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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »BarbellCowgirl wrote: »“If you were obese as a child, you will always be overweight. Your body won’t allow you to lose weight if you were overweight when you were young. It means you were born with the gentics to be overweight.”
or the look at your parents,if they are thin you will be thin if fat you will be fat.
I love this one - my mom was obese most of her adult life and my father has always been built like a twig... where does that leave me?!?!?3 -
I went to a meeting recently where the speaker was speaking as an expert about "digestive health".
It was a hearty broth of pure nonsense, but here's just one highlight: Everyone will benefit from giving up dairy, gluten and (especially) sugar. Sugar is poison, because it spikes your insulin. But honey is a superfood, especially local honey. Fruit is good for you, because fiber. Agave syrup is OK, because it's natural, but not a superfood, partly because no fiber. Stevia is bad like sugar, just like other things that taste sweet (even if they have no nutrients/calories) because your body has been programmed to . . . I dunno, do something bad . . . just because it has a sweet taste like sugar.
I'm sitting there thinking " . . . but . . . but . . . it's all just sucrose, glucose and fructose!" (except the Stevia of course)
I am not lying, exaggerating, or misrepresenting. (My career made me very good at taking accurate notes on things I violently disagree with, because it was an essential skill.)
His incoherent steaming pile of pseudoscientific crapitude was being delivered to a group of cancer survivors . . . and the whole talk was implicitly hawking a multi-visit (or online) multi-step remediation program.
"If you have questions, be sure to fill out the question sheet with your contact info, and leave it on the table, so we can get back to you." (In response to an question requesting actual actionable specifics.)
He was coy about cost, but said his office would give you the paperwork to submit to your insurance company for insurance coverage. (Odds most US insurance with cover, I think: Near zero.)10 -
That I should stick to 1200-1400 calories a day.
I'm not saying it's a terrible approach for everyone. Sure, if you're smaller and you're sedentary, that might be what you need to do. But for me, at 170+ lbs, that's not going to work out.
Luckily I knew better for myself.9 -
I started working with a trainer who about lost her *kitten* when I told her I didn't eat breakfast. She said I HAVE to eat breakfast within an hour of waking up. I said, I am not hungry in the morning, why would I force myself to eat if I am not hungry? I have lost a LOT of weight without eating breakfast. Then she told me to stop eating dairy because it was so bad for me. I said, you feed your son dairy. She said, that's different. I knew it was not going to work out and I parted ways with her.
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I went to a meeting recently where the speaker was speaking as an expert about "digestive health".
It was a hearty broth of pure nonsense, but here's just one highlight: Everyone will benefit from giving up dairy, gluten and (especially) sugar. Sugar is poison, because it spikes your insulin. But honey is a superfood, especially local honey. Fruit is good for you, because fiber. Agave syrup is OK, because it's natural, but not a superfood, partly because no fiber. Stevia is bad like sugar, just like other things that taste sweet (even if they have no nutrients/calories) because your body has been programmed to . . . I dunno, do something bad . . . just because it has a sweet taste like sugar.
I'm sitting there thinking " . . . but . . . but . . . it's all just sucrose, glucose and fructose!" (except the Stevia of course)
I am not lying, exaggerating, or misrepresenting. (My career made me very good at taking accurate notes on things I violently disagree with, because it was an essential skill.)
His incoherent steaming pile of pseudoscientific crapitude was being delivered to a group of cancer survivors . . . and the whole talk was implicitly hawking a multi-visit (or online) multi-step remediation program.
"If you have questions, be sure to fill out the question sheet with your contact info, and leave it on the table, so we can get back to you." (In response to an question requesting actual actionable specifics.)
He was coy about cost, but said his office would give you the paperwork to submit to your insurance company for insurance coverage. (Odds most US insurance with cover, I think: Near zero.)
that is horrific.
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I spoke to the nutritionist at my crossfit gym and she told me I would almost certainly never weigh less than I did in high school. I'm 5'5" and in high school I was about 165, so that is still overweight. I was super bummed to hear that.
Luckily I've since done some research, and I had the audacity to set my goal weight to 150. Who even knows if I can attain such a crazy low weight, haha.7 -
anderska1011 wrote: »I spoke to the nutritionist at my crossfit gym and she told me I would almost certainly never weigh less than I did in high school. I'm 5'5" and in high school I was about 165, so that is still overweight. I was super bummed to hear that.
Luckily I've since done some research, and I had the audacity to set my goal weight to 150. Who even knows if I can attain such a crazy low weight, haha.
