Coronavirus prep
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »I know there were a few people here who tested positive and there may be more. Thought I'd share this. Free care kit for anyone who tested positive. Includes diffuser and essential oils.
https://amet.bio/bb-19/index_en.asp?
Why did someone flag this?? This isn't spam it is a legit website. We even share it with our patients who test positive in case they want to claim a free diffuser.0 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I don't think it will be approved for children until after it is already dispersed for adults. It hasn't yet been approved for children, they are just starting gathering data and formal testing with children now is what I read.3 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
As a type 2 diabetic I’m tier 2, behind health care workers, nursing homes, and first responders, with 23 million in front of me. My husband with asthma is either in the same tier or nearly last, depending on whether asthma and sharing a household with a high risk person are considered risk factors.2 -
Article in our local paper this morning - contact tracing interviews found that 76% of people continued going out to work after knowing they were positive and 40% continued socializing. This is after receiving the results of a positive test.
I don’t know what to do to these people - it seems to me there ought to be some sort of penalty/incentive to them and to their employers. Start by reimbursing employers for sick leave, then penalize them for asking people to come in.9 -
rheddmobile wrote: »spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
As a type 2 diabetic I’m tier 2, behind health care workers, nursing homes, and first responders, with 23 million in front of me. My husband with asthma is either in the same tier or nearly last, depending on whether asthma and sharing a household with a high risk person are considered risk factors.
My wife and I are both in the last S, with around 8 people behind us out of 100. So I guess we're going to be a LONG time before we see a vaccine.
Actually, I redid it. LOL, I was dead last person in line out of 100 in AZ based on being 56 years old, no preexisting conditions and a non-essential worker. Pinal, County AZ. It looks like it's not the same result every time. I'm from 8 from the end to the end.3 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »I know there were a few people here who tested positive and there may be more. Thought I'd share this. Free care kit for anyone who tested positive. Includes diffuser and essential oils.
https://amet.bio/bb-19/index_en.asp?
Why did someone flag this?? This isn't spam it is a legit website. We even share it with our patients who test positive in case they want to claim a free diffuser.
I admit, I have a visceral reaction when I see "essential oils" and "illness" in the same sentence, just because some folks make questionable claims about the effectiveness of oils vs. approved medications. It sounds like, though, this company is promoting a high-tech equivalent of rubbing menthol jelly on your chest with some other ingredients, in a soothing-the-congestion kind of way.6 -
well my guess on the vaccine is that after the initial few weeks and when both (or if) both are approved for use that it will be impossible to "queue" folks. Medical, first responders, nursing home folks etc will all go first and then most likely production will be ramping quickly so that it will become more available. My suspicion is that eventually I will get it either at work or at the grocery store similar to where I got / get the flu shot sometime in Mar or April.3
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spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I'm 50, and was 8th from the end, which I suspect is about county vs any difference between 59 and 50.
I can see the explanation for the kids, maybe -- one of the most important things is getting them back to school and preventing spread related to that, even if they themselves are unlikely to get sick (or seriously so). Don't get the young adults all being ahead given the risk factors. Eh, shrug, Gen X just doesn't matter once again! ;-)4 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I'm 50, and was 8th from the end, which I suspect is about county vs any difference between 59 and 50.
I can see the explanation for the kids, maybe -- one of the most important things is getting them back to school and preventing spread related to that, even if they themselves are unlikely to get sick (or seriously so). Don't get the young adults all being ahead given the risk factors. Eh, shrug, Gen X just doesn't matter once again! ;-)
My wife and I are Baby Boomers and we don't either! I'm not gonna complain, seriously. Neither of us has any preexisting conditions and neither are on meds and have great BP numbers, so things could be worse. Plus, we're in our little bubble in AZ.1 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I'm 50, and was 8th from the end, which I suspect is about county vs any difference between 59 and 50.
I can see the explanation for the kids, maybe -- one of the most important things is getting them back to school and preventing spread related to that, even if they themselves are unlikely to get sick (or seriously so). Don't get the young adults all being ahead given the risk factors. Eh, shrug, Gen X just doesn't matter once again! ;-)
Aren't young adults also doing a good deal of the spreading, not just kids? That could account for it.8 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I don't think it will be approved for children until after it is already dispersed for adults. It hasn't yet been approved for children, they are just starting gathering data and formal testing with children now is what I read.
Interesting, then the NYT needs to adjust their calculator because every kid are ahead of a bunch of adults.
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spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I'm 50, and was 8th from the end, which I suspect is about county vs any difference between 59 and 50.
