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avoiding shopping. Um... are you supposed to eat your clothes or something?0
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New CDC guidance is for those over 60 and those with severe chronic medical conditions to stay home as much as possible, including avoiding shopping and crowds. An adviser to the CDC recommends avoiding things like air travel, movie theaters, family events, malls, and weekly religious services.
Like everything else, some will and some won't. I do see more people doing online grocery ordering and not going to as many movies or concerts but humans are social creatures and self imposed quarantine is difficult for many.0 -
Also: "Family and Caregiver Support
Know what medications your loved one is taking and see if you can help them have extra on hand.
Monitor food and other medical supplies (oxygen, incontinence, dialysis, wound care) needed and create a back-up plan.
Stock up on non-perishable food items to have on hand in your home to minimize trips to stores.
If you care for a loved one living in a care facility, monitor the situation, ask about the health of the other residents frequently and know the protocol if there is an outbreak."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/specific-groups/high-risk-complications.html1 -
DecadeDuchess wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »DecadeDuchess wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »DecadeDuchess wrote: »While the main panic concerning daily necessities're customers, where I am via business & government here, causes it as well. Prior to the Blizzard of 1996, I took the bus to school whilst it was snowing. There were no delayed openings, ½ days, early release or snow days.
After we were coddled by many snow less winters, shovels & sleds, weren't sold here. Now I know better than to take the bus anywhere, unless I know that I'll be able to walk home because they'll cancel the buses & our government, orders vehicles off of the roads because of just a dusting, of snow.
Just out of curiosity, is the use of the apostrophe intentional here? necessities're
If so, what English word are you contracting with necesseties?
Yeah it's intentional, necessities're = necessities are. It's a habit to combine & shorten words because of low character limits elsewhere.
It makes your posts very difficult to read/understand.
I was going along the lines of how other words do, that everyone seems to be able to read & understand. They're = they are or I've = I have.
I can understand your posts, but only with a lot of extra effort. Since there is no character limit here, would you be willing to use only standard contractions?15 -
cosmiqrecovery wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »cosmiqrecovery wrote: »cosmiqrecovery wrote: »my dad was just admitted to the hospital. two weeks of flu symptoms, dipping oxygen levels, difficulty breathing. there haven't been any confirmed cases in my area yet. i'm trying not to get scared here but *kitten* it might end up hitting me close to home after all.
update: so thankfully oklahoma is still (that we know of) coronavirus-free. my dad was let out a few minutes ago with an upper respiratory infection, apparently caught just in time before it became pneumonia. i'm sure corona fears helped get him out of the waiting room a lot faster though. definitely had me sweating.
Did they test him for COVID 19?
honestly i'm not sure. i'm stuck at work so i haven't been with him in the hospital, just receiving updates by text. he's been the most paranoid person in my family about it though, so i'm sure he would have asked unless the price tag scared him off.
edit: i asked and he said no, so that's not comforting. fingers crossed it's really just an infection i guess!!!!!
Statistically speaking, it is unlikely that testing was available. Earlier today, I heard the senator from Washington state lamenting the lack of testing kits available and the administration's over-promising and under-delivering.3 -
DecadeDuchess wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »DecadeDuchess wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »DecadeDuchess wrote: »While the main panic concerning daily necessities're customers, where I am via business & government here, causes it as well. Prior to the Blizzard of 1996, I took the bus to school whilst it was snowing. There were no delayed openings, ½ days, early release or snow days.
After we were coddled by many snow less winters, shovels & sleds, weren't sold here. Now I know better than to take the bus anywhere, unless I know that I'll be able to walk home because they'll cancel the buses & our government, orders vehicles off of the roads because of just a dusting, of snow.
Just out of curiosity, is the use of the apostrophe intentional here? necessities're
If so, what English word are you contracting with necesseties?
Yeah it's intentional, necessities're = necessities are. It's a habit to combine & shorten words because of low character limits elsewhere.
It makes your posts very difficult to read/understand.
I was going along the lines of how other words do, that everyone seems to be able to read & understand. They're = they are or I've = I have.
yes but they do that because it is contractions they are used to seeing, not because they are thinking through the apostrophe contraction rule every time they see it.
I know we all make accidental typo's ( I am one of the worse culprits for this) but probably best not to make up our own intentional rules for changing standard written language usage.
It makes posts harder to understand and breaks up the flow of easy reading and leaves one guessing was that a typo? what was it suppossed to say?
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On topic - it worries me that all this social isolation recomended for elderly people is not a good idea really
Going out shopping, going to social outings - much better for mental health than staying stuck in your own home with shopping delivered and social connection via electronic means (and thats for those who are tech savvy with electronic means which is not all elderly people)
well known that social isolation is a key factor in depression for many people.
