Of refeeds and diet breaks
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Yes, thinking whole seed mustard, spring onions, maybe some red capsicum (raw, it can pretend it's tomato, they are family after all). No eggies for Nony
When I was growing up, my mother used to put bacon in our potato salad. It was mayo based. Could you get some veggie bacon to crumble on? It would add a lovely flavor.
Now I'm wanting some of this ish. I might have to make some during my diet break.
The veggie bacon has both egg and gluten in it. I could get tvp bacon bits though!! Stellar idea.
My usual potato salad recipe calls for half a jar of Best Foods real mayo Whip up the mayo with lots of paprika and some cracked pepper, chuck in the potatoes, halved cherry tomatoes, spring onion. Done. It's amazing.
TVP bacon bits sound perfect, and I'm jealous. I wish soy liked me.1 -
I just eat actual bacon bits. Sorrynotsorry. Actually a bit sorry. Veggie for 10 years me apologises profusely for omnivorous me. Sorry pigs.4
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How is it that I turn what should be a one hour errand trip into two and a half?? Lots of wandering around hardware shop valiantly trying to find things myself (actually I did find the first couple, then got put wrong for the next), one supermarket to get groceries, but they only had real bacon bits, wholefoods/bulk bin shop (always forget about that place!) which I wandered around twice looking for bacon bits, and also came out with cherry liqueur chocs and a Terry's dark choc orange for Christmas day, and was reminded of veg sausages as a lunch option, but theirs had oats and didn't say gluten-free, another supermarket for watermelon and veg sausages, plus plum sauce for the sausages. Will probably have sausages, corn on the cob and a salad for dinner.
This evening's mission is to put up some more support wire (No.2, not 8) for the grape vine, and prune out some of the extra growth. I'm also meant to take out some of the bunches of fruit, which pains me even though I know it needs to be done.3 -
Christine_72 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »MegaMooseEsq wrote: »
Hearing about all this delicious fruit in the middle of a Minnesota winter is making my eyes water! Although at least clementines are back in season, which are a big favorite of mine.VintageFeline wrote: »Do you know, I didn't have pavlova. Actually, it would be more accurate to say I don't remember having pavlova because my memory is fooked so I might have done and not know.
You need to come back then.
Jandals (which I hate with a firey passion).
I had to Google what Jandals were, I've never heard that term. I live in thongs (flipflops) pretty much year round, I even take my walks in them. I don't even own a pair of sneakers
Me too. My winter walking shoes aren't even sneakers or runnng shoes, they're suede pull ons not lace ups. I wear 'jandels' all winter inside at night for slippers and never anything else anytime in spring summer and fall. The weather is pretty nice year around here in central Spanish mountains though and inside floors are tiles, so probably that contributes to jandel wearing.
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »
Revolutionary!! Someone should try that, eh?
I dig Omar Isuf, I have a list of lifters I sort of follow and find his videos pretty easy to swallow.
Anywho. Back to the maintenance/bulk. It really is maintenance though isn't it. No wild swings up or down and end of Jan with probably be the estimated 5lb gain. Which would be in the range if I was maintaining at this weight. Okay, okay so slow bulk, but great practice for when maintaining.
Am sat at 168.4lbs. Still cramming down (easier to do mega shakes as well as food) an average of 3000 cals per day. Total gain in 17 days is 1.4lbs. I expect it to be around 1.8lb gain by next Thursday, so another 0.4lb or so. No temptation to restrict/binge/over-exercise to compensate. I have felt really full some days as timing can be off when busy and cram cram cram the calories happens. No triggering here either!
Feel encouraged by the scale going up and the strength gains. I am lifting like a crazy mofo (shoulders, chest and back are really improving with the surplus) in the gym. Added 200mg caffeine pre-workout. Going to cycle back onto creatine next week, even though most people say just take 5g per day no cycling, etc needed. Might just make 5g creatine another daily supplement. Keep forgetting to take my spoon of malt and cod liver oil and log it, whoops!
Bit of niggly aching in hands and feet. But I put that down to cold/winter and bad circulation (I used to get chilblains in Zimbabwe in winter). Have been doing more self hand and foot massages than usual. Oh and zero extra cardio. I do have plans to try and incorporate 3 mile runs (which take me around 25-28mins) three times a week in the New Year. No need for long, fast walks then. I can run now (and have tried several times when I was in deficit May - October), but my left knee and achilles regions complain a lot afterwards.
