"the Daniel fast"... and what it did for me...

TheSlorax

It would lower teen pregnancy rate as well as lower the amount of tax dollars going into helping this teen. It would also prevent STDs from spreading.... The only way their personal life would affect the community is through the amount of governmental support (tax dollars)

No it wouldnt, lol.

Sex education is a better way to prevent those things, along with more readily available sexual health services.

pass out condoms in schools and let's see what happens to the teen pregnancy rate

'Cause teen boys are SO on board with using condoms ...

Teenagers are idiots. We were allidiots when we were teenagers. They do dumb things. Some get lucky and come out unscathed. But teens have been having sex since the first one crawled out of the ooze.

unfortunately they are not, but what I'm saying is if sex is more acceptable and taught how to be done safely with less risk of disease or pregnancy there will be a positive correlation in the teen pregnancy rate. unfortunately teenagers are idiots and they will continue to have sex and be stupid.

I'm not against it at all. I just think whatever we do is ineffective. It seems like the teen prgnancy rate falls for a while, then rises again, then falls, then rises.

We had sex ed in my school. We learned all the stuff about BC and STDs and everything. Yet there was a VERY high rate of pregnancy there during my time (including me).

My mother even kept offering to take me to get on the pill and I repeatedly refused. I was an idiot. I had the mentality that an honor-roll student from a middle-class family wasn't going to end up pregnant young.

Logically, I knew it was possible. But teenage brain ruled.

I think, though, if we reach one kid, it's probably worth it.

I think that's actually a great point. from what I understand, as an adolescent and teen the part of the brain that weighs out consequences is not fully formed. after I learned that, the stupid **** I and other kids did made a lot more sense.

I used to work at a group home with delinquent teen boys. the derp there was unmeasurable. I loved the kids but I'm sure you can imagine. my favorite part of my job was, after they did something REALLY stupid, asking, "how, when, and why did you think that was even remotely a good idea?" the blank look on their faces every time was priceless.

ladypitek

It's ok...ignorant people say stupid things. If you believe in God and the bible (and you can't say you believe in God if you dont believe his word), then you know what happened to Daniel in the Lions Den and why, you know what fasting means and why we do it, you know what sexual impurity is and what it means, you know what Gd says about marriage and sex before marriage. If you dont know, then you're ignorant. If you want to know, go read the WORD! If you don't want to know, then don't ask. The sad thing is that you want to know, but you don't like the answer because it doesnt sit well with your soul, and it means having to raise your standards and be responsible with the truth you've been given (God's word), but that would just be too much for you and so you take to sarcasm and slander in order to make yourself feel better. Good luck with that.

OP - Obviously, you did something right! It worked and praise God for it!

The Bible also says that if I get raped I am required to marry my rapist or be put to death, and if I'm married and my husband dies I have to marry his brother. GOD'S WORD!!! I don't think you should be calling other people ignorant when your book is FULL of inconsistencies and you've only bothered to read the selected sections that fit with your world view. Also, I hope you don't eat swine or wear cotton and linen together, you might be smote.

Isn't there something about eating seafood aswell in the 10 commandments? I'll be checking diaries!!!!

That's not in the 10 Commandments. :-)

But the 10 Commandments are the only pasrt of the Old Testament Christians have to follow, I'm told. They ignore the rest. Something about a new covenent.

The New Covenant effectively invalidated the entire Old Testament.

EXCEPT for Adam and Eve and the Ten Commandments.

And Noah and the flood, and the story of Lot and his wife, and Moses and the golden calf...again, picking and choosing which stories fit best with your world view and ignoring all the rest. Makes sense.

nomeejerome

What the hell is going on in here?

Shenanigans.

Got it. Carry on.

It looks like popcorn is needed for this one......

rml_16

I used to work at a group home with delinquent teen boys.

I had that job! But it was girls.

Oh, the stories I have.

But then, a lot of adults behaved idiotically, too. It was lovely the night cops came by at 10 p.m. and served a warrant on one of our mist difficult (and LARGE) girls on one of the very few nights she actually went easily and qiestly to bed and was asleep. And we couldn't lock them in anywhere, either.

