July 2021 Monthly Running Challenge
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Thanks all for welcoming me to the group! I have a current issue right now on diet. I’m on a keto diet and I’m considering switching to a high carb diet. I don’t know if it’s because I just started running but I have been experiencing constant burning in my legs and I was wondering if it’s the diet I am on. I like the keto diet because I never feel hunger and I am very energetic. But if it’s undermining my efforts to be a runner. It would be nice to become MFP friends with some of you who will open up their diary to me to get more learned on fueling my body. I down loaded information on eating for a runner. Keep in mind I went on the keto diet was to lose weight but I am currently on maintenance and I went on keto because I was close to becoming diabetic. Both my parents were diabetic but if running with a high carb diet keeps my sugar low then I will eat high carbs. Thank you in advance for responding to this inquiry.2
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@julieannegannon I have been on keto since starting to run again in March this year. All running sucked at first, but probably would have sucked even if not being keto.
All new runners need to spend a lot of time running only at conversational pace doing "base building" to get that muscle adaptation going in your mitochondria to adapt to burning more fat for fuel. As a keto runner you will adapt to that faster than a non-keto runner, but even so you should still do a long period of base training. I would suggest 6 months minimum, but I know you have some race plans already in mind.
As for my experiences running on keto, the only limitation it has given me is fast paced running at the top end of Zone 4, and has made Zone 5 practically out of reach (You shouldn't be running in those zones as a new runner, you really need to focus on base building first). The reason for that is simply that the initial 10 or so pound water weight loss is from your glycogen stores. For high intensity efforts your muscles will tap into your glycogen first for fuel, which you are now carrying less of.
Keto can be an excellent option for endurance runners as it essentially removes "the dreaded wall" from concern, yet at the same time means you aren't running a half marathon at a true HM race pace either. You're left running in an aerobic effort zone, but through the combination of diet and exercise you are using fat for fuel so with enough training and strength you can just keep going as long as you physically can. Non-keto runners can get the same benefit, but they must go through the training to obtain the muscle adaptations to train their muscles to get a higher ratio fuel from fat. The muscles will always prefer getting it from an easier source, so unless you are keto your must train a lot harder to get that fat adaptation.6 -
7/1 – 3.02
7/2 – 5.02
7/2 - .50 cool down
7/3 – 4.02
7/4 – 1.05 with pups
7/4 – 1.44 hiking down and back up from swim basin
7/5 – 4.67 trails
7/5 - .41 cool down to get to 5 miles
7/6 – rest day walked the dogs
7/7 – 4.03
7/8 – 4.04
7/9 – 5.19 miles of cross training – bike (not counted in miles)
7/10 – 13.11 July Half Marathon Monthly challenge
7/11 – rest day
7/12 – 3.02
7/13 – 6.1 miles of biking (not counted in miles)
7/14 – 4.05
7/16 – 5.01
7/17 – 3.02
7/19 – 7.01
63.42 of 65 miles
@quilteryoyo we use this meeting thing called Teams and people actually have to nerve to have it call me on my cell phone when I’m not there ha ha. Sometimes I pick up and I’m like out of breath because I’m running and I don’t say what I’m doing I just say “no it’s good I’m almost done” ha ha
@Orphia great job getting out in the rain, it’s been raining so much here it’s just okay gotta run in the rain. I woke up at 5:30 this morning and it was POURING, I said oh no I can wait ha ha
@ContraryMaryMary I haven’t ice skating in years, staying on the feet is good – nice long run
@martaindale I think the ability to come back rapidly has many factors, injury vs rest time, bad vs not bad injury, fitness before time off and certainly age. I know Skip bounces back much faster than I do. Though I definitely think I come back faster now than when I first started to run, I think the body remembers.
Nice race @Tramborman
@WhatMeRunning like @katharmonic I wear Oofos too I believe in them for recovery.
@katharmonic sounds like a weird kinda fun, you’re a good friend.
Great job @sweetdaisy13
@RunsOnEspresso nice job reaching for that 6
@polskagirl01 Skip’s Sprint Tri is in a couple of weeks, she’s been so lucky that a local swim coach is giving her free lessons, she goes at least 3 days a week and some weeks up to 5 mornings, like she meets him at 4:30 am for 2 hours. She said it’s made a huge improvement in her confidence in the swim. She only has a mountain bike so we put skinny road tires on it and she a customer in the store the other day said hey I have a road bike that would be perfect for the tri I’ll bring it to town and if you like it I’ll sell it to you. So we’ll see how that goes.
