Motivation or "hate speech"?

copselily

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I now find anyone who doesn't look after themselves exceptionally unattractive, especially when they think it's normal to be fat. I think it's disgusting people posting pictures saying this is what normal people look like, no it isn't, it's what unhealthy people look like. (extremely controversial post)

I agree with you. The normal human body is not covered in way extra fluffy fat.

Oh yay, NORMAL, let's do normal. There is a thing called bell shaped curve. Inside it resides all the normal.

That bell shaped curve still won't include a body covered in extra fluffy fat.

Hmm, I think that you are confusing "my ideal" with "normal".


At my current weight, I may not be your ideal, but I'm pretty normal. Boring even. Really super normal and not terribly exciting.

Yeah. The word normal is kind of problematic.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

This is fluffy................and it is not normal body type. She is clearly overweight.

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copselily

This is fluffy................and it is not normal body type. She is clearly overweight.

I think maybe you're equating normal with health?

'Normal' for me, is more like the 'average' or 'standard'. I'd say being fat is normal probably because so many people are fat.

FancyPantsFran

For the love of humanity ... now "fat" is a protected class?

This is the sort of thing that makes me want to go all Ruby Ridge and say "**** society. I'll just go hide out in the woods until the world ends."

fat as a protected class..hahahahha.. don't give anyone any ideas hahahah

alyhuggan

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I now find anyone who doesn't look after themselves exceptionally unattractive, especially when they think it's normal to be fat. I think it's disgusting people posting pictures saying this is what normal people look like, no it isn't, it's what unhealthy people look like. (extremely controversial post)

I agree with you. The normal human body is not covered in way extra fluffy fat.

Oh yay, NORMAL, let's do normal. There is a thing called bell shaped curve. Inside it resides all the normal.

That bell shaped curve still won't include a body covered in extra fluffy fat.

Hmm, I think that you are confusing "my ideal" with "normal".


At my current weight, I may not be your ideal, but I'm pretty normal. Boring even. Really super normal and not terribly exciting.

Yeah. The word normal is kind of problematic.

Just looked at the page and it's got people that look 25 stone + saying they are sexy, I actually feel quite sick. I'm sorry but that isn't curvy. That's disgusting.

DavPul

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Ummm..... No. That's the way you choose to read it. She went from unhappy with herself to satisfied with her achievements. Anyone can do the same. Her personal goals don't have to be yours.

DavPul, I quit replying to you a while ago because you misinterpret everything I say and pretty much just state the obvious. Just put me on ignore or something.

Oh, okay, I'll get right on that.....

PikaKnight

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Ummm..... No. That's the way you choose to read it. She went from unhappy with herself to satisfied with her achievements. Anyone can do the same. Her personal goals don't have to be yours.

DavPul, I quit replying to you a while ago because you misinterpret everything I say and pretty much just state the obvious. Just put me on ignore or something.

Oh, okay, I'll get right on that.....

DavPul

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Ummm..... No. That's the way you choose to read it. She went from unhappy with herself to satisfied with her achievements. Anyone can do the same. Her personal goals don't have to be yours.

DavPul, I quit replying to you a while ago because you misinterpret everything I say and pretty much just state the obvious. Just put me on ignore or something.

So why are you replying to him now if you quit replying to him awhile ago? And since you're the one getting your jimmies rustled, why would he be the one to have to put you on ignore?

Logic. Failed.

ETA: Not even replying to this, it's a no win situation.

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Hauntinglyfit

I think i would like to unsubscribe from this thread now. I am gonna go work on my squat booty.

You too can get a squat booty! What's your excuse??

Mother_Superior

I think i would like to unsubscribe from this thread now. I am gonna go work on my squat booty.

You too can get a squat booty! What's your excuse??

EvgeniZyntx

This is fluffy................and it is not normal body type. She is clearly overweight.

She's overweight and yet she's also absolutely normal and beautiful.
Normal distribution requires highs and lows. One does not have to be within some ideal limits.
It's a personal choice - I chose not to be overweight but she doesn't have extra arms or legs.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

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For the love of humanity ... now "fat" is a protected class?

