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  • funinnorway
    funinnorway Posts: 45 Member
    Thank you barbiecat, stressful yes and even when you are not there! But happily on track now and you are right it is an eating plan rather than a 'diet'. Glad you like the research, it is one of my in front of the TV activities. I essentially do it for myself but if I think it will be helpful to others, I share.
    Lynnchristy, yes, the maintenance of the site was a pest especially as I was trying to do it late at night. I finally gave up and added in this morning.
    Linda, my TV solution is to turn off the sound and do something else foe a few minutes. Mind you I can't still still anyway and can't even watch TV unless I have a pile of activities to do at the same time. If I feel tempted to eat I go and clean my teeth! :D
    I was reading this last night, more reasons to choose healthy! Sorry it comes with all the extras on the page.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8016945/One-week-unhealthy-eating-damage-brain-normally-stops-eating-MORE.html?ITO=applenews

    Have a great day everyone.

  • barbiecat
    barbiecat Posts: 17,183 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    FWIW, this is an article that I found really helpful in understanding and putting in perspective all of those ups and downs on the scale, when I knew I was doing the right things in terms of my calorie goal:

    https://physiqonomics.com/the-weird-and-highly-annoying-world-of-scale-weight-and-fluctuations

    :) Thank you. This is a great article. I knew most of what was in the article but the presentation was so clear and easy to understand. After a long time of weighing twice a day every day, I learned a lot about fluctuations. Most frequently overnight weight gain comes from restaurant or processed foods or broccoli, or nuts. Now that I know that, I don't worry about it.

    <3 Barbie from NW WA
  • bacpath
    bacpath Posts: 326 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    FWIW, this is an article that I found really helpful in understanding and putting in perspective all of those ups and downs on the scale, when I knew I was doing the right things in terms of my calorie goal:

    https://physiqonomics.com/the-weird-and-highly-annoying-world-of-scale-weight-and-fluctuations

    Thanks, Ann
  • barbiecat
    barbiecat Posts: 17,183 Member
    :) I am old enough to remember dial up internet and no internet, so when MFP or any other internet related activity is not available, I'm not stressed
  • bacpath
    bacpath Posts: 326 Member
    I started on MFP because of a health issue and because I just am so tired of these 30-50 pounds I have been fighting with all my life. I find the tracking so educational and interesting. I learn something new everyday. I am so grateful for the group and individual support. It makes me accountable. I also have a real life diet buddy and we check in frequently.
    Doing well with the diet and enjoying my upper body and core only aerobics!
    Best to everyone. Cheers
  • bethe
    bethe Posts: 79 Member
    Hi everyone - I hope you are having a great day!

    I'm not losing my spare tire as quickly as I would like, but the info Ann posted made me face the fact that this is for the long haul, and to just go with it - it'll happen sooner or later. Fortunately, between MFP and a recently acquired grill/air fryer, I'm eating much better. The only thing I'm really missing is a coke each morning (egads, the sugar and carbs in those things!). And, I'm not missing beer at all. Today's mail brought a very good pair of walking shoes from Zappos, and they got put to a successful test earlier today. Much to the pup's unhappiness I had to cut that walk short because it was drizzling, so we'll get the other half done in a bit if the weather allows.

    Back in the fall I adjusted my supplement routine which helped tremendously - and now with MFP, that has been balanced with proper eating and exercise. It's amazing how much better I consistently feel now, both physically and mentally.
  • barbiecat
    barbiecat Posts: 17,183 Member
    :) I have a lot of "friends" on MFP, but the best unaccountably for me is being part of a thread that I can check in with every day. I can see how you are doing and I can tell you what's happening with me.

    :) My husband has a bread maker and likes making bread for me. I figured out how to slice and freeze it so I can dole it our sparingly to myself rather than eating the whole loaf in one sitting. Today's bread is rye. I am taking one slice to my walking friend when I see her tomorrow.