That's my run down and input for a while. 6.5 weeks until deficit. Mind and body happy. Glad to see more "flexible dieting disciples" on board : )
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I am still wincing at the picture of those sunburned feet in flip flops!1
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Terebynthia wrote: »I am still wincing at the picture of those sunburned feet in flip flops!
Yeah, its like my summer tan feet marks twin picture!
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Dammit! It's Christmas at our house - what major appliance is going to crap out this year? The water heater, for the win! After googling and trying every fix known to the internet, my husband has declared it officially dead. His next day off is Wed., so we're going to have nothing but cold water until then.0
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Oh that sucks @mph323
Where's my goddam pms bloat gone??? Christmas bonus, Christmas bonus, Christmas bonus...
Also, my partitally broken Fitbit strap fully broke during the night, so now I really do need to get on to contacting them for a replacement.
Little fishy has gone to the stream at the Rainbow Bridge. Buried her last night0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Oh that sucks @mph323
Where's my goddam pms bloat gone??? Christmas bonus, Christmas bonus, Christmas bonus...
Also, my partitally broken Fitbit strap fully broke during the night, so now I really do need to get on to contacting them for a replacement.
Little fishy has gone to the stream at the Rainbow Bridge. Buried her last night
Awww, so sorry!0 -
Thank you
On the bright side, it rained a little! Was raining when I woke up, and now appears to be attempting some very light drizzly stuff, which wont do much for the ground, but the plants can at least absorb some water through their leaves. It's also meant to blessedly stay down around 20-22 C today. I am quite seriously on the verge of judiciously watering some of the native plants, the pungas (tree ferns) are looking particularly sad. They're a forest plant ffs. Whoever planted this garden didn't have a clue what they were doing. Like, there's a juvenile Lancewood out there. Whoever planted that obviously has no clue how big that is going to get - http://www.terrain.net.nz/friends-of-te-henui-group/trees-native-botanical-names-m-to-q/lancewood.html. There is no room for an adult Lancewood in that spot. Likewise, Yucca right beside the path, that is now attacking me as I walk past. Only real choice is to cut back the leaves on one side. Not my garden (rental), so I can't just transplant things, though I may talk to the rental agent about getting the landlady to come around and see if she wants to get that done.0 -
Oh, and bright side of pungas with dying (dead) branches I reckon I can use those to create a moisture-retaining 'forest floor' which will also suppress the weeds.0
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Sorry to hear about your fish Nony, and your water heater mph.
I'm having a very, very hungry day today, so I'm just eating all the things and not really caring. I'm also horribly fatigued and worn out. I will be well over calories for the day and don't care.
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It would take just slightly larger than avg of the metabolically active organs accounting for most of your RMR to push you higher.
Shoot - maybe it's all in the brain activity higher than normal!!!!!
And with hypo - perhaps it could have been 30% higher.
@heybales I think you just called @Psychgrrl brain too big for her britches
*which considering how young she looks*
@PAV8888 The waitress at my birthday dinner last night did not believe me.
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Yes, thinking whole seed mustard, spring onions, maybe some red capsicum (raw, it can pretend it's tomato, they are family after all). No eggies for Nony
When I was growing up, my mother used to put bacon in our potato salad. It was mayo based. Could you get some veggie bacon to crumble on? It would add a lovely flavor.
Now I'm wanting some of this ish. I might have to make some during my diet break.
The veggie bacon has both egg and gluten in it. I could get tvp bacon bits though!! Stellar idea.
My usual potato salad recipe calls for half a jar of Best Foods real mayo Whip up the mayo with lots of paprika and some cracked pepper, chuck in the potatoes, halved cherry tomatoes, spring onion. Done. It's amazing.
Could you sub in plain greek or icelandic yogurt for some of the mayo?0 -
Dammit! It's Christmas at our house - what major appliance is going to crap out this year? The water heater, for the win! After googling and trying every fix known to the internet, my husband has declared it officially dead. His next day off is Wed., so we're going to have nothing but cold water until then.
We really need an empathy button. So Sorry about the lack of hot water. That sucks! Can you find a coupon or deal for a free day-pass gym trial and use their showers? (Not my first rodeo.)2 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Yes, thinking whole seed mustard, spring onions, maybe some red capsicum (raw, it can pretend it's tomato, they are family after all). No eggies for Nony
When I was growing up, my mother used to put bacon in our potato salad. It was mayo based. Could you get some veggie bacon to crumble on? It would add a lovely flavor.
