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middlehaitch wrote: »I felt sooooo left out I have been racking my brain trying to think of anything.
Best I have is something someone said to my sister.
Don't eat melon after your meal as all the water will flush the nutrients out.
Cheers, h.
@nutmegoreo, if you are short of pine cones, hit me up. I will swear all the neighbours pine cones land in my back garden. (Will need a percentage of profit)
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be taking off much. I have two pine trees, and I have enough pine cones to cover my non-existent orders.3 -
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GaleHawkins wrote: »
If it works for one, it is because they are managing to remain in a calorie deficit without tracking those calories.16 -
That peanuts were unhealthy.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »
If it works for one, it is because they are managing to remain in a calorie deficit without tracking those calories.
So are you thinking it was Keto that resolved my 40 year binging issue without tracking CICO?14 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »
If it works for one, it is because they are managing to remain in a calorie deficit without tracking those calories.
So are you thinking it was Keto that resolved my 40 year binging issue without tracking CICO?
I am sure that eating keto enabled you to stay within the required calories for you to lose weight. For some, it is the best way to go to maintain a calorie deficit and prevent binge eating. This is totally different to being told that you don't need to worry about CICO because you will not gain on keto. Some actually find that keto doesn't help much with satiety, or increases binge eating because of restrictions. If you don't find fat filling this diet certainly isn't going to help you much with weight loss being that fat is significantly more dense than either protein or carbs.9 -
This is going to sound silly, but the concept of cheat meals/days. I had no idea how easy it was for me to undo 6 days worth of deficit in one day. I'm fine with balancing my calories weekly so that I can splurge a bit on the weekends, but I HAVE to do the math, not just eat with abandon.
I cant even stand to hear or read the term....CHEAT DAY
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This is going to sound silly, but the concept of cheat meals/days. I had no idea how easy it was for me to undo 6 days worth of deficit in one day. I'm fine with balancing my calories weekly so that I can splurge a bit on the weekends, but I HAVE to do the math, not just eat with abandon.
I cant even stand to hear or read the term....CHEAT DAY
Boy oh boy. If you think I can't eat (and properly digest and absorb) more than enough calories on Day 7 to overwhelm any calorie deficit I might have created on Days 1-6, you just don't know me at all. (Or any other chronic overeater, for that matter.)5 -
I don't think anybody actually lived like that (certainly not the glass of water thing, anywayEvelyn_Gorfram wrote: »
Upper Middle Class Women in the late 1950's didn't have pelvic floors (or vaginas). They gave birth by Caesarean section, after having conceived by drinking out of the same glass of water as their husband.snickerscharlie wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »MagnumOpus1 wrote: »jennifer_417 wrote: »"Never lift anything without a spotter." I think I can handle these 5 lb dumbbells without any help, tyvm.
Hahahaha, I've heard the same thing. Also, you don't want to go heavier than 5lb dumbbells or you'll bulk up and end up with arms like a bodybuilder. Yeah, cause I'm sure Arnold Schwarzenegger curled 5lb dumbbells to get his physique....
So true! The myth that a female just needs to step within a few inches of a dumbbell and she'll turn into the Hulk. Seriously, I wonder where that absolute nonsense came from. Once you're educated it's truly t laughable.
I think it ultimately stems from the vestigial taboo against women exercising at all. You know, because we might become strong and healthy,* or temporarily lose our periods (and thus the reproductive capacity on which our value depends), or (gasp!) actually leave the house....
(*Which, of course, could turn us all into lesbians, don'cha know...)
If you have Amazon Prime, there's a great scene in "The Incredible Ms. Maisel" that shows what was considered a "workout" for women in the late 50s (with the sole aim of getting or keeping a man, of course). I think it was the second episode of season 1.
Did it involve Kegels?
Not the 1950s I lived in. But we weren't Upper Middle Class.
TV about the 1950s is not the 1950s as the 1950s were for most. Heh.
Mom did try that vibration belt machine thing once or twice, though. ). But, when I was growing up, that was the sort of ideal that it seemed like women were meant to aspire to.