Then the cops sat in their cars with the lights going right behind her bedroom for a good hour.

BeachIron

It's ok...ignorant people say stupid things. If you believe in God and the bible (and you can't say you believe in God if you dont believe his word), then you know what happened to Daniel in the Lions Den and why, you know what fasting means and why we do it, you know what sexual impurity is and what it means, you know what Gd says about marriage and sex before marriage. If you dont know, then you're ignorant. If you want to know, go read the WORD!

Allah?

Torah?

Buddha?

Cheesecake?

Strippers?

Would someone please clue me in on this word? Please???? :sad:

PikaKnight

It's ok...ignorant people say stupid things. If you believe in God and the bible (and you can't say you believe in God if you dont believe his word), then you know what happened to Daniel in the Lions Den and why, you know what fasting means and why we do it, you know what sexual impurity is and what it means, you know what Gd says about marriage and sex before marriage. If you dont know, then you're ignorant. If you want to know, go read the WORD! If you don't want to know, then don't ask. The sad thing is that you want to know, but you don't like the answer because it doesnt sit well with your soul, and it means having to raise your standards and be responsible with the truth you've been given (God's word), but that would just be too much for you and so you take to sarcasm and slander in order to make yourself feel better. Good luck with that.

OP - Obviously, you did something right! It worked and praise God for it!

The Bible also says that if I get raped I am required to marry my rapist or be put to death, and if I'm married and my husband dies I have to marry his brother. GOD'S WORD!!! I don't think you should be calling other people ignorant when your book is FULL of inconsistencies and you've only bothered to read the selected sections that fit with your world view. Also, I hope you don't eat swine or wear cotton and linen together, you might be smote.

and

That's incredibly ignorant and insulting of you to say. The "word of god" was written by men. Also, there are plenty of religions that have a deity, but not a "bible" of some sort. Unless you're basically saying that your god is the only one that exists, therefore once again being very insulting towards those who have a different belief system than you do.

....in the hi5 kind of way, just to be clear :laugh:

PikaKnight

It would lower teen pregnancy rate as well as lower the amount of tax dollars going into helping this teen. It would also prevent STDs from spreading.... The only way their personal life would affect the community is through the amount of governmental support (tax dollars)

No it wouldnt, lol.

Sex education is a better way to prevent those things, along with more readily available sexual health services.

pass out condoms in schools and let's see what happens to the teen pregnancy rate

They did that in a few places and it lowered. I will search for the links to it later. Too much fun reading the other posts right now.

Edited to clarify - not passed out but made them easily available and free


and to add this:

I'm not against it at all. I just think whatever we do is ineffective. It seems like the teen prgnancy rate falls for a while, then rises again, then falls, then rises.

We had sex ed in my school. We learned all the stuff about BC and STDs and everything. Yet there was a VERY high rate of pregnancy there during my time (including me).

My mother even kept offering to take me to get on the pill and I repeatedly refused. I was an idiot. I had the mentality that an honor-roll student from a middle-class family wasn't going to end up pregnant young.

Logically, I knew it was possible. But teenage brain ruled.

I think, though, if we reach one kid, it's probably worth it.

^very true

doorki

It's ok...ignorant people say stupid things. If you believe in God and the bible (and you can't say you believe in God if you dont believe his word), then you know what happened to Daniel in the Lions Den and why, you know what fasting means and why we do it, you know what sexual impurity is and what it means, you know what Gd says about marriage and sex before marriage. If you dont know, then you're ignorant. If you want to know, go read the WORD!

Allah?

Torah?

Buddha?

Cheesecake?

Strippers?

Would someone please clue me in on this word? Please???? :sad:

ren_ascent

If everyone abstained from sex before marriage then the 20 million slaves used in the sex trade could be free. There wouldn't be rapings all over the world.
It might not make much of a difference individually, but I personally believe the world would be a better place if everyone just had one sexual partner.

Riiiiiight. Because abstaining from sex cures mental disorders. Just check out what abstinence has done for the Catholic church! Also, have you never heard of husbands raping their wives? It IS possible! Is my sarcasm font working?

