March 2018 Running Challenge
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@MobyCarp Ouch! My husband the ex-Airborne Ranger says if this sort of thing keeps up the running group needs falling lessons! I bet you did look a mess before you cleaned up, faces bleed like crazy. Hope you feel better soon.
Mar 21: 5k
Did 5k in under 29 minutes again, actually a few seconds faster than previous PR, so apparently it's not a fluke.
Re: cadence and running form. I am naturally very stompy and a heel striker, so I've been working on my form. Running on the boardwalk helped with the stompiness since I can hear myself so I just tried to run quieter. As far as the heel strike / air time situation, for some reason really concentrating on relaxing my arms and hands makes it better, I don't know why. I think my hips and upper body shift more forward when my arms are relaxed, which naturally changes my center of balance. It was really noticeable the first few times I did it, like switching into a different gear - suddenly I was running much faster with the same amount of effort. Then the other thing which helps is concentrating on leading with my knees, not my feet, when I take a step forward, and kicking out backwards so my glutes activate more. So far it seems to be helping, I've gone from a turtlicious 36 min 5k to 29 min in just a few months.5 -
So I got food poisoning. This has been a great month. Lol
My pace has jumped back to where it was before vacation though.
24.12/62
Upcoming Races -
Orphan Run 4 Hope 5k - April 14
Spartan Sprint - December 9
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March Running Totals (miles)
3/1 – 5.57 easy
3/2 – rest day
3/3 – 16.09 paced run
3/4 – 7.22 easy with hills
3/5 – rest day
3/6 – 6.21 easy with fast finish
3/7 – 6.60 group run
3/8 – 6.24 easy with fast finish
3/9 – rest day
3/10 – 18.07 paced run
3/11 – 6.54 easy
3/12 – rest day
3/13 – 6.51 warmup and group run
3/14 – 6.01 at marathon pace
3/15 – 6.23 easy
3/16 – travel day
3/17 – 6.99 warm up, 8K race, cool down
3/18 – travel day
3/19 – 6.11 easy shading to MP
3/20 – 5.29 easy with hard stop
3/21 – 6.62 group run
March running total to date – 116.30
Nominal challenge goal: 180 miles
Real goals: Build base. Work toward being able to run 26.2 miles by Patriots' Day.
Today's notes – This morning I felt beat up (see prior posting), and this afternoon when I got my glasses adjusted the tech was concerned about the measurement thingie hurting when I put it on my face; but I have my glasses straightened. By late afternoon, I was pretty sure I could handle a group run at 6.
So . . . the group went out slower than normal. I looped around a couple times to keep from getting too far ahead when I didn't know the route. Got halfway, and knew my way back. Took the longer route, because the shorter way wasn't guaranteed to be over 6 miles. Noticed myself creeping faster than MP, and forced myself to back off; and I dropped back to the pack, which had accelerated to something comfortable for me. Got my miles in, and boosted my confidence. Nice weather, and a comfortable run.
Runners are different than vision techs. Several people asked when I fell, and one asked the obligatory question of how did the other guy look. A true runner comment: "Well, at least nothing was hurt." Oh, I lost a pair of tights and scratched up my glasses. "But you weren't hurt." Yes, I know what he meant. It was nice to be reminded that I can still run, I didn't totally break.
The face will still scare non-runners, but at least the glasses aren't crooked any more.
2018 races:
February 17, 2018 Freezeroo #5 (Valentines Run "In Memory of Tom Brannon" 8 Mile) (Greece, NY) finished in 54:48
February 24, 2018 Freezeroo #6 (White House Challenge 4.4 mile) (Webster, NY) finished in 28:46
March 17, 2018 USATF Masters 8K (Shamrock 8K, Virginia Beach, VA) finished in 31:55
March 24, 2018 Spring Forward 15K (Mendon, NY)
April 16, 2018 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA)7 -
March goal: 96 miles
3/1: 5 miles
3/4: 9 miles
3/6: 4.1 miles
3/7: 4.6 miles
3/8: 5 miles
3/11: 10.5 miles
3/13: 5 miles (intervals)
3/14: 5.2 miles
3/15: 3 miles
3/18: 11.3 miles
3/20: 5 miles
3/21: 5 miles
72.7/96 miles completed
I had a nice run today. It was windy, but I guess that's pretty normal for March.
