I like sugar
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I eat something sugary every day. I feel like the body needs a little bit or else you'll get low blood sugar and wonk out. :flowerforyou:
Me too
I have to end each meal with something sweet; or eat at least one thing sweet daily.
If not, I'll go Hulk Smash and maybe finish a full pint of ice cream on the last day of the week 0 -
Sugar is the reason I exercise, and it creates a 1:1 ratio. The more exercise I manage, the more sugar I can eat!0
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True, but weight loss and exercise does influence cholesterol and can reduce pattern B's in the blood. Not to the extend of course if one was to reduce the foods that also contribute.
Ok I have to respond to this, before I started over a year ago, I was in the doctor's office every 2 weeks for heart, lung, and my blood work was showing I was definitely in danger of diabetes. 1 year later, 93 lbs later lost while eating daily ice cream, cookies, cupcakes, brownies, etc. I just had all my blood work re done and heart issues have improved, lung issues are improving, and my blood work was perfect. To the point my doctor joked that I must have sent someone else in for it.
So, you continue with your sugar is horrible and we're all going to die from the toxins while I enjoy myself and continue to improve my health.
In order to lose 93lb (big congrats by the way!) you would have no doubt restricted your calories. The easiest way to restrict calories is to reduce the amount of calorie dense food you ate, such as sugar and fats. I'm not surprised your blood work has improved. However there is no link between blood cholesterol and heart disease. The link is actually whether you are a Pattern B LDL type person.0 -
The only thing I'd be worried about is my blood sugar levels and diabetes if I were you0
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some people can eat sugar and not have an adverse effect, some people can't. What gets my goat is when people think that because something works for them it must work for other people - complete BS.0
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What if someone has excellent blood work panels, is considered very low risk for heart disease by their doctor, has normal blood pressure, has glucose numbers in the normal range, exercises regularly, has a normal bmi/weight, has no other risk factors (non-smoker etc), has a lower bf% and has no health problems. Are you still saying the in face of all the signs that point to someone being perfectly healthy, while still eating sugar, they're not in fact healthy?
Does such a person exist? How much added sugar do they eat and do their blood work panels include a test called polyacrylamide gradient gel electrophoresis?
Yes, I exist. I'm healthy. 48 yo, 180 lbs, 6', 17% bf! I exercise 6 to 7 days a week, mostly heavy lifting with a little cardio, and I eat whatever I want within about a 2600 calorie range right now, coming off about 3000. My macros are set for 40/30/30, although my primary concern is about 180g of protein, the rest falls into place if I do that. That's it. No health issues at all. Last check up, my doctor told me I was like a healthy 20-year-old, although, I think he was just being nice. My chiropractor told me a have a 25 year-old spine, meaning, it's healthy and isn't stiff like someone my age, typically. I'm also constantly told I look younger than my age. People where I work think I'm in my 30's. All this to say, yes, I'm in great health, great shape, and I consume sugar. OMG!
I thought the same thing about my self. 36, female, smal, petite, excersie 4 - 6 days a week, dont smoke. Always told I look ten years younger. No medical isues, glowing physical check ups. Look ten years younger. Then I had a carotid body tumor removed on 11/1/13 and then on 11/22/13 I had a ruptured brain anuerism. I was given 50/50 to survive.
I made it through relatively unscathed and I have my health to thank for that.
My point is thinking you are healthy is great. You can be healthy. But thinking you are immune to health risks is bogus. I was in the prime of my life and went down like a fly.
I chose not eat sugar and junk food. I know I probably can in moderation but I only have one life to live and I want to set a good example for my kids and others. Plus for a petite person like myself I cant consume those types of calories with out consequences. Two bites of ice cream for me could have the same caloric content that I would get if I made myself a large filling salad. Plus the added vitamins, nutrients, and fiber I get out of a healthy meal/snack far out weighs the temptation of a twinky or pint of ice cream.
Just my HMO.
Ok, so IYO, sugar caused a tumor?
WTF?
I didn't say I was immune to disease or dying someday. I said I'm currently healthy. If I get a tumor, or cancer, or lukemia, or have a stroke, I'll deal with it. Jesus Christ. WTF does any of that have to do with eating sweets?
LOL At least you'll know where to catch the next bus to "Sugar is Evil-town" if something does happen. Sugar threads never end well. :flowerforyou:0 -
True, but weight loss and exercise does influence cholesterol and can reduce pattern B's in the blood. Not to the extend of course if one was to reduce the foods that also contribute.In order to lose 93lb (big congrats by the way!) you would have no doubt restricted your calories. The easiest way to restrict calories is to reduce the amount of calorie dense food you ate, such as sugar and fats. I'm not surprised your blood work has improved. However there is no link between blood cholesterol and heart disease. The link is actually whether you are a Pattern B LDL type person.
