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snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.9 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.5 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.3 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.
Yeah it must be dependent on area - right now it’s not that hard to get an appointment once you are eligible here in the GTA. My coworker is 43 and getting hers tomorrow, and my daughter is only 27 and got hers yesterday. I mean you had to go online and wait in queue for like 2 hours - but once you were in the appointments were then booked with a couple of weeks max.1 -
Australia update: everyone over 50 (was over 70) now eligible as well as all previous groups: people with chronic medical conditions and occupational risk
2 brands being used: AZ and Pfizer.
AZ on hold now for under 50's.
Problem: pfizer had frozen temperature storage requirements and as yet is not available outside capital city hospitals (not in South Australia anyway)
This obviously leaves many younger people who are eligible but do not have reasonable access to get a vaccine.5 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.
Yeah it must be dependent on area - right now it’s not that hard to get an appointment once you are eligible here in the GTA. My coworker is 43 and getting hers tomorrow, and my daughter is only 27 and got hers yesterday. I mean you had to go online and wait in queue for like 2 hours - but once you were in the appointments were then booked with a couple of weeks max.
Totally. I'm in the north.2 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.
When I checked the city health department’s site yesterday, it said you can book your appointment either online or by calling a service phone to leave your number and they will call you back. They made it very clear to only call once even if you don’t hear from them soon, as they will only call people back when they have appointments available, and that can take more than a week after a person has called them. 2nd shots are extended to 8ish weeks, I think.
A friend recently found out that whenever new age groups are opened, they open online booking at midnight. I don’t know if that’s the case elsewhere, but at least here it’s definitely worth it to stay awake until midnight the night before, so you can book it as soon as the clock hits midnight and the opening date rolls in. A friend group with eligible people talked about it this week, and the difference between booking at midnight and in the morning was that the midnight bookers got appointments booked about a week earlier.3 -
Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?5
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I have allergies in the spring and fall. I just haven’t had any allergy problems since COVID and masks. I’m still wearing mine, and definitely will until warmer weather and the wind dies down. Then I’ll reassess.4
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
Ecstatic and nervous. Yay!!!!!!5 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
I’m vaccinated but I’m not up for breathing indoor air with unvaccinated people. The CDC is using resuming normal life as a carrot to get the vaccine hesitant to take the vaccine, and I appreciate that, but statistically it’s not time yet. Depending on whose study you look at, the vaccine prevents about 19 out of 20 symptomatic cases (CDC cherrypicked a study that found 97%). I have played rpgs with dice for enough years to know that a 1 in 20 chance comes up on those dice all too often. And more than half of the people in my state are not vaccinated. Mississippi which borders us has only 25% of people vaccinated, and a map of Memphis cases right now is exactly a map showing where rich and poor people live - everything except the wealthy central corridor is brick red on the Covid per population map, hundred of cases, in fact just as many cases per day as last fall when everything was locked down. Everyone says “cases are dropping” but that’s only compared to the horror show that was January, it’s not compared to okay. Because there is still a boatload of Covid here.
In addition, with the U.K., which is more vaccinated than the US, suddenly seeing a massive spike in parts of the country where the Indian variant has arrived, I’m gonna hang out a bit until we know more about whether or not the vaccine is protective against the variants.
I’ve managed a whole year without going inside a building full of disease ridden people who don’t care whether anyone else lives or dies. It’s actually been kind of nice, since I used to get coughed and sneezed on every single time I went anywhere. My mom and I had a picnic at the park today. I enjoyed my food and I didn’t have to worry about ventilation and people who are afraid of science,14 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
I'm not fully vaxxed yet, so I'm going to keep wearing a mask until then. I don't wear a mask outdoors anyway. I'm not hanging out with people other than my family when I'm outside, so I haven't needed to.
TBH, I'm REALLY gonna miss having the personal space when they stop social distancing though (I prefer not having random strangers pushing up against me in line or brushing up against me in a row of seats, for example.)
I like people, but I love my personal space. Never loved crowded, stuffy spaces pre-covid, but covid made my aversion worse. I'm not gonna want to be back in crowded, poorly ventilated spaces for awhile...15 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Chances are good you will be protected after the first dose - 80% of people are.