@katharmonic Congrats on getting into the marathon!
@mobycarp Yikes! I hope you heal up quickly.
@rheddmobile Congrats on the PR! I'm still chasing a sub 30 minute 5k.
@danniej312 Hope you're feeling better.
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Another 2.8km, seems I've gained a little more endurance only walked once so that's good.6
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3/1: 2.5
3/3: 3
3/4: 4
3/6: 3
3/9: 1.7 of hill repeats
3/11: 3
3/12: 3
3/18: 4
3/19: 2.3
3/21: 4
30.5/50 miles for March4 -
@PastorVincent My Garmin is consistently low on the dreadmill, at about the same factor for all machines. So it just thinks my stride is bigger than it really is, I guess. Good thing we have GPS so it can be accurate outside.1
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3/11 4 miles
3/16 1 mile
3/17 4.45 miles
3/21 4 miles
Total 13.45/35
I think I can still reach my goal this month if I fit all my runs in.
I was looking at my cadence in Garmin. I think mine is low. 156 tonight. I don't know how accurate Garmin is. I will have to look into this more, never really paid attention to it.4 -
@MobyCarp ouch! Good to hear you got your glasses fixed and are back at it!
@katharmonic congrats on getting into your race!
March goal: 60 miles
3/1/2018 5 mi
3/2/2018 rest
3/3/2018 6 mi
3/4/2018 snowboarding w/kids
3/5/2018 xtrain rowing machine
3/6/2018 3.1 mi
3/7/2018 rest
3/8/2018 3.1 mi
3/9/2018 3 mi
3/10/2018 biked 11 mi w/my dad and kids
3/11/2018 7 mi
3/12/2018 bike commute day 1 (9 mi)
3/13/2018 2.4 mi
3/14/2018 3.1 mi + bike commute
3/15/2018 rest
3/16/2018 3.1 mi + bike commute
3/17/2018 rest
3/18/2018 8 mi
3/19/2018 bike commute
3/20/2018 4 mi
3/21/2018 3.1 mi + bike commute
March total: 50.9 mi
Upcoming races:
4/29/2018 5K Top Pot Donut Dash
7/8/2018 See Jane Run! HM?
8/12/2018 Lake Union 10K
Well, I just surpassed last month’s goal today, so my plan to increase mileage is going well! Today’s run didn’t feel quite as effortless as yesterday’s, but still nice. It was rainy today, and a rainy bike ride too, but I can’t really complain with temps in the mid-50s.6 -
@Orphia - How's the toe box on the Vomeros? I too hear they are good for long runs, but in the past I have had problems with Nike being too narrow.
@karllundy Seems great! I need to test them on a long run, as I have a long left third toe which gets a beating with every pair of shoes I've ever had (Asics x4, Brooks x3), but these seem to be roomier than any of them.
They were actually recommended to me as having a roomy toe box and great for long runs. Can't wait for Sunday!3 -
@MobyCarp will have to audition for " The Black Eyed Peas" my bad.
Hate those Sidewalk Snake's. I once was tripped by what looked like a piece of grass, turned out to be a very old marker/locator flag for an underground power line. Like you I did a face plant before I could react. At least it was on a bush-wilderness trail with lots of tall grass to cushion.0 -
lporter229 wrote: »3/1-10 miles
3/2 -30 minutes swimming + 35 minutes yoga
3/3-10 miles w/ 8 @ (a little slower than) tempo
3/4-14 miles+stretching
3/5-Rest Day
3/6- Yoga+ 1.6 miles with Stella+ 5.3 miles speed work
3/7-6 miles easy (1.9 with Stella, 4.1 solo)
3/8-P90X3 Total Synergistics
3/9-12 miles
3/10-12 miles
3/11-10 miles
3/12_Rest day (very much needed!)