Totally agree, I don't see the point however in exercising just to enable sugar eating. Exercise is great in strengthening muscles and bones, great for lifting your mood, improving blood circulation and reducing visceral fat. It's a bit daft to exercise simply to justify a sweet tooth, though. This thread is mostly a huge denial and justification exercise, nobody has actually said that sugar is good for them because we all know the truth!0 -
Avoiding sugar is not just a weight loss aim, that's only a small part of it.
Eating sugar (sucrose/fructose) increases visceral fat, increases blood triglycerides, makes insulin less efficient increasing the risk of diabetes and heart disease. It also changes our cholesterol transportation system (LDL) from safe pattern A to risky pattern B, again putting you at risk from heart disease. High sugar intake is also linked to pancreatic cancer, kidney disease and high blood pressure.
The only sugar (fructose) you should eat is in whole fruit and vegetables.
You can't tell me what to do!
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True, but weight loss and exercise does influence cholesterol and can reduce pattern B's in the blood. Not to the extend of course if one was to reduce the foods that also contribute.In order to lose 93lb (big congrats by the way!) you would have no doubt restricted your calories. The easiest way to restrict calories is to reduce the amount of calorie dense food you ate, such as sugar and fats. I'm not surprised your blood work has improved. However there is no link between blood cholesterol and heart disease. The link is actually whether you are a Pattern B LDL type person.
Totally agree, I don't see the point however in exercising just to enable sugar eating. Exercise is great in strengthening muscles and bones, great for lifting your mood, improving blood circulation and reducing visceral fat. It's a bit daft to exercise simply to justify a sweet tooth, though. This thread is mostly a huge denial and justification exercise, nobody has actually said that sugar is good for them because we all know the truth!
There is absolutely a ton of denial and justification going on in this thread.
But I don't think you're aware of where it's coming from0 -
:yawn: So.Incredibly.Tiresome. The sugar evangelists and the deniers both.0
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:yawn: So.Incredibly.Tiresome. The sugar evangelists and the deniers both.
Thank you for taking the time to share your opinion. :flowerforyou:0 -
:flowerforyou: You are welcome! :flowerforyou:0
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What's going on in here? Am I missing the sugar party? Here, I brought an offering.
For every time someone mentions the word "addiction" or "evil" I'll add a sprinkle.0 -
Ok I have to respond to this, before I started over a year ago, I was in the doctor's office every 2 weeks for heart, lung, and my blood work was showing I was definitely in danger of diabetes. 1 year later, 93 lbs later lost while eating daily ice cream, cookies, cupcakes, brownies, etc. I just had all my blood work re done and heart issues have improved, lung issues are improving, and my blood work was perfect. To the point my doctor joked that I must have sent someone else in for it.
So, you continue with your sugar is horrible and we're all going to die from the toxins while I enjoy myself and continue to improve my health.
In order to lose 93lb (big congrats by the way!) you would have no doubt restricted your calories. The easiest way to restrict calories is to reduce the amount of calorie dense food you ate, such as sugar and fats. I'm not surprised your blood work has improved. However there is no link between blood cholesterol and heart disease. The link is actually whether you are a Pattern B LDL type person.
Are you a medical professional? You sure are throwing alot of jargon out there I don't even understand. However, I agree with some of the points you are trying to make. But I try to use real cane sugar in anything I eat. I don't like sugar substitutes as they are far worse off than the natural stuff itself. I don't count sugar grahams in anything I eat. I just eat!
All this talk makes me want to eat sponge candy.0 -
Did I just grahams instead of grams? Sugar brain!0
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Ok I have to respond to this, before I started over a year ago, I was in the doctor's office every 2 weeks for heart, lung, and my blood work was showing I was definitely in danger of diabetes. 1 year later, 93 lbs later lost while eating daily ice cream, cookies, cupcakes, brownies, etc. I just had all my blood work re done and heart issues have improved, lung issues are improving, and my blood work was perfect. To the point my doctor joked that I must have sent someone else in for it.
So, you continue with your sugar is horrible and we're all going to die from the toxins while I enjoy myself and continue to improve my health.
In order to lose 93lb (big congrats by the way!) you would have no doubt restricted your calories. The easiest way to restrict calories is to reduce the amount of calorie dense food you ate, such as sugar and fats. I'm not surprised your blood work has improved. However there is no link between blood cholesterol and heart disease. The link is actually whether you are a Pattern B LDL type person.
Are you a medical professional? You sure are throwing alot of jargon out there I don't even understand. However, I agree with some of the points you are trying to make. But I try to use real cane sugar in anything I eat. I don't like sugar substitutes as they are far worse off than the natural stuff itself. I don't count sugar grahams in anything I eat. I just eat!
All this talk makes me want to eat sponge candy.
Sugar substitutes are FAR worse??? ????????????????????????????????0 -
Enjoy 0 -
I exist.