The difference in immunity between the first and second doses has been repeatedly misrepresented by the press and others, including Dr. Fauci, who should know better. There’s no evidence for “partial immunity” after the first dose - that isn’t what any study has tested for. Studies group people into statistics, but individual people are not to be confused with statistics. About 80% of people have an immune response after the first dose. About one in 10, especially people in treatment for cancer, don’t until after the second dose. Some, depending on which vax about 1 in 10, will never develop immunity from the vaccine.
That’s the reasoning behind the U.K. delaying second doses and getting a first dose into as many people as possible, and it has worked. It’s simple math. You have 20 doses, and 20 people. If you give one dose to everybody, you end up with 16 immune. If you give two doses to half the people, you end up with 9 immune. In the short term, it’s better to have 16 than nine, and wait until you can give the second dose to all 20 - at which time you will pick up an additional two people, and have 18 immune.6 -
It seems we have an increasing number of the India virus in some areas of London and the North West - Burry I think it is. The response is to have localised intense testing, even teams going door to door to catch all cases. Also its possible the length of time between vaccine will be shortened in these areas from the up to 12 weeks but I've not heard what the suggested period will be. The rate of transmission with this viral form is still being discussed, its thought be be higher/faster than the original form or what was known as the Kent variant.
This is happening just as more steps are due to be taken to "open up the country" from Monday 17th. Local lock downs are not ruled out.
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
I don't support it inside. In my state we have too many Covid deniers who won't get vaccinated. I'll continue to eat outside only which I've already been doing all along since most of the restaurants here have heaters. As a point of reference I've been fully vaccinated (Pfizer) since the end of March.
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snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.
A friend recently found out that whenever new age groups are opened, they open online booking at midnight. I don’t know if that’s the case elsewhere, but at least here it’s definitely worth it to stay awake until midnight the night before, so you can book it as soon as the clock hits midnight and the opening date rolls in. A friend group with eligible people talked about it this week, and the difference between booking at midnight and in the morning was that the midnight bookers got appointments booked about a week earlier.
I tried that
The day my age group became eligible I went on the booking database at 6 AM (I'm up anyway) but my qualifying category wasn't in the list yet. I think the database opens at 8 AM so when I made another attempt at 8:30 when I got to work, it was there.
The database can only offer booking based on local availability however. We have had several periods of multiple weeks without any appointments at all because we've had no vaccine supply and they wouldn't open up for booking until the health unit knew when more shots would arrive.3 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
Keeping mine on a bit longer, thank you.
I went to our local nursery to buy plants this week and despite there being a huge sign out front WEAR MASKS about 90% did not, including workers. JMO but I don't think we're out of the woods yet. 
Wanted to add most of the people I know, plus myself, are fully vaccinated. But I still wouldn't take the chance; besides the children and younger people are not. I'm not afraid for myself but for others.
People are still dying, even in our small state. 8 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
I'm going by the guidelines of the scientists and any local rules. Why would one do anything else?
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snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.
When I checked the city health department’s site yesterday, it said you can book your appointment either online or by calling a service phone to leave your number and they will call you back. They made it very clear to only call once even if you don’t hear from them soon, as they will only call people back when they have appointments available, and that can take more than a week after a person has called them. 2nd shots are extended to 8ish weeks, I think.
A friend recently found out that whenever new age groups are opened, they open online booking at midnight. I don’t know if that’s the case elsewhere, but at least here it’s definitely worth it to stay awake until midnight the night before, so you can book it as soon as the clock hits midnight and the opening date rolls in. A friend group with eligible people talked about it this week, and the difference between booking at midnight and in the morning was that the midnight bookers got appointments booked about a week earlier.
Yeah we did that here for my daughter. She got a shot booked on the main provincial site but it was a bit of a drive and two weeks away. We have “pop up” clinics that are local and only book a week in advance - so I logged on right before midnight and right at 12 a whole day of open slots opened up 5 minutes from our house 7 days away so I booked that and cancelled the other one. She went on her lunch break and was there and back without having to miss any work.
