WOMEN AGES 50+ FOR SEPTEMBER 2021

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  • auntiebk
    auntiebk Posts: 2,520 Member
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    "Get to do"s and "chose well"s
    Chose well: BP,
    Bonus: posted minutes and next meeting sign at fire house (Sunday.)
    Get to do: take BP, dogs to powerline, call pc guy to schedule tuneup, log into derm’s portal and update rx, recycling, load bottles in car, finish packing bag, USE those torture bands/do that BB&B video, call S, fire district: finish board meeting minutes, research NFPA, grant NIMS requirements, input 2019 call sheets into NFIRS, work with chief on equipment letter, substance abuse policy, NFIRS mutual aid and other missing details, likewise Lee skills/tasks, ask for boots donator contact info, appreciation letter or certificate to boots donator, index mutual aid files; watch STAS Day 20, declutter sideboard, learn new dances (Tequila Little Time, Homesick, Nothing but You, A Little Less Broken, Blame it on my beating heart,; Do Your Thing, practice dances: One Margarita, I’m so used to being broke, All Night, Pure Movies to Wine, Beer, Whiskey, I ain’t never gonna love nobody but Cornell Crawford (Alley cat),); finish mulching flowerbed, invest another 10 minutes in prepping living trust, Freddie’s for complete series TDAP <$48, get Shingrix vaccine, find and configure a screen time popup, figure out where to plant the last of the naked lady bulbs, and soon as it warms up above 50 and dries out below 60% humidity I’ll tape and spray paint those rusted areas of Aunt Elsie’s stove, ask Te about GB’s FD firetruck tax levy – contacts, media, advocate???, Reward: inventory seeds, plan this fall’s garden, wishlist replenishments (Milena F1 orange peppers and beit alpha cukes next year).
    September
    14: If you’re busy, allow yourself time to pause and take a break. That was yesterday.

    Yesterday was a real rest day. After making veggie taco brunch and enjoying it with Joe, I watched TV and read all day. Didn’t even take the pooches down to the powerline. Step count so low it dragged daily average down below goal. Scale this morning continued its kindness streak despite CI > CO. Feel rested, restored, and relieved that T doesn’t want to walk today.

    Pip loved Bothell when I was there to pickup Dixie our rescue Wheaten. :love: your corner spot with a view!
    Cheri your tail wagging, breezy graphic made me smile.
    Allie Even though $1500 is a hard pill to swallow, it is WAY better that what you’d pay for any reliable vehicle. Good choice. ((hugs)) sorry for your loss. Learning about it via Facebook is hard, but it’s better to know than not.
    Evelyn with your back should you really be turning that new mattress? Could the new mattress have triggered your muscle pull?
    Machka brava on your lunch run, stair climb and evening bike ride with DH. Had to smile at the lotion mixing and watching Princess Bride, one of my faves. “Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya…”

    Rita, ((hugs)) I once went over 10 years without shedding a tear. It was not good for me. Just stumbled across this tiktok and now I’m crying too. ((hugs))

    https://v16-web.tiktok.com/video/tos/useast2a/tos-useast2a-ve-0068c001/43e6cf21dae84614a1ac3a120a44aed5/?a=1988&amp;br=1338&amp;bt=669&amp;cd=0|0|0&amp;ch=0&amp;cr=0&amp;cs=0&amp;dr=0&amp;ds=2&amp;er=&amp;expire=1631667099&amp;ft=9wMeReta4kag3&amp;l=20210914184840010190187163102826A3&amp;lr=tiktok_m&amp;mime_type=video_mp4&amp;net=0&amp;pl=0&amp;policy=3&amp;qs=0&amp;rc=MzpqcGU6ZnVyNzMzNzczM0ApNTc8ODk5O2RnNzY0ZzU8Nmdzal4zcjRfNWZgLS1kMTZzcy8tNDYzYC5gMTEtMi8tYzQ6Yw==&amp;signature=65d7a495e766301a902267aa4121437a&amp;tk=0&amp;vl=&amp;vr=
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/mandy-patinkin-princess-bride-scene-1235003292/
    Katla fingers Xd both for the appt and for the new bathroom rugs.
    Michele looking forward to pics of your mermaid.
    Kay strong prayers said for your parents right now. ((hugs)) Soon as I get a little less angry :rage:, I’ll try to pray for your self-involved brother and his wife.
    Annie your spinach and cucumber salad sounds just right!

