April 2020 Monthly Running Challenge

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  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    @skippygirlsmom Hahaha. It's always fun when the doctor says "yuck."

    It is right up there with "uh oh" and "that does not look good." But still better than "oops"
  • hamsterwheel6
    hamsterwheel6 Posts: 544 Member
    @skippygirlsmom @katharmonic Thanks,
    I have garmin that syncs to mfp, so mfp uses that to calculate the exercise calories it gives me.
    I haven’t really changed much, and the weight has started creeping up about I guess the last couple of months or so.
    Like I said, I have been eating more but then I’ve also increase the miles, so I should maintain at the very least. I’ll start with eating only half those back and see but I know I haven’t been eating all of them or maybe I have and am miscalculating..
    Ugh who knows. Don’t really feel bloated just not good.
    And the foot! 😖
    I really should go for a ride and quit the feeling sorry for myself 😐


    HHMM so you know that the exercise calories is correct, I really thought that would be it. Are you eating more carbs or something than you normally would? You might also be holding on to more water if you are increasing your runs.
    Could be the carbs...and the water..
    I’ll keep more track ...thanks!
    How’s the arm?
  • hamsterwheel6
    hamsterwheel6 Posts: 544 Member
    I’m feeling bummed out. I’ve gained 4lbs and for many it might seem not much, but in my small short frame, I can tell. I don’t get it as I’ve been ruining, more miles in fact. I have been eating more, but not more than mfp + exercise calories.

    Things to check...

    1) I have noticed that occasionally MFP counts exercise twice. Double-check your entries and make sure that is not happening. I have not figured out why/pattern or anything yet. Just occasionally I look and I have an entry doubled. (I too use a Garmin, just as you said you do)

    2) Make sure you have not gotten a bit lazy or sloppy in your portion control. If you grab a little extra, make sure you are still recording that. I think human nature is for us to get less precise with time

    3) Check your macros - is your diet composition still about the same? If your macros are changed your daily calorie intact might have to change to match that

    4) What about your non-exercising time? Are you less active than you were? Esply during this lockdown?

    5) I know nothing about this being biologically (and in all ways) male, but is it related to your cycle? I am told some woman retain water during parts of it.

    All that being said, you probably just need to adjust your non-exercise calorie count down a little and carry on. That is my best guess right now.

    Hey there!

    Ok so,

    1)No double entries...though I wonder how accurate Garmin is?
    2)That could be. I still measure everything, but the little bites here and there could add up. I usually will ‘quick add’ calories to cover that. I will be more mindful.
    3)I think the carbs have increased
    4)not much difference in non exercise time. Other than not going to work, which is not that much more movement
    5)I wish it was that lol.

    Sadly I’m already at the lowest allowed (1200) for non exercise calories so. And I have to have that much at least. I’ll try to get more precise..in the counting
    thanks much!


  • hamsterwheel6
    hamsterwheel6 Posts: 544 Member
    okay, thread... something y'all might need to be thinking about. I notice that some of you go through periods where you can not run, and you back off and then suddenly can run again. I SUSPECT that some of you are not allowing for enough recovery. There is a way to check this. Most of us wear a Fitbit, Garmin, or other wrist-based heart rate tracker full time. This is a good thing, assuming you are wearing it properly of course.

    Start looking at the graph of your RESTING HEART RATE. If you see that it is climbing and not coming back down then you are not fully recovered and you need to think about tossing in a rest day or other change to your training. Now your resting HR will vary some, but only like a few BPM. If it is like say 7 more than normal, skip your run that day. :)

    It is a trailing indicator in that its a day behind, but it can tell you if you are allowing enough recovery time.

    I am not a doctor, and I have never played one on TV, so buyer beware, YMMV and none of this applies in Nebraska of course.

    Hmm...I’ll check!
  • katharmonic
    katharmonic Posts: 5,720 Member
    shanaber wrote: »
    @katharmonic - I am just amazed at you getting out and running another 9 miles this morning after yesterday! Wow you are a rockstar!
    I hope Stella's paw is ok. Not sure how they are handling vet visits in your area but I had Hobbes to the vet on Friday and they don't even let you go in. They came out and took him inside while I waited in the car. The vet actually came out to talk to me though when they brought him back. To be fair we have known her for years and my daughter worked there when she was in HS so she wanted to check in as much with me as to discuss the pup.
    Aw, thanks.

