March 2019 Monthly Running Challenge
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@PastorVincent Actually, I did not recommend the Wunjo. I was considering trying a water pack of some kind until early 2016, when I learned that Boston does not allow them. If I couldn't use the pack in my longest, most important race of the year, I didn't see the point in buying one and learning to run in it. I stuck with my familiar hydration belt, and have had a couple of different ones since then. This year, I see that the NYC Marathon doesn't allow back packs either.
I was going to say I'm a belt runner, but that sounds too much like a smuggler in a space opera you might write.4 -
You remember when I brought up the Sandlot Marathon a couple of months ago? 384 (and a half) laps around a baseball field? It happened last Saturday and the local news did a piece on it. I'm proud to say I know several people in the video, both race organizers and race participants. I'm hoping I get to do this next year.
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/land-of-10000-stories/marathon-on-a-baseball-diamond-has-one-rule-turn-left/89-ff89beeb-8b0d-40a6-91ab-7b179d119b54
I genuinely can’t decide whether that story makes me feel more impressed or dizzy, but either way, it does look like fun.1 -
@PastorVincent Actually, I did not recommend the Wunjo. I was considering trying a water pack of some kind until early 2016, when I learned that Boston does not allow them. If I couldn't use the pack in my longest, most important race of the year, I didn't see the point in buying one and learning to run in it. I stuck with my familiar hydration belt, and have had a couple of different ones since then. This year, I see that the NYC Marathon doesn't allow back packs either.
I was going to say I'm a belt runner, but that sounds too much like a smuggler in a space opera you might write.
You did not? Huh. I was sure you had the smaller Wunjo... or wait, was that @midwesterner ?0 -
@7lenny7 That lady is very inspiring. Thanks for sharing her story. Sounds like it made for a great last 9 miles of running.1
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runnermom419 wrote: »runnermom419 wrote: »runnermom419 wrote: »runnermom419 wrote: »runnermom419 wrote: »runnermom419 wrote: »runnermom419 wrote: »runnermom419 wrote: »runnermom419 wrote: »runnermom419 wrote: »runnermom419 wrote: »March 2 = 8 miles
March 3 = 5 miles
March 4 = 3.1 miles
March 6 = 3.6 miles
March 7 = 3.1 miles
Total for month = 22.8
Goal for month = 80
Miles left until goal = 57.2
March 10 = 8 miles
Weekend total = 13 miles
22.8 + 13 = 35.8 miles for month
Goal for month = 80 miles
Miles left until goal = 44.2 miles
March 11 - 3.14 miles
35.8 + 3.14 = 38.94 miles for the month
Goal for month = 80 miles
Miles left until goal = 41.06 miles
March 13 - 5 miles
38.94 + 5 = 43.94 miles for the month
Goal for the month = 80 miles
Miles left until goal = 36.06 miles
March 14 - 3.13 miles
43.94 + 3.13 = 47.07 miles for the month
Goal for the month = 80 miles
Miles left until goal = 32.93 Miles
March 16 - 3.1 miles
47.07 + 3.1 = 50.17 miles for the month
Goal for the month = 80 miles
Miles left until goal = 29.83 miles
March 17 - 11 miles
50.17 + 11 = 61.17 miles for the month
Goal #1 for the month = 80 miles
Miles left until goal = 18.83 miles
Oops....I may have to up that goal a bit.
March 18 - 5 miles
61.17 + 5 = 66.17 miles for the month
Goal #1 for the month = 80 miles
Miles left until goal = 13.83 miles
March 20 - 5.8 miles
66.17 + 5.8 = 71.97 miles for the month
Goal #1 - 80 miles
Miles left until goal = 8.03 miles
March 21 - 3.1 miles
71.97 + 3.1 = 75.07 miles for the month
Goal #1 = 80 miles
Miles left until goal - 4.93 miles
March 22 - 8.15 miles
75.07 + 8.15 = 83.22 miles
Goal #1 of 80 miles - CHECK!!