3/13-8.2 miles (including 1.5 with Stella)+ Stretching
3/14- Strength Training + 32 minutes stationary bike
3/15-6 miles
3/16- Strength Training + 30 minutes Elliptical
3/17-3.1 miles- Shamrock Shuffle 5K
3/18-9.4 miles- Heart Mini 15K
3/19- Rest Day
3/20-6.5 miles
Miles: 114.1/150
Yoga/stretch: 4/12
Strength/P90X3: 3/6
Bonus cross training: 3 sessions
I did an easy 6 miler lats night. Well, pace was easy. Run wasn't especially easy because of my extremely sore hamstring. I was sore going out, so I chose a flat run on the bike path and put on some chill War on Drugs music to keep me from picking up the pace too much. In all honesty, though, I am not sure that I could have. My hammie was tight. I knew that I was risking it by running hard in both of my races this past weekend, so I don't know why I am surprised. I think I have to come to terms with the fact that I can't/shouldn't run fast anymore. My legs seem to handle the mileage well, but it's when I run too many miles under 8 minute pace that I get myself into trouble. I tried to do a short run with Stella when I got home and I had to bail on it because my leg hurt and she was pulling too much. I tried stretching for a few minutes when I got home and it was really uncomfortable. I am hoping things are a little better today. Going to keep it at easy pace again.
@lporter229
Running hard in 2 races is bound to beat you up! Hopefully it's just because of that.
I'm sitting out this week's interval session with the run club because of a complaining hamstring/glute today too. I ran on Tuesday and Wednesday and had a big week last week, so hopefully a couple of days off running will let me run easy/long on the weekend.
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I am 400 posts behind...I have been moving and starting a new job but I am still running I am a little behind pace to make my goal, but I am still going to try and make it.
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Wow, everyone’s information on cadence is super helpful! I have already been running cadence drills lately, but I am going to look at all of your info on changing form. I’m hoping that working to improve those will help me out over the next few months.4
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@katharmonic - congrats!!! A friend of mine ran it and said he felt like a celebrity with all the cheering crowds.
@mobycarp - oh my gosh! That's so crazy that you tripped. Glad it wasn't any worse. But, just ouch!
This morning I was running in the dark as usual and I decided to leave the neighborhood and go out on the main street. I only do this once a month or less because I don't want anyone to see me and see a pattern (between 4:30-5:30am). I had my flashlight but it started getting dim and I turned it off and back on and it stopped working. I'm on a sidewalk that isn't all that even (where as in my neighborhood I'm on the street) so I need a light. Wasn't sure what to do... so I stopped and then remembered the light on my iPhone. Wow, that worked great! Other than having to hold it but it was so bright! I need to be home by 5:30am and usually I just calculate how far I can go based on where I am/time, but I lost track and next thing I know it's time for me to be home and I'm 1/2 a mile away. Not a huge deal - just 4-5 minutes away but it was fun because I was just in the zone! Feeling good.
3/1 - rest day
3/2 - 5 miles + Strength training - W6-C
3/3 - 26 miles cycling
3/4 - 3 miles + strength training -w6-D
3/5 - 3.5 miles + strength training W7-A
3/6 - 4.5 miles
3/7 - strength training W7-B
3/8 - 4.5 miles + strength training W7-C
3/9 - REST DAY!
3/10 - 3.2 miles + strength training W7-D
3/11 - 51 miles cycling
3/12 - rest day
3/13 -10K for the Run for the Deep + Strength training W8-C
3/14 - Strength training W8-D
3/15 - 4.5 miles w/tabatas
3/16 - Strength training W8-A
3/17 - 34 miles cycling
3/18 - 47 miles cycling
3/19 - 4 miles on treadmill.
3/20 - 3.5 with tabatas
3/21 - Strength training W8-D repeating week 8
3/22 - 4.5 miles
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@MobyCarp Ouch!
6 miles this am. I"m still taking it easy for now, recovery from a short race should be short but I don't want to press too soon.
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Up to 51 miles for the month. Apart from one race and a parkrun, it's all been on the treadmill. Those darn nor' easters are killing me.
Registration for the JP Morgan Corporate Challenge opens this morning, so that's June's race accounted for. Except I've had to dig out my emergency credit card to pay for it seeing as some miserable scrote has managed to get hold of my credit card details and tried to order twenty Domino's pizzas and enough wings to feed an entire football stadium. My bank realised it wasn't me (they're used to seeing race registrations and running gear on the card), so they halted the payments.3 -
PastorVincent wrote: »SO TRACKING QUESTION
Today, as an example, I ran on the big fancy expensive dreadmills at the gym. I set the controls for 7.5 MPH (8 min pace) and random incline with an average of 4% grade. I ran for 61:15 and the dreadmill registered 7.65 miles. I overshot my hour target but that is a secondary point...
