September 2018 Running Challenge
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PastorVincent wrote: »travelling_lots wrote: »@PastorVincent thanks!
I had no idea. I only knew of walking, jogging, intervals and running.
I guess I'm combination at the same time slow and steady but intervals 10 jog,1 min walk till I'm done.
After high school never ran to compete just to enjoy and finish the cardio.
But Wow!
I was having a hard time figuring out the conversations. But I thought different names for things since we live in different areas. Would have never thought there were all these to be done.
It all stems from different goals. If your goal is to win races, then you will do the speed workouts (intervals, fartlek, tempo, etc). If you never want to run more than a 5k, you probably will never do the "long runs" that the marathon runners do. And so on.
Also, people move around. So they might be training for an ultra marathon in the fall, but then take it easy for the winter and then focus on a half marathon in the spring. Or whatever.
So, like I said, this "simple" sport has lots of options. Feel free to ask questions about the different things, there are some very smart and nice people in this thread that will be happy to help you out.
Or you could be like me... I've nearly completely given up on being fast. I'll probably never qualify for Boston. But I am building distance and I know I can slowly go a lot of miles. I'm hoping to [slowly] move towards ultras next year or maybe 2020. Technically my first ultra is Nov., but it is the world's shortest ultra (the Route 66 Marathon in Tulsa with the Center of the Universe Detour makes it 26.5 miles).12 -
September goal: 50 miles
9/4 5
9/5 2.6
Month to date: 7.6 / 507 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »travelling_lots wrote: »@PastorVincent thanks!
I had no idea. I only knew of walking, jogging, intervals and running.
I guess I'm combination at the same time slow and steady but intervals 10 jog,1 min walk till I'm done.
After high school never ran to compete just to enjoy and finish the cardio.
But Wow!
I was having a hard time figuring out the conversations. But I thought different names for things since we live in different areas. Would have never thought there were all these to be done.
It all stems from different goals. If your goal is to win races, then you will do the speed workouts (intervals, fartlek, tempo, etc). If you never want to run more than a 5k, you probably will never do the "long runs" that the marathon runners do. And so on.
Also, people move around. So they might be training for an ultra marathon in the fall, but then take it easy for the winter and then focus on a half marathon in the spring. Or whatever.
So, like I said, this "simple" sport has lots of options. Feel free to ask questions about the different things, there are some very smart and nice people in this thread that will be happy to help you out.
Or you could be like me... I've nearly completely given up on being fast. I'll probably never qualify for Boston. But I am building distance and I know I can slowly go a lot of miles. I'm hoping to [slowly] move towards ultras next year or maybe 2020. Technically my first ultra is Nov., but it is the world's shortest ultra (the Route 66 Marathon in Tulsa with the Center of the Universe Detour makes it 26.5 miles).
Or like me where I know I'll never be competitively fast, but need to improve my speed enough (while building mileage as well) so that I can do the races I want without brushing up against cutoffs.
I've literally got a coach who is working to get me capable of running a marathon with a 2:55 halfway cutoff and a 7:00 total time cutoff in the next 11 months.13 -
Well, spring has sprung here. The plethora of pink magnolia petals underfoot are pretty, if treacherous (slimy is the most appropriate description), the scent of freesias and jasmine is heady, and the drizzle is incessant. All in all, a nice day for a longish run.
I was feeling super tired yesterday so mixed things up by running fartleks with a friend. She's speedier than me on the sprints but my endurance left her for dead #winsome #losesome. Today was my mid-week longish (used to be 10k, now closer to 12k as my half approaches). Another day of feeling sluggish so I delayed by cleaning the house (!) then finally headed out just before lunch. My calves were a little tight from yesterday's sprints, but otherwise the body had more energy than the mind and I ran faster than expected.
Running challenge
1 Sept: yoga
2 Sept: 9.22
3 Sept: yoga
4 Sept: 7.02km
5 Sept: yoga, then 4.76km with Fartleks *snigger*
6 Sept: 11.73km
32.73 of 160km for September.
Upcoming events
9 September, Xterra Trail Run, 13.2km
29 October, Auckland Half
17 November, Xterra Trail Challenge Waihi 20.5km13 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »I found out this afternoon that our trip this weekend has to be postponed because the grandpa-in-law is in the hospital (he'll be okay and is still terrible). So that means that my amazing two-laps-around-the-shopping-mall 10K consolation prize is out. And here I was kind of looking forward to it. But because I live in a major metro area, there are plenty alternatives this weekend and I need help picking!
First: The Marathons of Hope 5/10K. Positives: Same distance I'd planned for this week. Supports a good cause. Reasonably inexpensive. Negatives: Can't tell if it's timed or has happened before, will include bikes and dogs and probably small children, maybe not as well supported as it could be? Also 5/10K is not a marathon. Or multiple marathons.
