October 2018 Monthly Running Challenge
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10/1 3.22
10/2 5.17
10/3 2.43
10/4 lower body/core circuit
10/5 3.4
10/6 9.4 Hilly miles, got turned around a bit, but figured out course for HM at end of the month
10/7 rest day
10/8 3.51 Ran about 1.4 warmup, the 8 sets of extremely short hills(sprint up, walk down on wet grass) then a little over a mile back to start. Spoke with trainer today who is a local runner about hills for hill repeats and got a few good locations and 1 she swore she would never run again(may have to check that one out as well). She does triathlons, so when she says she won't do a certain _______(hill, route, etc....) I am always curious as to why. Usually end up with my *kitten* handed to me, and much humbler from the experiences.
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@biketheworld and @BruinsGal_91 sorry but your stories made me laugh, some guys can be such *kitten*! Well done on kicking their backsides, they deserved nothing less.7
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@biketheworld That is impressive skill/luck you have avoiding rain. I have run quite a few races (including two halfs) and had rain in all but a couple. I wish you could transfer me some of whatever that is!
So glad you beat that poor sport in the end. I suppose the fact he bet a half would be easy without training was a clue to his character though lol.
@mbaker566 Awesome run! And such a cute new puppy.
@AprilRN10 Congratulations on your new PR!
Good luck in your race today @BruinsGal_91 May the humidity stay low!3 -
@workaholic_nurse Good for you! I need to figure something out for hills. I always feel them in the races because it is so flat where I live.2
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@Orphia You have run in some wonderful costumes. I seem to remember you as superwoman too! You did look on the boney side in this one 5
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eleanorhawkins wrote: »@biketheworld and @BruinsGal_91 sorry but your stories made me laugh, some guys can be such *kitten*! Well done on kicking their backsides, they deserved nothing less.
UGH, MEN!
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@Orphia I love your costume! I have a Halloween birthday, so I love costume races. You're beautifully healthy so *kitten* anyone who says otherwise.
@biketheworld @BruinsGal_91 What a bunch of tools.
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I have a question for the group, particularly anyone who runs similar or higher miles than me (i.e. about 40-50 miles/week):
For the 2nd year in a row, my ALT/AST results have been very high. I asked my dr. and he wanted to do a re-test this year, which was done a month later with a different lab and they were even worse! I don't drink alcohol, but did when I was younger. I've had maybe a dozen drinks in the last few years.
After the 2nd test came back even higher, he just brushed it off as just high because I run so much. Does anyone else who runs that many miles see high ALT/AST results? If not, I need to be concerned.3 -
Haven't been well, haven't kept my diary or my reading. Hopefully better soon.
Still wanted to wish all my Canadian friends. A Happy Thanksgiving.
And to everyone else a Great Week!8 -
@AlphaHowls Ouch! I hope that everything heals quickly!1
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midwesterner85 wrote: »I have a question for the group, particularly anyone who runs similar or higher miles than me (i.e. about 40-50 miles/week):
For the 2nd year in a row, my ALT/AST results have been very high. I asked my dr. and he wanted to do a re-test this year, which was done a month later with a different lab and they were even worse! I don't drink alcohol, but did when I was younger. I've had maybe a dozen drinks in the last few years.
After the 2nd test came back even higher, he just brushed it off as just high because I run so much. Does anyone else who runs that many miles see high ALT/AST results? If not, I need to be concerned.
a google search seems to agree with the dr.
someone even asked runners world3 -
28 pages in, but for me, I'm askew. (Yes, I know, it has been said on many occasion!) For me, I'm still on the "30 mile bike ride" mind set until Saturday the 13th, then I fully change focus, yet I'm kind of overlapping, as I'm beginning today my 15K training!
I've started several occasions to 10K train, and I've had issues every blasted time! So, I figure it's not the distance for me, and I've wanted to do the Hot Chocolate 15K for a few years, so might as well finish out Florida in style. (Then, depending on how well I do with this, maybe do my last Gasparilla with a possible HM? But, one race at a time...) As I start my vacation on the 31st, and the bulk of the longer runs are scheduled when I'm off work in Nov, I feel better with that than trying to go for a 5 or 6 mile run on a 12 hour work day. Only thing will be trying to run in much colder weather than I'm used to! (vacationing in WI!)
So, for October, based on the training & my work schedules, I'm going to do a conservative 20 miles.
Oct 13 - Think Pink Breast Cancer Bike Ride (30 miles)
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midwesterner85 wrote: »I have a question for the group, particularly anyone who runs similar or higher miles than me (i.e. about 40-50 miles/week):
For the 2nd year in a row, my ALT/AST results have been very high. I asked my dr. and he wanted to do a re-test this year, which was done a month later with a different lab and they were even worse! I don't drink alcohol, but did when I was younger. I've had maybe a dozen drinks in the last few years.