    <3 Barbie in NW WA
  • RetiredAndLovingIt
    RetiredAndLovingIt Posts: 1,394 Member
    ooh, I love rye bread @barbiecat
  • teresadannar
    teresadannar Posts: 199 Member
    Hello all, Happy Friday! Question, what link do you use to determine your maintenance calories? Let's say you want to go on a few day hiatus, do you use the maintenance calories based on your current weight or your goal weight? This is what I've been using: https://www.lifespanfitness.com/fitness/resources/calories-calculator
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,118 Member
    teresadannar wrote: »
    Hello all, Happy Friday! Question, what link do you use to determine your maintenance calories? Let's say you want to go on a few day hiatus, do you use the maintenance calories based on your current weight or your goal weight? This is what I've been using: https://www.lifespanfitness.com/fitness/resources/calories-calculator

    Perhaps this thread (link below) in the maintenance part of the forum would be helpful: It discusses several methods people can use to find the right level when transitioning to maintenance, and most (not all) would work for a temporary maintenance break.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10638211/how-to-find-your-maintenance-calorie-level/p1

    If you want to use a calculator that's been working for you so far (correctly predicts your weight loss), you would use your current-weight maintenance calories. If you're close to final goal, it might not be a big difference, but if you have a fair bit to lose yet, your goal-weight maintenance calories may be enough less than your current-weight maintenance calories that you'd keep losing on goal-weight maintenance calories.

    (Some people even do their whole weight loss process just eating goal weight maintenance calories. I had a fantasy about doing that for a while, but got impatient. ;) It gets slow.).
  • teresadannar
    teresadannar Posts: 199 Member
    AnnPT77, you are a wealth of information! Thank you.
  • alteredsteve175
    alteredsteve175 Posts: 2,725 Member
    Have a good weekend, y'all. Working this weekend in order to get some river time next week. That will get me through. And of course - the obligatory walks with the dog. Come on, spring!
  • j29t
    j29t Posts: 229 Member

    Good evening and welcome to all new joins. Thanks for all the caring and sharing here 60 and uppers. It seems like the support here is just what we need.
    Today has been a good day. I was a bit blue since my trip to see the grandchildren needed to be postponed. The weather forecasted wasn't favorable for the five hour drive. I set out to keep myself busy. It's quite cold so my walk was inside the building after tracking the days food. The community had a Hula Dance performance and workshop for us, I passed on the snacks served. Had fun and later found some senior Hula YouTube that I'll add to my movement routine. Thought this knitter should be able to learn crochet and practiced that as well as doing an online beginner guitar lesson. Kept my hands and mind busy, got up and moved plenty and the day flew by.
    Wishing all of you well, stay active and eat healthy.

    Special aloha to my friends. Om….
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,118 Member
    edited February 2020
    teresadannar wrote: »
    AnnPT77, you are a wealth of information! Thank you.

    You're welcome!

    I've just been around here for a long time (almost 5 years). There's a lot of good info in the "most helpful posts" sections of each forum area, and some very well-informed people to learn from, including some genuine credentialed experts. After a while, one kind of sees who knows their stuff. ;)
  • funinnorway
    funinnorway Posts: 45 Member
    Good morning everyone and a special one to my friends! j29t and annliz23, you must both be so disappointed at not getting to spend planned time with your grandchildren! Mine have spent several days with me this week and gifted me a delightful cold, everytime I cough or blow my nose, I think of them!
    barbiecat, I take my hat off to you for resisting the fresh bread temptation!!
    Just doing some catch up post reading and what struck me was how much else people are dealing with as well as their weight. And, amidst their own worries and problems how much care they show for others on this site. What an amazing group. Always on hand to share and support.
    Yes, I have been reading again and wanted to share some more about gut health with you. I am NOT spruiking the diet in this article, to each his own I say, just the information about the role of a healthy gut.
    https://theconversation.com/mediterranean-diet-increases-gut-bacteria-linked-to-healthy-ageing-in-older-adults-131928
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  • RCPV
    RCPV Posts: 342 Member
    @getthebabeback , thank you for the above informative chart - some I knew about, some I didn't. I have to admit I had to google the word "spruiking". You learn something new every day. :)
  • lynnchristy
    lynnchristy Posts: 75 Member
    Good morning 60 and uppers :)j29t, you are keeping all kinds of busy, you go girl ;) Happy Aloha Saturday! AnnPT77, thanks again for all the great info you post. You are our info diva B)getthebabeback, Bless you for being a caregiver. A big thanks to you, too for the great chart about good bacteria foods :Dbarbiecat, you are so inspiring to me (hug) Keep on dancing <3RCPV, isn't this message board great, we get a bit of everything we need, what could be better?