I can see the explanation for the kids, maybe -- one of the most important things is getting them back to school and preventing spread related to that, even if they themselves are unlikely to get sick (or seriously so). Don't get the young adults all being ahead given the risk factors. Eh, shrug, Gen X just doesn't matter once again! ;-)
They know that the young ones will go out and party no matter what, while we Gen Xers are staying at home.
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spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I'm 50, and was 8th from the end, which I suspect is about county vs any difference between 59 and 50.
I can see the explanation for the kids, maybe -- one of the most important things is getting them back to school and preventing spread related to that, even if they themselves are unlikely to get sick (or seriously so). Don't get the young adults all being ahead given the risk factors. Eh, shrug, Gen X just doesn't matter once again! ;-)
That might be the situation with the parents, but it almost looks like to me like their parents are ahead as well. Funny, for you, you feel out because of GenX. I'm baby boomer and am forgotten as well.
I should also add that your assumption about county is correct. I go to 13 from the end if I put in a county with higher incidence.3 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I'm 50, and was 8th from the end, which I suspect is about county vs any difference between 59 and 50.
I can see the explanation for the kids, maybe -- one of the most important things is getting them back to school and preventing spread related to that, even if they themselves are unlikely to get sick (or seriously so). Don't get the young adults all being ahead given the risk factors. Eh, shrug, Gen X just doesn't matter once again! ;-)
That might be the situation with the parents, but it almost looks like to me like their parents are ahead as well. Funny, for you, you feel out because of GenX. I'm baby boomer and am forgotten as well.
At least the younger Boomers and all of Gen X - my two sisters are among the oldest Boomers (71 and 65) and the 65-year-old works at the post office. They're well ahead of me (55 years old, no comorbidities, work from home [not because of Covid, most of my team is remote anyway]).1 -
I'm behind 1.9 million in Scott county Minnesota (if I went home to get the vaccine--which I will not do).
I'm in Italy and vaccinating will begin in January, with medical personal, first responders, teachers, and high risk first. That's all fine with me. I'll be 66, I'm in good health, exercise, and am on statins (that's supposed to be a plus right now). By the time they get to me, it'll probably be spring and the virus here usually calms down, if things go as they did last year. I can wait until fall, and want to see how things go.4 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »I know there were a few people here who tested positive and there may be more. Thought I'd share this. Free care kit for anyone who tested positive. Includes diffuser and essential oils.
https://amet.bio/bb-19/index_en.asp?
Why did someone flag this?? This isn't spam it is a legit website. We even share it with our patients who test positive in case they want to claim a free diffuser.
Questionable claims of health benefits from a manufacturer/distributer?6 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »I know there were a few people here who tested positive and there may be more. Thought I'd share this. Free care kit for anyone who tested positive. Includes diffuser and essential oils.
https://amet.bio/bb-19/index_en.asp?
Why did someone flag this?? This isn't spam it is a legit website. We even share it with our patients who test positive in case they want to claim a free diffuser.
I admit, I have a visceral reaction when I see "essential oils" and "illness" in the same sentence, just because some folks make questionable claims about the effectiveness of oils vs. approved medications. It sounds like, though, this company is promoting a high-tech equivalent of rubbing menthol jelly on your chest with some other ingredients, in a soothing-the-congestion kind of way.
Ohh I see. I didn’t share it because I thought it actually has any medical benefit, I just thought people might want to claim a free diffuser and oils. I like anything free, haha.8 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I'm 50, and was 8th from the end, which I suspect is about county vs any difference between 59 and 50.
I can see the explanation for the kids, maybe -- one of the most important things is getting them back to school and preventing spread related to that, even if they themselves are unlikely to get sick (or seriously so). Don't get the young adults all being ahead given the risk factors. Eh, shrug, Gen X just doesn't matter once again! ;-)
Aren't young adults also doing a good deal of the spreading, not just kids? That could account for it.
I suspect young adults are also statistically over-represented in meet-the-public jobs that may not meet that "essential worker' definitions, also. (Thinking retail clerks, receptionist types . . . . - food service may be in "essential").
Obviously, there are people in those jobs who are older, too, of course.4 -
I’m 69. Retired.
I live in the country. Don’t go out much except grocery shopping and Target for groceries and necessities. I’ll forgo seeking the vaccine until it’s readily available for all. I’ve made it this far, others with greater exposure should get it first.14 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »https://news.yahoo.com/couple-arrested-boarding-flight-testing-040205355.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=algorithm
Couple arrested for boarding a plane knowing they were covid positive.