Goal #2 - 100 miles
Miles left until Goal 2 - 16.78 miles
I'm in Daytona Beach!
March 25 - 5 miles on the beach
5 + 83.22 = 88.22 miles for the month
Goal #2 = 100 miles
Mile left until Goal #2 = 11.78 miles10 -
@Elise4270 I didn't realize Mizuno made trail shoes. The On Cloudventure was my favorite trail shoe for over a year until I started wearing Altras. I never had a problem with anything getting stuck in the pods. And yes, I do have quite a collection of shoes. 10 pair in rotation (6 trail, 4 paved) and 8 pair in reserve (4 trail, 4 paved). I do have two pair for paved running and one for trail running which are very close to retirement though.
I like the OC’s. My trail running surfaces are chipped grave, I can’t find good ol’ dirt trails here. I still wear them (now exclusively). I think these shoes would be great if I had a real trail surface to run... or any surface to run and they are my go -to road shoe. My dh likes them too, I think he has 3 pair for road. Thanks for the added information. I’m sure @amymoreorless enjoys the balance of information, I know I do!
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@7lenny7 You may be right on the mark about sleep. It's one of the few things I do really well, but I find it very difficult to get quality sleep while fighting a head cold.
3-1 Rest
3-2 10.5k easy
3-3 11k slow
3-4 10.5k recovery
3-5 Rest
3-6 7k slow
3-7 10.5k easy
3-8 Rest
3-9 11k easy
3-10 7k recovery
3-11 8.5k slow
3-12 Rest
3-13 7k slow
3-14 7k easy
3-15 Rest
3-16 7k easy
3-17 11k slow
3-18 7k recovery
3-19 Rest
3-20 7k easy
3-21 7k slow
3-22 Rest day
3-23 7k easy
3-24 8k slow
3-25 7k recovery
March Total: 151k
March Goal: 175k
Next year when you pop in here claiming your December 2019 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?
Run at least 4 5k races.
Get under 30:00 and a PR for 5k.
Average at least 135k per month, which would put me over 1,000 miles for the year.
Run the Year Team: Five for Nineteen
Almost a repeat of yesterday: cloudy, cool (35 degrees F), but a nasty little breeze from the northeast. Looks like I'll make goal for the month unless something untoward happens. Team Five for Nineteen got a brand new mileage bib!!!!!
2019 Races:
4-13 Shine the Light 5K (Registered)
6-1 Freedom 5K (Will be off the schedule due to another commitment)
6-30 Strides for Starfish 5K4 -
did 20mi yesterday.
first, i had to stop by target for fuel. i like the gatorade energy chews so i bought those. i thought about buying the honey stinger chews but they were a dollar more. the marathon on the 6th will use stinger but i might buy the gatorade ones. less gastric distress. nuun was on sale so i bought that too as they will have that on the race. i also ended up buying two body glides as i felt a few points that might have chafed. i ended up putting it in my pack in case i needed it along the way.
which brings up a question. on fb someone said they ran with their muscle rub with them on their marathon. i never even thought about it. does anyone else do it? is there anything else you bring?
i was first worried about being overdressed but i was a bit chilly when i finished. it was uncomfortable but not cry worthy. my clothes fit better than on my last run. i might wear all this on race day. it was a little weird because it started at 56f and dropped to 26f. the area above my knees got a little tight. my feet ached a bit. but i ran 20 miles so i figure till i get used to the distance it's probably not abnormal
i had gotten to the start of the rails to trail and went to start and found out the "run" option was not on my watch. turned it off. turned it back on. nope. so i went to the app and found it. resynced. went to the bathroom to apply the glide and found a little muskrat on the shore of the pond. tried to get a picture but people with a dog came up. but lots of avian life on the trail. along the way, someone came up towards me with a dog not on a leash. she asked if i was afraid of dogs. "no but it should be on a leash" she heeled it but still didn't put it on a leash. as we passed, she sarcastically said "have a nice day" sweetly "you too." I wish people would understand that it just takes one second for things to go wrong. maybe he didn't like my shoes, or there is a skunk or a muskrat or that kid made a weird motion or another dog that isn't as friendly. my dogs have great recall but still found a porcupine.