    Lighter, lovelies!
    f8qt1s098sxm.gifBarbara, the Southern Oregon Coastie AHMOD
    September: leaner/stronger/kinder than August.
    daily: sit with Joe:14, weigh/wii: 13/0/0; steps>7222=2092 vits=12.5, log=13, CI<CO=12, CI<250<CO=7, Tumble=12, Shadow=13, mfp=12, outside=15, up hill=13, clean 10=8.
    wkly: Sun: Mon: Tue:LD=, Wed:TC=1, PW=1, Thurs: TC=5mins, Fri:TC=1.33, Sat:PW=2, rX x4=2.
    wt=1/31:141.3 2/28:142.4 3/31:145.3 4/30:141.5 5/31:142.4 6/30:141.5 7/31:140.2 8/31:140.0 9/5:140.2 9/12: 9/19: 9/26: 9/30:
    mnthly: board mtg=1, grant=, plan=, waist=42.0
    bonus: AF=5, play= sew=
    2021: choose to be leaner/stronger/kinder NOW

  • cityjaneLondon
    cityjaneLondon Posts: 12,366 Member
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    Zoom went well, though we listened compassionately to my friend's woes with her 94 year old mother. :( Glad to. Must be so hard. My Scotland friend is booked to go to North Cyprus in two weeks, where she has a house with swimming pool she hasn't seen for two years.

    My first trial run with Mystery Diner is a delivery. My choice. I thought I'd start small. :p

    DH won't be going to cricket tomorrow as they managed to get the match finished today! So, his season is finished.
    I feel we ought to do something, but I can’t think what.

    I'm a third of the way through my third edit. Still haven't sorted my tablet. Grrr! Haven't even switched it on.

    Love Heather UK xxxxxxxx
  • evie1958
    evie1958 Posts: 856 Member
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    Barbara, should I have been turning the mattress with my back bothering me? Probably not, but I did want to do it and hubby did help (a lot!), and it is just turning, so no real lifting involved. My back is feeling much better, hubby and I went for a walk yesterday afternoon and I went for a walk this morning with my neighbour friend, feeling a little stiff and a few twinges, but so much better than Thurs and Fri!
    Raining a bit here today, actually turned the heat on for a bit! And wearing long sleeves! Oh well, it is September, supposed to be nice tomorrow and Thursday, then rain for the weekend. Our forests will be grateful.
    Hugs for those needing them, congrats to those celebrating and welcome to the newbies!
    Evelyn, Vancouver Island
  • TerriRichardson112
    TerriRichardson112 Posts: 18,391 Member
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    @drkatiebug <> (((Hugs))) Some people are so irresponsible and inconsiderate. I hope your parents are okay.

    (((Hugs))) and 🙏🏻 🙏🏻 🙏🏻 for anyone else who needs them.

    I went to my craft group this morning. The group has split into 2 groups to allow social distancing. The woman who had been Leader of the group for 19 years gave it up, so we had a little presentation for her, and gave her a lovely basket of flowers. I was working on a cross-stitch picture of zebras for my African themed master bedroom.

    I spent the afternoon sorting out some more of my craft supplies and rearranging them in my new storage unit. The room looks much less cluttered now, but I still have a mountain of stuff in the dining room to sort out.

    Will be up and out early tomorrow to take advantage of seniors early shopping. I may buy some new winter shoes as the Pavers shop has a sale on.

    Enjoy the rest of your Tuesday.

    ☘️
  • Peach1948
    Peach1948 Posts: 2,473 Member
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  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,195 Member
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    Katla49 wrote: »
    Machka - Enjoy your 10K run. I will be cheering for you.

    Thank you ... it is in a couple weeks' time. :)
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,195 Member
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    I tend not to be a people pleaser. When I was at my peak with my cycling (early 2000s), I had a rule ... if you wanted to socialise with me, you got on a bicycle and rode with me. I wasn't giving up my rides to sit around and talk. :naughty:

    But I always felt like I needed to give a reason or an excuse if I had to say "no" or "sorry" ... until my husband's accident. Somewhere I read that when you're dealing with a lot, you can just say, "No, I can't do that", "No, I will not be able to attend." ... and I didn't have to give a reason or excuse. Or, as with my rule in the paragraph above, I can provide an alternative that works better for me.

    I was recently asked to be one of the Admins on a cycling Facebook page. I agreed on one condition - that I was one of several. I would not be the only one. I did not want the weight of responsibility!!