But I know we have to balance the risks.5 -
My dad’s an introvert turning hermit, with definite depression... at 69 years old I think he’s a bit too excited about those recommendationspaperpudding wrote: »On topic - it worries me that all this social isolation recomended for elderly people is not a good idea really
Going out shopping, going to social outings - much better for mental health than staying stuck in your own home with shopping delivered and social connection via electronic means (and thats for those who are tech savvy with electronic means which is not all elderly people)
well known that social isolation is a key factor in depression for many people.
But I know we have to balance the risks.
although, I am very much like him and wasn’t too sad to be housebound with sick kiddos for the last 10-12 days... slightly frustrating a time or two, bummed to miss out on a couple occasions, but overall relaxing!
Basketball tomorrow - 300+ kiddos and their families cycling in and out for nearly 12 hours. Eeesh.... The Home Depot near us has cancelled all workshops until further notice so I prepped my kids that they might do the same for the last couple of b-ball games. Hubby is a ref, instead of shaking hands at the end he is going to have them bump elbows... not that it makes a huge drastic difference after the ball has been passed around for an hour, but at least an attempt. He also already tells them to go wash their hands after every single game.
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I think it might come with age and/or hormone changes - I remember having a discussion with my mom years ago when she asked me to open a produce bag for her at the store. I think over time you lose moisture in your skin and things like turning pages, opening bags, etc. becomes darn near impossible. At 35, post hysterectomy (since my guess is hormones play a role), I have had to relearn a new knot for sewing/quilting because I can’t pinch and twist the thread like I used to be able to (unless, of course, I lick my fingers... but that’s not happening!)DecadeDuchess wrote: »
I am certain, that she does this when turning book pages & counting cash, as well.
My question is, how does a person acquire this nasty habit in the first place? I have never in my life had the urge to lick my fingers to help separate papers.0 -
moonangel, yes some of these suggestions dont seem too thought out - contact sports like football, for example - touch the same ball multiple times and tackle ones opponent, - but then dont shake hands after the game??
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moonangel12 wrote: »
I think it might come with age and/or hormone changes - I remember having a discussion with my mom years ago when she asked me to open a produce bag for her at the store. I think over time you lose moisture in your skin and things like turning pages, opening bags, etc. becomes darn near impossible. At 35, post hysterectomy (since my guess is hormones play a role), I have had to relearn a new knot for sewing/quilting because I can’t pinch and twist the thread like I used to be able to (unless, of course, I lick my fingers... but that’s not happening!)DecadeDuchess wrote: »
I am certain, that she does this when turning book pages & counting cash, as well.
My question is, how does a person acquire this nasty habit in the first place? I have never in my life had the urge to lick my fingers to help separate papers.
Lol- not to belabor the point, but I'm 51, have just had 4 months of cold, dry air, and can pinch my skin and it will hold it's shape... still not licking.
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paperpudding wrote: »DecadeDuchess wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »DecadeDuchess wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »DecadeDuchess wrote: »While the main panic concerning daily necessities're customers, where I am via business & government here, causes it as well. Prior to the Blizzard of 1996, I took the bus to school whilst it was snowing. There were no delayed openings, ½ days, early release or snow days.
After we were coddled by many snow less winters, shovels & sleds, weren't sold here. Now I know better than to take the bus anywhere, unless I know that I'll be able to walk home because they'll cancel the buses & our government, orders vehicles off of the roads because of just a dusting, of snow.
Just out of curiosity, is the use of the apostrophe intentional here? necessities're
If so, what English word are you contracting with necesseties?
Yeah it's intentional, necessities're = necessities are. It's a habit to combine & shorten words because of low character limits elsewhere.
It makes your posts very difficult to read/understand.
I was going along the lines of how other words do, that everyone seems to be able to read & understand. They're = they are or I've = I have.
yes but they do that because it is contractions they are used to seeing, not because they are thinking through the apostrophe contraction rule every time they see it.
I know we all make accidental typo's ( I am one of the worse culprits for this) but probably best not to make up our own intentional rules for changing standard written language usage.
It makes posts harder to understand and breaks up the flow of easy reading and leaves one guessing was that a typo? what was it suppossed to say?
It calls to mind an admonishment of one of my professors when I was in college, "If my thoughts are not worth my effort to state clearly, they're not worth the reader's time to understand".10 -
I've been watching several different national and local media sources in the US, and they are desperately admonishing people to stay calm but be prepared. They are interviewing medical sources to remind people to practice good hygiene and not waste time hoarding or fall for scams.