i struggled here and there but i kept finding cardinals. and i felt renewed energy. it is said that cardinals are a loved one watching over you. if that's the case, i had a lot of loved ones supporting me. if i run like i did yesterday, i can literally walk the last six miles and finish ahead of the sweeper. i hope to do more but just in case. i think, i might try an interval run next weekend to see how it feels. otherwise, stick to 13min pace day. i felt much better about this run than last week's. i didn't even cry. meditation and a little negotiation. i had a hard time after mile 13 but was renewed around 15. negotiated the last 2. i felt like i would have regretted not doing it. so i did.
speed demon giving me the look i get when i don't take her
from the trail and haul from target10 -
Shoe sale from JackRabbit sports. I’d imagine everyone is having a shoe sale as the new line usually drops in March. Good time to get shoes if you need them. I think they have a good return policy, we use them and dh just sent back a pair he didn’t like after running in them a week or so.
ETA I caved... not running, can’t even walk but I got a pair of WOMEN'S ALTRA SUPERIOR 3.5 TRAIL RUNNING SHOE, since the other trail runners love them, I had to be like @Scott6255 and jump on the band wagon eh... I’ll still need shoes, right? Here’s putting faith in my recovery. Cheers.
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did 20mi yesterday.
first, i had to stop by target for fuel. i like the gatorade energy chews so i bought those. i thought about buying the honey stinger chews but they were a dollar more. the marathon on the 6th will use stinger but i might buy the gatorade ones. less gastric distress. nuun was on sale so i bought that too as they will have that on the race. i also ended up buying two body glides as i felt a few points that might have chafed. i ended up putting it in my pack in case i needed it along the way.
which brings up a question. on fb someone said they ran with their muscle rub with them on their marathon. i never even thought about it. does anyone else do it? is there anything else you bring?
I had to look up what muscle rub is. I've never used it or heard of it before. In my opinion you should never use any product which masks pain while you're doing the activity which causes pain. That pain just might be a signal that you're about to cause serious damage and I wouldn't want to miss that signal. I know some runners take Ibuprofen preemptively before a long run or race...no way.
For a marathon I'd carry a small container of anti-chafe lube. You couldn't do that with Body Glide, but you could get something like Vaniply or Vaseline and carry it in a small pill jar like this one from the Container Store. It would be very light and worth its weight in cold if you needed it.
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It would be very light and worth its weight in cold if you needed it.
Per my schedule, I did a 30 minute run this morning. I did the run/walk for 3 min/1 min intervals. I was slow as Christmas, but I got it done. Went 2.2 miles for a 13:39 min/mile pace.
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@quilteryoyo I have only been bit by a dog twice. Once was a chihuahua and once was a little terrier/chihuahua mix. The big dogs seems scarier, but I think you are more likely to get bit by the little ones.3
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did 20mi yesterday.
first, i had to stop by target for fuel. i like the gatorade energy chews so i bought those. i thought about buying the honey stinger chews but they were a dollar more. the marathon on the 6th will use stinger but i might buy the gatorade ones. less gastric distress. nuun was on sale so i bought that too as they will have that on the race. i also ended up buying two body glides as i felt a few points that might have chafed. i ended up putting it in my pack in case i needed it along the way.
which brings up a question. on fb someone said they ran with their muscle rub with them on their marathon. i never even thought about it. does anyone else do it? is there anything else you bring?
I had to look up what muscle rub is. I've never used it or heard of it before. In my opinion you should never use any product which masks pain while you're doing the activity which causes pain. That pain just might be a signal that you're about to cause serious damage and I wouldn't want to miss that signal. I know some runners take Ibuprofen preemptively before a long run or race...no way.
