December 2017 Running Challenge
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@HonuI showed him the jars of whole cherries and prepared minced candied fruit.
"I chopped the cherries, but I did not do the fruit, you see...."
.....I know most of you are too young to get it...only adult onset runners will know the reference!
@HonuNui LOL!!! Adult onset runner, singing along here.
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12/1 = 4 miles
12/2 = 4 miles
12/3 = 7 miles
12/4 = 4.5 miles
12/5 = rest day
So, I woke up (early without my alarm) all excited because a cold front came through last night. Dropped the temp to 55 degrees F. Alas, I have a taper/ rest day thing scheduled. Guess I am going into work early instead. My running training app only has 5 miles over two runs scheduled until Sunday. I am going to be climbing the walls here pretty soon.
December Goal = Run a freakin marathon and not die.
Upcoming Races
12/10 = BCS Marathon
1/6 = River Road Run 1/2 marathon1 -
girlinahat wrote: »@HonuNui - I find myself eating Christmas cake well past Easter. When my mum makes fruit cake it's basically fruit bonded together with a small amount of cake mixture. Dark and yummy. Christmas cake of course is made in about October and soaked in brandy frequently, so rarely dries out......
Yep, I made my Christmas cake in October and it's been getting a weekly soaking. It's going to be sooooo good by the time I'm ready to eat it. And I've found some Wensleydale cheese to go with it too.
Got a 5k run scheduled for tonight. I'll probably do it on the treadmill rather than go outside in the dark. Haven't really got a goal for this month, but I have completed my challenge for the year which was to run at least one road race per month. And I'm already signed up for my January and February 2018 races.
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@_nikkiwolf_ - some people would call my holiday streak crazy (or me crazy for doing it while cycling and lifting.). The first day I ran a mile after a long bike ride I thought I would die - my calves were SO tight and felt like bricks. But the next time it was easier and this weekend it was fine. I think the most amazing thing I did was run on 12/1 after way too much wine at a banquet the night prior. I woke up thinking ... "I'm going to be sick on this run, but just get it done". And I was fine, in fact seemed to cure the hangover. Not that I recommend following my example.
12/1 - 1.5 miles #RWRunStreak Day9
12/2 - 43 miles cycling + 1 mile #RWRunStreak Day 10
12/3 - 40 miles cycling + 1 mile #RWRunStreak Day 11
12/4 - 3.1 miles + String Training Glutes W3-A - #RWRunStreak Day 12
12/5 - 4 miles -- #RWRunStreak Day 13
Daytona Beach HM - 2/4/19
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So I found out last minute yesterday that Ben was leaving again this morning so he'll basically be gone 95% of the time until Christmas going between different remote northern locations and Fort Mac. Pretty depressing but rig wife realities, so we stayed up way too late and my lazy *kitten* didn't wake up until 4 this morning, so I had to curtail my run to be back in time.
I'll probably do speed work tonight after the girls go to bed because thats lousy effort on my part
December 1- 18
December 2- 52
December 3- 20+8
December 4- 20
December 5- 16
134/626km
2018 Races
*Gord's Frozen A** 50K, February 19
*JAJA Trail Marathon, April 1
*Red Deer Marathon, May 20
???Lone Wolf Last Man Standing Race, June 17
*Cactus Coulee Crawl 30km, TBA June
*Eddie's Half Marathon, TBA June
*Run in the Buff 120km TBA August
*Lost Souls 100 Mile September 7
???Lewiston Trail Ultra September 29
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So, smart people, I am looking at my 2018 race options and I found a Saturday half marathon in March.
https://www.active.com/harmony-pa/running/distance-running-races/shamrock-shuffle-2018?int=72-3-A1
I can not race most Sundays, and around here Sunday is when most of the big races are, so I was happy to see this one. Well here is the thing, it says:The Half Marathon is one of the toughest half marathons in the tri state area with a big climb about 6 miles into the race.
