Internet Woo
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This woman is disgusting, worse than the fact that she took heaps of money from people is that people believed her BS and stopped medically prescribed treatment and started eating her recommended diet.
I read the article. What I find most disturbing is that the fines she had to pay were because of how she handled the money she received, not because she was lying *kitten*.6 -
debrakgoogins wrote: »This woman is disgusting, worse than the fact that she took heaps of money from people is that people believed her BS and stopped medically prescribed treatment and started eating her recommended diet.
I read the article. What I find most disturbing is that the fines she had to pay were because of how she handled the money she received, not because she was lying *kitten*.
I would be interested in seeing how she worded her claims. Legally, "misleading" is a minor offense as opposed to dispensing medical advice without a license, and the article doesn't go into the wording of her claims. If she told people outright that following her advice would cure their cancer, that would be dispensing medical advice, however if she documented her own "cure", posted her diet and supplements and sold her book as a documentary of her own journey, that would fall under "misleading" and might be harder to prosecute as criminal. My opinion anyway.2 -
debrakgoogins wrote: »melissajkxoxo wrote: »Have a friend who will fight with me that alcohol has zero calories ...
Can you get the name of that particular brand of alcohol for me? I am asking for a friend...
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8 Bad habits that kill your metabolism
On mfp blog24 -
Runaroundafieldx2 wrote: »8 Bad habits that kill your metabolism
On mfp blog
Oh, MFP blog is the worst, along with the type of advertising a site like this attracts. It's a shame that they run everything indiscriminately in the feed on the home page without making it more obvious that this garbage is paid advertising rather than recommendations from MFP itself, which is actually mostly limited to calorie and macro information.12 -
Speaking as a cancer survivor, my handy rule of thumb is this: Nothing cures cancer, at least not most types of it.
I have had . . . hmmm . . . 5 or 6 oncologists by now, and heard numerous others speak at events. "Cure" is not a word oncologists generally use (maybe in contexts like "hope one day we may have a cure").
"Remission" "removed tumors" "no evidence of disease (NED)" "risk returned to general population level" . . . sure. "Cure"? Not so much.
So, anyone says something "cures" cancer, I figure they're not an oncologist, and ignore 'em.
I don't really think of them as medical, but the stupidest thing I've ever heard a pseudo-medical person (chiropractor) say was something along the lines that we'd all be better off if we gave up all dairy, sugar, and gluten . . . and artificial sweeteners are just as bad as sugar because they trick our body (into releasing insulin or something, I forget); but honey is OK, because it's a superfood; and agave isn't a superfood, but it's OK because it at least is a whole food. There was more, equally dumb.
And you know who he told this bull-whatsis to? A breast cancer support group. SMH.
Speaking a fellow survivor. Along this line - nothing "causes" cancer, at least most types...other than living a long life.
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Hypothyroid causes obesity.
Not stopping a multitude of scam artists and charlatans will exploit victims with "The Thyroid Diet" and other such nonsense...several with letters behind their name.10 -
Thank goodness I haven't seen any crazy keto folks in the groups I'm in.
I do see the conspiracy theorists sometimes though. About Big Pharma this and evil money sucking demons that. But those folks are in every group.7 -
I just had a conversation with a coworker that went something like this:
Me: I am going to order from the Sandwich Shack. Are you interested?
Her: No, I am doing my weekly toxin cleanse today.
Me: Your what?
Her: Toxin cleanse - to flush out all of the toxins attached to my organs. It's the only thing that helps me lose weight.
Me: You know that your liver and kidneys flush out toxins and if they don't you have serious medical issues, right?
Her: I'm talking about the toxins that are attached to the organs, not the ones in my organs.
Me: Ooookaaaay. Well, good luck with that.
By the way, my shredded chicken, bacon and avocado salad from the Sandwich Shack was delish.38 -
Clickbait authors are getting sneakier. I saw an article in my newsfeed yesterday that was titled "Your Liver is the Only Detox Tool You Need!" I was highly suspicious so I opened the article - yup, subtitle "Here's how to help your liver stay healthy!" Followed by the usual woo.15
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I am really happy to see that my ACV drinking friend appears to have stopped. I told her maybe she should do a step challenge with her sister instead of a pounds lost.6
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debrakgoogins wrote: »I just had a conversation with a coworker that went something like this:
Me: I am going to order from the Sandwich Shack. Are you interested?
Her: No, I am doing my weekly toxin cleanse today.
Me: Your what?
Her: Toxin cleanse - to flush out all of the toxins attached to my organs. It's the only thing that helps me lose weight.
Me: You know that your liver and kidneys flush out toxins and if they don't you have serious medical issues, right?
Her: I'm talking about the toxins that are attached to the organs, not the ones in my organs.
Me: Ooookaaaay. Well, good luck with that.
By the way, my shredded chicken, bacon and avocado salad from the Sandwich Shack was delish.
Wait, if these are toxins attached to the organs and not in the organs, how does the cleanse drink get to them? Unless she is drinking nanobots armed with tiny knives to cut their way out and brushes to scrub away the toxins...