What if someone has excellent blood work panels, is considered very low risk for heart disease by their doctor, has normal blood pressure, has glucose numbers in the normal range, exercises regularly, has a normal bmi/weight, has no other risk factors (non-smoker etc), has a lower bf% and has no health problems. Are you still saying the in face of all the signs that point to someone being perfectly healthy, while still eating sugar, they're not in fact healthy?
Does such a person exist? How much added sugar do they eat and do their blood work panels include a test called polyacrylamide gradient gel electrophoresis?
Enjoy your crappy boring "no added sugar" diet. I'll continue to enjoy my sugars and the fun they fuel in good health.0 -
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I exist.
What if someone has excellent blood work panels, is considered very low risk for heart disease by their doctor, has normal blood pressure, has glucose numbers in the normal range, exercises regularly, has a normal bmi/weight, has no other risk factors (non-smoker etc), has a lower bf% and has no health problems. Are you still saying the in face of all the signs that point to someone being perfectly healthy, while still eating sugar, they're not in fact healthy?
Does such a person exist? How much added sugar do they eat and do their blood work panels include a test called polyacrylamide gradient gel electrophoresis?
Enjoy your crappy boring "no added sugar" diet. I'll continue to enjoy my sugars and the fun they fuel in good health.
I could watch that all day!0 -
i think the taste for sugar is something that is easily lost, and once you loose the taste for it there is no desire to ever have it again. just a thought...0
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Alcohol reduces the functioning of the part of the brain which normally makes decisions in adults, and causes the person to be more impulsive.In the same way you wouldn't tell an alcoholic to moderate alcohol intake - it doesn't work!
Sugar does not.
They aren't even in the same ballpark.0 -
I see the battle against the forces of Derp is being well handled.
proceed.0 -
i have no issue with anyone who wants to eat sugar, its your body you fire away. BUT and its a big BUT . just maybe its this thats making you ill , overweight and possibly miserable having to exercise all this self control you need to stay healthy?
Just maybe?
established views have regularly been overturned in recent years on many many aspects of what was once safe.
Aspestos was in the food chain up until very recently, if you chew tobbaco in America it still is. Nicotine. wow everyone smoked in the 50's. if you go back as far as the turn of the last century, then you have laudinum, cocaine and even herion in regular use and also within regular use within the food chain.(cocaine in Coke anyone?)
So maybe just maybe Fructose should be included in this?
please all keep on doing what makes you happy and if sugar is part of this then thats fine its your buisness.
But let me tell you my story.
i've been Fructose free for a week (well less then 2grams of the stuff a day, well within the limit the liver can cope with)
i've lost 6 lb in weight in that week, without exercise (not a jot) i constantly ate over the Calorie limit i'd set myself, and even added full fat milk and butter back into my diet i even had a glass of wine. and yet i lost 6lb in weight all of it from around my stomach . two inchs to those still using the outdated imperial measurements!
but thats not all. my appetite control has come back. i'm staying here for another week, but see the light at the end of the tunnel. i'll no longer need to log everything i eat soon.likely to start this week.
i started exercise again today and found i had more than enough energy to finish the workout, whereas before i struggled at halfway point. i'm a fit man my best marathon time is 2 hours 55 mins.
i no longer run due to complications with an old knee injury , which resulted with gout/ arthritic type pain, almost constantly. this has vanished! COMPLETLY!!!!i might try a run next week.
my skin has cleared up, no more excema it would seem is another pleasant side effect as well as my gums have stopped bleeding and look hugely more healthy than they did at the start of the week, it was after all my dentist who put me unto this!
My stomach is not bloated, my mood improved, my taste and sense of smell has improved dramtically.
all of this after a week with out Fructose , not sugar , Fructose! i've eaten nuts, apples, bananas and a lot of high sugar content food but the point is its "WHOLE" food. how much sugar did i eat before then your asking. well not a lot (i thought).
which leads to the whole POINT . its hidden fructose that is the problem with most people! you quiet possibly have no idea just how much sugar , or rarther refined Fructose your consuming.
Check it and see. in the meantime. if you want to poison yourself, you go ahead, :happy: :flowerforyou: :drinker:0 -
Thank you Jerry! I would also add that honey and agave nectar are delicious sugars as well. :drinker:0
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i have no issue with anyone who wants to eat sugar, its your body you fire away. BUT and its a big BUT . just maybe its this thats making you ill , overweight and possibly miserable having to exercise all this self control you need to stay healthy?
Just maybe?
established views have regularly been overturned in recent years on many many aspects of what was once safe.
Aspestos was in the food chain up until very recently, if you chew tobbaco in America it still is. Nicotine. wow everyone smoked in the 50's. if you go back as far as the turn of the last century, then you have laudinum, cocaine and even herion in regular use and also within regular use within the food chain.(cocaine in Coke anyone?)