So as you know, hills do not scare me. I hit elevations in the four digits all the time on my runs. But was wondering just how bad the hill was. So went looking for a course map and found this:
http://www.mapmyrun.com/us/zelienople-pa/shamrock-shuffle-half-route-178849674
Umm... the steepest climb is 2.5% grade?? What am I missing here? How is this race "one of the toughest half marathons"?
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@JessicaMcB you lazy lout.... sleeping in all the way to 0400, I can't believe it....LOL
December goal: Keep kicking at Zumbro training
Nominal mileage goal: Let's say 120?? I really don't know. Going for like 70% trail
12/1- 7.2
12/2- 8.2
12/3- 9.5
12/4- 5.8
12/5- REST
Total: 16.7
Today's notes: Ugh... I knew it, I just knew it. I went for my Tuesday run last night, in anticipation of 5-7in (12.7-17.8cm) of snow along with sustained 20mph winds through the night and morning.... Well, That didn't happen. My running OCD is going insane! I didn't sleep well last night, waiting to see how much I was going to have to shovel, and now, there's nothing! Ugh...... Last nights run was good enough that I knew I shouldn't break my schedule by running today, but still.....ugh.....
2018 races
3/28- END-SURE 50k
4/13- Zumbro Endurance Race 100 Mile
5/19- Superior Trail 25k (Lottery)
7/8- Afton 50k???
9/8- Superior Trail 50 mile (Lottery)
10/xx Wild Duluth 50k? 100k?0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »So, smart people, I am looking at my 2018 race options and I found a Saturday half marathon in March.
https://www.active.com/harmony-pa/running/distance-running-races/shamrock-shuffle-2018?int=72-3-A1
I can not race most Sundays, and around here Sunday is when most of the big races are, so I was happy to see this one. Well here is the thing, it says:The Half Marathon is one of the toughest half marathons in the tri state area with a big climb about 6 miles into the race.
So as you know, hills do not scare me. I hit elevations in the four digits all the time on my runs. But was wondering just how bad the hill was. So went looking for a course map and found this:
http://www.mapmyrun.com/us/zelienople-pa/shamrock-shuffle-half-route-178849674
Umm... the steepest climb is 2.5% grade?? What am I missing here? How is this race "one of the toughest half marathons"?
Often I find these are buzz words that races like to play up to attract entrants. In an age where the racing industry is starting to hemmorage money and collapse it makes sense that they would want to make themselves seem exclusive in some way. This is not helped by the fact that there are generally no tangible standard they are required to meet to make such a claim and difficulty is "subjective". A good example in Alberta can be found between CDR, Sin 7 and LSU- all claim to be the toughest ultra in the province while being vastly different races (and therefore pretty hard to accurately compare imo).
Personally I don't think this half is something for you to sweat Pastor V, it doesn't look like anything you can't bang out0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »So, smart people, I am looking at my 2018 race options and I found a Saturday half marathon in March.
https://www.active.com/harmony-pa/running/distance-running-races/shamrock-shuffle-2018?int=72-3-A1
I can not race most Sundays, and around here Sunday is when most of the big races are, so I was happy to see this one. Well here is the thing, it says:The Half Marathon is one of the toughest half marathons in the tri state area with a big climb about 6 miles into the race.
So as you know, hills do not scare me. I hit elevations in the four digits all the time on my runs. But was wondering just how bad the hill was. So went looking for a course map and found this:
http://www.mapmyrun.com/us/zelienople-pa/shamrock-shuffle-half-route-178849674
Umm... the steepest climb is 2.5% grade?? What am I missing here? How is this race "one of the toughest half marathons"?
Perhaps it's tough compared to the other HMs in the area? You'll totally ace it.