After the 2nd test came back even higher, he just brushed it off as just high because I run so much. Does anyone else who runs that many miles see high ALT/AST results? If not, I need to be concerned.
a google search seems to agree with the dr.
someone even asked runners world
Yes, I found that it could be a cause of elevated results... but this is really high.
ETA: Did they really suggest not running for A WEEK?! I can't do that, so I guess I'll never get a good test result, then.
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PastorVincent wrote: »No run today... too many meetings. Next week will be very touch and go, probably lose track of this thread too. So *hugs* in advance for people that need them, "WOOHOO"s to those that want them, and, remember to not compare yourself to anyone else! We all are on our own journey and are at wildly different places.
Also... YOU GOT THIS!
@PastorVincent - Thanks needed this today! I have a 7 miler that I am totally unprepared for this Saturday!
10/01 -3.49 miles
10/07- 3.45 miles
10/08 -4.51 miles
Total: 11.45/50 miles
Today's run was 73 degrees at the start, 95% humidity and 71 Dew Point. Apparently it rained enough overnight for the road to be wet but not enough to wake me up from sleep. Wet road made for a slower pace. I wore new shoes today (didn't want to go back inside after going outside and seeing wet roads, so ran in them).
Upcoming races (Question marks are races not yet registered for):
Louisiana Marathon Quarter Marathon - 01/13/2018 - Done
Mardi Gras Mambo 10K - 02/17/2018 - Done
Q50 Races Sunset Gulf - 6.5 miles 3/24/2018 -DNS
Fat Boy 5K - 04/14/2018 - Cancelled due to Tornado Warning
Active for Autism 5K - 05/05/2018 - Done - Walked
AKA CANN 5K - 06/02/2018 - Done - Run/Walk
BIG EASY BIG HEART 5K 7/21/2018 - Done
Twilight Classic - 08/25/2018 - Done
Saints Kick Off Run - 09/08/2018 - Done
WHOA Racing Cane Field Classic 2018 (Machete 7 – 1 mile/4 mile/2mile) 10/13/2018-
Oktoberfest - 10/27/2018 -?
Cajun Cup OR Middendorf's Manchac Run - 11/10/2018 - ?
St Jude Memphis Marathon Weekend 10K - 12/01/2018
Bonfire Festival 5K - 12/16/2018 - ?
Louisiana Marathon Weekend - Quarter Marathon - 01/19/2019
Mardi Gras Mambo - 10K - 02/16/2019 -?
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midwesterner85 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »I have a question for the group, particularly anyone who runs similar or higher miles than me (i.e. about 40-50 miles/week):
For the 2nd year in a row, my ALT/AST results have been very high. I asked my dr. and he wanted to do a re-test this year, which was done a month later with a different lab and they were even worse! I don't drink alcohol, but did when I was younger. I've had maybe a dozen drinks in the last few years.
After the 2nd test came back even higher, he just brushed it off as just high because I run so much. Does anyone else who runs that many miles see high ALT/AST results? If not, I need to be concerned.
a google search seems to agree with the dr.
someone even asked runners world
Yes, I found that it could be a cause of elevated results... but this is really high.
ETA: Did they really suggest not running for A WEEK?! I can't do that, so I guess I'll never get a good test result, then.
I run those mileages but never heard of this test. So I am like useless to you. 0 -
Good news: no blood clot this time!
Bad news: don't know what it is and I declined further testing for the reason of being uninsured.
No clot means I am getting that thing rubbed down asap. Didn't wanna die, you know, so I waited for clearance.
Back to running tomorrow.15 -
@midwesterner85 I saw this and asked a colleague real quick. He's a physician that lifts hard core and specializes in weight loss. He said that ALT can rise moderately with running those distances, but AST rises even more because even though it is a liver test, it's in other places in the body too. He did also say that 7 days of rest would give a more accurate result. His input is only one, but I love learning and wondered what he would say!5
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W2D1 of C25K complete!
My running partners were a little more distracted this morning, which made for some interesting intervals. They both ran into someone's yard during our second run interval but refocused relatively quickly. I think I reacted quickly enough that it didn't wrench my back as has happened in the past. Time will tell.
I was also yanked to a stop once or twice while walking, because they just HAD to stop 'n sniff. At least they didn't have to pee on everything this morning.