Second: City of Lakes Half Marathon. Positives: Big deal real deal has been happening for decades well organized. According to the results of "can I run a half marathon" on google, I'll probably not die or injure myself if I'm not stupid (longest run is currently 9 miles) and should be okay for the 3:30 cut-off. Shiny medal! Negatives: Twice as expensive, more than twice as far as I'd planned on running this weekend.
Course doesn't matter as they are both running around the same trail system (which I have run around several times). The half just runs a figure-8 around Lake 1 and Lake 2 twice, while I assume the 10K is twice-ish around Lake 1, but I can only assume because the course isn't online. Lake 2 might also be involved, who knows. Either way, I've run the entire course at least twice and Lake 1 several times.
The half sounds fun if you're up for it!
Your description of your grandpa-in-law made me laugh because it reminded me of my next door neighbors, a frail elderly lady who lives with her grown son. He was washing the car in his driveway the other day when I came home and we got to talking. I asked how his mother was, and he said, "Oh, evil as usual!" Which is all too true - yard workers, neighborhood children, and delivery men live in fear of mistakenly setting foot in her yard. But it was a little shocking to hear from her own son. Anyway, glad your terrible grandpa-in-law isn't seriously ill.5 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »travelling_lots wrote: »@PastorVincent thanks!
I had no idea. I only knew of walking, jogging, intervals and running.
I guess I'm combination at the same time slow and steady but intervals 10 jog,1 min walk till I'm done.
After high school never ran to compete just to enjoy and finish the cardio.
But Wow!
I was having a hard time figuring out the conversations. But I thought different names for things since we live in different areas. Would have never thought there were all these to be done.
It all stems from different goals. If your goal is to win races, then you will do the speed workouts (intervals, fartlek, tempo, etc). If you never want to run more than a 5k, you probably will never do the "long runs" that the marathon runners do. And so on.
Also, people move around. So they might be training for an ultra marathon in the fall, but then take it easy for the winter and then focus on a half marathon in the spring. Or whatever.
So, like I said, this "simple" sport has lots of options. Feel free to ask questions about the different things, there are some very smart and nice people in this thread that will be happy to help you out.
Or you could be like me... I've nearly completely given up on being fast. I'll probably never qualify for Boston. But I am building distance and I know I can slowly go a lot of miles. I'm hoping to [slowly] move towards ultras next year or maybe 2020. Technically my first ultra is Nov., but it is the world's shortest ultra (the Route 66 Marathon in Tulsa with the Center of the Universe Detour makes it 26.5 miles).
Very nice!
I think I may be more like you slow building distance while doing 10/1s Till I’m done. Think if finding a nice race next-year not to hilly or complicated go just do it and say ok I did it!1 -
I love spring weather (not). Rain has set in this evening and looks to continue tomorrow. I'm actually looking forward to finally having a run in the rain after all my complaining and anticipation. I can see it now, I manage to avoid rain the whole next 10 weeks and it pours down on event day...2
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I love spring weather (not). Rain has set in this evening and looks to continue tomorrow. I'm actually looking forward to finally having a run in the rain after all my complaining and anticipation. I can see it now, I manage to avoid rain the whole next 10 weeks and it pours down on event day...
Ha. Or it will be like the first time I ran Kerikeri - Grey, threatening, and unbelievably hot and humid. Nobody PB'd (which is almost guaranteed on this event) and I've never seen so many people lying on the side of the road getting medical attention - even more alarming considering how small the field is. The conditions caught everyone unawares.
I'm sure you'll get your chance to run in the rain... it is named Aotearoa after all ('Land of the Long White Cloud' for you non-Kiwis).4 -
MegaMooseEsq wrote: »I found out this afternoon that our trip this weekend has to be postponed because the grandpa-in-law is in the hospital (he'll be okay and is still terrible). So that means that my amazing two-laps-around-the-shopping-mall 10K consolation prize is out. And here I was kind of looking forward to it. But because I live in a major metro area, there are plenty alternatives this weekend and I need help picking!
First: The Marathons of Hope 5/10K. Positives: Same distance I'd planned for this week. Supports a good cause. Reasonably inexpensive. Negatives: Can't tell if it's timed or has happened before, will include bikes and dogs and probably small children, maybe not as well supported as it could be? Also 5/10K is not a marathon. Or multiple marathons.
Second: City of Lakes Half Marathon. Positives: Big deal real deal has been happening for decades well organized. According to the results of "can I run a half marathon" on google, I'll probably not die or injure myself if I'm not stupid (longest run is currently 9 miles) and should be okay for the 3:30 cut-off. Shiny medal! Negatives: Twice as expensive, more than twice as far as I'd planned on running this weekend.