This is the half I've done a couple of times (Boston Marathoners will recognize part of the route). It was known as the Very Hilly Chilly and the best bit was running down Heartbreak Hill. The route changed a couple of years ago and the race is now known as the Not So Hillly Chilly.
http://www.mapmyrun.com/us/newton-ma/chilly-half-marathon-route-12076262
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JessicaMcB wrote: »Often I find these are buzz words that races like to play up to attract entrants. In an age where the racing industry is starting to hemmorage money and collapse it makes sense that they would want to make themselves seem exclusive in some way. This is not helped by the fact that there are generally no tangible standard they are required to meet to make such a claim and difficulty is "subjective". A good example in Alberta can be found between CDR, Sin 7 and LSU- all claim to be the toughest ultra in the province while being vastly different races (and therefore pretty hard to accurately compare imo).
Personally I don't think this half is something for you to sweat Pastor V, it doesn't look like anything you can't bang out
Thanks, but y'all do have a rather elevated impression of what I can do!
Though, in this case, I am forced to agree. My run this weekend had more hills and more feet and I thought of it as a comfortable run:
https://www.strava.com/activities/1301088960
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BruinsGal_91 wrote: »Perhaps it's tough compared to the other HMs in the area? You'll totally ace it.
Hmm. Maybe? This will be my first actual HM race I have run (yeah, I jumped right to fulls. Silly me!) so I do not have anything to compare it to. But "tri-state" seems to imply THREE STATES. That is an awfully bold claim.
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December Running Challenge
Goal: 90 km
Ran: 18/90 km
5/12/17 Run 6 km
4/12/17 Run 6 km
3/12/17 Walk 1 hour
2/12/17 rest day
1/12/17 6 km0 -
PastorVincent wrote: »BruinsGal_91 wrote: »Perhaps it's tough compared to the other HMs in the area? You'll totally ace it.
Hmm. Maybe? This will be my first actual HM race I have run (yeah, I jumped right to fulls. Silly me!) so I do not have anything to compare it to. But "tri-state" seems to imply THREE STATES. That is an awfully bold claim.
maybe the HMs in the area are just wimpy?0 -
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12/1 - 5 miles. Still loving the warmer than average weather!
12/2 - 5 miles.
12/3 - Busy / rest day.
12/4 - 5.15 miles. This weather is nuts! It was 63° at 4:45 a.m.
12/5 - 4.75 miles. 35° temperature drop in 24 hours...Brrr!
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My snowman just stands still even if it should be at nineteen and 81 to go.
@Jettaska Some times TF is slow to update.juliet3455 wrote: »
Darn your snowman is ahead of mine, I need to hit the trails.
@PastorVincent That looks like a pretty small elevation change for such a claim. If it was in Florida or the middle of the Pancake Flat Prairies I could understand the bias. That's just a saturday long run.0 -
juliet3455 wrote: »@PastorVincent That looks like a pretty small elevation change for such a claim. If it was in Florida or the middle of the Pancake Flat Prairies I could understand the bias. That's just a saturday long run.
Might be able to debut a half marathon at sub 2 hours then. That be cool and put me on track for a sub 4 full.
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Date Miles today - Miles for December
12/1 5 miles - 5
12/2 14.5 miles - 19.5
12/3 REST DAY
12/4 8 miles - 27.5
12/5 9.5 miles - 37
Elkmont Hound Dog Half (unofficial) - 1/21 << 1:46:48 2 OA
Elkmont Hound Dog Half (rescheduled) - 2/18 << 1:41:04 1 in AG & 24 OA
Kentucky Derby Festival Marathon - 4/29 << 4:09:59
Upcoming races:
Oak Barrel Half Marathon - 4/7/18
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PastorVincent wrote: »juliet3455 wrote: »@PastorVincent That looks like a pretty small elevation change for such a claim. If it was in Florida or the middle of the Pancake Flat Prairies I could understand the bias. That's just a saturday long run.
Might be able to debut a half marathon at sub 2 hours then. That be cool and put me on track for a sub 4 full.
It would be a confidence booster. you're already there abilitywise, so maybe a tune up race where you go sub 2 on the half would eliminate any doubt.0 -
12/01 - Intentional rest day
12/02 - Run Santa Run 5k - 22:11 PR!