I'd like to see a lot more arrests for reckless endangerment:
"...were arrested on charges of second-degree reckless endangerment. They were released after posting bail, which was set at $1,000 each, and are now facing a $2,000 fine and up to a year behind bars if convicted."11 -
MikePfirrman wrote: »rheddmobile wrote: »spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
As a type 2 diabetic I’m tier 2, behind health care workers, nursing homes, and first responders, with 23 million in front of me. My husband with asthma is either in the same tier or nearly last, depending on whether asthma and sharing a household with a high risk person are considered risk factors.
My wife and I are both in the last S, with around 8 people behind us out of 100. So I guess we're going to be a LONG time before we see a vaccine.
Actually, I redid it. LOL, I was dead last person in line out of 100 in AZ based on being 56 years old, no preexisting conditions and a non-essential worker. Pinal, County AZ. It looks like it's not the same result every time. I'm from 8 from the end to the end.
I did it in my county. Was 12 from the beginning. Did it again in the county 2 miles over, which is likely where I would be vaccinated. I jumped to 21st.1 -
spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I'm 50, and was 8th from the end, which I suspect is about county vs any difference between 59 and 50.
I can see the explanation for the kids, maybe -- one of the most important things is getting them back to school and preventing spread related to that, even if they themselves are unlikely to get sick (or seriously so). Don't get the young adults all being ahead given the risk factors. Eh, shrug, Gen X just doesn't matter once again! ;-)
Neat idea, but the vaccine does not prevent people from getting and spreading the virus. They just don't get sick from it.... they become asymptomatic carriers, essentially.2 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I'm 50, and was 8th from the end, which I suspect is about county vs any difference between 59 and 50.
I can see the explanation for the kids, maybe -- one of the most important things is getting them back to school and preventing spread related to that, even if they themselves are unlikely to get sick (or seriously so). Don't get the young adults all being ahead given the risk factors. Eh, shrug, Gen X just doesn't matter once again! ;-)
Neat idea, but the vaccine does not prevent people from getting and spreading the virus. They just don't get sick from it.... they become asymptomatic carriers, essentially.
Maybe, from the discussion we had before, but that's not clear. But in any event it seems like the NYTimes piece is wrong about the order.2 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I'm 50, and was 8th from the end, which I suspect is about county vs any difference between 59 and 50.
I can see the explanation for the kids, maybe -- one of the most important things is getting them back to school and preventing spread related to that, even if they themselves are unlikely to get sick (or seriously so). Don't get the young adults all being ahead given the risk factors. Eh, shrug, Gen X just doesn't matter once again! ;-)
Neat idea, but the vaccine does not prevent people from getting and spreading the virus. They just don't get sick from it.... they become asymptomatic carriers, essentially.
I'm not sure that's been proven, i thought it was just being assumed because they can't prove yet the RNA vaccines sterilize the virus. Don't quote me on that though
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I'm 50, and was 8th from the end, which I suspect is about county vs any difference between 59 and 50.
I can see the explanation for the kids, maybe -- one of the most important things is getting them back to school and preventing spread related to that, even if they themselves are unlikely to get sick (or seriously so). Don't get the young adults all being ahead given the risk factors. Eh, shrug, Gen X just doesn't matter once again! ;-)
Neat idea, but the vaccine does not prevent people from getting and spreading the virus. They just don't get sick from it.... they become asymptomatic carriers, essentially.
I'm not sure that's been proven, i thought it was just being assumed because they can't prove yet the RNA vaccines sterilize the virus. Don't quote me on that though
Not every vaccine, but if you go back a few pages, at least one of them was described that was by the CEO. IIRC, another was also said to be that by the manufacturer.0 -
Im at the laundromat... currently 6 adults here and some kids. I am the only person wearing a mask over my nose and mouth. This is part of why this keeps going.17
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I'm 50, and was 8th from the end, which I suspect is about county vs any difference between 59 and 50.
I can see the explanation for the kids, maybe -- one of the most important things is getting them back to school and preventing spread related to that, even if they themselves are unlikely to get sick (or seriously so). Don't get the young adults all being ahead given the risk factors. Eh, shrug, Gen X just doesn't matter once again! ;-)
Neat idea, but the vaccine does not prevent people from getting and spreading the virus. They just don't get sick from it.... they become asymptomatic carriers, essentially.
I'm not sure that's been proven, i thought it was just being assumed because they can't prove yet the RNA vaccines sterilize the virus. Don't quote me on that though
Vaccines won't end Covid so keep wearing your mask, top health official says
Coronavirus vaccines will provide some light at the end of the tunnel, but they alone won't mean an end to Covid-19, one leading health official said Friday.