So maybe just maybe Fructose should be included in this?
please all keep on doing what makes you happy and if sugar is part of this then thats fine its your buisness.
But let me tell you my story.
i've been Fructose free for a week (well less then 2grams of the stuff a day, well within the limit the liver can cope with)
i've lost 6 lb in weight in that week, without exercise (not a jot) i constantly ate over the Calorie limit i'd set myself, and even added full fat milk and butter back into my diet i even had a glass of wine. and yet i lost 6lb in weight all of it from around my stomach . two inchs to those still using the outdated imperial measurements!
but thats not all. my appetite control has come back. i'm staying here for another week, but see the light at the end of the tunnel. i'll no longer need to log everything i eat soon.likely to start this week.
i started exercise again today and found i had more than enough energy to finish the workout, whereas before i struggled at halfway point. i'm a fit man my best marathon time is 2 hours 55 mins.
i no longer run due to complications with an old knee injury , which resulted with gout/ arthritic type pain, almost constantly. this has vanished! COMPLETLY!!!!i might try a run next week.
my skin has cleared up, no more excema it would seem is another pleasant side effect as well as my gums have stopped bleeding and look hugely more healthy than they did at the start of the week, it was after all my dentist who put me unto this!
My stomach is not bloated, my mood improved, my taste and sense of smell has improved dramtically.
all of this after a week with out Fructose , not sugar , Fructose! i've eaten nuts, apples, bananas and a lot of high sugar content food but the point is its "WHOLE" food. how much sugar did i eat before then your asking. well not a lot (i thought).
which leads to the whole POINT . its hidden fructose that is the problem with most people! you quiet possibly have no idea just how much sugar , or rarther refined Fructose your consuming.
Check it and see. in the meantime. if you want to poison yourself, you go ahead, :happy: :flowerforyou: :drinker:
Sugar is not a toxin. So you cannot poison yourself with it.
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These anti-sugar crusaders sound like the low-fat 80's crowd followers.
http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-of-nutrition-is-a-carb-a-carb.html0 -
i have no issue with anyone who wants to eat sugar, its your body you fire away. BUT and its a big BUT . just maybe its this thats making you ill , overweight and possibly miserable having to exercise all this self control you need to stay healthy?
Just maybe?
established views have regularly been overturned in recent years on many many aspects of what was once safe.
Aspestos was in the food chain up until very recently, if you chew tobbaco in America it still is. Nicotine. wow everyone smoked in the 50's. if you go back as far as the turn of the last century, then you have laudinum, cocaine and even herion in regular use and also within regular use within the food chain.(cocaine in Coke anyone?)
So maybe just maybe Fructose should be included in this?
please all keep on doing what makes you happy and if sugar is part of this then thats fine its your buisness.
But let me tell you my story.
i've been Fructose free for a week (well less then 2grams of the stuff a day, well within the limit the liver can cope with)
i've lost 6 lb in weight in that week, without exercise (not a jot) i constantly ate over the Calorie limit i'd set myself, and even added full fat milk and butter back into my diet i even had a glass of wine. and yet i lost 6lb in weight all of it from around my stomach . two inchs to those still using the outdated imperial measurements!
but thats not all. my appetite control has come back. i'm staying here for another week, but see the light at the end of the tunnel. i'll no longer need to log everything i eat soon.likely to start this week.
i started exercise again today and found i had more than enough energy to finish the workout, whereas before i struggled at halfway point. i'm a fit man my best marathon time is 2 hours 55 mins.
i no longer run due to complications with an old knee injury , which resulted with gout/ arthritic type pain, almost constantly. this has vanished! COMPLETLY!!!!i might try a run next week.
my skin has cleared up, no more excema it would seem is another pleasant side effect as well as my gums have stopped bleeding and look hugely more healthy than they did at the start of the week, it was after all my dentist who put me unto this!
My stomach is not bloated, my mood improved, my taste and sense of smell has improved dramtically.
all of this after a week with out Fructose , not sugar , Fructose! i've eaten nuts, apples, bananas and a lot of high sugar content food but the point is its "WHOLE" food. how much sugar did i eat before then your asking. well not a lot (i thought).
which leads to the whole POINT . its hidden fructose that is the problem with most people! you quiet possibly have no idea just how much sugar , or rarther refined Fructose your consuming.
Check it and see. in the meantime. if you want to poison yourself, you go ahead, :happy: :flowerforyou: :drinker:
Checks food diary
Brings up sugar tab
I'm pretty aware of how much sugar I'm taking in, actually. Answer: a good bit.0 -
do i really?These anti-sugar crusaders sound like the low-fat 80's crowd followers.
http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-science-of-nutrition-is-a-carb-a-carb.html
i'm sure i just typed about the amount of Fats i've just reintroduced.0
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