    That's what I gather they are doing here too. It will be tricky if she needs to go in because I usually have to pre-sedate her with meds, muzzle her just in case, and help hold her down while sweet talking her to keep her calm. She's much better than she used to be when I first adopted her and she screamed like an unholy demon and tried to bite anyone within her reach. Now she grumbles and complains the whole time but is able to be handled. Her paw seems not too bad, a little limpy but we'll see how it is tomorrow. I'm hoping she just stepped on something and bruised or scratched it a bit. She's a tough girl so I'm not too worried unless it gets worse.

    Hope Hobbes is doing well!

    @skippygirlsmom that sounds bad! Hope it improves soon, ouch!
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    I’m feeling bummed out. I’ve gained 4lbs and for many it might seem not much, but in my small short frame, I can tell. I don’t get it as I’ve been ruining, more miles in fact. I have been eating more, but not more than mfp + exercise calories.

    Things to check...

    1) I have noticed that occasionally MFP counts exercise twice. Double-check your entries and make sure that is not happening. I have not figured out why/pattern or anything yet. Just occasionally I look and I have an entry doubled. (I too use a Garmin, just as you said you do)

    2) Make sure you have not gotten a bit lazy or sloppy in your portion control. If you grab a little extra, make sure you are still recording that. I think human nature is for us to get less precise with time

    3) Check your macros - is your diet composition still about the same? If your macros are changed your daily calorie intact might have to change to match that

    4) What about your non-exercising time? Are you less active than you were? Esply during this lockdown?

    5) I know nothing about this being biologically (and in all ways) male, but is it related to your cycle? I am told some woman retain water during parts of it.

    All that being said, you probably just need to adjust your non-exercise calorie count down a little and carry on. That is my best guess right now.

    Hey there!

    Ok so,

    1)No double entries...though I wonder how accurate Garmin is?
    2)That could be. I still measure everything, but the little bites here and there could add up. I usually will ‘quick add’ calories to cover that. I will be more mindful.
    3)I think the carbs have increased
    4)not much difference in non exercise time. Other than not going to work, which is not that much more movement
    5)I wish it was that lol.

    Sadly I’m already at the lowest allowed (1200) for non exercise calories so. And I have to have that much at least. I’ll try to get more precise..in the counting
    thanks much!


    As for how accurate Garmin is, I think it is still a little bit optimistic. At least in my case, I have to make sure I have a little leftover most days and I am on maintenance now.

    Maybe only eat back like 75% of your calories for a bit and see how that goes?
  • kgirlhart
    kgirlhart Posts: 5,155 Member
    April Goal: 100 Miles

    4/1: 5.16 miles
    4/2: 5.15 miles
    4/5: 9.02 miles
    4/7: 6.22 miles
    4/8: 5.51 miles
    4/9: 5.26 miles
    4/12: 10.2 miles
    4/14: 6.23 miles
    4/15: 5.15 miles
    4/16: 5.20 miles
    4/18: 5.2 🎂 miles
    4/19:  9.55 miles

    77.84/100 miles completed for April

    389.24/1000 miles for Run the Year Team Pavement Pounders


    I ran 9.5 miles this morning.  It was pretty  warm compared to yesterday,  but nice for running in shorts and a tank top. I tried to keep it easy and had a nice long, slow run.
    I wasn't sure what I would run today since I ran yesterday and usually take Saturdays as rest days. But I did sign up for the Humor Un-canceled 15K for today so I decided that I would play it by ear and if I felt good I would run at least 15k. I felt really good too so I was glad I got out there.

    Thanks again for all the birthday wishes   @shanaber, @rheddmobile, @faebert, and @hamsterwheel6.

    @avidkeo and @PastorVincent I'm pretty sure my HM in May will be canceled,  but I am still trying to be positive.  They are going to start slowly easing some of the restrictions in Texas and I do hope they don't do too much too soon. I guess it is easy to get your hopes up when you are in a less populated area. So far in my county we have had 36 people tested. There has been 1 positive result, 1 test is still pending and the other 34 have come back negative.  And the only positive we had was an elderly man, but he was not hospitalized and he has been recovered for over 14 days. But I am prepared for the face to be canceled,  but I am also planning to run a HM that day regardless. 



    exercise.png



    2020 races:
    5/16/20: Run for 57th AHC Half Marathon 🤞
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,204 Member
    okay, thread... something y'all might need to be thinking about. I notice that some of you go through periods where you can not run, and you back off and then suddenly can run again. I SUSPECT that some of you are not allowing for enough recovery. There is a way to check this. Most of us wear a Fitbit, Garmin, or other wrist-based heart rate tracker full time. This is a good thing, assuming you are wearing it properly of course.