Edit: In re-reading this I failed to mention... my running partners are dogs. lol10 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »I have a question for the group, particularly anyone who runs similar or higher miles than me (i.e. about 40-50 miles/week):
For the 2nd year in a row, my ALT/AST results have been very high. I asked my dr. and he wanted to do a re-test this year, which was done a month later with a different lab and they were even worse! I don't drink alcohol, but did when I was younger. I've had maybe a dozen drinks in the last few years.
After the 2nd test came back even higher, he just brushed it off as just high because I run so much. Does anyone else who runs that many miles see high ALT/AST results? If not, I need to be concerned.
Have a hida scan to rule out gallbladder. I wouldn't dismiss it. The liver is unhappy. I'd pursue other tests.
Good luck!
ETA... *Hangs head in disappointment over current physician's lack of concern*
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Last night I wrote a long post about volunteering at the TCM gear check yesterday and lost it, which I took as a sign that I needed more sleep. And definitely did not want to run today. Considering I woke up with a deep soreness in my right shoulder blade that was the right call - I’ve got an appointment to see the chiropractor later this afternoon and am just happy my legs feel mostly fine.
Long story hopefully shorter than my lost post, I volunteered to unload, organize, and distribute gear check bags at the finish line of the Twin Cities Marathon and 10-Mile races yesterday, and it was a lot of fun. There were maybe 50 volunteers, about a third from a local high school and most of the rest from UPS, who were the official gear check sponsors.
I showed up at 6:45 and was the first volunteer there - the trucks for the 10-miler showed up about 20 minutes later, which was about 15 minutes earlier than expected and so it was a little bonkers for the first couple of hours as we unloaded about a dozen trucks, set out bags in line by race number, and started handing them out when the finishers started showing up around 8. It was cold and damp, around 45 degrees and close to but not quite raining, but I was running around way too much to notice.
When we finally got a breather around 9 I was a little concerned about the marathon, but hadn’t realized that the 10-milers was the much larger race - about 11K finishers vs 7K for the marathon, and of course the marathon finishers were much more spread out. On the other hand, I ended up having a much harder time keeping warm, but at least I'd thought to layer.
There was a bit of a snafu when the second round of trucks showed up where the section I was helping unload was running into the one next to us and no one really seemed to know what to do except me and one high school student no one was listening to, so I started shouting directions, won over a half-dozen of the UPS workers, and got stuff done. So I had a “team” for the rest of the afternoon, which was kind of fun. A couple of the older dudes were a little grumpy at me, but the race staff seemed pretty thrilled that someone had taken charge.
I’m not necessarily someone who enjoys leading (I’m too thin-skinned), but I do enjoy doing things efficiently and hate seeing people flail around when I know what needs to get done. I’ve never really understood how so few people are willing to step forward without instructions or permission. On the other hand, most people are perfectly happy to work if someone tells them what to do, and I guess I can project a pretty good illusion of confidence when I want to. The race organizers running the gear check (who were spread way too thin to be coordinating everything) said that the UPS volunteers can be bad about taking direction but I found they were perfectly quick to catch on and follow my lead, so I suspect they just don’t put up with waffling.
I think that next year I’ll register for the 10K and enter the lottery for the 10-Miler, but will volunteer again either way. I enjoyed being able to interact with the runners in a limited capacity but also liked that I could be useful keeping everything organized when I was people’d out - I noticed that no one was keeping the rows organized or moving things forward as the bags thinned out, so I took that on as my job for most of the middle of the marathon. 98% of the runners were really nice - my favorite interaction was with a marathoner around my age who seemed more excited about the fact that she’d completed her New Year’s resolution than the fact that she’d just run a freaking marathon. I loved that.
Anyhow, it was a lot of fun but I’m exhausted and it’s not looking to get any better any soon. I’ve decided to skip the 10-miler I’d planned to enter on the first weekend of November because WE’RE BUYING A HOUSE! WHAT?! Well, we’re one step closer at least: we made an offer on Friday and found out yesterday morning that the sellers (who are either on vacation or living in Prague, but either way haven't lived in the house in 2-3 years) accepted it without counter. We’ve still got inspections and financing to finalize so there’s plenty that can happen, but we’re one step closer and the ball is in our court.
@biketheworld: What a jerk! Not cool at all.
OCTOBER MILES:
10/1 Mo - rest
10/2 Tu - 1:11:20 - 6.54 meandering and cold
10/3 We - 0:20:06 - 1.94 zippy after lifting
10/4 Th - 0:45:37 - 4.33 medium effort
10/5 Fr - rest
10/6 Sa - Twin Cities Marathon Weekend 10K - Chip time: 1:05:14
10/7 Su - “rest” volunteered at TCM gear check
10/8 Mo - rest
October Total: 19.15/85 miles
Lakes circumnavigated (lifetime): 7
Races!