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DoubleUbea wrote: »MoveitlikeManda wrote: »"make sure you work out in the mornings, dont leave it till the evening because you will be too tiered, eat food instead of work out and that food then sits in your tummy all night turning to fat because you dont work out to burn it of"
When I was in the best shape of my life I used to work out in the mornings... but I worked third shift, after the gym I would go to bed.
I have heard the don't eat before you go to bed thing several times throughout my life.
the thing is, if working out in the morning is good for you, great.
if working out in the evening is good for you, great.
workout when it suits *you*, the main thing is your doing something.
the problem with this nurse is she actually believes that ALL of the food you eat at night, if you dont work out after trns to fat.
so say I just ate 200g chicken, 80g rice and 300g veg, thats 580g of food that wont be digested it will TURN IN TO FAT.
^^thats not how it works.
she is also a believer that fat TURNS IN TO muscle. you know like magic5 -
setitandforgetit wrote: »It's only bad advice if it doesn't work.
Not true. I could tell you that the best way to get from one side of Asia to the other is to walk. I mean, you could, but it's not exactly good advice.9 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »
Upper Middle Class Women in the late 1950's didn't have pelvic floors (or vaginas). They gave birth by Caesarean section, after having conceived by drinking out of the same glass of water as their husband.snickerscharlie wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »Evelyn_Gorfram wrote: »MagnumOpus1 wrote: »jennifer_417 wrote: »"Never lift anything without a spotter." I think I can handle these 5 lb dumbbells without any help, tyvm.
Hahahaha, I've heard the same thing. Also, you don't want to go heavier than 5lb dumbbells or you'll bulk up and end up with arms like a bodybuilder. Yeah, cause I'm sure Arnold Schwarzenegger curled 5lb dumbbells to get his physique....
So true! The myth that a female just needs to step within a few inches of a dumbbell and she'll turn into the Hulk. Seriously, I wonder where that absolute nonsense came from. Once you're educated it's truly t laughable.
I think it ultimately stems from the vestigial taboo against women exercising at all. You know, because we might become strong and healthy,* or temporarily lose our periods (and thus the reproductive capacity on which our value depends), or (gasp!) actually leave the house....
(*Which, of course, could turn us all into lesbians, don'cha know...)
If you have Amazon Prime, there's a great scene in "The Incredible Ms. Maisel" that shows what was considered a "workout" for women in the late 50s (with the sole aim of getting or keeping a man, of course). I think it was the second episode of season 1.
Did it involve Kegels?
Well that doesn't sound like much fun to practice.
Oh you can practice all you want but you won't get pregnant. How's his man juice supposed to find your floating vagina?! (Medical professionals used to think that your vagina didn't stay in place and just floated around inside you. It was their justification for so many stupid things.)
My favorite bad advice was from my mom. It wasn't exactly advice but when I finally mentioned offhand that I had been eating better and she was appalled at me drinking a diet Coke. First, some weeks I have none, some weeks I have five. 12 oz cans mind you. It's better than when I was drinking at least one 20oz regular soda a day. Now I drink a cup of coffee and the rest of my day is usually water or flavored sparkling water. Secondly, she was the queen of diet Coke. Who do you think I got it from? Thirdly, she thinks Fresca is better. They literally both have aspertame. And lastly, that's not what made me fat and it's not what will keep me from getting not fat.4 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »I heard this one today. I was buying some stuff at the corner store today and picked up a Snickers. The guy who works there has been watching me shrink, and we're friendly. He always asks me about weight loss stuff because he's obese. He asked me if it was my cheat day today. I said, no, I don't do cheat days. He said "If you eat candy on diet days you won't lose weight, and you absolutely should have cheat days or your metabolism will slow down. I want what's best for you, if you want to eat this candy bar it's best if you make today a cheat day".