That’s why I am so confused about people posting that they can only get Pfizer in limited places in Australia (and maybe other countries). Here they are giving it everywhere - pharmacies, pop up clinics, hockey rinks, community centres, workplaces. There must be a way to transport it because we are doing it here.5 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.
When I checked the city health department’s site yesterday, it said you can book your appointment either online or by calling a service phone to leave your number and they will call you back. They made it very clear to only call once even if you don’t hear from them soon, as they will only call people back when they have appointments available, and that can take more than a week after a person has called them. 2nd shots are extended to 8ish weeks, I think.
A friend recently found out that whenever new age groups are opened, they open online booking at midnight. I don’t know if that’s the case elsewhere, but at least here it’s definitely worth it to stay awake until midnight the night before, so you can book it as soon as the clock hits midnight and the opening date rolls in. A friend group with eligible people talked about it this week, and the difference between booking at midnight and in the morning was that the midnight bookers got appointments booked about a week earlier.
Yeah we did that here for my daughter. She got a shot booked on the main provincial site but it was a bit of a drive and two weeks away. We have “pop up” clinics that are local and only book a week in advance - so I logged on right before midnight and right at 12 a whole day of open slots opened up 5 minutes from our house 7 days away so I booked that and cancelled the other one. She went on her lunch break and was there and back without having to miss any work.
That’s why I am so confused about people posting that they can only get Pfizer in limited places in Australia (and maybe other countries). Here they are giving it everywhere - pharmacies, pop up clinics, hockey rinks, community centres, workplaces. There must be a way to transport it because we are doing it here.
The real question is why enough doses aren't arriving in Europe---they were ordered.4 -
rheddmobile wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Chances are good you will be protected after the first dose - 80% of people are.
The difference in immunity between the first and second doses has been repeatedly misrepresented by the press and others, including Dr. Fauci, who should know better. There’s no evidence for “partial immunity” after the first dose - that isn’t what any study has tested for. Studies group people into statistics, but individual people are not to be confused with statistics. About 80% of people have an immune response after the first dose. About one in 10, especially people in treatment for cancer, don’t until after the second dose. Some, depending on which vax about 1 in 10, will never develop immunity from the vaccine.
That’s the reasoning behind the U.K. delaying second doses and getting a first dose into as many people as possible, and it has worked. It’s simple math. You have 20 doses, and 20 people. If you give one dose to everybody, you end up with 16 immune. If you give two doses to half the people, you end up with 9 immune. In the short term, it’s better to have 16 than nine, and wait until you can give the second dose to all 20 - at which time you will pick up an additional two people, and have 18 immune.
this is VERY interesting! do you have any good links that explain this (going to look myself, but thought I'd ask in case you have anything)?
here in Ontario they just cancelled all public events through September (we are currently not allowed to leave our houses - a stay at home order that they extend every two weeks and are expected to continue to do so through the summer) with the message that the majority only have one shot so we are not protected until the fall. if this is true, it could change everything - yet hasn't once been mentioned my the news or "health experts" which is interesting.5 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
I think this guidance was premature. There's still a lot of virus out there. We do mitigation testing at my workplace, and still have people testing positive, including fully vaccinated people. Those fully vaccinated did not get very sick, had mild symptoms, but some passed it on to unvaccinated family members, who did get quite ill.
It's going to make it really hard for individual businesses to enforce mask rules. People can just say they are vaccinated, even if they are not.
I think that in my area, where there is really high mask compliance, we'll see a very slow change, not people just suddenly flinging off their masks.
I know I'm still going to wear mine in grocery stores, at work, and any indoor public places. Outside for a walk, no.9 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
I think this guidance was premature. There's still a lot of virus out there. We do mitigation testing at my workplace, and still have people testing positive, including fully vaccinated people. Those fully vaccinated did not get very sick, had mild symptoms, but some passed it on to unvaccinated family members, who did get quite ill.
It's going to make it really hard for individual businesses to enforce mask rules. People can just say they are vaccinated, even if they are not.
I think that in my area, where there is really high mask compliance, we'll see a very slow change, not people just suddenly flinging off their masks.
I know I'm still going to wear mine in grocery stores, at work, and any indoor public places. Outside for a walk, no.