    M in Oz
  • bananasandoranges
    bananasandoranges Posts: 2,410 Member
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    Machka


    Evidently "Venlafaxine-XR demonstrated a 73.7% success rate".
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10211533/

    There are, of course 2-3 weeks of side effects, but then everything is just - - - - - -
    No more big ups and downs in emotions, and that is much better for me.


    I hope you can find a way through. :)


    Response:
    Machka, What's seems most important here is that ...you ...have found what it works for ...you!

    Wouldn't it be something if medicine and life hacks were a one-size-fits all! if all medicines, approaches had the same effect on everyone!

    I remember last time you brought up this subject and suggestion a few months ago you said that even if it's placebo effect you were happy with it. I think it's so important to respect other's real experience of treatment and choices. I certainly aim to as much as possible!

    The article cited says "Venlafaxine-XR demonstrated a 73.7% success rate, which was statistically significantly greater than that of the studied SSRIs (61.1%) and TCAs (57.9%) "

    I had not heard of success rate of 60 or 75% and since it didn't say double blind, nor placebo, nor refer to specifics, (what is qualified as success, how many people dropped out, reference to the specific tests since it was a meta) I googled the same with
    double-blind and
    placebo
    in the last year and came upon some of this -

    That half of research by pharmaceutical companies are not published.

    A serious ex-boyfriend years back was a MD student and here they have to do a short thesis - 25 pages - in the end of their studies. He said an option (which he didn't take) was a "ready-made" study produced by pharmaceutical company. Surely not deontological, but can take a round about form- financing for studies in a field- defunding if results are not "fruitful". or something else.

    I found one very broad one 18000+ people that found no difference between antidepressants and placebo - im unable to find it again.

    A lot say several people dropped out due to unpleasant side effects. often those people are not part of final statistics.
    Then this one below which is a bit strong.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172306/

    Which says that.

    "analyses of the published data and the unpublished data that were hidden by drug companies reveals that most (if not all) of the benefits are due to the placebo effect. Some antidepressants increase serotonin levels, some decrease it, and some have no effect at all on serotonin. Nevertheless, they all show the same therapeutic benefit. Even the small statistical difference between antidepressants and placebos may be an enhanced placebo effect, due to the fact that most patients and doctors in clinical trials successfully break blind. The serotonin theory is as close as any theory in the history of science to having been proved wrong." Wow!
    That's for SSRI, but the study cited above says SSRIs have more than 60%

    I remember discussion one that said anti-depressants work about 33% of the time but about half of that at least is placebo effect and found a few that seem to echo that. you had said that if it was placebo it was okay for you! I can certainly understand that position and you certainly could be part of the - apparently small (depending on studies) proportion that benefit truly chemically, and with few side effects. That is fortunate...for you!
  • bananasandoranges
    bananasandoranges Posts: 2,410 Member
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    Barbara, congratulations on the SV!
  • bananasandoranges
    bananasandoranges Posts: 2,410 Member
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    I think my physical exhaustion is having more impact on my mood than visa versa.
    Plus the covid thing has not been easy for me.
    etc, etc.

    when i went to meetings this past week i was just exhausted. just being in meetings. almost unbearable. :|
    In 2 cases i left briefly (big meetings with more than 50 people). in one it was impossible. or not timely.
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,195 Member
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    bananasandoranges wrote: »
    Machka
    Evidently "Venlafaxine-XR demonstrated a 73.7% success rate".
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10211533/

    There are, of course 2-3 weeks of side effects, but then everything is just - - - - - -
    No more big ups and downs in emotions, and that is much better for me.

    I hope you can find a way through. :)

    Response:
    Machka, What's seems most important here is that ...you ...have found what it works for ...you!

    Wouldn't it be something if medicine and life hacks were a one-size-fits all! if all medicines, approaches had the same effect on everyone!

    I remember last time you brought up this subject and suggestion a few months ago you said that even if it's placebo effect you were happy with it. I think it's so important to respect other's real experience of treatment and choices. I certainly aim to as much as possible!

    The article cited says "Venlafaxine-XR demonstrated a 73.7% success rate, which was statistically significantly greater than that of the studied SSRIs (61.1%) and TCAs (57.9%) "

    I had not heard of success rate of 60 or 75% and since it didn't say double blind, nor placebo, nor refer to specifics, (what is qualified as success, how many people dropped out, reference to the specific tests since it was a meta) I googled the same with
    double-blind and
    placebo
    in the last year and came upon some of this -

    That half of research by pharmaceutical companies are not published.