She is full is crap! Don’t listen to her, seriously. I’m 58 and I am proof that one can weigh less than in high school! Do eet!5 -
anderska1011 wrote: »I spoke to the nutritionist at my crossfit gym and she told me I would almost certainly never weigh less than I did in high school. I'm 5'5" and in high school I was about 165, so that is still overweight. I was super bummed to hear that.
Luckily I've since done some research, and I had the audacity to set my goal weight to 150. Who even knows if I can attain such a crazy low weight, haha.
A nutritionist at a Crossfit gym?
*shudders*
Do they just scream "PALEO!!! PAAYYY-LEEEE-OHHHHH!!!!!" at everybody?
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This word always makes me cringe. "expert" ugh. Always question why a person is labeled or called an expert. News, especially local news will call out an "expert" to cover some current trend. :rollseyes: What the @!#$ makes them an expert?I went to a meeting recently where the speaker was speaking as an expert about "digestive health".
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DoubleUbea wrote: »
This word always makes me cringe. "expert" ugh. Always question why a person is labeled or called an expert. News, especially local news will call out an "expert" to cover some current trend. :rollseyes: What the @!#$ makes them an expert?I went to a meeting recently where the speaker was speaking as an expert about "digestive health".
I was searching for a term more neutral than "chiropractor" because that one almost always starts a "discussion" around these parts, even though "chiropractor" is strictly accurate in this case.
Maybe "expert" was the wrong choice of euphemism.
He would say his education was the qualifier. He graduated from an institution that specialized in these sorts of holistic/wholistic modalities, especially the primacy of "digestive health". His mentor was one of the pioneers in the field, apparently.
Truthfully, I'm not sure how good a representative of said mentor this local dude was. He said a bunch of things that made me think he might not have been the sharpest guy in your average classroom, no matter the nature of that classroom.6 -
The ones that annoy me most are:
-You need to exercise to lose weight
-You need an ungodly amount of water/protein
But by far the worst for me is when people think you can spot reduce. If I did 100 sit ups a day, besides the weight I lost all over, I'd only gain a 6 pack under my keg lol. Can you imagine a world where you could spot reduce? So many people would look very weird lol. Like people with jobs where they just use their arms,9 -
I was told the other week by someone I have known forever that counting calories is pointless as companies only have to be within 20% of an accurate figure on their packaging.
Ok, but, 'within 20%' is still way more information than proceeding to eat 6 cookies, 4 twix, huge pizza, large bag of doritos, 2 cinnamon whirls and 4 san miguel in 2 hours and say it is all fine cos, 'am doing IF'. (rough calcs I made at weekend, this is around 6000 cals, and no way is anything being burnt)
This may be an issue with this person in future as they aren't losing weight - but they are trying to - but pooh pooh any comments regarding calories.
Next time they actively mock me for choosing anything based on calorie:protein ratio we may have a falling out!9 -
Erinloveable wrote: »Can you imagine a world where you could spot reduce? So many people would look very weird lol. Like people with jobs where they just use their arms,
All of us long-term overeaters would have really skinny jaws from all the chewing.
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Okay, I see the word 'expert' far too often and it is usually meaningless.I was searching for a term more neutral than "chiropractor"
I see a few chiropractors pushing diet books as well. My pain management nurse practitioner is into holistic approach... he recommended a 'deflame diet', I researched the author... he was a chiropractor.
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Yours too!!!! Mine also tells me that running is overrated and I should take a nap instead.6 -
Yours too!!!! Mine also tells me that running is overrated and I should take a nap instead.
Mine tells me that a loaf of cinnamon raisin toast is a perfectly well rounded day of eating.9 -
Carbs are bad.
You can never have treats on a diet.
You can just work out and eat whatever you want.
Keto/Paleo/Atkins.
Fruit is bad because it has too much sugar.
Waist trainers and sit ups are what you need for a small waist.
Squats will get you a better butt.
You dont have to count calories.
Spot reduction.
Starvation mode.6 -
oh another one was some woman told me to cut out all white foods(like someone else mentioned) but she said I had to eat whole grains,veggies,lean meats and cut out dairy and fruit otherwise I would get fat eating fruits,but if I lost weight cutting the other things out I would become skinny fat lol she was saying how she was a body builder yet she had NO pics proving otherwise. she had NONE showing any muscle off.she was telling me you dont need a deficit to lose weight. same with some guy last night. he was light weight training and gaining muscle will burn fat faster than a deficit. while muscle does burn fat I told him per lb of muscle the fat burn isnt as high as he thinks it is.1
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