Individual businesses can still require masks.
From the CDC:
For now, if you’ve been fully vaccinated:
You will still need to follow guidance at your workplace and local businesses.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html5 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
I think this guidance was premature. There's still a lot of virus out there. We do mitigation testing at my workplace, and still have people testing positive, including fully vaccinated people. Those fully vaccinated did not get very sick, had mild symptoms, but some passed it on to unvaccinated family members, who did get quite ill.
It's going to make it really hard for individual businesses to enforce mask rules. People can just say they are vaccinated, even if they are not.
I think that in my area, where there is really high mask compliance, we'll see a very slow change, not people just suddenly flinging off their masks.
I know I'm still going to wear mine in grocery stores, at work, and any indoor public places. Outside for a walk, no.
Individual businesses can still require masks.
From the CDC:
For now, if you’ve been fully vaccinated:
You will still need to follow guidance at your workplace and local businesses.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html
Yes, but it's going to make it more difficult for those businesses. They are going to have to deal with more arguments from people, as they no longer have CDC guidelines and local ordinances to point to. They are going to hear a lot of "But, I'm vaccinated, and the CDC said..."
I understand it's in the fine print that you still need to comply with workplace and business guidelines, but that's not in the headlines that people are reading.5 -
My 15-year-old niece got her first dose yesterday! She’s the last person in our close family group to get the vaccine. Her parents were SO happy they approved the Pfizer vaccine for 12-15 year olds now. They were frustrated that she had been just below the previously approved 16-and-older group.13
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Well the CDC says it is now okay to not wear masks outside or indoors unless in super close quarters like a bus/train. How does everyone feel about going maskless now?
My husband, who has been strict about safety the entire time since March 2020, has declared tomorrow is Chinese Buffet time! We were also already planning haircuts for the first time since pre-COVID. We have a place we went regularly (and for every major holiday or life event) that we haven't been to in over a year. Science says it is ok, we trust the science (Specifically I trust Fauci). I'm likely still wearing mine while not actively eating, but will feel ok being in a building and eating.
Interested to see what my workplace will do without CDC guidance to point to for mask and distancing. Not going back to a gym yet, but I am going to start inviting friends to walk with me again on weekends. And we will be hosting our joint birthday party with friends next month unless anything major changes.
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snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.
When I checked the city health department’s site yesterday, it said you can book your appointment either online or by calling a service phone to leave your number and they will call you back. They made it very clear to only call once even if you don’t hear from them soon, as they will only call people back when they have appointments available, and that can take more than a week after a person has called them. 2nd shots are extended to 8ish weeks, I think.
A friend recently found out that whenever new age groups are opened, they open online booking at midnight. I don’t know if that’s the case elsewhere, but at least here it’s definitely worth it to stay awake until midnight the night before, so you can book it as soon as the clock hits midnight and the opening date rolls in. A friend group with eligible people talked about it this week, and the difference between booking at midnight and in the morning was that the midnight bookers got appointments booked about a week earlier.
Yeah we did that here for my daughter. She got a shot booked on the main provincial site but it was a bit of a drive and two weeks away. We have “pop up” clinics that are local and only book a week in advance - so I logged on right before midnight and right at 12 a whole day of open slots opened up 5 minutes from our house 7 days away so I booked that and cancelled the other one. She went on her lunch break and was there and back without having to miss any work.
That’s why I am so confused about people posting that they can only get Pfizer in limited places in Australia (and maybe other countries). Here they are giving it everywhere - pharmacies, pop up clinics, hockey rinks, community centres, workplaces. There must be a way to transport it because we are doing it here.
The real question is why enough doses aren't arriving in Europe---they were ordered.
Yeah I am shocked about that. We had a super slow roll out compared to the US and we seem to have loads of vaccine now. Did Europe maybe order Astra Zeneca first and then decide to switch to Pfizer after the side effects or something? I think Canada went all in on all the vaccines from the beginning to hedge our bets, but Pfizer is the one we have the most of and has the most regular deliveries coming in right now. I think it is also the one we will be sticking with going forward, from my understanding we have already secured booster doses for the next few years in case we need them.4 -
snowflake954 wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »I'll give a report on Italy. We're moving along with vaccinations. Doing 65+ now and I'm in that group, so last day of May is my appointment for 1st dose--Pfizer. Husband lucked out and is all done (slipped into a cancellation slot).