    Start looking at the graph of your RESTING HEART RATE. If you see that it is climbing and not coming back down then you are not fully recovered and you need to think about tossing in a rest day or other change to your training. Now your resting HR will vary some, but only like a few BPM. If it is like say 7 more than normal, skip your run that day. :)

    It is a trailing indicator in that its a day behind, but it can tell you if you are allowing enough recovery time.

    I am not a doctor, and I have never played one on TV, so buyer beware, YMMV and none of this applies in Nebraska of course.

    Interesting to note that when I have binges, my RHR goes up as well for a couple of days. I find that fascinating!
  • hamsterwheel6
    hamsterwheel6 Posts: 544 Member
    I’m feeling bummed out. I’ve gained 4lbs and for many it might seem not much, but in my small short frame, I can tell. I don’t get it as I’ve been ruining, more miles in fact. I have been eating more, but not more than mfp + exercise calories.

    Things to check...

    1) I have noticed that occasionally MFP counts exercise twice. Double-check your entries and make sure that is not happening. I have not figured out why/pattern or anything yet. Just occasionally I look and I have an entry doubled. (I too use a Garmin, just as you said you do)

    2) Make sure you have not gotten a bit lazy or sloppy in your portion control. If you grab a little extra, make sure you are still recording that. I think human nature is for us to get less precise with time

    3) Check your macros - is your diet composition still about the same? If your macros are changed your daily calorie intact might have to change to match that

    4) What about your non-exercising time? Are you less active than you were? Esply during this lockdown?

    5) I know nothing about this being biologically (and in all ways) male, but is it related to your cycle? I am told some woman retain water during parts of it.

    All that being said, you probably just need to adjust your non-exercise calorie count down a little and carry on. That is my best guess right now.

    Hey there!

    Ok so,

    1)No double entries...though I wonder how accurate Garmin is?
    2)That could be. I still measure everything, but the little bites here and there could add up. I usually will ‘quick add’ calories to cover that. I will be more mindful.
    3)I think the carbs have increased
    4)not much difference in non exercise time. Other than not going to work, which is not that much more movement
    5)I wish it was that lol.

    Sadly I’m already at the lowest allowed (1200) for non exercise calories so. And I have to have that much at least. I’ll try to get more precise..in the counting
    thanks much!


    As for how accurate Garmin is, I think it is still a little bit optimistic. At least in my case, I have to make sure I have a little leftover most days and I am on maintenance now.

    Maybe only eat back like 75% of your calories for a bit and see how that goes?

    I can do 50-75%. Let’s see how it goes😀
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    okay, thread... something y'all might need to be thinking about. I notice that some of you go through periods where you can not run, and you back off and then suddenly can run again. I SUSPECT that some of you are not allowing for enough recovery. There is a way to check this. Most of us wear a Fitbit, Garmin, or other wrist-based heart rate tracker full time. This is a good thing, assuming you are wearing it properly of course.

    Start looking at the graph of your RESTING HEART RATE. If you see that it is climbing and not coming back down then you are not fully recovered and you need to think about tossing in a rest day or other change to your training. Now your resting HR will vary some, but only like a few BPM. If it is like say 7 more than normal, skip your run that day. :)

    It is a trailing indicator in that its a day behind, but it can tell you if you are allowing enough recovery time.

    I am not a doctor, and I have never played one on TV, so buyer beware, YMMV and none of this applies in Nebraska of course.

    Interesting to note that when I have binges, my RHR goes up as well for a couple of days. I find that fascinating!

    That might be stress related?
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,204 Member
    I’m feeling bummed out. I’ve gained 4lbs and for many it might seem not much, but in my small short frame, I can tell. I don’t get it as I’ve been ruining, more miles in fact. I have been eating more, but not more than mfp + exercise calories.

    Things to check...