Now I'm wanting some of this ish. I might have to make some during my diet break.
The veggie bacon has both egg and gluten in it. I could get tvp bacon bits though!! Stellar idea.
My usual potato salad recipe calls for half a jar of Best Foods real mayo Whip up the mayo with lots of paprika and some cracked pepper, chuck in the potatoes, halved cherry tomatoes, spring onion. Done. It's amazing.
Could you sub in plain greek or icelandic yogurt for some of the mayo?
I'm going full yoghurt. Didn't make the potato salad last night as intended, cos I crashed hard from all the lack of sleep, so napped a couple of hours then proper bed by 8.30!
I think I'm going to try my hand at making stuffed grape leaves for Christmas day. All the recipes I've found so far make 50 of the buggers, which is a bit excessive really, so I'll be thirding that I reckon. Also debating between traditional rice and quinoa.0 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Sorry to hear about your fish Nony, and your water heater mph.
I'm having a very, very hungry day today, so I'm just eating all the things and not really caring. I'm also horribly fatigued and worn out. I will be well over calories for the day and don't care.
I'm still majorly struggling with fatigue. I haven't needed to sleep this much in a long time. Might up the vit D supplement to see if that helps. At this point I'm fairly sure I'll have to cancel going to my friend on Christmas day, I am in no state to be doing 1+ hour drives there and back never mind trying be jolly for the day on top. My brain will do all the noping out of it all.
I also ate all the things yesterday. Was way over. But had a restrained week and haven't been as hungry today so all on track for not gaining this week, hurrah! 1 break week down, two to go.0 -
Dammit, we need to be able to hit two reactions at once, one being the non-existent empathy one.
Anyway, this I think will be the go for the stuffed grape leaves, also conveniently the right sized recipe: http://foodfash.com/2012/05/18/quinoa-stuffed-grape-leaves/
I don't have a Dutch oven (wtf?? I'm Dutch), but I figure a pyrex casserole dish will do the same job. Also, no pine nuts in this recipe. They would still work with quinoa, right? Cos pine nuts...0 -
Dammit! It's Christmas at our house - what major appliance is going to crap out this year? The water heater, for the win! After googling and trying every fix known to the internet, my husband has declared it officially dead. His next day off is Wed., so we're going to have nothing but cold water until then.
We really need an empathy button. So Sorry about the lack of hot water. That sucks! Can you find a coupon or deal for a free day-pass gym trial and use their showers? (Not my first rodeo.)
Thanks for the condolences, and yep I have a gym membership and will eventually go take a shower there, mostly because I'm going out to dinner.
GottaBurn and VintageFeline - so sorry about the fatigue! It's so much harder around the holidays, when there's so much extra stuff that has to get done. I hope it turns out to be shorter episodes rather than longer.0 -
VintageFeline wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Sorry to hear about your fish Nony, and your water heater mph.
I'm having a very, very hungry day today, so I'm just eating all the things and not really caring. I'm also horribly fatigued and worn out. I will be well over calories for the day and don't care.
I'm still majorly struggling with fatigue. I haven't needed to sleep this much in a long time. Might up the vit D supplement to see if that helps. At this point I'm fairly sure I'll have to cancel going to my friend on Christmas day, I am in no state to be doing 1+ hour drives there and back never mind trying be jolly for the day on top. My brain will do all the noping out of it all.
I also ate all the things yesterday. Was way over. But had a restrained week and haven't been as hungry today so all on track for not gaining this week, hurrah! 1 break week down, two to go.
I wish I could give in to sleep, but I know if I do it's just asking for a migraine. I snuck a week catnap sitting up in my chair here. Probably 10 minutes tops. Not enough to mess with my silly blood vessels.
I hope you experience an uptick in how you feel so that you feel up to seeing your friends on Christmas. I'm sure your feline companions are lovely and you'd make sure you had a nice day for yourself, but still.0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Dammit, we need to be able to hit two reactions at once, one being the non-existent empathy one.
Anyway, this I think will be the go for the stuffed grape leaves, also conveniently the right sized recipe: http://foodfash.com/2012/05/18/quinoa-stuffed-grape-leaves/
I don't have a Dutch oven (wtf?? I'm Dutch), but I figure a pyrex casserole dish will do the same job. Also, no pine nuts in this recipe. They would still work with quinoa, right? Cos pine nuts...