Sovictorrious

I did not read all the replies. But I know I would never do this. The Good Lord made food for me to eat. Thus why I almost die when I don't.

P'S when I want to be close to God I use my bible app and read bumper stickers on the cars of Christians.

TheSlorax

I used to work at a group home with delinquent teen boys.

I had that job! But it was girls.

Oh, the stories I have.

But then, a lot of adults behaved idiotically, too. It was lovely the night cops came by at 10 p.m. and served a warrant on one of our mist difficult (and LARGE) girls on one of the very few nights she actually went easily and qiestly to bed and was asleep. And we couldn't lock them in anywhere, either.

Then the cops sat in their cars with the lights going right behind her bedroom for a good hour.

I worked at the girls' home shortly before I left, but I enjoyed the boys a lot more. the girls were too crafty and two-faced. the boys were not good at hiding anything, particularly their feelings -- if they hated you they let you know.

as for the adults.... the reason I left the job was because of the way the home was run (of course to a lesser degree, the pay). the adults were so worried about each other and the staff that they paid almost no attention to the kids. staff turnover was so high we had a new employee every week (and people were fired over things like burning muffins, I'm NOT joking). it was ridiculous, petty, and complete mayhem. I used to say to the kids, "even adults act stupid. look around and watch for who's making bad decisions. your job is to do what you need to do even when life is unfair. this place is going to be great for teaching you that."

PikaKnight

It's ok...ignorant people say stupid things. If you believe in God and the bible (and you can't say you believe in God if you dont believe his word), then you know what happened to Daniel in the Lions Den and why, you know what fasting means and why we do it, you know what sexual impurity is and what it means, you know what Gd says about marriage and sex before marriage. If you dont know, then you're ignorant. If you want to know, go read the WORD!

Allah?

Torah?

Buddha?

Cheesecake?

Strippers?

Would someone please clue me in on this word? Please???? :sad:

42...oh wait, that's a number..... ---> Forty-two. Fixed it!

rml_16

If everyone abstained from sex before marriage then the 20 million slaves used in the sex trade could be free. There wouldn't be rapings all over the world.
It might not make much of a difference individually, but I personally believe the world would be a better place if everyone just had one sexual partner.

Riiiiiight. Because abstaining from sex cures mental disorders. Just check out what abstinence has done for the Catholic church! Also, have you never heard of husbands raping their wives? It IS possible! Is my sarcasm font working?

Prostitutes get raped all the time,

TheSlorax

pass out condoms in schools and let's see what happens to the teen pregnancy rate

They did that in a few places and it lowered. I will search for the links to it later. Too much fun reading the other posts right now.

Edited to clarify - not passed out but made them easily available and free.

yup, that is what I meant. passed out would mean they would be made into balloon animals as whierd said. I meant more along the lines of, take the shame and stigma away from sex so that it can be done safely.

usmcmp

I don't get that whole "Sweating like a wh*re in church" thing. I sweat the same when I am in a church as I do when I am in the grocery store.

CallMeCupcakeDammit

If everyone abstained from sex before marriage then the 20 million slaves used in the sex trade could be free. There wouldn't be rapings all over the world.
It might not make much of a difference individually, but I personally believe the world would be a better place if everyone just had one sexual partner.

I have no words, so...

rml_16

as for the adults.... the reason I left the job was because of the way the home was run (of course to a lesser degree, the pay). the adults were so worried about each other and the staff that they paid almost no attention to the kids. staff turnover was so high we had a new employee every week (and people were fired over things like burning muffins, I'm NOT joking). it was ridiculous, petty, and complete mayhem

Yikes! It wasn't quite that bad where I was. The biggest issues were that the supervisors and social workers spent as little possible time with the kids as they could get away with. A lot of the social workers didn't even know the names of the kids they were supposed to be advocating for and it wasn't that big of a place! I think they each had 14-16 girls on their plate.

ndj1979

I would say this thread has been officially "derailed" ....