    1) I have noticed that occasionally MFP counts exercise twice. Double-check your entries and make sure that is not happening. I have not figured out why/pattern or anything yet. Just occasionally I look and I have an entry doubled. (I too use a Garmin, just as you said you do)

    2) Make sure you have not gotten a bit lazy or sloppy in your portion control. If you grab a little extra, make sure you are still recording that. I think human nature is for us to get less precise with time

    3) Check your macros - is your diet composition still about the same? If your macros are changed your daily calorie intact might have to change to match that

    4) What about your non-exercising time? Are you less active than you were? Esply during this lockdown?

    5) I know nothing about this being biologically (and in all ways) male, but is it related to your cycle? I am told some woman retain water during parts of it.

    All that being said, you probably just need to adjust your non-exercise calorie count down a little and carry on. That is my best guess right now.

    Hey there!

    Ok so,

    1)No double entries...though I wonder how accurate Garmin is?
    2)That could be. I still measure everything, but the little bites here and there could add up. I usually will ‘quick add’ calories to cover that. I will be more mindful.
    3)I think the carbs have increased
    4)not much difference in non exercise time. Other than not going to work, which is not that much more movement
    5)I wish it was that lol.

    Sadly I’m already at the lowest allowed (1200) for non exercise calories so. And I have to have that much at least. I’ll try to get more precise..in the counting
    thanks much!


    Adding to this, are you weighing EVERYTHING? as in pre packaged items? If you weigh things like bread you will see the pack says 140 calories for 2 slices (74g), but when you weigh the slices they are actually 82g which is an increase of 10%

    I now weigh everything, because packaging lies. I had some instant noodles the other day, package said 141g, the actual weight was 150g. And when it's a high fat product like that, it makes a difference.

    Also have you got negative adjustments on? This is something I've struggled with for ages, but I now use. Because on some days I don't burn as much as MFP thinks I will with the exercise done in the morning. Negative adjustments mean I'm going to be much closer to my deficit.

    Finally how much are you aiming to lose? Trying to lose too fast (eg you only have 5lb to go, but are set at 2lb a week) can cause you to stagnate - mostly because you aren't eating enough calories, and you don't have the stores anymore. You start using muscle for energy and it can cause a whole lot of issues. Make sure you set an appropriate goal, remember it's a marathon, not a sprint.

    Oh and second finally, are you tracking daily and watching the trend? Small losses can be hidden in weekly weigh ins. Mobycarp taught me how useful tracking the trend is. I ignore the daily weights now and just look at the trend. Going down, yay. Going up, boo.

    Hugs, it really sux.
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,204 Member
    kgirlhart wrote: »
    April Goal: 100 Miles

    4/1: 5.16 miles
    4/2: 5.15 miles
    4/5: 9.02 miles
    4/7: 6.22 miles
    4/8: 5.51 miles
    4/9: 5.26 miles
    4/12: 10.2 miles
    4/14: 6.23 miles
    4/15: 5.15 miles
    4/16: 5.20 miles
    4/18: 5.2 🎂 miles
    4/19:  9.55 miles

    77.84/100 miles completed for April

    389.24/1000 miles for Run the Year Team Pavement Pounders


    I ran 9.5 miles this morning.  It was pretty  warm compared to yesterday,  but nice for running in shorts and a tank top. I tried to keep it easy and had a nice long, slow run.
    I wasn't sure what I would run today since I ran yesterday and usually take Saturdays as rest days. But I did sign up for the Humor Un-canceled 15K for today so I decided that I would play it by ear and if I felt good I would run at least 15k. I felt really good too so I was glad I got out there.

    Thanks again for all the birthday wishes   @shanaber, @rheddmobile, @faebert, and @hamsterwheel6.

    @avidkeo and @PastorVincent I'm pretty sure my HM in May will be canceled,  but I am still trying to be positive.  They are going to start slowly easing some of the restrictions in Texas and I do hope they don't do too much too soon. I guess it is easy to get your hopes up when you are in a less populated area. So far in my county we have had 36 people tested. There has been 1 positive result, 1 test is still pending and the other 34 have come back negative.  And the only positive we had was an elderly man, but he was not hospitalized and he has been recovered for over 14 days. But I am prepared for the face to be canceled,  but I am also planning to run a HM that day regardless. 



    exercise.png



    2020 races:
    5/16/20: Run for 57th AHC Half Marathon 🤞

    Sorry, I was feeling really blah when I wrote that doom and gloom. I say plan for the half marathon, and if it's cancelled, do it anyway! My marathon isn't till July, and I'm planning on running it regardless. You are a rock star!
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,204 Member
    edited April 2020


    Avidkeo wrote: »
    okay, thread... something y'all might need to be thinking about. I notice that some of you go through periods where you can not run, and you back off and then suddenly can run again. I SUSPECT that some of you are not allowing for enough recovery. There is a way to check this. Most of us wear a Fitbit, Garmin, or other wrist-based heart rate tracker full time. This is a good thing, assuming you are wearing it properly of course.