You: "Well, this method has been successful for me so far! I prefer a moderation method rather than a starve and binge method that nets zero weight loss." 4 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »I heard this one today. I was buying some stuff at the corner store today and picked up a Snickers. The guy who works there has been watching me shrink, and we're friendly. He always asks me about weight loss stuff because he's obese. He asked me if it was my cheat day today. I said, no, I don't do cheat days. He said "If you eat candy on diet days you won't lose weight, and you absolutely should have cheat days or your metabolism will slow down. I want what's best for you, if you want to eat this candy bar it's best if you make today a cheat day".
You: "Well, this method has been successful for me so far! I prefer a moderation method rather than a starve and binge method that nets zero weight loss."
Oh, I just nodded and thanked him. He's the kind fatherly type who genuinely wants to help and wears it on his sleeve. It's hard to disagree with such people over minutia, I would feel guilty. Sometimes "being right" is just not worth it.12 -
My favorite is "listen to your body"
Yeah, right. The only thing my body ever tells me is how nice it would be to swallow a couple a cheesecakes whole...38 -
Slather your belly in Vicks Vaporub and/or Albolene before you put on the waist trainer.
You'll sweat out the fat super fast. Don't forget your ACV in a shot glass before and after dinner.
I went to an orientation with my friend, and part of the woo discussed involved vitamins and preservatives added to processed foods cause the fat cells in your digestive tract to bind together, resulting in your metabolism getting confused and storing them as fat. Therefore you can only trust fresh fruits and veggies, because the evil FDA allows this to happen, so we get fat and sick, therefore Big Pharma.6 -
squeaker87 wrote: »Lillymoo01 wrote: »squeaker87 wrote: »Someone told my mother that if she would pierce the cartilage of her ear (I can’t think of the name of the part of the ear!) that it would curb her appetite and she would lose weight. So she did it. *insert eye roll*
I haven't heard that one but I have had friends who have had relief from regular migraines by getting daith piercings.
Yeah I’m pretty sure that’s the same piercing. I’ve heard that it helps with migraines too. I don’t know where on earth my mom heard that it would help her lose weight. But it’s been two years and it’s fair to say that it hasn’t helped her lose any!
I tried this in desperation for migraine. It didn't help at all, but my ears look great! 1 -
My favorite is "listen to your body"
Yeah, right. The only thing my body ever tells me is how nice it would be to swallow a couple a cheesecakes whole...
Oh my god, this. My body asks for pan-fried cheese globs as a midnight snack about three times a week. That doesn't mean I need them!8 -
“If you were obese as a child, you will always be overweight. Your body won’t allow you to lose weight if you were overweight when you were young. It means you were born with the gentics to be overweight.”4
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BarbellCowgirl wrote: »“If you were obese as a child, you will always be overweight. Your body won’t allow you to lose weight if you were overweight when you were young. It means you were born with the gentics to be overweight.”
or the look at your parents,if they are thin you will be thin if fat you will be fat.1 -
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »BarbellCowgirl wrote: »“If you were obese as a child, you will always be overweight. Your body won’t allow you to lose weight if you were overweight when you were young. It means you were born with the gentics to be overweight.”
or the look at your parents,if they are thin you will be thin if fat you will be fat.
I love this one - my mom was obese most of her adult life and my father has always been built like a twig... where does that leave me?!?!?3 -
I went to a meeting recently where the speaker was speaking as an expert about "digestive health".
It was a hearty broth of pure nonsense, but here's just one highlight: Everyone will benefit from giving up dairy, gluten and (especially) sugar. Sugar is poison, because it spikes your insulin. But honey is a superfood, especially local honey. Fruit is good for you, because fiber. Agave syrup is OK, because it's natural, but not a superfood, partly because no fiber. Stevia is bad like sugar, just like other things that taste sweet (even if they have no nutrients/calories) because your body has been programmed to . . . I dunno, do something bad . . . just because it has a sweet taste like sugar.
I'm sitting there thinking " . . . but . . . but . . . it's all just sucrose, glucose and fructose!" (except the Stevia of course)
I am not lying, exaggerating, or misrepresenting. (My career made me very good at taking accurate notes on things I violently disagree with, because it was an essential skill.)
