My last post as I’ve given up
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I’m just going to try my best today I’ve made myself 4 meals weighed and cooked rice chicken veg mushrooms just added it all together and in total it works out 205 cals per meal need to log it but what under stir fry type meal I guess once I’ve eaten every thing and my snacks I’m going to log it then
What are the weights for the ingredients? Did you use any oil? 205 cal per meal for a stir fry with chicken and rice seems unlikely.
The OP logged a recipe from Allrecipes.com but when I search the site I cannot for the life of me find this particular recipe listed. Every other chicken stir-fry recipe I've checked over there has at least 350+ calories unless it excludes the rice.5 -
I’ve cooked them done by weighing and have been at work all day and not had gone to log wrote t all down what I’ve had and just done it on here5
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MelanieCN77 wrote: »-start thread with problem historically proven to make people react
-never reply fully to salient questions
-any answers partial at best
-appear unable to use the service well
-type in a way that leaves room for doubt about aptitude
-appear to be taking things on board then pivot to continued obtuseness
Anyone recognise this as a thing?texasredreb wrote: »I'm thinking she's all of the above and a child.
I'm so glad someone said it. Sometimes I have the tendency to be too blunt on the boards and I upset this poster once after they posted several odd threads in a day about a month ago. They posted a thread asking if it was bad to eat late at night.
Me: Yes, it's a myth. You've started a lot of threads today. You made a post earlier asking if it was okay to snack, one talking about how your weight hasn't budged in three weeks, and now this one. I'm not saying that to discourage you from posting, it's just that you seem a bit frantic about your lack of loss and looking for possible reasons instead of sticking it all in one thread.
Them: Ok sorry it’s all new to me I won’t post any more sorry guys good luck
Me: As I wrote, I didn't say that so you wouldn't post; I said it out of concern. If my assumption was incorrect, I apologize, but you honestly seemed like your posts were coming from a place of worry rather than curiosity.
Them: I’ve never done a diet where I count calories and it’s confusing but not to worry I will not write anymore I will work it out thks
The responses struck me as responses that a rational adult would not post, leading me to believe this person may be a teenager. They even cited it as one of the reasons they were leaving in their "I've come to say goodbye" thread: "I did ask in the right places but practically got told I write to many posts I’ve. Even on cal counting and put weight on so don’t see the point of putting post up". It just seems like erratic, irrational behavior of someone who hasn't fully developed emotionally. However, they have said they have to fit into a dress for a wedding but did they ever say they were the bride? In any case, based on all the posts/threads started, I'm of the same opinion as @collectingblues11 -
I’ve cooked them done by weighing and have been at work all day and not had gone to log wrote t all down what I’ve had and just done it on here
And the Allrecipes one was magically the exact one you made? And was bizarrely low? And you couldn't find the individual ingredients?
We all know the answer to these.
Lying to yourself doesn't make you right.8 -
Ok forget it i can’t spend all day typing my job don’t allow I’m not vague I’ve never been a big eater I don’t want to be eating all day so I will sort this out on my own I weighed four small meals and was going to have fruit Inbetween but every day is different when I’m working I’m not on here just to have you reply for the fun off it just needed help I get told watch carbs then don’t I was going to leave as being slagged off for asking for help well I’m not going to worry and will not ask if I can just go into my fitness buddy I will stay off chat thanks for the friends I will reply to you still Thks for your help13
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Agree with things not added up. lots of contradictory posts.I’ve cooked them done by weighing and have been at work all day and not had gone to log wrote t all down what I’ve had and just done it on here
you should weigh the ingredients raw.
You mean you bought a digital scale before work?
where did you note the weight and calories if not in myfitness pal?
where did you find the calories for each food?7 -
This thread has become increasingly uncomfortable so OP I am taking my leave. I wish you well and hope that you figure it out. Sorry I couldn't help.8
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Ok forget it i can’t spend all day typing my job don’t allow I’m not vague I’ve never been a big eater I don’t want to be eating all day so I will sort this out on my own I weighed four small meals and was going to have fruit Inbetween but every day is different when I’m working I’m not on here just to have you reply for the fun off it just needed help I get told watch carbs then don’t I was going to leave as being slagged off for asking for help well I’m not going to worry and will not ask if I can just go into my fitness buddy I will stay off chat thanks for the friends I will reply to you still Thks for your help
Actually, you were told to buy a scale and use it. Instead, you keep insisting that you need to eat more, and that everyone is against you, insisting that we're all the ones who are wrong,
The reality is that you have no clue what you're eating. And you think lying about it makes you more likeable.