I have so many questions. Like how do toxins attached to organs cause the body to hold onto fat cells. I mean the fat in my *kitten* is pretty far away from organs.18 -
I signed up for the core life eatery 21 day challenge because I love the food there and you get a $250 credit to eat there for $100. However, I received the official challenge “guidelines” in my email and there is so much woo I can’t handle it! I posted a picture for your amusement. I will enjoy my credit for food and just ignore the rest thank you very much!
ETA: I do realize there is some good advice in here but the woo really made me chuckle4 -
FireOpalCO wrote: »debrakgoogins wrote: »I just had a conversation with a coworker that went something like this:
Me: I am going to order from the Sandwich Shack. Are you interested?
Her: No, I am doing my weekly toxin cleanse today.
Me: Your what?
Her: Toxin cleanse - to flush out all of the toxins attached to my organs. It's the only thing that helps me lose weight.
Me: You know that your liver and kidneys flush out toxins and if they don't you have serious medical issues, right?
Her: I'm talking about the toxins that are attached to the organs, not the ones in my organs.
Me: Ooookaaaay. Well, good luck with that.
By the way, my shredded chicken, bacon and avocado salad from the Sandwich Shack was delish.
Wait, if these are toxins attached to the organs and not in the organs, how does the cleanse drink get to them? Unless she is drinking nanobots armed with tiny knives to cut their way out and brushes to scrub away the toxins...
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Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »I signed up for the core life eatery 21 day challenge because I love the food there and you get a $250 credit to eat there for $100. However, I received the official challenge “guidelines” in my email and there is so much woo I can’t handle it! I posted a picture for your amusement. I will enjoy my credit for food and just ignore the rest thank you very much!
ETA: I do realize there is some good advice in here but the woo really made me chuckle
Three 36 hour fasts in a few days is pretty hardcore!6 -
concordancia wrote: »Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »I signed up for the core life eatery 21 day challenge because I love the food there and you get a $250 credit to eat there for $100. However, I received the official challenge “guidelines” in my email and there is so much woo I can’t handle it! I posted a picture for your amusement. I will enjoy my credit for food and just ignore the rest thank you very much!ETA: I do realize there is some good advice in here but the woo really made me chuckle
Three 36 hour fasts in a few days is pretty hardcore!
I think I just got whiplash reading all that. For every nugget of good advice, there is an even bigger steaming pile of woo!
I havent personally given crap advice from a medical professional. (unless you count the times they told me I had a cold when it was really bacterial bronchitis, or that time they wanted a chest xray to check for SARs when I really had a kidney infection). This last year my FIL was expiriencing a new severe allergy that always showed up when he was swathing his alfalfa fields. Logic would dictate it's probably alfalfa. He was given a blood allergy test, and told his severe allergy was dogs. The dogs he's lived with for years and can rub his face in with nothing worse then a sneeze. Here's the kicker. He was told he was too old to develop new allergies, and that it couldnt be the alfalfa! He hired someone to do his alfalfa hay for him, and they ultimately sold the farm. Dogs stayed. No more hives and face swelling.
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I am a member of My Peak Challenge. It's hard to explain but they provide guided workouts and offer a dietary plan. I don't follow the dietary plan because it is too restrictive and time consuming for me. A person who just joined the 2019 challenge asked if there are others who don't follow the nutritional plan. I responded that I don't but I use an app to ensure I am eating in a defecit. This was the response from another on the site:
"Debra, actually newest science knows that calories don't equal calories. Especially since we're using lots of energy with the muscles we build during our workouts, running, etc. We need to have enough intake (say calories). Energy input deficits over a longer period can suck your brain and body energy and your body gets used to less calories and still is able to transform it into fat."23 -
debrakgoogins wrote: »I am a member of My Peak Challenge. It's hard to explain but they provide guided workouts and offer a dietary plan. I don't follow the dietary plan because it is too restrictive and time consuming for me. A person who just joined the 2019 challenge asked if there are others who don't follow the nutritional plan. I responded that I don't but I use an app to ensure I am eating in a defecit. This was the response from another on the site:
"Debra, actually newest science knows that calories don't equal calories. Especially since we're using lots of energy with the muscles we build during our workouts, running, etc. We need to have enough intake (say calories). Energy input deficits over a longer period can suck your brain and body energy and your body gets used to less calories and still is able to transform it into fat."
Um, wow. The combination of woo and bad grammar is a really bad one two punch!16 -
These are all amazing. My favorite is when you see people posting the woo and then note that they have been effectively performing X, Y and Z for 5 days.12
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debrakgoogins wrote: »I am a member of My Peak Challenge. It's hard to explain but they provide guided workouts and offer a dietary plan. I don't follow the dietary plan because it is too restrictive and time consuming for me. A person who just joined the 2019 challenge asked if there are others who don't follow the nutritional plan. I responded that I don't but I use an app to ensure I am eating in a defecit. This was the response from another on the site:
"Debra, actually newest science knows that calories don't equal calories. Especially since we're using lots of energy with the muscles we build during our workouts, running, etc. We need to have enough intake (say calories). Energy input deficits over a longer period can suck your brain and body energy and your body gets used to less calories and still is able to transform it into fat."