Hi @MikeRunsDaily2021
Welcome @julieannegannon like @rheddmobile said lots of us “mature” ladies here, I’ll be 60 in a few weeks….wow how did that happen!
@WhatMeRunning that kitten foot!
@quilteryoyo I have a Nathan pack/vest and love everything about it, it has two big pockets in the front and a zippered back besides where the bladder goes and I love it. It’s the Trail 7L Pictures in spoiler
I also have a larger handheld that has a soft bladder again love it, it's the Nathan ExoDraw 18 oz. The pocket in the front can fix a couple guis and my key fob
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julieannegannon wrote: »Thanks all for welcoming me to the group! I have a current issue right now on diet. I’m on a keto diet and I’m considering switching to a high carb diet. I don’t know if it’s because I just started running but I have been experiencing constant burning in my legs and I was wondering if it’s the diet I am on. I like the keto diet because I never feel hunger and I am very energetic. But if it’s undermining my efforts to be a runner. It would be nice to become MFP friends with some of you who will open up their diary to me to get more learned on fueling my body. I down loaded information on eating for a runner. Keep in mind I went on the keto diet was to lose weight but I am currently on maintenance and I went on keto because I was close to becoming diabetic. Both my parents were diabetic but if running with a high carb diet keeps my sugar low then I will eat high carbs. Thank you in advance for responding to this inquiry.
There’s a lot of ground between keto and high carb. I’m a diabetic controlled by diet and exercise, and I eat moderate carbs (about 150 g / day or 45 g / meal) planning them around my exercise. I test blood glucose frequently and have found that I can sometimes eat up to 90g net carbs at one sitting without a blood sugar spike following a long run! I also fuel my runs by eating an orange before and gummies during any run longer than 90 minutes.
However, we have had keto runners who were members of the group. One who I haven’t seen posting in a while was quite a successful endurance runner with sponsorships and all that. Keto can be excellent for ultra runners because unlike a non-keto adapted runner, who has to stay ahead of their blood sugar and digestion, a keto runner can keep going as long as they have some fat stores. We also have @T1DCarnivoreRunner who is a fully carnivore runner, doesn’t eat any plant matter besides a few spices, and is a type 1 diabetic. There are many ways to fuel successfully as a runner!
If you enjoy keto then there’s no reason to stop. Most likely the burning is just you getting used to running and will pass. However, you can try eating a few quick carbs (such as an orange, or a gummy) before a run and see if it helps you feel better. In general studies have found that exercise requiring quick maximal efforts are best powered by carbs, while endurance isn’t affected as much.
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@Tramboman Good race! Looks like you beat your time goal and placed in your AG. I'd call that a win for sure!1
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ContraryMaryMary wrote: »So excited to be running less.
Welcome @julieannegannon and Welcome back @MikeRunsDaily2021
Congrats on the race @sweetdaisy13 ! Awesome pace in warm temps.
@WhatMeRunning No pain when running sounds like a good sign. It's good that you are aware of the discomfort. Even if it's not bad enough to stop you from running, you're tuned into it so you will notice if it worsens and can address it before it becomes a stop running situation.4 -
I am loving seeing all the hydration options people use. I have been tempted to try out a hydration vest, but, like @ContraryMaryMary I've worried if it would be too hot or chafe as I am a very sweaty runner. I tried a flipbelt, even bought 2 different sizes, and it just didn't stay put. I was fiddling with it too much so ditched that.
These days I have a handheld bottle sort of like @WhatMeRunning that loops over my hand so I'm not really holding it. It has elastic loops on the back to hold fuel. I also have a couple of small bottles for the flipbelt that fit in the thigh pockets of my leggings for winter runs, so I can go hands free.
I'm going to look into that insulated nathan bottle for the summer because it is amazing how fast water heats up outside! Even if I put ice in my current bottle but mile 2-ish, it's all melted and basically room temp.4 -
rheddmobile wrote: »julieannegannon wrote: »Thanks all for welcoming me to the group! I have a current issue right now on diet. I’m on a keto diet and I’m considering switching to a high carb diet. I don’t know if it’s because I just started running but I have been experiencing constant burning in my legs and I was wondering if it’s the diet I am on. I like the keto diet because I never feel hunger and I am very energetic. But if it’s undermining my efforts to be a runner. It would be nice to become MFP friends with some of you who will open up their diary to me to get more learned on fueling my body. I down loaded information on eating for a runner. Keep in mind I went on the keto diet was to lose weight but I am currently on maintenance and I went on keto because I was close to becoming diabetic. Both my parents were diabetic but if running with a high carb diet keeps my sugar low then I will eat high carbs. Thank you in advance for responding to this inquiry.