12/03 - 13.5 miles @ 9:24
12/04 - unplanned rest day
12/05 - ?
Big Hary Audacious Goal: Sub 4 hours in Pittsburgh 2018!
Official Marathon PR: 4:11:28
Next Races (more as I find them):
02/10/18 - Valentine's Day 15k
03/17/18 - Shamrock Shuffle Half Marathon
05/06/18 - Pittsburgh Marathon - aiming for sub four hours.
05/12/18 - Glacier Ridge 50k Trail Ultra (I must hate myself)
2020 - Disney World Dopey! (if can raise funds)
Looking bad for schedule-wise to get a run in today, too many meetings and sadly they are important ones but I wanted to update my race schedule before I forgot. 0 -
MNLittleFinn wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »juliet3455 wrote: »@PastorVincent That looks like a pretty small elevation change for such a claim. If it was in Florida or the middle of the Pancake Flat Prairies I could understand the bias. That's just a saturday long run.
Might be able to debut a half marathon at sub 2 hours then. That be cool and put me on track for a sub 4 full.
It would be a confidence booster. you're already there abilitywise, so maybe a tune up race where you go sub 2 on the half would eliminate any doubt.
I am confident with reasonable conditions I could have a sub 2 hour half. Sub-1:50 maybe even. The Sub-4 Marathon I am not yet there. Hopefully by May!0 -
@PastorVincent Where do you get the 2.5% grade from? In the course map you linked, the "big hill" seems to climb from 306m at 7.7km to 384m at 8.4km. 78m climb over 700m is an 11% slope in my book. Maybe the result is different in miles...PastorVincent wrote: »So, smart people, I am looking at my 2018 race options and I found a Saturday half marathon in March.
https://www.active.com/harmony-pa/running/distance-running-races/shamrock-shuffle-2018?int=72-3-A1
I can not race most Sundays, and around here Sunday is when most of the big races are, so I was happy to see this one. Well here is the thing, it says:The Half Marathon is one of the toughest half marathons in the tri state area with a big climb about 6 miles into the race.
So as you know, hills do not scare me. I hit elevations in the four digits all the time on my runs. But was wondering just how bad the hill was. So went looking for a course map and found this:
http://www.mapmyrun.com/us/zelienople-pa/shamrock-shuffle-half-route-178849674
Umm... the steepest climb is 2.5% grade?? What am I missing here? How is this race "one of the toughest half marathons"?
It's still totally doable, especially since you are used to hills. But I can see why people how don't run any hills in training would call it tough.
It says 152m elevation gain in total. For comparison: I did two 20km races this year: one with 200m elevation gain, one with 300m elevation gain. They were both "hilly" along some parts of the course, but I wouldn't call either of them "scary". The half marathon I ran a year ago had 75m elevation gain, and I would have called that "flat".
... in any case: just go ahead and sign up for that race!
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Quick question for everyone who owns Saucony Kinvaras: What's your experience on the life span compared to other running shoes?
After yesterdays 5km run, I woke up this morning with a bit of pain in my left knee again; when I was perfectly fine after a 14km run on Sunday.
Looking back through my running log, I noticed that this time as well as the last time (two weeks ago) my knee hurt, I had been running in the Kinvaras the evening before. So of course now I'm hoping the easy solution to fix my knee would be to replace them.
On the other hand, it could be just a coincidence. I usually run 600km to 700km in a pair of shoes before replacing them (and then I usually only retire them because I want an excuse to buy new shoes ^^). The Kinvaras only have 460km (=285mi) on them, so they should be good for quite a few more runs...