    Start looking at the graph of your RESTING HEART RATE. If you see that it is climbing and not coming back down then you are not fully recovered and you need to think about tossing in a rest day or other change to your training. Now your resting HR will vary some, but only like a few BPM. If it is like say 7 more than normal, skip your run that day. :)

    It is a trailing indicator in that its a day behind, but it can tell you if you are allowing enough recovery time.

    I am not a doctor, and I have never played one on TV, so buyer beware, YMMV and none of this applies in Nebraska of course.

    Interesting to note that when I have binges, my RHR goes up as well for a couple of days. I find that fascinating!

    That might be stress related?

    Haha possible but I don't think so. I have always noticed when I have a lot of sugar my HR seems to spike, and my heart just beats harder? Not scientific at all I know, just one of those things I notice. Oh and when I binge, it's all the sugar - cake, sweets, icecream, sweets, chocolate lol

    ETA its not a huge change, about 7-8 bpm. But noticeable..

    b1kejrj8gzw2.jpg
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »

    Avidkeo wrote: »
    okay, thread... something y'all might need to be thinking about. I notice that some of you go through periods where you can not run, and you back off and then suddenly can run again. I SUSPECT that some of you are not allowing for enough recovery. There is a way to check this. Most of us wear a Fitbit, Garmin, or other wrist-based heart rate tracker full time. This is a good thing, assuming you are wearing it properly of course.

    Start looking at the graph of your RESTING HEART RATE. If you see that it is climbing and not coming back down then you are not fully recovered and you need to think about tossing in a rest day or other change to your training. Now your resting HR will vary some, but only like a few BPM. If it is like say 7 more than normal, skip your run that day. :)

    It is a trailing indicator in that its a day behind, but it can tell you if you are allowing enough recovery time.

    I am not a doctor, and I have never played one on TV, so buyer beware, YMMV and none of this applies in Nebraska of course.

    Interesting to note that when I have binges, my RHR goes up as well for a couple of days. I find that fascinating!

    That might be stress related?

    Haha possible but I don't think so. I have always noticed when I have a lot of sugar my HR seems to spike, and my heart just beats harder? Not scientific at all I know, just one of those things I notice. Oh and when I binge, it's all the sugar - cake, sweets, icecream, sweets, chocolate lol

    ETA its not a huge change, about 7-8 bpm. But noticeable..

    Right, but the few posts that I remember you mentioning a binge in were all around a time of stress. It does not mean much cause I am not exactly taking careful notes on your life, just thought I recalled that. :)
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »

    Avidkeo wrote: »
    okay, thread... something y'all might need to be thinking about. I notice that some of you go through periods where you can not run, and you back off and then suddenly can run again. I SUSPECT that some of you are not allowing for enough recovery. There is a way to check this. Most of us wear a Fitbit, Garmin, or other wrist-based heart rate tracker full time. This is a good thing, assuming you are wearing it properly of course.

    Start looking at the graph of your RESTING HEART RATE. If you see that it is climbing and not coming back down then you are not fully recovered and you need to think about tossing in a rest day or other change to your training. Now your resting HR will vary some, but only like a few BPM. If it is like say 7 more than normal, skip your run that day. :)

    It is a trailing indicator in that its a day behind, but it can tell you if you are allowing enough recovery time.

    I am not a doctor, and I have never played one on TV, so buyer beware, YMMV and none of this applies in Nebraska of course.

    Interesting to note that when I have binges, my RHR goes up as well for a couple of days. I find that fascinating!

    That might be stress related?