There’s a lot of ground between keto and high carb. I’m a diabetic controlled by diet and exercise, and I eat moderate carbs (about 150 g / day or 45 g / meal) planning them around my exercise. I test blood glucose frequently and have found that I can sometimes eat up to 90g net carbs at one sitting without a blood sugar spike following a long run! I also fuel my runs by eating an orange before and gummies during any run longer than 90 minutes.
However, we have had keto runners who were members of the group. One who I haven’t seen posting in a while was quite a successful endurance runner with sponsorships and all that. Keto can be excellent for ultra runners because unlike a non-keto adapted runner, who has to stay ahead of their blood sugar and digestion, a keto runner can keep going as long as they have some fat stores. We also have @T1DCarnivoreRunner who is a fully carnivore runner, doesn’t eat any plant matter besides a few spices, and is a type 1 diabetic. There are many ways to fuel successfully as a runner!
If you enjoy keto then there’s no reason to stop. Most likely the burning is just you getting used to running and will pass. However, you can try eating a few quick carbs (such as an orange, or a gummy) before a run and see if it helps you feel better. In general studies have found that exercise requiring quick maximal efforts are best powered by carbs, while endurance isn’t affected as much.
Thanks for the tag. @julieannegannon The burning is probably due to either just being new to running (i.e. muscles are not ready for that) or electrolytes. Or lactic acid if you are going too fast. The only suggestion without more details is to increase sodium. I don't know about you, but I sweat at 1,085mg/l. For sodium, that means I add 1,100 mg/l to water.
BTW, Zach Bitter, the 100 mile world record holder, is keto / mostly carnivore. But he races high. The key to that method is to first apend the several months to adapt / cause changes in skeletal muscle mitochondria to increase your crossover point. Then can use strategic carbs during races.6 -
Got in my long run on Sunday. 20 miles at a relaxed pace. Now only easy running until recently. Easy 6 1/2 miles this morning. Only easy Miles until race day.11
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New here! Going to try the ticker. Fingers crossed!
I'm adding the mileage I logged at my gym, Orangetheory fitness in July (so far).
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julieannegannon wrote: »Thanks all for welcoming me to the group! I have a current issue right now on diet. I’m on a keto diet and I’m considering switching to a high carb diet. I don’t know if it’s because I just started running but I have been experiencing constant burning in my legs and I was wondering if it’s the diet I am on. I like the keto diet because I never feel hunger and I am very energetic. But if it’s undermining my efforts to be a runner. It would be nice to become MFP friends with some of you who will open up their diary to me to get more learned on fueling my body. I down loaded information on eating for a runner. Keep in mind I went on the keto diet was to lose weight but I am currently on maintenance and I went on keto because I was close to becoming diabetic. Both my parents were diabetic but if running with a high carb diet keeps my sugar low then I will eat high carbs. Thank you in advance for responding to this inquiry.
It's probably a good thing my food diary is (I think) closed. It would probably be a good example of what NOT to do, though!
@skippygirlsmom best wishes to Skip on her triathlon! Swim training and a better bike would be helpful for me, too. I'll get there eventually. Also, that Nathan pack looks so similar to the way my Ultimate Direction pack is made - little details, the adjustability, fabric, logo... weird. I wonder if they're connected somehow.3 -
@polskagirl01 thanks she's really excited. Looks like the Nathan is about $40-50 cheaper than what I see of the Ultimate Direction (of course that depends on what you buy). One of the things we really like about the nathan is the two straps across the front, especially for Skip since she's little, she criss crosses them and it keeps the pack snug and comfortable on her. They are also open on the sides just the adjustment straps so it's cooler (I think and I did have a full vest before) and with 2 adjustable straps on the sides you can adjust better for comfort, again based on a full (cheaper) vest I had before. I'm sure you can't go wrong with either they are so similar.5
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[Retyping entire post I just lost...]