I tracked the run using my Gramin 935 and Garmin footpod. I have run with the footpod many times outside on auto-calibrate. The Garmin claims I ran 7.99 miles (had I known I would have kept going lol) at 7:41 pace for the same 61:15 time.
So which one is more likely to be correct?
I am no expert, but as a guess... The dreadmill is measuring distance because it knows how fast that belt is moving and can figure out pretty accurately what the distance was.
distance = speed (miles per minute the belt is moving) x time (minutes treadmill operating)
The footpod? I do not know too much about how they work in accuracy, but I believe they are using gyroscopes to measure quick changes in movement to figure out how many steps you're taking, estimating when your feet are on the ground vs in the air, cadence, ect. My guess is that the footpod is estimating distance by counting your steps and then applying what your average stride length is. If I remember right, they say you have to run outdoors in GPS mode a few times for that thing to work and understand how you run? The only problem I would think with that is, people run differently on a treadmill (smooth belt going a constant speed and forcing you to maintain a certain pace) than outdoors (uneven surface that remains stationary). That and GPS distance is extremely inaccurate for measuring precise distances. (remember our discussion on running the tangents and how race courses are certified distances)
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@kevaasen- Interesting! Thanks for taking the time to do the calculations. It's interesting to see the comparison between our cadence and strides at a similar pace. What do you think beats you up more, running a 10K race or a long training run? For me, it would definitely be the race, even compared to a 20 mile run.
@MobyCarp- Yikes! Be careful out there man. I hope you heal quickly!
@Stoshew71- Thanks for pulling those videos out. Looking forward to watching them during lunch.0 -
So, there's supposed to be 8 inches of snow from tomorrow morning through Saturday morning, right where my Saturday race is.... Seems like a decent amount of people are dropping already... AG placement for slow old me??? Bring it on!6
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Did 3.5 on the trail last night and 4.4 on the road this morning. Didn't know how the back-to-back would feel, but I'm fine. The key was a good night's sleep. I probably had time to do 4 on trail before heading back to pick up my son, so I'll keep that in mind for next week. I am so, so fortunate that I have such great access to trails!
My run last night has an enormous hill of around 700' elevation gain the first mile, and I *almost* ran the whole way up. I had to walk (power hike?) for about 20 yards. It was super muddy, too, so it was nice to have some practice contending with that. Also saw a nice herd of mule deer and stopped for a photo op (I'm on Instagram as im_juneaus_mom if anyone cares to follow because I'm awful at uploading my photos from phone > pc > MFP).4 -
@katharmonic Congrats!0
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3/1-10 miles
3/2 -30 minutes swimming + 35 minutes yoga
3/3-10 miles w/ 8 @ (a little slower than) tempo
3/4-14 miles+stretching
3/5-Rest Day
3/6- Yoga+ 1.6 miles with Stella+ 5.3 miles speed work
3/7-6 miles easy (1.9 with Stella, 4.1 solo)
3/8-P90X3 Total Synergistics
3/9-12 miles
3/10-12 miles
3/11-10 miles
3/12_Rest day (very much needed!)
3/13-8.2 miles (including 1.5 with Stella)+ Stretching
3/14- Strength Training + 32 minutes stationary bike
3/15-6 miles
3/16- Strength Training + 30 minutes Elliptical
3/17-3.1 miles- Shamrock Shuffle 5K
3/18-9.4 miles- Heart Mini 15K
3/19- Rest Day
3/20-6.5 miles
3/21-2.1 miles with Stella + P90X3 Dynamix
Miles: 116.2/150
Yoga/stretch: 4/12
Strength/P90X3: 4/6
Bonus cross training: 3 sessions
A combination of a crazy day at work, legs still being sore, crappy weather and having to get home to let the dog out since my hubby is out of town all led to the decision to swap my training schedule around and take a rest/ cross train day yesterday instead of Friday. It was probably a wise decision, but it means that I will have to run 10 miles on Friday, which will again mean three runs of 10+ miles in a row. Oh well, that's kind of the point of the Hansonish plan I am doing anyway, so I guess it will be good race day prep.
Instead of my scheduled 6 mile run yesterday, I took Stella for a run. She did great and we ended up running 2.1 miles with not too much stopping and an average pace of 9:05. Running with her is kind of like a cross between a fartlek and strides. I am going to count it as my speed work out for the week since a true speed workout will not be happening.