Course doesn't matter as they are both running around the same trail system (which I have run around several times). The half just runs a figure-8 around Lake 1 and Lake 2 twice, while I assume the 10K is twice-ish around Lake 1, but I can only assume because the course isn't online. Lake 2 might also be involved, who knows. Either way, I've run the entire course at least twice and Lake 1 several times.
Wait... these are this weekend? ERF.
So the frist race by your description will probably be a mess but distance wise you are more likely to be ready for a 10k right now. The HM sounds like a way better race, and you can probably do it. Honestly, as long as you are okay with walking parts of it, and finishing near the back of the pack, I would say push into the HM because the other race really sounds like it will be a mess. As long as you are realistic about your expected performance and careful not to hurt your self, the worst that can happen is you finish after the cut-off and have a time to beat next year.
It is what i would do in your position at least But no one ever accuses me of being sane.5 -
It was a humid suckfest of environment, but with an average pace of 8:34 per mile I didn't particularly feel it in the heart rate.
A slow run on mostly soft trails is exactly what I needed today after running a half on Sunday and doing some watered down speed work in the humidity yesterday.
8:34 is a "slow run?" I'd be so estatic if I even got close to that! Humidity is the worst to run in. Glad you made yourself get out there and get it done!
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quilteryoyo wrote: »It was a humid suckfest of environment, but with an average pace of 8:34 per mile I didn't particularly feel it in the heart rate.
A slow run on mostly soft trails is exactly what I needed today after running a half on Sunday and doing some watered down speed work in the humidity yesterday.
8:34 is a "slow run?" I'd be so estatic if I even got close to that! Humidity is the worst to run in. Glad you made yourself get out there and get it done!
Profile of a slow run. I paused the watch for a stoplight, but not for the water fountain.
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09/02 - 8.5 hot humid miles
09/03 - 10 miles
09/04 - Back to the car shop - yay
09/05 - 8.5 humid miles
09/06 - 8 humid miles
Pretty much a cut/paste run from yesterday. Would have like to do 10-15, but will be in training all day at work so had to run before work and only had time to get 8 in. Was very humid of course VERY - but supposedly a break in the weather is coming.
Upcoming Races:
Steel Challange 5k - May 2019
Pittsburgh Marathon - May 2019
Glacier Ridge 50k Trail Race - May 2019
--More as I find them - need to find a nice trail race
2021 - Disney World Dopey! (if can raise funds)5 -
@sarahthes - I just have to say that I LOVE your attitude. I could not have said this better myself - "Or like me where I know I'll never be competitively fast, but need to improve my speed enough (while building mileage as well) so that I can do the races I want without brushing up against cutoffs.I've literally got a coach who is working to get me capable of running a marathon with a 2:55 halfway cutoff and a 7:00 total time cutoff in the next 11 months."
I did a half last March with a 3 hr cut-off and I had to really train hard to make that happen. I ran it in 3:10 and somehow beat the sweep vehicle. And while it doesn't particularly bother me, it would be nice to get to the finish line party and still have some party left!
Raining this morning so did a quick 2 miles on the treadmill. I dread the dreadmill and yet, it forces me to keep up my pace. When I run outside I tend to "oh look at the pretty butterfly" or I let the dog stop and sniff every critter that has ever crossed the road.....so at least the dreadmill forces me to keep moving.
June goal - 44/44
July goal - 52/52
August goal - 55/57 miles
Sept goal - 14/60 miles
Sept. 30 - Wineglass Half Marathon; Corning, NY
October 7 - Viking Dash Half Marathon; Toledo, OH8 -
Monthly group question?
What did you wanna be when you grew up?
And do you have a group question?
Earliest wanna be was an archeologist. Someone probably made a comment about me digging all the time as a kid. And i was in.
Then about 10, i wanted to be a concert violinist. (Not in the cards...)
Then 14-15 i wanted to be a neurosurgeon.... (Too much Ben Casey).
By time i managed to get to college, age 27 and three kids, unsupportive spouse, I realized med school wasn't an option so i went the chemistry route, just in case that option ever became viable. Or even a geology one.
I do remember watching the Hawaii Ironman in '84 (I'd been 14) and thinking thatd be awesome to do, had no idea it could be a professional choice. Which wasnt in the cards either.. so. Meh.
If i could do it all over again? Different parents where i got to keep the violin and other stuff. Haha! Nah, I'd done better and found a way to do med school. Maybe even have done military service to get there. But, hey.. kitten happens and here we are. No regrets right.4 -
biketheworld wrote: »@sarahthes - I just have to say that I LOVE your attitude. I could not have said this better myself - "Or like me where I know I'll never be competitively fast, but need to improve my speed enough (while building mileage as well) so that I can do the races I want without brushing up against cutoffs.I've literally got a coach who is working to get me capable of running a marathon with a 2:55 halfway cutoff and a 7:00 total time cutoff in the next 11 months."