I went on a great little adventure today! I worked ALL day yesterday so I'd have the time to go to the mountains. Short version: 2 summits and a total of 10 miles and 3380 ft of ascent/descent.Drove 40 minutes away and parked in a valley. Hiked up the easier side first, took pictures/had a snack, then jogged down. Uneventful but lovely. Stopped at the car quick, then started up the other side. Only problem was, it was a steep ski slope and most normal (smart) people take the ski lift. I'm apparently crazy, and had quite a few choice words going through my head on the way up. At some point I realized my route was actually supposed to be a trail just inside the woods, so I moved over there and it was much cooler than being cooked by the sun, but was just as steep. NO ONE appeared to be enjoying the hike up, and it was very slow progress, one step at a time with lots of stopping and leaning on trees to get my heart rate down. Ski lift in sight was not encouraging, but I tried to ignore it. Then I got to the lodge feeling trashed, but it looked like everyone from the lift was having a party up there. So weird. After a little break enjoying the view, I went the extra kilometer up to the actual summit, at the Czech-Polish border. On the way back down, it was only runnable back to the lodge, then turned into watching my step and zigzagging back and forth trying to not hurl myself down the slope. I should have picked a different route for that side. I'm not sure it helped me training-wise. Oh well. It was definitely crazy (aka awesome)!July Goal 100 miles (stretch goal 185k)
The red arrows show where I was standing when I took the other picture.
Upcoming races:
August 1: Grywicka 10k (forest trail)
August 14: Bieg Zbóju 25km (mountain trail, 1400m elevation)12 -
polskagirl01 wrote: »[Retyping entire post I just lost...]
I went on a great little adventure today! I worked ALL day yesterday so I'd have the time to go to the mountains. Short version: 2 summits and a total of 10 miles and 3380 ft of ascent/descent.Drove 40 minutes away and parked in a valley. Hiked up the easier side first, took pictures/had a snack, then jogged down. Uneventful but lovely. Stopped at the car quick, then started up the other side. Only problem was, it was a steep ski slope and most normal (smart) people take the ski lift. I'm apparently crazy, and had quite a few choice words going through my head on the way up. At some point I realized my route was actually supposed to be a trail just inside the woods, so I moved over there and it was much cooler than being cooked by the sun, but was just as steep. NO ONE appeared to be enjoying the hike up, and it was very slow progress, one step at a time with lots of stopping and leaning on trees to get my heart rate down. Ski lift in sight was not encouraging, but I tried to ignore it. Then I got to the lodge feeling trashed, but it looked like everyone from the lift was having a party up there. So weird. After a little break enjoying the view, I went the extra kilometer up to the actual summit, at the Czech-Polish border. On the way back down, it was only runnable back to the lodge, then turned into watching my step and zigzagging back and forth trying to not hurl myself down the slope. I should have picked a different route for that side. I'm not sure it helped me training-wise. Oh well. It was definitely crazy (aka awesome)!July Goal 100 miles (stretch goal 185k) The red arrows show where I was standing when I took the other picture.
Upcoming races:
August 1: Grywicka 10k (forest trail)
August 14: Bieg Zbóju 25km (mountain trail, 1400m elevation)
Looks like a fun adventure!!!3 -
Fab run @polska_girl - beautiful photos.2
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July Goal: 100 Miles
7/1: 6.26 miles
7/2: 2.25 miles
7/4: 13.2 miles
7/5: 1.02 miles
7/6: 5.53 miles
7/7: 5.30 miles
7/8: 5.30 miles
7/9: 2.03 miles
7/11: 10.51 miles
7/12: 3.16 miles
7/13: 5.26 miles
7/14: 5.25 miles
7/15: 5.30 miles
7/17: 9.43 miles
79.80/100 miles completed for July
We had our family reunion this weekend so I got really behind on the thread. I was both looking forward to and dreading the reunion this year. We didn't get to have our reunion last year and then my Dad passed away in September so this was the first reunion without him. And my son wasn't able to get off work, so I was disappointed about that. But we did have a really good reunion. My daughter was able to come and the weather was nice. I did get my long run in yesterday. My goal was a 15K, so I ran 9.4 miles. I also did some kayaking and some swimming over the weekend so even though I ate a little more than usual I stayed pretty active.
I will probably not be able to respond to all the post, but @quilteryoyo I did want to say that I use a flipbelt with the smaller size bottle. It works well for me and I don't even notice it.
2021 Races:
4/24/21: Run For The Children 10K PR 55:46:28.
11/6/21: Run For 57th AHC Half Marathon
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So many great choices for hydration. Will have to think on it a bit, but not too long. Would like to get something soon to use for my longer runs during HM training.
@Scott6255 Way to get in those miles.
Enjoy your vacation @penguinmama87 !
Sorry about the PF @WhatMeRunning ! I hope taking a break from running is all you need and it heals quickly.
Haha @skippygirlsmom ! Love your response when you are called for a meeting while you're running! So nice that Skip has gotten all that help with her upcoming Tri. Hope she does well and enjoys it!