    Haha possible but I don't think so. I have always noticed when I have a lot of sugar my HR seems to spike, and my heart just beats harder? Not scientific at all I know, just one of those things I notice. Oh and when I binge, it's all the sugar - cake, sweets, icecream, sweets, chocolate lol

    ETA its not a huge change, about 7-8 bpm. But noticeable..

    b1kejrj8gzw2.jpg

    I’m wondering if that’s correlation rather than causation, and you are binging in part because you’re instinctively trying to raise your energy levels.
  • kgirlhart
    kgirlhart Posts: 5,155 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »

    Sorry, I was feeling really blah when I wrote that doom and gloom. I say plan for the half marathon, and if it's cancelled, do it anyway! My marathon isn't till July, and I'm planning on running it regardless. You are a rock star!

    That's my plan! 😊
  • Avidkeo
    Avidkeo Posts: 3,204 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »

    Avidkeo wrote: »
    okay, thread... something y'all might need to be thinking about. I notice that some of you go through periods where you can not run, and you back off and then suddenly can run again. I SUSPECT that some of you are not allowing for enough recovery. There is a way to check this. Most of us wear a Fitbit, Garmin, or other wrist-based heart rate tracker full time. This is a good thing, assuming you are wearing it properly of course.

    Start looking at the graph of your RESTING HEART RATE. If you see that it is climbing and not coming back down then you are not fully recovered and you need to think about tossing in a rest day or other change to your training. Now your resting HR will vary some, but only like a few BPM. If it is like say 7 more than normal, skip your run that day. :)

    It is a trailing indicator in that its a day behind, but it can tell you if you are allowing enough recovery time.

    I am not a doctor, and I have never played one on TV, so buyer beware, YMMV and none of this applies in Nebraska of course.

    Interesting to note that when I have binges, my RHR goes up as well for a couple of days. I find that fascinating!

    That might be stress related?

    Haha possible but I don't think so. I have always noticed when I have a lot of sugar my HR seems to spike, and my heart just beats harder? Not scientific at all I know, just one of those things I notice. Oh and when I binge, it's all the sugar - cake, sweets, icecream, sweets, chocolate lol

    ETA its not a huge change, about 7-8 bpm. But noticeable..

    Right, but the few posts that I remember you mentioning a binge in were all around a time of stress. It does not mean much cause I am not exactly taking careful notes on your life, just thought I recalled that. :)

    Hmmm you are right that the stress brings on the binges. My only argument is that the stress is still there, but I'm not binging. Intriguing ill have to keep an eye on that out of curiosity if nothing else
  • hamsterwheel6
    hamsterwheel6 Posts: 544 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    I’m feeling bummed out. I’ve gained 4lbs and for many it might seem not much, but in my small short frame, I can tell. I don’t get it as I’ve been ruining, more miles in fact. I have been eating more, but not more than mfp + exercise calories.

    Things to check...

    1) I have noticed that occasionally MFP counts exercise twice. Double-check your entries and make sure that is not happening. I have not figured out why/pattern or anything yet. Just occasionally I look and I have an entry doubled. (I too use a Garmin, just as you said you do)

    2) Make sure you have not gotten a bit lazy or sloppy in your portion control. If you grab a little extra, make sure you are still recording that. I think human nature is for us to get less precise with time

    3) Check your macros - is your diet composition still about the same? If your macros are changed your daily calorie intact might have to change to match that

    4) What about your non-exercising time? Are you less active than you were? Esply during this lockdown?

    5) I know nothing about this being biologically (and in all ways) male, but is it related to your cycle? I am told some woman retain water during parts of it.

    All that being said, you probably just need to adjust your non-exercise calorie count down a little and carry on. That is my best guess right now.

    Hey there!

    Ok so,

    1)No double entries...though I wonder how accurate Garmin is?
    2)That could be. I still measure everything, but the little bites here and there could add up. I usually will ‘quick add’ calories to cover that. I will be more mindful.
    3)I think the carbs have increased
    4)not much difference in non exercise time. Other than not going to work, which is not that much more movement
    5)I wish it was that lol.

    Sadly I’m already at the lowest allowed (1200) for non exercise calories so. And I have to have that much at least. I’ll try to get more precise..in the counting
    thanks much!


    Adding to this, are you weighing EVERYTHING? as in pre packaged items? If you weigh things like bread you will see the pack says 140 calories for 2 slices (74g), but when you weigh the slices they are actually 82g which is an increase of 10%

    I now weigh everything, because packaging lies. I had some instant noodles the other day, package said 141g, the actual weight was 150g. And when it's a high fat product like that, it makes a difference.