His incoherent steaming pile of pseudoscientific crapitude was being delivered to a group of cancer survivors . . . and the whole talk was implicitly hawking a multi-visit (or online) multi-step remediation program.
"If you have questions, be sure to fill out the question sheet with your contact info, and leave it on the table, so we can get back to you." (In response to an question requesting actual actionable specifics.)
He was coy about cost, but said his office would give you the paperwork to submit to your insurance company for insurance coverage. (Odds most US insurance with cover, I think: Near zero.)10 -
That I should stick to 1200-1400 calories a day.
I'm not saying it's a terrible approach for everyone. Sure, if you're smaller and you're sedentary, that might be what you need to do. But for me, at 170+ lbs, that's not going to work out.
Luckily I knew better for myself.9 -
I started working with a trainer who about lost her *kitten* when I told her I didn't eat breakfast. She said I HAVE to eat breakfast within an hour of waking up. I said, I am not hungry in the morning, why would I force myself to eat if I am not hungry? I have lost a LOT of weight without eating breakfast. Then she told me to stop eating dairy because it was so bad for me. I said, you feed your son dairy. She said, that's different. I knew it was not going to work out and I parted ways with her.
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I went to a meeting recently where the speaker was speaking as an expert about "digestive health".
It was a hearty broth of pure nonsense, but here's just one highlight: Everyone will benefit from giving up dairy, gluten and (especially) sugar. Sugar is poison, because it spikes your insulin. But honey is a superfood, especially local honey. Fruit is good for you, because fiber. Agave syrup is OK, because it's natural, but not a superfood, partly because no fiber. Stevia is bad like sugar, just like other things that taste sweet (even if they have no nutrients/calories) because your body has been programmed to . . . I dunno, do something bad . . . just because it has a sweet taste like sugar.
I'm sitting there thinking " . . . but . . . but . . . it's all just sucrose, glucose and fructose!" (except the Stevia of course)
I am not lying, exaggerating, or misrepresenting. (My career made me very good at taking accurate notes on things I violently disagree with, because it was an essential skill.)
His incoherent steaming pile of pseudoscientific crapitude was being delivered to a group of cancer survivors . . . and the whole talk was implicitly hawking a multi-visit (or online) multi-step remediation program.
"If you have questions, be sure to fill out the question sheet with your contact info, and leave it on the table, so we can get back to you." (In response to an question requesting actual actionable specifics.)
He was coy about cost, but said his office would give you the paperwork to submit to your insurance company for insurance coverage. (Odds most US insurance with cover, I think: Near zero.)
that is horrific.
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I spoke to the nutritionist at my crossfit gym and she told me I would almost certainly never weigh less than I did in high school. I'm 5'5" and in high school I was about 165, so that is still overweight. I was super bummed to hear that.
Luckily I've since done some research, and I had the audacity to set my goal weight to 150. Who even knows if I can attain such a crazy low weight, haha.7 -
anderska1011 wrote: »I spoke to the nutritionist at my crossfit gym and she told me I would almost certainly never weigh less than I did in high school. I'm 5'5" and in high school I was about 165, so that is still overweight. I was super bummed to hear that.
Luckily I've since done some research, and I had the audacity to set my goal weight to 150. Who even knows if I can attain such a crazy low weight, haha.
She is full is crap! Don’t listen to her, seriously. I’m 58 and I am proof that one can weigh less than in high school! Do eet!5 -
anderska1011 wrote: »I spoke to the nutritionist at my crossfit gym and she told me I would almost certainly never weigh less than I did in high school. I'm 5'5" and in high school I was about 165, so that is still overweight. I was super bummed to hear that.
Luckily I've since done some research, and I had the audacity to set my goal weight to 150. Who even knows if I can attain such a crazy low weight, haha.
A nutritionist at a Crossfit gym?
*shudders*
Do they just scream "PALEO!!! PAAYYY-LEEEE-OHHHHH!!!!!" at everybody? 22
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