This is the sort of thing that makes me want to go all Ruby Ridge and say "**** society. I'll just go hide out in the woods until the world ends."

fat as a protected class..hahahahha.. don't give anyone any ideas hahahah

Unfortunately it is already happening............I had to go to Urgent Care for strep throat and the Dr told me I should talk to my family physician about getting on disability for my obesity.

Absolutely disgusting.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

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This is fluffy................and it is not normal body type. She is clearly overweight.

She's overweight and yet she's also absolutely normal and beautiful.
Normal distribution requires highs and lows. One does not have to be within some ideal limits.
It's a personal choice - I chose not to be overweight but she doesn't have extra arms or legs.

I am shaped the same way and its disgusting. She is still in the obese category...........not merely overweight. Yes, she has a pretty face.

I also get told that all the time...........you have a pretty face, but if you would lose some weight you would be stunningly beautiful.

brower47

i dont have to agree OR disagree. Anyone ever hear of The First Amendment of the United States Constitution? It protects the right to freedom of expression.

LET IT BE!

If this had anything to do with the government dictating what she said, I'd agree with you. Since the government has nothing to do with this case, the application of the first amendment wouldn't even begin to apply here.

*personal pet peeve: crying first amendment when the government is no where in sight

BeachIron

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i dont have to agree OR disagree. Anyone ever hear of The First Amendment of the United States Constitution? It protects the right to freedom of expression.

LET IT BE!

If this had anything to do with the government dictating what she said, I'd agree with you. Since the government has nothing to do with this case, the application of the first amendment wouldn't even begin to apply here.

*personal pet peeve: crying first amendment when the government is no where in sight

When you're 12, mom, dad and the government are all just meanies

PikaKnight

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i dont have to agree OR disagree. Anyone ever hear of The First Amendment of the United States Constitution? It protects the right to freedom of expression.

LET IT BE!

If this had anything to do with the government dictating what she said, I'd agree with you. Since the government has nothing to do with this case, the application of the first amendment wouldn't even begin to apply here.

*personal pet peeve: crying first amendment when the government is no where in sight

When you're 12, mom, dad and the government are all just meanies

EvgeniZyntx

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This is fluffy................and it is not normal body type. She is clearly overweight.

She's overweight and yet she's also absolutely normal and beautiful.
Normal distribution requires highs and lows. One does not have to be within some ideal limits.
It's a personal choice - I chose not to be overweight but she doesn't have extra arms or legs.

I am shaped the same way and its disgusting. She is still in the obese category...........not merely overweight. Yes, she has a pretty face.

I also get told that all the time...........you have a pretty face, but if you would lose some weight you would be stunningly beautiful.

I hope you find self love. There no need to be disgusted to work on self improvements. It's likely that disgust is actually counter productive. Of course, being comfortable with obesity is also counter productive to fitness and health, in general.


:flowerforyou:

DamePiglet

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This is fluffy................and it is not normal body type. She is clearly overweight.

She's overweight and yet she's also absolutely normal and beautiful.
Normal distribution requires highs and lows. One does not have to be within some ideal limits.
It's a personal choice - I chose not to be overweight but she doesn't have extra arms or legs.

I am shaped the same way and its disgusting. She is still in the obese category...........not merely overweight. Yes, she has a pretty face.

I also get told that all the time...........you have a pretty face, but if you would lose some weight you would be stunningly beautiful.

I don't know that lady or whether or not she's obese.
Even though she's overweight, she might be perfectly healthy otherwise.

I think she's attractive and she appears confident.

****
I find your avatar and your moniker a curious combination.

j6o4

LOL some of the arguments in this debate are unclear and therefor do not make sence, but you people provided me with entertainment. :laugh:

jofjltncb6

*twitch*

Sarauk2sf

Also, my perception is that the OP does not personally think the things she stated in the OP. She was presenting two different ways of thinking about it and was actually being a little bit sarcastic when she said the negative things about the "fit mom" (LOL).

^^this was apparent I thought, but it seems to have been missed by the majority.

Mr_Knight

I think most people aren't actually responding to the OP (or even to responses to the OP). They're responding to a chain that started with a post that came right afterward the OP that - basically - called the fit mom in question (paraphrasing) "a heartless ***** who is too vain to spend time with her kids".