    Also have you got negative adjustments on? This is something I've struggled with for ages, but I now use. Because on some days I don't burn as much as MFP thinks I will with the exercise done in the morning. Negative adjustments mean I'm going to be much closer to my deficit.

    Finally how much are you aiming to lose? Trying to lose too fast (eg you only have 5lb to go, but are set at 2lb a week) can cause you to stagnate - mostly because you aren't eating enough calories, and you don't have the stores anymore. You start using muscle for energy and it can cause a whole lot of issues. Make sure you set an appropriate goal, remember it's a marathon, not a sprint.

    Oh and second finally, are you tracking daily and watching the trend? Small losses can be hidden in weekly weigh ins. Mobycarp taught me how useful tracking the trend is. I ignore the daily weights now and just look at the trend. Going down, yay. Going up, boo.

    Hugs, it really sux.

    That’s the one thing I don’t do..weight the prepackaged stuff...but I never have before and I lost. But I will start.
    Yes to negative adjustments. I don’t have much to lose, it’s just I had reached my goal, and was maintaining fairly well, but then all of a sudden the past 2-3 months weight has been increasing...at first I thought it was water weight or time of month weight, and It will go away, but nope.
    I’m tracking daily, but haven’t kept with the trend lately. Need to fire up that app again.
    I’ll try to be more vigilant and see if that helps
    Thanks for the tips! Yeah it sux.
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited April 2020
    @hamsterwheel6 Adding to what @avidkeo mentions about weighing foods and there being a slight difference, I think the calories listed only have to be within 10% anyway. so That could be added calories and if you notice some things have approximate servings listed. Like the can is ~2.5 servings but when you check it against ounces or grams it has 2.6 servings (oh i see Kim mentioned this already). I wonder if its not your foods and is a change in activity? since the virus we all are probably less active. Or more carbs even which causes water retention.

    I'm using my covid money for liposuction.... (not really. cuz its not enough)
  • shanaber
    shanaber Posts: 6,423 Member
    @hamsterwheel6 - did you increase your runs after you were at maintenance and when you increased your runs did you increase your calories? You really need to make sure that you are eating enough to support your activities. I think @avidkeo mentioned this too but if you were maintaining and increased your activities without providing your body more fuel it will become way more efficient and not burn as much to protect your muscles as much as possible and then you start to gain.
    I actually did this (weight going up despite running and working out more and cutting back on calories even more) and ended up at a nutritionist who scared the crap out of me by having me increase my calories a lot (I was still only eating 1200-1400/day total). I was sure I was going to gain, gain, gain... Only, I didn't and have finally started to lose again.
  • marisap2010
    marisap2010 Posts: 909 Member
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    @Avidkeo Looks delicious so far!

    @rheddmobile I hope you don’t end up with poison ivy!

    Went hiking today for 4.4 miles. Beautiful weather and some animal friends (from a distance).
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    WOW! looks like you found a den. The two look like rattle snakes. But the light brown one isn't obviously a pit viper, but is similar in marking. You know what kind they are? I'm incline to guess it's a copperhead in the mix.

    Hubby’s friend says they are midland water snakes, which are non-venemous but look very similar to cottonmouths in pattern, just different head shape. I don’t like snakes, so I took these photos from 10+ feet away.
  • Camaramandy648
    Camaramandy648 Posts: 711 Member
    Morning all! I've enjoyed reading everyone's posts - I was behind 186, so am not going to even attempt to respond to each of you - but of course a few things stand out.

    Firstly, @Avidkeo that CAKE! You are making my mouth water and my heart swell. I want it! I have never really make much of an effort to be a baker, but I have made a couple of nice cheesecakes before... But your cake! Oh my goodness! I am in awe!

    @hamsterwheel6 I have had the same problem - definitely weigh everything and try to eat back your calories. I am a giant hypocrite though, because I haven't been consistent with logging in ages. Like over a month. Maybe two. I don't know.