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I got scales today2
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I have no need to lie I was scanning g every thing until today5
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205 per meal 4 meals 820 total for the day in my small meals9
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Accurate logging requires two parts: knowing what kind of food you're eating and knowing how much of it you're eating. Barcode scanning only tells you one half (and is not always accurate at even that). A food scale only tells you one half. You have to know both halves in order to log accurately and pulling a random recipe from allrecipes when you can't confirm whether or not it matches your food isn't even doing that. Have you tried the recipe builder here? The importer? The meal function? If you're just going to use a food in the database that seems kind of close to a food you made at home then you aren't even scratching the surface of good logging.9
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205 per meal 4 meals 820 total for the day in my small meals
But because you didn't weigh and enter each item, you don't know that. And you've got a lot of people looking at your entries here, and telling you that no, those meals are not that small.
You. Are. Eating. More. Than. You. Think.18 -
You know what I’m deleting my account as I’m not being called a liar it ain’t been easy trying to lose wait with wrong info when I started but it don’t matter any more I will figure it out good bye good luck all15
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205 per meal 4 meals 820 total for the day in my small meals
You're making this way more complicated than it ever needs to be. You got a scale. Good. That's step one.
Next step is to eat the number of calories my fitness pal tells you to and weigh and log EVERYTHING before you eat it. No guessing. Stop eating when you've reached your daily calorie goal.
Sorry to be blunt but you didnt become overweight by "not being a big eater" or "struggling to reach 1200 calories."
You can eat anything you want. Yes, ANYTHING.
That's literally it.
I'm out, good luck.10 -
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kpaing121, If you are having difficulties with loosing on a 1200 cal diet, maybe look at the types of foods eaten. Rice and nut bars to some people can be a weight gainer...I can not eat rice and nut bars tend to have a high amount of sugar. Are you able to try fresh/cooked veggies-different varieties? Have you tried Kefer? or other fermented foods? Just suggestions.32
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kpaing121, If you are having difficulties with loosing on a 1200 cal diet, maybe look at the types of foods eaten. Rice and nut bars to some people can be a weight gainer...I can not eat rice and nut bars tend to have a high amount of sugar. Are you able to try fresh/cooked veggies-different varieties? Have you tried Kefer? or other fermented foods? Just suggestions.
no. the issue is here incorrect logging. she is eating more than 1200 calories.12 -
kpaing121, If you are having difficulties with loosing on a 1200 cal diet, maybe look at the types of foods eaten. Rice and nut bars to some people can be a weight gainer...I can not eat rice and nut bars tend to have a high amount of sugar. Are you able to try fresh/cooked veggies-different varieties? Have you tried Kefer? or other fermented foods? Just suggestions.
Oddly enough, this is the kind of false advice kpaing would have latched onto had they not deleted their account. However, @Panini911 is correct; they were definitely eating too many calories.14 -
I havent read the whole of this thread yet but you do need to be really careful about the entries. I think a lot of people dont understand 'serving size' and 'per 100g' and then muddle up the calories and other nutrients. So many entries are not accurate. I was correcting things but there are so many I have sort of given up and just use whatever is nearest. I find that someone might put in the correct calories but use the wrong information for fat, sugar etc
Certainly for UK products the sodium is not accurate and you can see where people have tried to calculate the sodium and put something way off or thought you just add 0000 to it to make it like sodium. Lucky for me I dont track it. I have been interested to see just how little sodium I eat.3 -
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kpaing121, If you are having difficulties with loosing on a 1200 cal diet, maybe look at the types of foods eaten. Rice and nut bars to some people can be a weight gainer...I can not eat rice and nut bars tend to have a high amount of sugar. Are you able to try fresh/cooked veggies-different varieties? Have you tried Kefer? or other fermented foods? Just suggestions.
She is not eating 1200 calories. If she was, she would be losing. 1200 calories a day of any food is not going to cause weight gain. This was not a strong first post for you. Maybe you should spend some more time researching legitimate sources before you start commenting, because your advice is not the least bit helpful.11 -
kpaing121, If you are having difficulties with loosing on a 1200 cal diet, maybe look at the types of foods eaten. Rice and nut bars to some people can be a weight gainer...I can not eat rice and nut bars tend to have a high amount of sugar. Are you able to try fresh/cooked veggies-different varieties? Have you tried Kefer? or other fermented foods? Just suggestions.