They are focusing the "drama" on how unprepared our healthcare system is if there is in fact a sudden spike in the immuno compromised or elderly needing treatment.
Rumor, conspiracy theories, and panic are happening at the individual level and spreading largely through social media. I'm curious what 'media' sources people are seeing fear mongering or causing panic. Maybe I've just been lucky enough to miss it, despite watching and reading a lot more news than usual recently.17 -
I've been watching several different national and local media sources in the US, and they are desperately admonishing people to stay calm but be prepared. They are interviewing medical sources to remind people to practice good hygiene and not waste time hoarding or fall for scams.
They are focusing the "drama" on how unprepared our healthcare system is if there is in fact a sudden spike in the immuno compromised or elderly needing treatment.
Rumor, conspiracy theories, and panic are happening at the individual level and spreading largely through social media. I'm curious what 'media' sources people are seeing fear mongering or causing panic. Maybe I've just been lucky enough to miss it, despite watching and reading a lot more news than usual recently.
This has been my observation, as well.10 -
I've been watching several different national and local media sources in the US, and they are desperately admonishing people to stay calm but be prepared. They are interviewing medical sources to remind people to practice good hygiene and not waste time hoarding or fall for scams.
They are focusing the "drama" on how unprepared our healthcare system is if there is in fact a sudden spike in the immuno compromised or elderly needing treatment.
Rumor, conspiracy theories, and panic are happening at the individual level and spreading largely through social media. I'm curious what 'media' sources people are seeing fear mongering or causing panic. Maybe I've just been lucky enough to miss it, despite watching and reading a lot more news than usual recently.
I also have not seen any media reports that are making me panic, and I have been following developments fairly closely. I think there is a lot we don't know, and like most, I imagine, I have some personal ideas about how I think things might play out. But while I am not panicked, I am certainly concerned for high-risk family and friends, as the evidence clearly indicates this is a significant threat for them.
Also, I've been very impressed by the level-headed, informative nature of this thread (though it doesn't surprise me from the many long-time posters here).
For those who are critical, I'm curious what information or suggestions have been shared that they feel are misguided, and what they are basing their decisions on for themselves and their loved ones instead?8 -
I think there's a certain obliviousness in some of the reaction to preparation, planning, and avoidance.
Someplace, maybe even in this thread (but it might have been some meme-ified nonsense), I saw something about how there was a similar huge stir about Ebola, SARS, etc., and then they each turned out to be mostly non-events.
To some extent, there may have been, then and now, over-reaction and overplanning by the experts.
I also think that in the public's after the fact reaction, there's a failure to appreciate that the planning and preparations and precautions around those diseases are part of the reason that they turned out mostly to be non-events, in global terms.
I'd say there's some analogy to the Y2K panic, something that as an IT professional in that era, I was extremely involved in. The public reaction after the event had a lot of "The experts were all wrong, nothing happened, why was there panic? So overblown!" about it. But it was all of the work that happened behind the scenes to most people that made it a non-event.
I think there's some of this effect in the reaction to novel diseases, too: When preventive and mitigating actions work, people less central to those efforts think the risk was exaggerated, when in practice - at least in part - the risk was managed, and the potential worst effects were blunted.12 -
DancingMoosie wrote: »We just got some extra dry beans, rice, and gallon jugs of water. We aren't really afraid of the virus, but more of the panicked shoppers that might clear the shelves, lol.
Same here! I mean, yeah, I'm worried about getting sick, but my husband is more worried about the possibility of a quarantine. We've made a couple trips outside normal shopping trips. Walmart had spots of sold out cleaning supplies. We got two bags of flour, sugar and a couple things of dry milk. I also got 5 cases of 24 and 32 ct bottles of water (two of one and three of the other). Stocking up on canned things each trip. My brother in law has a different approach that he 'could live off beans and rice'...I'm not sure his three kids could though *facepalm*3 -
I'm in Washington state, pretty close to the confirmed cases and yes, I'm a tad worried. Not in a panic, but being cautious. I have little kids and have asthma myself so I don't want any of us catching ANYTHING that could land us in the hospital.
I'm wondering why is everyone stockpiling toilet paper?!?! That is selling out as quick as water around here!
I've got a dog with diabetes, so I'm probably gonna get a few more vials of insulin and a box or two of syringes just to be on the safe side.5 -
You do realize that thanks to the Internet the “narrative” is coming from many different nations over the entire world, right? How are so many different places with different forms of government, different ideologies, and different local media companies all managing to agree to the same conspiracy?14
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