    A serious ex-boyfriend years back was a MD student and here they have to do a short thesis - 25 pages - in the end of their studies. He said an option (which he didn't take) was a "ready-made" study produced by pharmaceutical company. Surely not deontological, but can take a round about form- financing for studies in a field- defunding if results are not "fruitful". or something else.

    I found one very broad one 18000+ people that found no difference between antidepressants and placebo - im unable to find it again.

    A lot say several people dropped out due to unpleasant side effects. often those people are not part of final statistics.
    Then this one below which is a bit strong.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172306/

    Which says that.

    "analyses of the published data and the unpublished data that were hidden by drug companies reveals that most (if not all) of the benefits are due to the placebo effect. Some antidepressants increase serotonin levels, some decrease it, and some have no effect at all on serotonin. Nevertheless, they all show the same therapeutic benefit. Even the small statistical difference between antidepressants and placebos may be an enhanced placebo effect, due to the fact that most patients and doctors in clinical trials successfully break blind. The serotonin theory is as close as any theory in the history of science to having been proved wrong." Wow!
    That's for SSRI, but the study cited above says SSRIs have more than 60%

    I remember discussion one that said anti-depressants work about 33% of the time but about half of that at least is placebo effect and found a few that seem to echo that. you had said that if it was placebo it was okay for you! I can certainly understand that position and you certainly could be part of the - apparently small (depending on studies) proportion that benefit truly chemically, and with few side effects. That is fortunate...for you!


    Have you found anything that works for you? You often sound unhappy and stressed so I wonder if you've found any solutions. I never thought I'd use anti-depressants. In fact, I was determined to get through life without them.

    Then 2 things happened ... my hot flashes became too much for me and disaster struck (husband's accident). My gynaecologic-oncologist (treating me for pre-cancer of female parts) put me on what I'm on for my hot flashes, but it also seems to have a nice side effect of neutralising my emotions.

    Nevertheless, I don't want to depend on drugs alone to relieve my stress levels and relieving my stress levels is a topic on my mind a lot.


    Happy for others to chime in here too ...

    What have you done to reduce your stress levels?


    This area is still a work in progress for me, but these are some things which seem to help:

    - Saying "no". I have dropped a number of things I was involved in and have backed off some others. In some cases that involved ensuring that I am redundant - that there is someone else who can do my job if I weren't around for a few weeks. With my cycling club, for example, I've made sure my whole club management has access to the same things I do so that they can go in and make updates on the website or whatever.

    - Addressing the cause of the stress. Uni came to an end. :) I am so glad I am not in classes now!! I have started taking a Friday off every other week so that I can spend more time with my husband and at home dealing with home stuff. That is wonderful! Dealing with home stuff - like purging my bathroom, going through my uni notes and letting my husband shred most of them, etc. This will take a while, but the goal is to have less stuff I need to think about or do something with.

    And then the usual stress-relieving stuff:

    - Exercise. I find that exercising an hour or more gives me time to think through things and mentally deal with them. I also find that exercising hard for a shorter time, like half an hour, is a great way to burn off frustration.

    - Sleep. I am sleeping more now than when I was in uni. When I was in uni, it was a good night if I got 6.5 hours of sleep (and somewhere between 8 and 9 hours 2 nights on the weekend). Now I aim for 7.5 hours of sleep (and somewhere between 9 and 10 hours 2 nights on the weekend). I would like to increase the 7.5 to 8 at some point, but I've had to ease my way up to 7.5 so 8 may happen yet.

    - Music. I play music at work and at home quite a bit. When I was in uni, it was always classical or instrumental background music and generally on the quieter, calmer side so I could focus. Now it's a variety and I'm enjoying that.

    - Creating a "nest" for myself consisting of my new armchair, footstool, little computer desk for my laptop, lamp, and today I bought a cushion which I think will add to the comfort. I also purchase new comfy pjs every few months. I didn't have much of anything a few years ago, but now I've got a nice little collection. So I can relax in my chair in my pjs with my music playing in the evenings with a cup of tea and my colouring. :)

    - And other things I didn't do while in uni like gardening and enjoying the flowers coming up, reading novels, colouring, and watching movies.


    Machka in Oz

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