Oh yes, definitely add pine nuts, they'd be really nice in there for both fat and mouth feel.
I tend to not get as much fat as you do, but what fat I do get, I like to get from nuts or avocados because tasty.1 -
Dammit! It's Christmas at our house - what major appliance is going to crap out this year? The water heater, for the win! After googling and trying every fix known to the internet, my husband has declared it officially dead. His next day off is Wed., so we're going to have nothing but cold water until then.
We really need an empathy button. So Sorry about the lack of hot water. That sucks! Can you find a coupon or deal for a free day-pass gym trial and use their showers? (Not my first rodeo.)
Thanks for the condolences, and yep I have a gym membership and will eventually go take a shower there, mostly because I'm going out to dinner.
GottaBurn and VintageFeline - so sorry about the fatigue! It's so much harder around the holidays, when there's so much extra stuff that has to get done. I hope it turns out to be shorter episodes rather than longer.
Fortunately, our holidays are very low key and we're almost all ready. I have to do a last minute grocery shop this week and have to take the kids out to pick up things for hubby's stocking. That's about it.0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Not my garden (rental), so I can't just transplant things, though I may talk to the rental agent about getting the landlady to come around and see if she wants to get that done.
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »Not my garden (rental), so I can't just transplant things, though I may talk to the rental agent about getting the landlady to come around and see if she wants to get that done.
Oh I'm meant to maintain the garden as part of my lease agreement (should get on to that, it's a weedy mess atm), but I don't think that includes moving trees!! The yukka would take some work to dig out too, and really not sure where a more sensible place to put them would even be.0 -
Dammit! It's Christmas at our house - what major appliance is going to crap out this year? The water heater, for the win! After googling and trying every fix known to the internet, my husband has declared it officially dead. His next day off is Wed., so we're going to have nothing but cold water until then.
We really need an empathy button. So Sorry about the lack of hot water. That sucks! Can you find a coupon or deal for a free day-pass gym trial and use their showers? (Not my first rodeo.)
Thanks for the condolences, and yep I have a gym membership and will eventually go take a shower there, mostly because I'm going out to dinner.
GottaBurn and VintageFeline - so sorry about the fatigue! It's so much harder around the holidays, when there's so much extra stuff that has to get done. I hope it turns out to be shorter episodes rather than longer.
The fatigue is just my brain braining. I do very little of anything round the festive season, no work nights out and no family. Just a few gifts for my closest friends. And if I go to them just the drive up there and back taking my designated item (this year I am on soft drinks duty for the drivers).
So yeah, all I need to do is a festive treat and food shop and I am done. Sort of. I need to get something else for my friends OH but I am stuck. His Amazon wish list is no help, I love him but I am not buying him a £160 new kitchen tap or an OG Nintendo! Maybe when I win the lottery.1 -
Sigh, oh very nice downstairs neighbour lady!
Thank you for 105 grams of the baklava you just finished making.
Because, like, I haven't already been running +170 Cal per day above maintenance for the first 16 days of December! :3 -
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Yeah, we need an empathy button here. So many of you struggling with one thing or another at the moment.
Looking at my calorie averages for the last week or so, I have been eating at maintenance overall, which would explain why I haven't dropped any more weight. I'm OK with that at the moment.
I have been working on my thinking and looking at this as a lifelong thing, which takes the pressure off losing to a deadline. This is something that I haven't done before. I *do* want to lose the last two kilos, possibly three to give me more of a maintenance range, but for once I am not racing to get there. I'm sort of thinking in positive terms of new habits and strategies, rather than deprivation and avoidance. It's helping.
I won't have a bodyweight scale for the next couple of weeks and I've decided not to take a food scale on my holidays either. I'm just going to log my food as best I can and eat calories somewhere between deficit and maintenance. I will be happy if I maintain my current weight for that time, and any loss will be a bonus. So...I'm not exactly planning a diet break, but it might end up being one calorie-wise.8 -
It is crazy windy here. Just picked up 5.5kg of grapefruits that had fallen off the tree. Uh, not sure what I'm going to do with those!! And presumably more will shake loose throughout the day.
Potato salad was a hit with my tastebuds and my belly. Had that, a couple of veg sausages and some cucumber for lunch.1
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