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A friend recently said, "I guarantee you you will lose weight if you drink a glass of whole milk every morning."
I assume she got that off the internet? I will see her tonight, but I am willing to bet I have lost more than she has since she told me that!6 -
debrakgoogins wrote: »I am a member of My Peak Challenge. It's hard to explain but they provide guided workouts and offer a dietary plan. I don't follow the dietary plan because it is too restrictive and time consuming for me. A person who just joined the 2019 challenge asked if there are others who don't follow the nutritional plan. I responded that I don't but I use an app to ensure I am eating in a defecit. This was the response from another on the site:
"Debra, actually newest science knows that calories don't equal calories. Especially since we're using lots of energy with the muscles we build during our workouts, running, etc. We need to have enough intake (say calories). Energy input deficits over a longer period can suck your brain and body energy and your body gets used to less calories and still is able to transform it into fat."
Did you hear that? My head just exploded.
But, it's ok because, you know, I am in a calorie deficit and my brain energy was sucked dry anyway. And the human head weighs about 12 lbs, so guess what? I'm now twelve pounds lighter! Flawless victory!21 -
concordancia wrote: »A friend recently said, "I guarantee you you will lose weight if you drink a glass of whole milk every morning."
I can't even begin to imagine how or why this would work. In my case, they are not wrong because I hate milk. I would gag, throw up by breakfast, and then voila, calorie defecit.8 -
concordancia wrote: »A friend recently said, "I guarantee you you will lose weight if you drink a glass of whole milk every morning."
I assume she got that off the internet? I will see her tonight, but I am willing to bet I have lost more than she has since she told me that!
That was a thing when I lost weight in 2003. It didn't always have to be whole milk, sometimes it was just milk, but whole milk was said to be more filling. There was some study that milk was good for weight loss. I actually did it, after not having consumed milk since I was a teen (I was 33 at the time). What I discovered for a while was that I really liked having milk in the morning and it was kind of filling (I'd have it with a banana or some other fruit, sometimes oatmeal, after not having had breakfast for ages, or having a tendency to grab a muffin at someplace in my office building if I happened to be hungry).
I used skim milk, though, since I found whole milk tasted too thick for me.
Anyway, I stopped after a while and never drink milk now (I do often have cottage cheese or greek yogurt in the morning). But it always amuses me since at the time I was convinced it worked and was part of the reason I was never hungry when I was losing.
Now I keep seeing how dairy is supposed to be terrible for weight loss. Pretty sure it's neutral, all else equal.4 -
Speaking as a cancer survivor, my handy rule of thumb is this: Nothing cures cancer, at least not most types of it.
I have had . . . hmmm . . . 5 or 6 oncologists by now, and heard numerous others speak at events. "Cure" is not a word oncologists generally use (maybe in contexts like "hope one day we may have a cure").
"Remission" "removed tumors" "no evidence of disease (NED)" "risk returned to general population level" . . . sure. "Cure"? Not so much.
So, anyone says something "cures" cancer, I figure they're not an oncologist, and ignore 'em.
I don't really think of them as medical, but the stupidest thing I've ever heard a pseudo-medical person (chiropractor) say was something along the lines that we'd all be better off if we gave up all dairy, sugar, and gluten . . . and artificial sweeteners are just as bad as sugar because they trick our body (into releasing insulin or something, I forget); but honey is OK, because it's a superfood; and agave isn't a superfood, but it's OK because it at least is a whole food. There was more, equally dumb.
And you know who he told this bull-whatsis to? A breast cancer support group. SMH.
That is a good point about cancer hadn't thought of it like that. When the general public thinks disease they think of oil infectious disease, something with a specific cause...a moment of infection and the potential for treatment and cure or prevention through vaccination. There are many other forms of disease though where those dont apply....genetic diseases for example l oui le cystic fibrosis or cancer. Personally I dknt really think there will ever be a cure for cancer, just better treatments and better management.5 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »And sugar feeds cancer cells...
This is an insidious kind of woo....the kind that is technically true but yet totally useless. Sure...sugar "feeds" cancer cells...because it "feeds" all of your cells. It'd be like saying oxygen feeds cancer cells or that bleach kills cancer cells...also true, but I dont think holding your breath or drinking bleach is a good idea.20 -
I have a new one. One of the women at my gym started C60 this week. I had to look it up. I'll let you do the same and go down the rabbit hole on your own. Hint - within a short time after the study was introduced, there was a flurry in the scientific world pointing out the errors in the research including using the same picture for completely different results.2
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Almost everything about food: good foods, bad foods, superfoods, cholesterol, fat, sugar, eating at certain time, certain combinations, carbs...all of it. We have a society of people that are literally scared of food and have been taught that there is a definite right and wrong way to eat. Food has become a necessary evil and your body can’t be trusted to tell you when you are hungry or thirsty.8
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I'm only 5 woos away from reaching 100 lifetime woos. Do I get a special prize or video when I reach that milestone?13
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debrakgoogins wrote: »I'm only 5 woos away from reaching 100 lifetime woos. Do I get a special prize or video when I reach that milestone?
Didn't happen for me. Maybe it's when you reach 1000?6
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