She is not eating 1200 calories. If she was, she would be losing. 1200 calories a day of any food is not going to cause weight gain. This was not a strong first post for you. Maybe you should spend some more time researching legitimate sources before you start commenting, because your advice is not the least bit helpful.
To be honest I thought it was kpaing using a new account but then I saw that they have been a member since 2013. I wonder what made them choose this as the first post. Maybe it actually is kpaing...6 -
This thread was like a trainwreck....I just could not turn away!
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I've been reading it and just can't believe how patient y'all were with this person. They did delete their account... personally, I think they were just posting to get comments. lol Once the chit hit the fan, they were out. But y'all deserve medals for being such nice guys!!! Y'ALL RULE!13
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poisonesse wrote: »I've been reading it and just can't believe how patient y'all were with this person. They did delete their account... personally, I think they were just posting to get comments. lol Once the chit hit the fan, they were out. But y'all deserve medals for being such nice guys!!! Y'ALL RULE!
Agreed. Some people really went above and beyond to help this person even though they knew deep down something was amiss. I've been around this site for a while; ten years overall and actively posting since June 2015. Whenever there is a post here about someone plateauing, I know what the answer most likely is. It's a breath of fresh air when the poster seeking help can admit they aren't too careful about logging and are open to learning tips and tricks.
However, posters like that are a rarity. Instead of admitting fault of any kind, they always swear they weigh and measure everything. Then they get asked "What do you mean weigh AND measure? You should only be measuring liquids." Again, the poster swears they weigh everything and log meticulously. Then the diary becomes public and there are no grams or ounces to be seen, there are missing weekends, various user made and/or fast food entries even though they said they eat "clean" or know they're accurate, etc. Almost every time without fail. Then they get called out on it in a direct way and they get defensive.
I'll admit that I'm blunt but when I'm posed with a problem, my thought process is to offer a non sugar-coated solution. I would never make fun of someone for eating more than they think; it's easy to make that mistake and portion sizes have grown. To get defensive and lie isn't going to help them though. Giving them soft suggestions like getting their thyroid checked in order to spare their feelings isn't going to help them. I gained and lost weight using this website in the past before I truly understood what the numbers meant; I was fresh out of high school, tired of being obese, and just thought 1200 calories was the goal no matter what. I had no clue about CICO and never heard about it in real life. I came back here in June 2015 at the age of 30 wanting to finally change. I have a mathematics degree and once I read that essentially this was all math related and boiled down to CICO, it was a breeze for me. I was using the food scale from day one and losing weight could not have been more simple thanks to the posters of this site.
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kpaing121, If you are having difficulties with loosing on a 1200 cal diet, maybe look at the types of foods eaten. Rice and nut bars to some people can be a weight gainer...I can not eat rice and nut bars tend to have a high amount of sugar. Are you able to try fresh/cooked veggies-different varieties? Have you tried Kefer? or other fermented foods? Just suggestions.
Last week, I looked at 28 days of her logs and they showed she was averaging 912 calories per days. She said she only lost a pound in this time. That's simply not possible, so the issue was bad logging, likely a combination of not logging everything and using bad entries.9 -
kpaing121, If you are having difficulties with loosing on a 1200 cal diet, maybe look at the types of foods eaten. Rice and nut bars to some people can be a weight gainer...I can not eat rice and nut bars tend to have a high amount of sugar. Are you able to try fresh/cooked veggies-different varieties? Have you tried Kefer? or other fermented foods? Just suggestions.
OP has deleted her account, but I think this is probably still worth responding to in order to hopefully clarify some of your statements/beliefs...
Rice and nut bars (or any individual food for that matter) will not cause weight gain if a person is eating in a calorie deficit. If someone has been restricting carbs, and adds these foods back, it's possible they could see some short term water weight gain, but this would only be temporary. Much in the same way that a person experiences a woosh of loss when going on a low carb diet...
Secondly, why do you think Keffir or other fermented foods would help with the OP's issues?10 -
Don’t give up , just go back to the drawing board and figure out your macros , and calorie maintenance and try an eat below that ... you can do this !!! Have fun with it , enjoy the ride . It takes time , consistency is key in my opinion ... be sure you’re also giving your body enough calories to function off of ... minimal calories may actually slower fat loss in my opinion and experience... if June is your target date then it’s time to ramp it up ... maybe increase your cardio to with little bit of weights before ... you got this !! Dont throw in the towel 💙23
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