    Shout out to my friends <3

    Have a blessed weekend everyone :D
  • annliz23
    annliz23 Posts: 3,714 Member
    getthebabeback wrote: »
    Good morning everyone and a special one to my friends! j29t and annliz23, you must both be so disappointed at not getting to spend planned time with your grandchildren! Mine have spent several days with me this week and gifted me a delightful cold, everytime I cough or blow my nose, I think of them!
    barbiecat, I take my hat off to you for resisting the fresh bread temptation!!
    Just doing some catch up post reading and what struck me was how much else people are dealing with as well as their weight. And, amidst their own worries and problems how much care they show for others on this site. What an amazing group. Always on hand to share and support.
    Yes, I have been reading again and wanted to share some more about gut health with you. I am NOT spruiking the diet in this article, to each his own I say, just the information about the role of a healthy gut.
    https://theconversation.com/mediterranean-diet-increases-gut-bacteria-linked-to-healthy-ageing-in-older-adults-131928
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    Very useful thanks!
  • bacpath
    bacpath Posts: 326 Member
    Thanks @getthebabeback. I found that really interesting. I think we have lots more to learn about our bugs! And thanks to all who post here, I truly find it so helpful, inspiring and supportive. I am still learning about macros and struggle to get all my protein, but have discovered herb and egg white omelets. Tasty and they look a little fancy, so make the eating enjoyable. I have charted my wine and small piece of chocolate for tonight- we’ll see how I resist. Good day to all and thanks again!,,🥰
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,118 Member
    bethe wrote: »
    Well, I just got a big illustration re: the article AnnPT77 posted about scale fluctuations. I just weighed myself this morning, and there's a six pound difference between today and what I weighed two days ago. Fortunately for my ego it's in the "correct" direction - but I now understand on a personal level just how widely weight can vary depending upon day to day factors.

    Congrats on the surprising big drop! (It's nice when some of the early experiences trend that way, but of course fluctuations in both directions will happen.)

    To me, it seems like not understanding fluctuations is one of the big discouragers for a lot of people, especially when starting out. There are posts about it all the time. People reduce calories, but add a lot of exercise, and get discouraged that they're not losing weight (but the explanation is water weight for muscle repair from the new exercise, which will sort itself out, usually in a small number of weeks).

    Or, someone who's losing rapidly decides to eat a couple hundred more calories, sees a big jump on the scale and freaks out, thinking they've "wrecked their metabolism" and can't increase calories without gaining, when all that's happening is that those extra calories cause more digestive system contents in transit, and included carbs (which aren't evil, but tie up a few extra grams of water in the digestive process, per gram of carbs**) and sodium (ditto, for electrolyte balance).

    Or, someone has an over-goal day, sees a big scale jump, and thinks they've "ruined all their progress", so gives up, when it's virtually all water weight (carbs and sodium) and extra digestive contents that will be gone in a few days to a week or so.

    Mostly, I think, what we want is fat loss . . . and the scale really doesn't measure that, over the short run. Even the fancy "body fat percent" scales are very distorted by hydration, only (at best) good for longer term trends, not short-range monitoring. Water weight fluctuations are part of how a normal, healthy body functions: Ideally, we can learn to live with that, and not try to game it.

    I'm a big believer in weight-trending apps (Libra for Android, Happy Scale for iOS, Trendweight with a free Fitbit account (don't need a Fitbit device), Weightgrapher, others). I think we don't have a current "true weight". I think we have a current range of a few pounds up/down over a day to a small number of weeks, and a longer-term trend over weeks to months, where the range cycles gradually lower with successful fat loss.

    ** Main reason low-carb diets produce a satisfyingly big weight drop quickly: Fewer carbs, less water weight. It will come back if carbs increase again, and cause a scale jump, but it's not fat. Long run, calorie-equalized/protein-equalized diets produce very similar weight loss results, whether higher fat or higher carb. (Protein matters a little in weight loss . . . but we have so many more important reasons to get enough of that. :) ).

    Apologies for going all pedantic again!

    I hope everyone will have a happy Saturday. It's finally sunny and a little warmer here today (supposed to get up to 40-something F, after days in the teens/twenties. I'm planning to meet some out of town friends (married couple) and go to an orchid show, which is a lovely burst of color and warmth in this late-Winter time. I may even need to bring a new orchid or two home with me . . . though (eek) I killed a couple of my existing ones - that I'd had for at least a year or two - recently. Then, I suppose we'll probably grab lunch or coffee or something. Really looking forward to it!

    Best wishes, all, for a happy and productive weekend!

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