Our problem is: vaccines ordered are not arriving as promised. AZ is especially the culprit, and the UE is cancelling future contracts with them. Pfizer arrivals are slow too and it was announced that instead of receiving the 2nd dose 2 weeks after it will be extended to 40 days. Sigh, that'll effect me. Better half than nothing.
COVID is slowing here. As the days get longer there are fewer infections and rules are being loosened. For now bars and restaurants have to have tables outside and everything must close at 9:30pm and everyone must go home. Soon this will be moved to 11:00pm, and people will be seated inside again. Masks and distancing are still required. Schools are open, as are museums. Soon theaters, cinemas, gyms, and pools etc. will open with caution. We now have a 3.5% transmission rate. Deaths are way down. So, things are looking up.
I've kept up with my exercising since October--stretching and yoga at home, and powerwalking, running for 45 min every morning around the park. I think we've missed 5 days, for rain, in 7 and a half months. However, I miss the pool. I can't wait until it opens, and I can get back in the gym for some strength training.
I just got a message from the health dept. My 1st dose of Pfizer is confirmed for May 29th. The 2nd dose has been pushed back to July 3rd. I was expecting it, but I'm just so disappointed now that it's happened. I'd like to tell them to shove it.
Our second shot was extended to 16 weeks. I got my first March 3 and my second was booked for April 8 - then they emailed me to say it was pushed back to June 28.
I was a bit pissed at first, but after looking into it I am now 100% on board with getting everyone their first shot more quickly by extending the second dose. I wouldn't want to get my second shot while other at risk people were still waiting for their first.
I am surprised though that you are only getting yours now. I thought Ontario was bad with the rollout, but we are down to the 30+ age group next week here and everyone 18+ is supposed to be eligible by the end of May (but I guess that is an effect of giving only the first dose).
Our third wave surge seems to have peaked so hopefully now that about 50% of our population has their first dose the worst is behind us.
"Eligible" and "vaccine appointment availability" are two very different things, however. We've been going in two week spurts here because supply has been so limited, although supposedly that will improve in June. And I'm hoping they're right because in July the second shots will be due for the March patients.
When I checked the city health department’s site yesterday, it said you can book your appointment either online or by calling a service phone to leave your number and they will call you back. They made it very clear to only call once even if you don’t hear from them soon, as they will only call people back when they have appointments available, and that can take more than a week after a person has called them. 2nd shots are extended to 8ish weeks, I think.
A friend recently found out that whenever new age groups are opened, they open online booking at midnight. I don’t know if that’s the case elsewhere, but at least here it’s definitely worth it to stay awake until midnight the night before, so you can book it as soon as the clock hits midnight and the opening date rolls in. A friend group with eligible people talked about it this week, and the difference between booking at midnight and in the morning was that the midnight bookers got appointments booked about a week earlier.
That’s why I am so confused about people posting that they can only get Pfizer in limited places in Australia (and maybe other countries). Here they are giving it everywhere - pharmacies, pop up clinics, hockey rinks, community centres, workplaces. There must be a way to transport it because we are doing it here.
I assume they use some sort of portable freezers - or have access to get the vaccines/ return the vaccines to frozen, say, at the local hospital or blood bank.
Because it can be at regular temps for some hours, I'm not sure exactly how long.
Australia is very spread out - meaning outside of capital cities , the regional population is very low density and widely dispersed - many a long way from a major hospital or blood service.
Other issue is plain availability - AZ is domestically produced, pfizerr has to be imported. We have less supplies of Pfizer- not enough to be financially viable to spread around the country.5 -
Where I live, the governor lifted all requirements for masks as of May 1. All store and restaurant employees are still wearing them where I shop. About 2/3 or 3/4? Of customers are still wearing them. My bank replaced the sign that said “Masks required inside” with one the exact same size, same color that says “Masks encouraged inside”.
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NVM/oops.3
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