After we finished our run, I attempted to do a P90X3 workout, Dynamix, which is mostly a bunch of dynamic stretching with a great deal of emphasis on the glutes, hips and ham strings. It was a bit more like goat yoga though as Stella insisted on being involved. We played tug of war through some of the lunge sequences. When she finally got tired of being ignored, she got her bone and laid next to me chewing it, constantly inching closer until she was literally underneath my chest while I was doing plank exercises. She is such a brat but she cracks me up so I can't stay mad at her. I did manage to finish the work out though and my hips/hamstrings are feeling so much better because of it.6 -
So this month has been....frustrating and rough!
I had goals. Oh ya, big goals! I was bumping up the mileage, Feeling pretty darn good, too, farthest I have done in any of my previous attempts (half witted attempts, I might add, this was the 1st time with an actual structured plan) cranking out the miles on the CT10K, new running bra, shoes, clothes, life was great! Then......my body decided to kick back. I started having "broncho-spasms", asthma-like. Gasping for air-like. Started after my run on 3/3. Two doctor visits and an ER visit, waiting on a Pulmonologist visit next week, 2 daily inhalers, but I still haven't run since then. Still having issues.
I have started doing yoga daily until we can figure me out (ya, like THAT will start anytime soon!), but I really do want to get back to running. I did a work sponsored "at the desk mini 15 min work-out" and that left me gasping & coughing. Maybe someday soon......
3/1 - 3.62 miles
3/3 - 3.77 miles - 7.39 miles total9 -
dreamer12151 wrote: »So this month has been....frustrating and rough!
I had goals. Oh ya, big goals! I was bumping up the mileage, Feeling pretty darn good, too, farthest I have done in any of my previous attempts (half witted attempts, I might add, this was the 1st time with an actual structured plan) cranking out the miles on the CT10K, new running bra, shoes, clothes, life was great! Then......my body decided to kick back. I started having "broncho-spasms", asthma-like. Gasping for air-like. Started after my run on 3/3. Two doctor visits and an ER visit, waiting on a Pulmonologist visit next week, 2 daily inhalers, but I still haven't run since then. Still having issues.
I have started doing yoga daily until we can figure me out (ya, like THAT will start anytime soon!), but I really do want to get back to running. I did a work sponsored "at the desk mini 15 min work-out" and that left me gasping & coughing. Maybe someday soon......
3/1 - 3.62 miles
3/3 - 3.77 miles - 7.39 miles total
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »dreamer12151 wrote: »So this month has been....frustrating and rough!
I had goals. Oh ya, big goals! I was bumping up the mileage, Feeling pretty darn good, too, farthest I have done in any of my previous attempts (half witted attempts, I might add, this was the 1st time with an actual structured plan) cranking out the miles on the CT10K, new running bra, shoes, clothes, life was great! Then......my body decided to kick back. I started having "broncho-spasms", asthma-like. Gasping for air-like. Started after my run on 3/3. Two doctor visits and an ER visit, waiting on a Pulmonologist visit next week, 2 daily inhalers, but I still haven't run since then. Still having issues.
I have started doing yoga daily until we can figure me out (ya, like THAT will start anytime soon!), but I really do want to get back to running. I did a work sponsored "at the desk mini 15 min work-out" and that left me gasping & coughing. Maybe someday soon......
3/1 - 3.62 miles
3/3 - 3.77 miles - 7.39 miles total
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Not feeling too hot yesterday, even left work early yesterday, but since i haven't ran much lately, I decided to try and run, and surprisingly I was able to do 5 miles.
3/1-2.5 miles
3/2-3.5 miles + P90X3 CVX
3/3-6.25 miles
3/4-3 miles + P90X3 agility X
3/6-5 miles + P90X shoulders and arms & ab ripper X
3/7-2 miles + Legs and back
3/8-3.5 miles
3/11-6 miles
3/12-2 miles +P90X3 The challenge (chest and back)
3/13-4.5 miles
3/15-3 miles +P90X3 CVX
3/17-2.5 miles
3/18-1.5 miles + 30 minutes total body lifting
3/20-P90X3 CVX
3/21-5 Miles
50.25/65 miles
Upcoming races:
May 12- Montana Women's run 5 miles
July 17-Missoula Marathon
September 16- Montana half Marathon7
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