reacting to her prior actions more than the ones in this thread.

She isn't always very nice. But then, I'm not always very nice, either. Just in a different way.

rachseby

It's really hard to say without meeting her why she would make that comment. But what I have found in my weight journey is that you should find where you are happy with yourself, and take anything that anyone else says with a grain of salt. For too long I let other people's perceptions of me control my thinking about myself, and this is something that I am really trying to work on. So my .02--the only opinion that should truly matter is your own.