    What I have done is possibly signficantly more unwise, lol. Since I started running so many miles, I just quit logging. It wasn't intentional. It was just that I was so RAVENOUS the days after a long run (because I don't eat much before or after a run - I prefer to just have a protein drink and banana a couple hours before I run - or a boiled egg - and then after the run, I'm not hungry and eating feels like torture). I have just tried to be really mindful of what I am consuming - except that... if I'm not logging, it's harder to feel as though I am accountable to anything for the slip ups, like eight mini reese's cups. Or five reese's bunnies at easter. I always shrug it off "Well, I'm running forty miles this week so whatever." That's actually not very smart because while on one hand, sure I'll burn it off - on the other hand - it really, really matters to me whether or not my food is helping or hurting me. I can eat constantly. Seriously. So I too, really need to get back into the logging.

    Also - I hate the macros. How have I already eaten so many carbs? It is not even eight am, I've had black coffee and an Ezekiel cinnamon raisin english muffin with raw maple almond butter and now I can only have 127 more carbs today? Well guess what, that isn't going to happen because almost my whole lunch is roasted vegetables! What about all the carbs in that?!?!?!?! And where am I supposed to get all this sodium from? And how in the world can I possibly get enough protein and fat?!?!?!?!?!

    It stresses me out and my weight has seemed to have plateaued. Some would say that I've done well and it's healthy to loose eight pounds in sixth months and that may be true, but goodness. This is a lot of work and stuff to keep track of!


    On running this weekend: I got the thing done. And I ran up the big hill again because there's a fake rhino at the top and I had to pee so bad and I was sure nobody would be up there. Well I was right. So I have peed in the woods as an adult twice now and one of the times, it was next to a Rhinoceros. Not everyone can say that! I really wasn't sure I'd be able to do the whole thirteen miles because of my knee/leg/IT Band/quad situation, but I would hate myself if I didn't at least try. Once I started running, my left leg felt like lead and my right quad was hurting, like maybe a torn muscle is in there or something, but it wasn't too bad. So I just kept running. By the time I got home, I was beat. It turns out I actually ran almost 17 miles, not thirteen. I am pretty pleased with that.

    Yesterday, I didn't think I could get out of bed. I was afraid of how bad everything would hurt and I was so tired, but by the time I got up and moving, it wasn't too bad at all. I got the whole house clean (mostly), took the dog out to the trail, and clocked a 10K for all my efforts. So there's another race in the books. The legs are pretty sore this morning and I think it's because when I got home, I had 5.8 miles but really needed 6.2 for the bib, so I ran the rest of it through my house (it's very small so I'm sure I looked silly - flash from one short end to the other short end). I was barefoot and I don't really know how to properly run barefoot, so I was mostly on the balls of my feet and now my legs are REALLY sore. BUT I GOT THE BIB SO IT WAS WORTH IT!

    @PastorVincent That is really interesting about the heart rate. My twin brother in Portland says I need to take a break. He's an inactive smoker and loads of beer drinker (sometimes) so it is hard to take advice from him, but he may have a point. i'm going to check my heart rate now and see if it magically makes sense in my head without more reading, haha.

    Happy Monday, everyone!
  • PastorVincent
    PastorVincent Posts: 6,668 Member
    So there's another race in the books. The legs are pretty sore this morning and I think it's because when I got home, I had 5.8 miles but really needed 6.2 for the bib, so I ran the rest of it through my house (it's very small so I'm sure I looked silly - flash from one short end to the other short end). I was barefoot and I don't really know how to properly run barefoot, so I was mostly on the balls of my feet and now my legs are REALLY sore. BUT I GOT THE BIB SO IT WAS WORTH IT!

    Barefoot running can really help teach you better form. Your foot gets far more feedback from the ground without all the layers in between, and you really notice any heel strikes...but I suspect you spent so much time turning around on your run you really did not get a chance to learn from that. :smiley:

    Of course, you also need to be more careful of the surface you re running on when your feet are naked...
  • Tramboman
    Tramboman Posts: 2,482 Member
    Avidkeo wrote: »
    Cake decorating day 2.
    Filled and crumb coat. I will do the final coat tomorrow, and mirror glaze on Wednesday. I've got the day off Wednesday so can spend the day with Jessica! She's getting so excited!

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    Nothing like cake porn to start the day!!!
  • quilteryoyo
    quilteryoyo Posts: 6,446 Member
    It is right up there with "uh oh" and "that does not look good." But still better than "oops"
    Hahaha. That literally made me laugh out loud! Thanks. I needed that this morning.