"I would like to say vaccines do not equal zero Covid," said Dr. Michael Ryan, the executive director of the World Health Organization's Health Emergencies Program. "Vaccines and vaccination will add a major, major, powerful tool to the toolkit that we have. "But by themselves they will not do the job."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/04/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html2 -
Here's the quote from the prior discussion here (back on 449):
"But the company’s top doctor has now warned this news doesn’t necessarily mean those who are vaccinated will be unable to transmit the virus to the unvaccinated.
'They do not show that they prevent you from potentially carrying this virus transiently and infecting others,' Moderna Chief Medical Officer Tal Zaks told Axios, adding the public should not “over-interpret the results” of the vaccine yet.
'I think we need to be careful, as we get vaccinated, not to over-interpret the results,' Dr Zaks said. 'When we start the deployment of this vaccine, we will not have sufficient concrete data to prove that this vaccine reduces transmission.'
'Do I believe that it reduces transmission? Absolutely yes, and I say this because of the science,' he added. 'But absent proof, I think it’s important that we don’t change behaviors solely on the basis of vaccination.'...
If it turns out that the vaccines only prevent serious complications of Covid-19 and do not prevent the transmission of the virus from one person to another, then that means “getting back to normal” will take longer and rely on a vast majority of the world population getting vaccinated."
What's odd is this is attributed to an Axios interview, but I couldn't find it (found a transcript of an interview, but not the bit in question), and the papers it is in besides this one [I took it from the independent.co.uk site] are the NY Post and Daily Mail. I tried to find something more about it in a more reputable paper and was not successful, although I don't see any reason to doubt that Zaks said what is reported.
In any case, this seems more consistent with kimny's memory, that it's still undetermined how much it will reduce transmission. I'd say it does cast more doubt on why they would be giving it to kids early on (as the piece on order indicated) in that kids generally don't get sick already now, with extremely rare exception, but as discussed many posts ago now, that order was already questionable in that it's yet to be approved for kids.5 -
T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »spiriteagle99 wrote: »An interesting interactive feature:
Find out where you are in line for the vaccine!
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
In the graphic of 100 people, I was 5th from last. The only aspect I was curious about is why "young adults" and "children" came earlier than a 59 year old given all the information about the young typically having a much less dangerous response to the virus.
I'm 50, and was 8th from the end, which I suspect is about county vs any difference between 59 and 50.
I can see the explanation for the kids, maybe -- one of the most important things is getting them back to school and preventing spread related to that, even if they themselves are unlikely to get sick (or seriously so). Don't get the young adults all being ahead given the risk factors. Eh, shrug, Gen X just doesn't matter once again! ;-)
Neat idea, but the vaccine does not prevent people from getting and spreading the virus. They just don't get sick from it.... they become asymptomatic carriers, essentially.
I'm not sure that's been proven, i thought it was just being assumed because they can't prove yet the RNA vaccines sterilize the virus. Don't quote me on that though
Vaccines won't end Covid so keep wearing your mask, top health official says
Coronavirus vaccines will provide some light at the end of the tunnel, but they alone won't mean an end to Covid-19, one leading health official said Friday.
"I would like to say vaccines do not equal zero Covid," said Dr. Michael Ryan, the executive director of the World Health Organization's Health Emergencies Program. "Vaccines and vaccination will add a major, major, powerful tool to the toolkit that we have. "But by themselves they will not do the job."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/04/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html
That seems obvious common sense to me - of course we will still have to take precautions and of course the disease will not just instantly (or maybe ever) go away.
No different to flu vaccine, whooping cough etc - obviously they are still around despite vaccination.
But much much less since we reduce the pool of virus transmisson and those who are vaccinated and still get it, it is much less severe
Is anyone really expecting an instant "smallpox is eradicated from the world" " result ????
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kshama2001 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »https://news.yahoo.com/couple-arrested-boarding-flight-testing-040205355.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab&utm_content=algorithm
Couple arrested for boarding a plane knowing they were covid positive.
I'd like to see a lot more arrests for reckless endangerment:
"...were arrested on charges of second-degree reckless endangerment. They were released after posting bail, which was set at $1,000 each, and are now facing a $2,000 fine and up to a year behind bars if convicted."
Yes the plane thing is over the top for sure but do you realize positive testing health care workers without symptoms can still pull shifts in Covid-19 isolation areas due to staffing shortages and to help protect the negative testing staff? What about doctors and nurses with someone at home with Covid-19?1
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