For a marathon I'd carry a small container of anti-chafe lube. You couldn't do that with Body Glide, but you could get something like Vaniply or Vaseline and carry it in a small pill jar like this one from the Container Store. It would be very light and worth its weight in cold if you needed it.
hmm, good point.
the glide i have is small and travel sized. it fits in both my trailbelt and my pack.0 -
@mbaker566 great job on your 20 mile run! I too use the Gatorade energy chews. Those are the only thing I have found that doesn't give me any gastric issues. I actually end up sucking on them for several miles just to keep my throat from getting dry.2
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Those of you with hydration packs - what is the shortest run you would use it on? Also if you run with your dog (@mbaker566, @7lenny7) is there a way to squirt water out for your pup?
Right now where we run water fountains are never too far away but I want to get out into some of the trails I have found and doubt there is any water available. I am signed up to take Hobbes for an evening hike at a nearby canyon park that I know has no water available and we are required to bring water with us. I planned to just take a hydro flask but wouldn't do that for a run because of the size and weight.1 -
Those of you with hydration packs - what is the shortest run you would use it on? Also if you run with your dog (@mbaker566, @7lenny7) is there a way to squirt water out for your pup?
Right now where we run water fountains are never too far away but I want to get out into some of the trails I have found and doubt there is any water available. I am signed up to take Hobbes for an evening hike at a nearby canyon park that I know has no water available and we are required to bring water with us. I planned to just take a hydro flask but wouldn't do that for a run because of the size and weight.
Way highly depends on the weather. Winter, with cold temps and low humidity I can run for 90 mins with no water... summer with hotter temps and high humidity and I would not make it 30. My hydration pack holds 1500ml, or about double what my belt holds. So I would make the decision based on how much water I needed for the given conditions.
My wife wears hers all the time so she can be used to it when summer hits.2 -
Those of you with hydration packs - what is the shortest run you would use it on? Also if you run with your dog (@mbaker566, @7lenny7) is there a way to squirt water out for your pup?
Right now where we run water fountains are never too far away but I want to get out into some of the trails I have found and doubt there is any water available. I am signed up to take Hobbes for an evening hike at a nearby canyon park that I know has no water available and we are required to bring water with us. I planned to just take a hydro flask but wouldn't do that for a run because of the size and weight.
i use the pack anything over 16. trailbelt otherwise unless it's hot
so when i can use the trailbelt, i have this bottle. it has a trough so we can share the water and not the germs.
if it were a hot day and less 16 miles and i used the pack, i'd use a regular water bottle(it has a pocket for another bottle) and use a collapsible bowl
speed demon doesn't do more than 16 as of now
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@Shanaber I don't have the hydration pack yet but expect to use mine for anything longer than 30-45 minutes or so, especially as it warms up. So far, we've just been carrying a regular backpack with water bottles and collapsible bowls like the one @mbaker566 linked.0
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Those of you with hydration packs - what is the shortest run you would use it on? Also if you run with your dog (@mbaker566, @7lenny7) is there a way to squirt water out for your pup?
Right now where we run water fountains are never too far away but I want to get out into some of the trails I have found and doubt there is any water available. I am signed up to take Hobbes for an evening hike at a nearby canyon park that I know has no water available and we are required to bring water with us. I planned to just take a hydro flask but wouldn't do that for a run because of the size and weight.
Funny you should ask...
In my UD pack I use two 20 oz soft flasks with bite valves in the breast pockets. Just last Saturday I found a great way to water him with it. I get on one knee, and leaving the bottle in the front pocket, I tilt the valve forward, pinch it, and squeeze the bottle itself with my forearm, which pushes a double stream of water forward. Kody leans forward and starts lapping it up. It comes out strong enough that he doesn't have to lick the bottle.