I did a half last March with a 3 hr cut-off and I had to really train hard to make that happen. I ran it in 3:10 and somehow beat the sweep vehicle. And while it doesn't particularly bother me, it would be nice to get to the finish line party and still have some party left!
This is why I choose trail races with generous cut-offs.
HM - just over 3hrs. Marathon - 7 and a half. Cut-off was supposed to be 7hrs 45 minutes, but more like 8 hours or so when the sweeper came in
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Monthly group question?
What did you wanna be when you grew up?
palaeontologist. Those dinosaurs were MINE!!
Then a zoo vet, which I was discouraged to do because of the long hours
Barrister - realised I'd struggle to get pupillage as didn't go to the 'right' school (private) or know the right people
Film Director - my cousin and I made a film once. She now works as a TV producer so at least one of us has the glory
Funeral Director - I still hanker over this
Book Restorer - realised my hands weren't steady enough and dark underground labs (I have no idea if that's where book restorers work) weren't my thing.
I work in sculpture restoration and conservation, so am pretty happy where I am.
Things I'd like to have done different growing up - gone to a co-ed secondary/high school rather than a girl's school. Learnt an instrument (must find another trumpet tutor). Had a superpower.
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9/1-4.05mi
9/2-10mi
9/3-(5ishmi walking at renfair)
9/4-nope
9/5-5.69mi
i was supposed to do hills but i worked more at tempo(or what i thought was)
the rain had been rough with visibility but it let up around 8pm but the park i run the hills at is closed at dusk.
when i got home, i saw i was actually a min slower than i thought. which has been typical. it was a nice 70f. low humidity. i've seemed to have lost some of my speed for no reason.
also my vivosmart hr is not holding a charge. i'm vascillating between the vivosport and active. i wear them all day. i'm not sure if any of the forerunners fits my needs. i like the wrist hr, gps, smart notifications
group question: i wanted to be a forest ranger...found out i'm allergic to pine trees. plan on going and getting my masters in clinical counseling eventually getting certs with criminal psychology and addiction
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September Goal: 70 Miles
9/1: 6 miles
9/2: Rest
9/3: 4 Miles
9/4: 3 Miles
9:5: 3 Miles
9/6: 3 Miles
Miles Completed: 19 of 70
Upcoming Races:
Santa Monica Classic | 5K | September 9th, 2018
Los Angeles Marathon | March 24th 2019
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Hello,
I'm also in again. Currently, I'm not overly happy with my progress, due to several factors. First of all, the instant gratification of the first few weeks is gone and I found "my" pace and comfort zone (well, "comfort" is a strong word here, since I'm still not very fond of running in general but despite that very insignificant fact, this is where I run most of the time. Following my last post in August, I tried to slow down and finally managed to find a tempo with a lower heart rate. Thank you @MobyCarp, @shanaber, and @garygse for your input in the last thread. I still have so much to learn and test.
Today, I read, that the "normal" training pace should be at least 90 seconds slower than the race tempo per Km. It that something you agree on? If I look at my stats at RunKeeper, my fastest Km is 6:55 (very rare! usually, fast is somewhere around 7:20) and my pace overall is more around 7:45per Km, if I don't break for walks. Their solution is that the training must be slowed down even more. When I tried to slow down for the heart rate thingie, I was talking last time, I had a pace of 8:05, which is still only like 45s slower than the fast or 70s for the super fast time.
You read so much on the internet and never know whether it's correct or complete BS. So I try to just finish somehow without overdoing it.
Tomorrow will be my last training before the 5K and I'm both excited and wearily. I'm going to make it and let's see how much the changed situation with a new route, some food (I usually go in the mornings w/o any food intake), an unfamiliar time and lots of people will change my performance. But I'm at the lowest point energy-wise in my cycle and really struggle with 5k. We'll see. I'll let you know on Sunday
Ok, on to my goals this month. I'd love to set it higher but don't see that I'm going to make it. It's a lot of "I should" and "it would be good" but reality still looks not that promising.
Goal September: 50-60Km / Achieved so far: 14,6Km
1. 5 Km (lots of walking though)
2. 5,4 Km
4. 4,2 Km10 -
Group question...
When I was quite young I wanted to be a writer but that got sidetracked when I got a bit older and my grandmother died of cancer - then I wanted to be a doctor. That stuck with me for several years until I finished my second year of university. At which point I realized I really enjoyed my undergraduate program (chemistry) and stuck with it.
If I could do things over I would be a vulcanologist.6
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