Iron_Feline

If everyone abstained from sex before marriage then the 20 million slaves used in the sex trade could be free. There wouldn't be rapings all over the world.
It might not make much of a difference individually, but I personally believe the world would be a better place if everyone just had one sexual partner.

Hmmm, I don't want to get married - does that mean I can never have sex?

*&@) that

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

ndj1979

If everyone abstained from sex before marriage then the 20 million slaves used in the sex trade could be free. There wouldn't be rapings all over the world.
It might not make much of a difference individually, but I personally believe the world would be a better place if everyone just had one sexual partner.

I have no words, so...

so sex before marriage leads to sex slavery ...interesting hypothesis....

Right, and if we all had one sexual partner there would be no wars, poverty, floods, famine, etc...and there would be rainbows everywhere and raspberry ketones really would burn body fat and increase muscle mass....and we could fly on Unicorns to the moon...

PikaKnight

I had the hardest time reading that huge block of text. Can you next please pray for some punctuation, paragraph structure, caps lock etiquette, and less smiley usage?

I wish there was a place we could report *kitten* and them kicked off MFP. So sick of these people. It's ruining my otherwise sunny disposition.

Gets upset at supposed "*kitten*" but then says something not really nice either......


Seems legit

TheSlorax

I had the hardest time reading that huge block of text. Can you next please pray for some punctuation, paragraph structure, caps lock etiquette, and less smiley usage?

I wish there was a place we could report *kitten* and get them kicked off MFP. So sick of these people. It's ruining my otherwise sunny disposition.

I wish there was a place people could download a sense of humor. or even a "sunny disposition."

rml_16

I had the hardest time reading that huge block of text. Can you next please pray for some punctuation, paragraph structure, caps lock etiquette, and less smiley usage?

I wish there was a place we could report *kitten* and them kicked off MFP. So sick of these people. It's ruining my otherwise sunny disposition.

Gets upset at supposed "*kitten*" but then says something not really nice either......


Seems legit

Don't tell her about the report function ...

ryry_

I had the hardest time reading that huge block of text. Can you next please pray for some punctuation, paragraph structure, caps lock etiquette, and less smiley usage?

I wish there was a place we could report *kitten* and them kicked off MFP. So sick of these people. It's ruining my otherwise sunny disposition.

Gets upset at supposed "*kitten*" but then says something not really nice either......


Seems legit

Points out irony of posters content and then uses common catch phrase.....

#Skeptical

mrslcoop

In because I'm shocked this thread hasn't been locked yet.....

TX_Rhon

Much more interesting that work today.

Carry on.........

PikaKnight

I had the hardest time reading that huge block of text. Can you next please pray for some punctuation, paragraph structure, caps lock etiquette, and less smiley usage?

I wish there was a place we could report *kitten* and them kicked off MFP. So sick of these people. It's ruining my otherwise sunny disposition.

Gets upset at supposed "*kitten*" but then says something not really nice either......


Seems legit

Points out irony of posters content and then uses common catch phrase.....

#Skeptical

:laugh: :flowerforyou:

CallMeCupcakeDammit

I had the hardest time reading that huge block of text. Can you next please pray for some punctuation, paragraph structure, caps lock etiquette, and less smiley usage?

I wish there was a place we could report *kitten* and get them kicked off MFP. So sick of these people. It's ruining my otherwise sunny disposition.

I wish there was a place people could download a sense of humor. or even a "sunny disposition."

Davina_JH

I wish there was a place we could report *kitten* and get them kicked off MFP. So sick of these people. It's ruining my otherwise sunny disposition.

^ Okay, reported.


Seriously though,

socajam

I had the hardest time reading that huge block of text. Can you next please pray for some punctuation, paragraph structure, caps lock etiquette, and less smiley usage?

I wish there was a place we could report a**holes and get them kicked off MFP. So sick of these people. It's ruining my otherwise sunny disposition. All some people do is read posts and look for places to pick fights. You guys are bullies and you should just keep it to yourselves.

Maybe the a**holes would want to report you and have you kicked off MFP for not being very rational.

Your sunny disposition must be very low if having people state their opinion affects you this badly.