So now I'm wondering if anybody else has noticed Kinvaras wearing out more quickly than normal?0 -
Ran 5 miles (more of a jog as it was a slow one)
Total to date in Dec: 21 miles. Another 79 miles to go.3 -
_nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
@PastorVincent Where do you get the 2.5% grade from? In the course map you linked, the "big hill" seems to climb from 306m at 7.7km to 384m at 8.4km. 78m climb over 700m is an 11% slope in my book. Maybe the result is different in miles...PastorVincent wrote: »So, smart people, I am looking at my 2018 race options and I found a Saturday half marathon in March.
https://www.active.com/harmony-pa/running/distance-running-races/shamrock-shuffle-2018?int=72-3-A1
I can not race most Sundays, and around here Sunday is when most of the big races are, so I was happy to see this one. Well here is the thing, it says:The Half Marathon is one of the toughest half marathons in the tri state area with a big climb about 6 miles into the race.
So as you know, hills do not scare me. I hit elevations in the four digits all the time on my runs. But was wondering just how bad the hill was. So went looking for a course map and found this:
http://www.mapmyrun.com/us/zelienople-pa/shamrock-shuffle-half-route-178849674
Umm... the steepest climb is 2.5% grade?? What am I missing here? How is this race "one of the toughest half marathons"?
It's still totally doable, especially since you are used to hills. But I can see why people how don't run any hills in training would call it tough.
It says 152m elevation gain in total. For comparison: I did two 20km races this year: one with 200m elevation gain, one with 300m elevation gain. They were both "hilly" along some parts of the course, but I wouldn't call either of them "scary". The half marathon I ran a year ago had 75m elevation gain, and I would have called that "flat".
... in any case: just go ahead and sign up for that race!
@_nikkiwolf_, I get it from this:
Which is a little under the map.
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12/1 – 0
12/2 – 5 miles
12/3 – 0
12/4 – 7 miles
12/5 – 5 miles
17 of 100 miles
The weather channel said 61F at 4:30 this morning, can't beat that for December. I walked out the door in shorts and a short sleeve and it started to rain. Went back in and grabbed a hat and light rain jacket. It rained pretty decent the entire time, but was nice. Took Macy for a walk and we just got in the door when the heavens opened up big time. My legs were tired and I was a bit too. I dropped my calories since Skip told me it time to lose the weight I gained the last year, I think the quote was "Mommy you are beautiful but that weight has to go" ha ha. I need to find that sweet spot of losing weight but fueling enough.
@RunTimer what a beautiful picture
@ceciliaslater I hope it gets better soon. You need to put an out of order sign on the treadmills you like so others won’t get on them. ;-) Glad you were able to get on a good treadmill (I can’t believe the words good and treadmill just came out of my mouth LOL) and had no pain. Can’t help you with the Garmin question sorry.
100% right @MobyCarp Oh, well. Running for 24 minutes beats not running at all, by a wide margin.
@Jettaska and @abutcher2122 the ticker sometimes take a bit to catch up even when you are seeing it right on the webpage. It always catches up.
@HonuNui love the “chopped the cherries” but you need to sing it ha ha! @katharmonic awesome meme – that song will be in my head all day
@rolaasad I can promise you every person here started at less than 1 mile. What I love about this group is there is zero judgement and 100% support, no matter if you run ½ or 200 miles, if you are hurt, if you are coming back, if you are having a baby or getting married, if you lost someone or just want to brag on your kiddos. This group is awesome.
@girlinahat what a great way to start the day with a catch up chat!
@PastorVincent one man’s tough is another man’s flat.
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skippygirlsmom wrote: »@rolaasad I can promise you every person here started at less than 1 mile. What I love about this group is there is zero judgement and 100% support, no matter if you run ½ or 200 miles, if you are hurt, if you are coming back, if you are having a baby or getting married, if you lost someone or just want to brag on your kiddos. This group is awesome.
This is very true! We have quite a range of runners here too. Some working on their first none stop mile all the way to @JessicaMcB who is annoyed when she ONLY gets 81 miles in a run and oversleeps to FOUR AM!