I say funny, because I discovered this method while trying to quickly water Kody when our group had stopped. In a moment of no thought filter I blurted out, "Geez, I feel like I'm breast feeding him". The women in the group agreed and laughed.
I agree with @PastorVincent in that when to use a hydration vest is highly variable for the reason he mentions. You'll use it on shorter runs than he would because you're carrying water for two. Saturday was the first time I used the vest with Kody and I liked the technique enough that I'll use it more often on shorter runs with him, maybe 8 miles or more.
During that race in KC I did bring along a collapsible bowl similar to the one @mbaker566 has but I think it wasted more water that way than I do breast feeding him because it's easier to give him just what he wants when squirting it.
One consideration for wearing hydration vests is that when you first get one, use it on short runs first, even though you won't need the capacity. Load it up like you would just for a long run or long race and see how it goes. Where there any hot spots? Any chafing? I'd much rather find that out on a short run than a long run. Also, the more you use it, the quicker you'll find out how you like to arrange everything, such as water bottles, gels, bacon, extra jacket, etc. Things you need during the run should be easily accessed. Things you may not need, like a spare jacket can be put in less convenient locations like the back pockets. On this last run I was using soft flasks with extended straws so I wouldn't have to take them out of the breast pockets. I had the valve pointed towards me and after 3 miles the tap-tap-taping of the valve on my collarbone drove me nuts. I finally stopped and turned them away, problem solved and still easy to drink from.
Even though I have a roomy hydration vest I still bring along a running belt to hold my phone, because that's where I'm used to having it, and it gives me additional easy storage for gloves, poop bags, buffs, etc.
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During that race in KC I did bring along a collapsible bowl similar to the one @mbaker566 has but I think it wasted more water that way than I do breast feeding him because it's easier to give him just what he wants when squirting it.
that would be a hard no for speed demon. she doesn't even like it when i look at her when she drinks
maybe because she was feral, i've found she wastes very little water when we are out. at home, that's a different story.
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Those of you with hydration packs - what is the shortest run you would use it on? Also if you run with your dog (@mbaker566, @7lenny7) is there a way to squirt water out for your pup?
Right now where we run water fountains are never too far away but I want to get out into some of the trails I have found and doubt there is any water available. I am signed up to take Hobbes for an evening hike at a nearby canyon park that I know has no water available and we are required to bring water with us. I planned to just take a hydro flask but wouldn't do that for a run because of the size and weight.
I used mine on short 3-5 mile runs when it’s was hot. I packed it with ice, so it doubles as a cool down and hydration. Long run on the weekend during the summer I used it regularly, 90+ min runs.2 -
PastorVincent wrote: »
I used to use a SPIbelt but found that if I had anything in it other than my phone, it would flop around.
Then I found this at Runner's Warehouse on clearance for $32 last October and took a chance. It's fantastic. Huge amount of comfortable storage in a small, easy to carry form factor. Though it came with a water bottle, I have not used it to carry water yet. I should try that out soon.
https://runnerclick.com/salomon-adv-skin-3-belt-set/
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During that race in KC I did bring along a collapsible bowl similar to the one @mbaker566 has but I think it wasted more water that way than I do breast feeding him because it's easier to give him just what he wants when squirting it.
that would be a hard no for speed demon. she doesn't even like it when i look at her when she drinks
maybe because she was feral, i've found she wastes very little water when we are out. at home, that's a different story.
Yeah, that definitely would not work for Speed Demon! The bowl only was wasteful of water because I end up pouring more into than Kody would drink and I'm not about to pour the leftover back in my bottle. I still keep a collapsible bowl in my truck for after the run and for general use when out and above.
When squirting I can stop when it's clear he no longer wants any. There's still wasted water though.1 -
I used mine on short 3-5 mile runs when it’s was hot. I packed it with ice, so it doubles as a cool down and hydration. Long run on the weekend during the summer I used it regularly, 90+ min runs.