Sarauk2sf

I think most people aren't actually responding to the OP (or even to responses to the OP). They're responding to a chain that started with a since-deleted post that came right afterward the OP that - basically - called the fit mom in question (paraphrasing) "a heartless ***** who is too vain to spend time with her kids".

Thanks. Gotta love the lack of context when that happens

Mr_Knight

Classic MFP - discussion went off the rails before the end of page 1. :laugh:

jofjltncb6

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I think most people aren't actually responding to the OP (or even to responses to the OP). They're responding to a chain that started with a since-deleted post that came right afterward the OP that - basically - called the fit mom in question (paraphrasing) "a heartless ***** who is too vain to spend time with her kids".

Thanks. Gotta love the lack of context when that happens

Confession: I didn't even make it to the end of page one before I jumped in.

Otterluv

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This is fluffy................and it is not normal body type. She is clearly overweight.

She's overweight and yet she's also absolutely normal and beautiful.
Normal distribution requires highs and lows. One does not have to be within some ideal limits.
It's a personal choice - I chose not to be overweight but she doesn't have extra arms or legs.

I am shaped the same way and its disgusting. She is still in the obese category...........not merely overweight. Yes, she has a pretty face.

I also get told that all the time...........you have a pretty face, but if you would lose some weight you would be stunningly beautiful.

I hope you find self love. There no need to be disgusted to work on self improvements. It's likely that disgust is actually counter productive. Of course, being comfortable with obesity is also counter productive to fitness and health, in general.


:flowerforyou:

I agree completely. I've lost a lot of weight. A LOT. I have a long way to go yet. But, I'm not disgusted by my current self just because I have a long way to go. Here is why I can't find my body disgusting:

It can deadlift 205lbs for reps.
It can climb mountainsides.
It can run on trails for hours, for miles.
It can scramble up sketchy hillsides, crawl under brush, and hunt out mushrooms.
It can jump off of cliffsides into beautiful mountain rivers.
It can love and be loved.

I really hope that you can find that sort of worth for yourself, and come to terms with your present body while working towards improvement, and feel pride and appreciation as you go :flowerforyou:

jofjltncb6

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This is fluffy................and it is not normal body type. She is clearly overweight.

She's overweight and yet she's also absolutely normal and beautiful.
Normal distribution requires highs and lows. One does not have to be within some ideal limits.
It's a personal choice - I chose not to be overweight but she doesn't have extra arms or legs.

I am shaped the same way and its disgusting. She is still in the obese category...........not merely overweight. Yes, she has a pretty face.

I also get told that all the time...........you have a pretty face, but if you would lose some weight you would be stunningly beautiful.

I hope you find self love. There no need to be disgusted to work on self improvements. It's likely that disgust is actually counter productive. Of course, being comfortable with obesity is also counter productive to fitness and health, in general.


:flowerforyou:

I agree completely. I've lost a lot of weight. A LOT. I have a long way to go yet. But, I'm not disgusted by my current self just because I have a long way to go. Here is why I can't find my body disgusting:

It can deadlift 205lbs for reps.
It can climb mountainsides.
It can run on trails for hours, for miles.
It can scramble up sketchy hillsides, crawl under brush, and hunt out mushrooms.
It can jump off of cliffsides into beautiful mountain rivers.
It can love and be loved.

I really hope that you can find that sort of worth for yourself, and come to terms with your present body while working towards improvement, and feeling pride and appreciation as you go :flowerforyou:

Booyah.

:drinker:

FlaxMilk

Be delusional if you want, but don't tell me fat is beautiful.

I'm partial to the more slender look myself, but what looks good to me doesn't look good to everyone. I won't tell you that you have to think fat is beautiful, but I will tell you that some people do find fat beautiful.

PikaKnight

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Also, my perception is that the OP does not personally think the things she stated in the OP. She was presenting two different ways of thinking about it and was actually being a little bit sarcastic when she said the negative things about the "fit mom" (LOL).

^^this was apparent I thought, but it seems to have been missed by the majority.

That's not surprising, to be honest. There are too many people (even on these forums) that tend to miss text sarcasm or/and look for reasons to get butthurt.