We have all types for sure
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Ah, I see. But that is the hill from the less-steep direction on the way back. Guess that table is incomplete... I looked at the profile and measured the steepest bit, with is on the way out and sounds more impressivePastorVincent wrote: »_nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
@PastorVincent Where do you get the 2.5% grade from? In the course map you linked, the "big hill" seems to climb from 306m at 7.7km to 384m at 8.4km. 78m climb over 700m is an 11% slope in my book. Maybe the result is different in miles...PastorVincent wrote: »So, smart people, I am looking at my 2018 race options and I found a Saturday half marathon in March.
https://www.active.com/harmony-pa/running/distance-running-races/shamrock-shuffle-2018?int=72-3-A1
I can not race most Sundays, and around here Sunday is when most of the big races are, so I was happy to see this one. Well here is the thing, it says:The Half Marathon is one of the toughest half marathons in the tri state area with a big climb about 6 miles into the race.
So as you know, hills do not scare me. I hit elevations in the four digits all the time on my runs. But was wondering just how bad the hill was. So went looking for a course map and found this:
http://www.mapmyrun.com/us/zelienople-pa/shamrock-shuffle-half-route-178849674
Umm... the steepest climb is 2.5% grade?? What am I missing here? How is this race "one of the toughest half marathons"?
It's still totally doable, especially since you are used to hills. But I can see why people how don't run any hills in training would call it tough.
It says 152m elevation gain in total. For comparison: I did two 20km races this year: one with 200m elevation gain, one with 300m elevation gain. They were both "hilly" along some parts of the course, but I wouldn't call either of them "scary". The half marathon I ran a year ago had 75m elevation gain, and I would have called that "flat".
... in any case: just go ahead and sign up for that race!
@_nikkiwolf_, I get it from this:
Which is a little under the map.
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_nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
Ah, I see. But that is the hill from the less-steep direction on the way back. Guess that table is incomplete... I looked at the profile and measured the steepest bit, with is on the way out and sounds more impressivePastorVincent wrote: »_nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
@PastorVincent Where do you get the 2.5% grade from? In the course map you linked, the "big hill" seems to climb from 306m at 7.7km to 384m at 8.4km. 78m climb over 700m is an 11% slope in my book. Maybe the result is different in miles...PastorVincent wrote: »So, smart people, I am looking at my 2018 race options and I found a Saturday half marathon in March.
https://www.active.com/harmony-pa/running/distance-running-races/shamrock-shuffle-2018?int=72-3-A1
I can not race most Sundays, and around here Sunday is when most of the big races are, so I was happy to see this one. Well here is the thing, it says:The Half Marathon is one of the toughest half marathons in the tri state area with a big climb about 6 miles into the race.
So as you know, hills do not scare me. I hit elevations in the four digits all the time on my runs. But was wondering just how bad the hill was. So went looking for a course map and found this:
http://www.mapmyrun.com/us/zelienople-pa/shamrock-shuffle-half-route-178849674
Umm... the steepest climb is 2.5% grade?? What am I missing here? How is this race "one of the toughest half marathons"?
It's still totally doable, especially since you are used to hills. But I can see why people how don't run any hills in training would call it tough.
It says 152m elevation gain in total. For comparison: I did two 20km races this year: one with 200m elevation gain, one with 300m elevation gain. They were both "hilly" along some parts of the course, but I wouldn't call either of them "scary". The half marathon I ran a year ago had 75m elevation gain, and I would have called that "flat".
... in any case: just go ahead and sign up for that race!
@_nikkiwolf_, I get it from this:
Which is a little under the map.
Ah. Well, 11% for 700m is nothing to worry about. It will slow my pace of course but still should have good shot at a 1:50 time.0 -
@PastorVincent - I see the same 11% grade hill that @_nikkiwolf_ sees. It's earlier than the climb that's rated a 5, but shorter. IIRC, a cycling friend tells me that length as well as steepness go into climb ratings, which are used much more for cycling than for running. 2.5% grade would be average for the climb rated a 5, which actually has some short downhill relief in the middle. Max grade for that stretch would have to be greater.
I also totally don't get a claimed total gain of 499 ft and an elevation chart showing a trip from below 1000 ft to 1260 ft, twice, plus other smaller climbs. Something doesn't add up.1
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