@Elise4270 such a simple, yet elegant solution! I'll often fill my handheld bottles halfway and freeze them for runs but never though to do that for a vest. I need to get a bladder for mine because the cold on my back would be divine on a hot run.
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@mbaker566 I love that water bottle. I'm going to have to get one of those!1
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During that race in KC I did bring along a collapsible bowl similar to the one @mbaker566 has but I think it wasted more water that way than I do breast feeding him because it's easier to give him just what he wants when squirting it.
that would be a hard no for speed demon. she doesn't even like it when i look at her when she drinks
maybe because she was feral, i've found she wastes very little water when we are out. at home, that's a different story.
Yeah, that definitely would not work for Speed Demon! The bowl only was wasteful of water because I end up pouring more into than Kody would drink and I'm not about to pour the leftover back in my bottle. I still keep a collapsible bowl in my truck for after the run and for general use when out and above.
When squirting I can stop when it's clear he no longer wants any. There's still wasted water though.
that makes sense. i just pour a little then a little more. any (rare) leftovers i rub on her head and and chest.
on dogs cooling down/rehydrating (even though no one asked )
on warm/hot days, i often do a trail run and then visit a dog friendly lake a few min away for the dog to cool down. when we do near home runs, when the weather warms up, i have a plastic kiddie pool for her to cool down in. she is also a big fan of mud puddles. and i let her run on the grass when it's hot so she doesn't burn her pads.
same for any other dog that may join us (old girl/foster dogs)quilteryoyo wrote: »@mbaker566 I love that water bottle. I'm going to have to get one of those!
it looks like they have metal versions now too. they might keep water colder longer. i bought this three years ago.2 -
I used mine on short 3-5 mile runs when it’s was hot. I packed it with ice, so it doubles as a cool down and hydration. Long run on the weekend during the summer I used it regularly, 90+ min runs.
@Elise4270 such a simple, yet elegant solution! I'll often fill my handheld bottles halfway and freeze them for runs but never though to do that for a vest. I need to get a bladder for mine because the cold on my back would be divine on a hot run.
I tell ya it is! I notice I'm still rather fresh when dh is wiped. ice cubes melt faster, but if its really hot, i freeze it a third to half full.2 -
Finally made it back out for a run after 4 weeks. It was a combination of work weather & health & then fear I wouldn’t be able to run when I did try. I went easy it turned out better than I expected. So glad to have something on the calendar for March.
25/03 3.24 miles10 -
Those of you with hydration packs - what is the shortest run you would use it on? Also if you run with your dog (@mbaker566, @7lenny7) is there a way to squirt water out for your pup?
Right now where we run water fountains are never too far away but I want to get out into some of the trails I have found and doubt there is any water available. I am signed up to take Hobbes for an evening hike at a nearby canyon park that I know has no water available and we are required to bring water with us. I planned to just take a hydro flask but wouldn't do that for a run because of the size and weight.
I don't use a hydration pack, but the question seems to be about the same for a hydration belt. When it's hot and humid, I'll wear the belt for every training run, even the short 4-5 mile runs. When the weather is nice, I may run as much as 8 miles (~1 hour) without water. When I tried 10 miles without water, I found out at mile 9 that this was too far for me that day. On the indoor track, I don't wear a belt; but I'm never more than 200 meters from a drinking fountain there. When doing speed work on an outdoor track, I'll leave my belt at the side of the track because it gets in the way; but I'll be using it between intervals when it's hot and/or humid. I won't wear it for a race of 10K or less, but I expect there to be a few sips of water for a 10K. I might not even take a cup from an aid station in a 5K; how dehydrated am I going to get in 20 minutes?
As others note, it depends on the total circumstances of the run. Weather is a huge factor. Even though I think in terms of distance, I suspect time spent running would be a more consistent measure to compare hydration needs of one runner to another. My easy 4 mile run that doesn't really need water is just a bit over 30 minutes; if your easy 4 mile run takes 40 or 45 minutes, maybe you need water if the weather is less than perfect.5
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