July 4: Red, White and Boom! 5K Chip time: 0:32:20
August 25: Glo Run Night Race 5K Chip time: 0:30:40
September 8: Helen Gold 10K DNS - trip postponed
September 9: City of Lakes Half Marathon Net time: 2:28:25
October 6: Twin Cities Marathon Weekend 10K Chip time: 1:05:14
October 21: Mankato Half Marathon
November 24: Mustache Run 10K
December 8: Reindeer Run 10K or 15K (leaning 15K)
January 5: Polar Dash 10K
January 26: Securian/Winter Carnival 10K13 -
@midwesterner85 I saw this and asked a colleague real quick. He's a physician that lifts hard core and specializes in weight loss. He said that ALT can rise moderately with running those distances, but AST rises even more because even though it is a liver test, it's in other places in the body too. He did also say that 7 days of rest would give a more accurate result. His input is only one, but I love learning and wondered what he would say!
@AprilRN10 Thank you for asking, but my ALT is much higher than AST. Both are higher than they should be, though.0 -
@midwesterner85 You're welcome. I asked because 1) you asked and 2) I didn't know the answer. I don't give medical advice because of legal risk, but I should know the answer. If I don't know it, I want to know it. I agree with Elise that it shouldn't be dismissed. I do know that elevated enzymes don't always indicate a problem. Sometimes they are chronic and benign, but I feel that everything should be ruled out before that's decided.3
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I ran the Reebok Women's 10k in Boston this morning which is a race I've run six times previously. This is Reebok's first time as the sponsor and they are already mired in controversy. The second turnaround was in the wrong place which meant the race (USATF sanctioned no less) was 0.2 miles short. That must be such a kick in the teeth to anyone who thought they'd run a PR. For once I'm glad I was about 20 seconds slower than my best 10k time.
My garmin data from 2017
My garmin data from today
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midwesterner85 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »I have a question for the group, particularly anyone who runs similar or higher miles than me (i.e. about 40-50 miles/week):
For the 2nd year in a row, my ALT/AST results have been very high. I asked my dr. and he wanted to do a re-test this year, which was done a month later with a different lab and they were even worse! I don't drink alcohol, but did when I was younger. I've had maybe a dozen drinks in the last few years.
After the 2nd test came back even higher, he just brushed it off as just high because I run so much. Does anyone else who runs that many miles see high ALT/AST results? If not, I need to be concerned.
a google search seems to agree with the dr.
someone even asked runners world
Yes, I found that it could be a cause of elevated results... but this is really high.
ETA: Did they really suggest not running for A WEEK?! I can't do that, so I guess I'll never get a good test result, then.
Aside from the running it's pretty common for diabetics to have weird livers. Mine gets irritated for no readily-identifiable reason sometimes. That might be part of what the doctor is factoring into his opinion.3 -
since i didn't add the ticker on my last couple of posts
so here is a picture of the new foster. wasn't supposed to have one this month but there were extra dogs
What big sweet eyes! Did you hear anything back on the bunny? We used to foster orphan bunnies, and they will break your heart... they are so fragile and easily stressed. Hoping for the best!0 -
@MobyCarp
Thanks for your insight. Times, I think, are directly related to the price one chooses to pay.
@AprilRN10
Congratulations on your PB!!!4 -
@biketheworld -- I thought you disappeared! Haha! Congrats on a couple of great races and glad your PF didn't come into play and your stayed injury free on the tricky grass course!3
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@rheddmobile i don't think it made it. he wasn't quite a bunny, not full grown. but they don't have him on their list of patients
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@midwesterner85 I run a fair few miles weekly (60-80), and last month had blood work done for my annual biological inspection sticker. Everything was normal (ALT=32, AST=27), so while running may cause elevated results, I have no idea how many runners it affects, nor to what extent. I would certainly get a second opinion though, rather than having it dismissed as "oh, it's just running".
Another warm morning at 75F with a dew point of 71F. That made for yet another sweaty run, this time consisting of 3 miles to warm up, 9 miles at tempo pace, and then a final 3 miles to cool back down again. Overall if felt like a good solid effort, and I'm happy with the definite improvements I'm seeing on some of the harder runs.
01 - 15.63
02 - 14.43
03 - 10.21
04 - 12.19
05 - 22.04
08 - 15.63
Total: 90.13 / 250 miles10 -
Sigh. Back from the ortho. X-rays show likely stress fracture; MRI ordered to confirm severity. Crutches and "toe tap weight" only on the left side until full treatment plan figured out. Unlikely that the MRI will rule out stress fracture, but he said not to drop the race just yet. Slightly hopeful, but I got the, "Please come here so I can show you the very concerning x-ray" talk so mostly just feeling sad.17
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