Great running @MikeRunsDaily2021 !
Welcome @amybroccoli86 !
What a beautiful tough hike @polskagirl01 !
@kgirlhart Glad the reunion went better than expected.7 -
pfeiferlindsey wrote: »pfeiferlindsey wrote: »pfeiferlindsey wrote: »pfeiferlindsey wrote: »pfeiferlindsey wrote: »pfeiferlindsey wrote: »pfeiferlindsey wrote: »pfeiferlindsey wrote: »I'm in for 100 miles this month. I had injured my toe on Monday and was waiting to see how it felt before committing to a distance. I ran this morning without pain, so I think taking the last two days off was a good thing.
July 1- 3.5 miles
July Goal - 100 miles
Miles to go - 96.5 miles
July 3 - 4.60 miles
July 4 - 3.13 miles
Total for July - 11.23 miles
Miles to go - 88.77 miles
July 7 - 5 miles
July 8 - 3.11 miles
Total for July - 19.34 miles
Miles to go - 80.66 miles
Have my half on Saturday, we'll see how this goes!
Not feeling much up for a race report...I got it done.
July 10 - 13.03 miles (course was a bit short)
July 12 -3.13 miles
Total for July - 35.50 miles
July Goal - 100 miles
Miles to go - 64.50 miles
5 really solid miles today. Felt good to shake more cobwebs off from the half.
July 13 - 5 miles
Total for July - 40.50 miles
July Goal - 100 miles
Miles to go - 59.50 miles
July 14 - 3.2 miles
Total for July - 43.7 miles
July Goal - 100 miles
Miles to go - 56.3 miles
July 16 - 6.22 miles
Total for July - 49.92 miles
Miles to go - 50.08 miles
July 17- 3.11 miles
July 18 - 4.44 miles
Total for July - 57.47 miles
July Goal - 100 miles
Miles to go - 42.53 miles
July 19 - 3.27 miles
Total for July - 60.74 miles
July Goal - 100 miles
Miles to go - 39.26 miles5 -
7-1 2.1 miles running and 1.0 mile walking (Hill Repeats after cutting cedars for almost 1.5 hours)
7-2 0.0 miles running but 1.0 mile walking on treadmill (also played doubles tennis this morning)
7-3 9.0 miles running, 1.0 mile walking (easy pace, but not an easy run)
7-4 0.0 miles running, 1.0 mile walking laps on the driveway
7-5 2.3 miles running, 1.0 mile walking (also played doubles tennis for almost 2 hours, outdoors)
7-6 0.0 miles running, 1.0 mile walking
7-7 1.0 mile running, 1.0 mile walking (fast mile)
7-8 2.6 miles running, 1.0 mile walking (Hill Repeats - 6 months post surgery)
7-9 0.0 mile running, 1.0 mile walking (hot and humid)
7-10 7.0 miles running, 1.0 mile walking (easy pace, very humid)
7-11 0.0 miles running, 1.0 mile walking (rest day)
7-12 2.8 miles running, 1.0 mile walking (tempo run)
7-13 2.1 miles running, 1.0 mile walking (Recovery run)
7-14 2.6 miles running, 1.0 mile walking (Foundation Run)
7-15 3.0 miles running, 1.0 mile walking (Short Interval Run)
7-16 0.0 miles running, 1.0 mile walking (Doubles tennis, mowed my lawn, trimmed mom's, and walked)
7-17 5.0 miles running, 1.0 mile walking ("Long run" cut short)
7-18 0.0 miles running, 1.0 mile walking (keeping the streak alive)
7-19 4.1 miles running, 1.0 mile walking (Cruise Interval on treadmill)
MT = 43.6/70 miles running: 19.0/31miles walking
Today's plan called for Cruise Intervals. I ran on the treadmill, since I had to run after work and it was pouring rain. I ran 4.2/4.5 mph for 5/5 minutes, then 4x(2.5/2.5/3 minutes at 5.5/5.0/4.2 mph), then 11:14 minutes at 4.2 mph. The intervals were to be 5 min in zone 3/3 minutes in zone 1. I couldn't maintain 5.5 mph for 5 minutes, so decided to do half at that and half at 5.0. I wound up running the entire way! I haven't ran that far without a walk break in a really, really long time. I ran 4.1 miles and walked one total for warm up and cool down.
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@WhatMeRunning - this is the 'Toes Pose' that I was doing. https://www.runnersworld.com/video/a20809634/toes-pose/
I do a standing version now that helps but I don't think it is as affective.1
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